Other than asthetics, is there any actual performance advantage to using a 6.5.x ROM?
The things I hear is that:
the 6.5 builds are more stable, particularly with Sense.
the 6.5.x builds are more finger friendly.
Since I've never tried one, can any 6.5.x die-hards tell me what it is that causes you to sacrifice said stability? Is it just the latest and greatest idea?
looking at the pace at which software and ROMS get updated i think part of it is having hte latest and greatest - it's almost a game who can get the latest sense packages or WM build.
From what i can see 6.5.x adds threaded view, bottom start bar and nicer bigger buttons. Aesthetics and button usability ARE important in a phone.
I also believe 24xx builds are the fastest.
However, you must realise sense will catchup. This is why many roms have a 2359/2400 tree as well as a 218x tree.
it appears from the forums that not everyone has horrendous 6.5.x stability issues though.
Thanks for the feedback.
Is 23540 the latest build we have Chefs using here on the forum? I have not found a later build, but maybe I missed it.
Anyone who has anything to share on this, I am curious and trying to decide if I want to take the plunge.
I'm using a 6.5.x rom (Evolution 1.3) and its stable and general I found its other apps that cause it to fail not the rom. I like it for the interface, much easier for one handed use and for a finger not stylus.
I did try another 6.5.x rom earlier and it was very unstable but I found I liked the interface. I used a 6.5 rom in the interim and it was very stable but really liked the more finger friendly 6.5.x rom style.
If you use a popular 6.5.x rom it will probably be okay but I would be a bit more careful with the newer chefs roms.
There is a lot of reasons I prefer 6.5.x over 6.5, finger friendly, thread e-mail, new UI, etc... Nonetheless it is a personal preference and you have to be in it so you can understand it. So you can seat on the side line and watch us play with it or you can just join the fun. At least if you try it, you will know what you are or not missing. And if you don't like it then you go back to side line again keep watching out of the window.
im one who really dont like 6.5.5...too big buttons who change the screen "wallpaper" space...and of course i dont like the big menu style...i dont know about stability cos i just tryed for some hour before flash another rom...i really dont understand why there are so many 6.5.5 roms compared to classical one
the asthetics are the reason why i HATE 6.5.x - the new start button looks out of place and ruins the spacing on the softkey bar...
looking at the builds i think it also takes up extra space on screen unecessarily. every pixel counts
I find 6.5 to be aesthetically good enough. I havent seen any ugliness - and everything seems finger friendly enough.
I will try 4354x build soon, but 218x seems ok. TBH I have a hard time seeing why people think WM6.5 brings the HD2 down so much.
It seems to sip battery atm even with a few addons, and seems impressively configurable - like Mio satnavs.
Caus HD2 has a large screen so 6.5.X look like easy too use (Push Button)
and Rom 6.5.X is also stable too.
You should try.
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
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I'm pretty sure (or assumed) that the total usable screen space is still the same eventually, because the 'thicker' softkeys/buttons at the bottom, are compensated by the 'thinner' taskbar at the top.
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
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Actually I think that the software buttons on the bottom are user friendy, for the following reasons:
1. you get your close button on the bottom so you don't have to "travel" all the way to the top to close an app. (ideal for one-hand usage)
2. for a large device like the hd2 i like it that the right soft-menu button is positioned closer to the center. It makes it more accessible for my rather small hands when I use it with one hand.
3. The large windows software button is in my opinion better than the tiny hardware button.
For the rest I agree with you.
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
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+1 on that, i know that this is the future but as long as htc will release an official 6.5.x rom i will stick with com2 roms. there are too many bugs mainly graphics ones related to the sense.
As others have stated, I'm one of those "Hate 6.5.5" people. Compared to the stable, classic 6.5, it just looks ugly-IMHO.
Hi Appelflap,
what about the Windows start menu hardware button at the bottum of the screen?
And if you want to go back the hardware Homebutton?
appelflap said:
Actually I think that the software buttons on the bottom are user friendy, for the following reasons:
1. you get your close button on the bottom so you don't have to "travel" all the way to the top to close an app. (ideal for one-hand usage)
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Edit; overlooked number 3 hihi, sorry.
Grtz Leo
appelflap said:
3. The large windows software button is in my opinion better than the tiny hardware button.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi Appelflap,
what about the Windows start menu hardware button at the bottum of the screen?
And if you want to go back the hardware Homebutton?
Edit; overlooked number 3 hihi, sorry.
Grtz Leo
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Even more better than the button interface of wm 6.5.x is a gesture UI. I think this is going to have the future. But don't let me go off-topic here...
A gesture UI sounds interesting.
If you disable Sense from today isn't that what you mean Appelflap the WM6.5.x interface?
Now you are ON topic so go ahead.
appelflap said:
Even more better than the button interface of wm 6.5.x is a gesture UI. I think this is going to have the future. But don't let me go off-topic here...
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Laurentius26 said:
A gesture UI sounds interesting.
If you disable Sense from today isn't that what you mean Appelflap the WM6.5.x interface?
Now you are ON topic so go ahead.
