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Since it seems as though the Wi-fi periodically just shuts down for some reason and I don't notice, thus spending so much money on 3G which is so slow, how do I shut it down?
(Just wondering...what is the point of 3G and all the other HDSMA and all that stuff) Oh and are there any of the other connections that may require cash? Or are they important for some reason...like GSM.
EDIT: Wait...is 3G required for the phone to function? If so, how do I avoid wasting money on 3G for other things like surfing the internet...using the youtube panel...
No, u can disable it with a program called noData
Will the lack of 3G affect anything? Because...I spent over a whooping $100 on some Mobile Data...which basically makes up 95% of my entire phone bill.
EDIT: Wait was that "no" for whether the 3G was vital for anything? Anyway I have noData and I just disabled everything yet at the top there is still the symbol of a connection