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lol, no that's not what I meant. What I mean is a interface where you don't have to push any buttons but where you can just swipe your way around. For example instead of a back button, just swipe back.. Instead of a home button just swipe upwards etc. etc.
gesture based OS
Palm WebOS already does this - I have a HD2 and a Pre and gotta say, WebOS rocks so much. It's really so natural to use the gestures that when I switch back to my HD2 I almost have to forget/retrain the way I use my phone!
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Palm WebOS already does this - I have a HD2 and a Pre and gotta say, WebOS rocks so much. It's really so natural to use the gestures that when I switch back to my HD2 I almost have to forget/retrain the way I use my phone!
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Hey, didn't know that the WebOS has that! Nice to know, i'm going to read a bit about it.
(BTW let's face it Palm is the inventor of this form-factor and they did a pretty good job with Grafity. I'm very curious what they are doing nowadays)
Related
http://cre.ations.net/creation/dock
I was Digg'ing when I saw this little app. Can we do it so that it works on PPC and with any app and any launch icon (png preferably?)
The source code is in there... so this should be easy?
dferreira said:
http://cre.ations.net/creation/dock
I was Digg'ing when I saw this little app. Can we do it so that it works on PPC and with any app and any launch icon (png preferably?)
The source code is in there... so this should be easy?
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Nice !!!
Notice how fast it goes and no lagging
i wish someone can create a today plugin like this.. or a window based launcher.. i hate full screen apps..
it's possible to download it for my htc elf (wm06)
naillik said:
it's possible to download it for my htc elf (wm06)
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no, it won't work in any device except the iphone..
we are here to request some very good hearted and generous WM programmer to maybe find some time to create a similar application..
all other platforms are making very big leaps in terms of Menu Handling and Graphic User Interfaces.. these features makes or breaks a Platform's sales.. especially to those who are thinking of switching...
too bad Windows Mobile's base GUI is a decade behind the others..
so pleaaase.. pretty please? can someone look into making this? i may sound pathetic but if this is all i can do to make this slick launcher come to WM doorsteps and i'm willing to do more..
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no, it won't work in any device except the iphone..
we are here to request some very good hearted and generous WM programmer to maybe find some time to create a similar application..
all other platforms are making very big leaps in terms of Menu Handling and Graphic User Interfaces.. these features makes or breaks a Platform's sales.. especially to those who are thinking of switching...
too bad Windows Mobile's base GUI is a decade behind the others..
so pleaaase.. pretty please? can someone look into making this? i may sound pathetic but if this is all i can do to make this slick launcher come to WM doorsteps and i'm willing to do more..
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On the other side, if it's just eyecandy, it's almost worthless.
I'm not convinced that this kind of GUI is really useful: one precise tap to move, maybe more, then on tap to launch. It appears to me that it's more efficient that one tap bring a menu, or like in PCM keyboard, one tap, 250ms later you can choose the right option.
tene said:
On the other side, if it's just eyecandy, it's almost worthless.
I'm not convinced that this kind of GUI is really useful: one precise tap to move, maybe more, then on tap to launch. It appears to me that it's more efficient that one tap bring a menu, or like in PCM keyboard, one tap, 250ms later you can choose the right option.
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yes that's what i am aiming at.. maybe we could have a launcher icon that when you tap and hold, brings up a new set of icons, etc.. IMHO this is better that having bunch of little non-appealing tabs to click on, then click again to launch an app..
also, this GUI is more than of a today screen material for it displays a lot of shortcuts in one line, meaning more space left on today screen real estate.. so if you have a lot of shortcuts on your today screen, you don't have to fill the entire screen with icons or reduce the icon size to fit em all.. don't we all hate scroll bars on our today screen? with this, all you need to do is do a horizontal scroll (or maybe move D-pad left or right) to focus the offscreen shortcuts.. far better than tabbed launchers IMHO.. besides, finger scrolling is now easy to do and common to most new Devices due to Touch based ROMS..
Have you seen the MRU (Most Recent Apps) plugin on our WM Smartphones? this is the same concept, except that it launches specific shortcuts instead of shuffled apps, and navigation is controlled by a swipe movement..
Menu-based Launcher already exists
If you want to press a button to bring up a menu of icons, that already exists. Check out WM5NewMenu by saman-cz (this forum). It started off as a shortcut to add a new appointment or contact, but evolved into a program launcher with some really neat capability like nested menus and shortcuts for speeddial. Doesn't have icons though, just shortcut name (prob keeps the memory smaller).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255580
I'd still be interested in a horizontal scroller for frequently used apps to replace cLaunch on the today screen if anyone can take that on...
tene said:
On the other side, if it's just eyecandy, it's almost worthless.
I'm not convinced that this kind of GUI is really useful: one precise tap to move, maybe more, then on tap to launch. It appears to me that it's more efficient that one tap bring a menu, or like in PCM keyboard, one tap, 250ms later you can choose the right option.
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Tene I think your PocketCM is the general idea, instead of contact list and vertical scrolling you could make it shortcut list and horizontal scrolling.
Hello,
I lwould like to have an AppLauncher similar to the MacOSX bar.
in bottom U have small icons, if U are hove on one it becomes bigger and on releasing it, a Menu slides in the screen.
Im already trying to code such an app, in native C++.
But for a first Release ( just showing the GUI ) it' ll takes still a little time.
I have not so much in moment ( studying?!, moving into another house... ), also its my first Programm using the winapi....
So wish me luck....
HTC home is an amazing creation especially the vers found in aserg rom for the herald where it incorporates colors on the buttons
I installed touch commander and the ability to slide the tabs instead of pressing and the slide action was quite spectacular
Unfortunately due to the extremely slowdown of my device i removed it
Hopefully somebody knows of something similar, and no ultimate launcher cube slide is different than this, personally i think this is way smoother and fits the htc device quite well instead of the ultimate launcher
xboxhaxorz said:
HTC home is an amazing creation especially the vers found in aserg rom for the herald where it incorporates colors on the buttons
I installed touch commander and the ability to slide the tabs instead of pressing and the slide action was quite spectacular
Unfortunately due to the extremely slowdown of my device i removed it
Hopefully somebody knows of something similar, and no ultimate launcher cube slide is different than this, personally i think this is way smoother and fits the htc device quite well instead of the ultimate launcher
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Have you tried the Touch Commander beta version yet? It's a little buggy but looks like it's going to kick some #@&. See if you can find a pick for the one you speak about... I would like to see and maybe replicate for TC.
I would like to ask what the name of this application?
Thanks.
what do you mean?
It is windows phone 6.5.1 's feature .
hi,
Please see the attached screenshot, in red box.
thanks.
look answer upper.
wm6.5.1 OS feature
Like thangkls said, it's simply a feature of newer builds of WM 6.5.
thank you very much for your replies.
Any chance this can be disabled? I for one really hate it. On QVGA with my fat fingers it's annoying. Also, it seems to have arguements with my preferred task switcher/manager.
fwp said:
Any chance this can be disabled? I for one really hate it. On QVGA with my fat fingers it's annoying. Also, it seems to have arguements with my preferred task switcher/manager.
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Use a Com2 Build. It cannot be disabled.
In case others are also frustrated (as I was) with how to toggle open and closing the software keyboard in the WM 6.5.x builds, I thought I'd post this.
The solution is simple: imagine the icon is split in two halves, and the LEFT HALF will open and close the keyboard. The RIGHT HALF will open up the options menu.
It works every time! Nothing to do with a long press or short tap or anything like that -- it's all about where you press. IMHO, a long press for options and a short tap for toggle makes more sense, but that just doesn't work... yet, anyway.
In other words, the SIP icon works the same as it always did -- the new icon is very misleading in that you don't realize it is really "split" in two.
Thanks. Thats what I found in the newest 6.5.5 builds too (I have to admit I did think I was going crazy for a couple hours last week before I noticed what my big thumb was doing
Though, just to clarify, I do remember 6.5.1 (and maybe 6.5.3) having the long-press for options. Unless it was the version of ezSIP I was using... it was different on those builds.
you sir, are my savior
jsmith8858 said:
In other words, the SIP icon works the same as it always did -- the new icon is very misleading in that you don't realize it is really "split" in two.
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I agree ... When I first noticed this I almost thought it was a bug or an unfinished element ... I hope it's easy to skin the button.
Thank you
Now my WinMo 6.5.5 is perfect.Tahnk you for this realy useful info.
Thanks a lot there..
Very much appreciated.. !!
How do i get this feature? Do i have to install something?
Is there any big difference between this versions of WM ?? in speed or something ... or its just one version and another version???
BoneMo said:
Is there any big difference between this versions of WM ?? in speed or something ... or its just one version and another version???
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good question! I'd realy like to see some head-to-head features comparison between the two.
digitalhater said:
good question! I'd realy like to see some head-to-head features comparison between the two.
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6.5.x is a bit more finger friendly. better finger friendly menus and such.
The most noteable change is the start button is now at the bottom instead of teh top.
samsamuel said:
6.5.x is a bit more finger friendly. better finger friendly menus and such.
The most noteable change is the start button is now at the bottom instead of teh top.
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Is it all different??
heh, sorry can't tell you any more detail.I flashed to a 6.5.x rom about 6 hours after getting the phone so I barely used 6.5
i know about this graphic a finger friendly change..but its not a reason for changing from 6.5 ro 6.5.x... any table or something at any site. ??? i tried using google but i only found comparison between 6.1 and 6.5
WM 6.5.3 is faster than 6.5
Most of the new features are optical.
Newer Outlook with threaded emails in 6.5.x, you can shift icons in menu.
http://smartmania.mobilmania.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=18677
6.5.x:
- much more fingerfriendly through the whole system (just look at the contacts plugin *whooo* )
- improved memory management (I did not encounter any memory leak as in the old WM builds)
- the system feels more smooth and fast
- improved start menu (drag and drop to arrange folders and icons)
- much prettier (the black on grey square buttons are awesome)
- threaded E-Mail in Messaging
Petulinek said:
Newer Outlook with threaded emails in 6.5.x, you can shift icons in menu.
http://smartmania.mobilmania.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=18677
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I LOLed on the post about "the more stripes u have the more adidas u have"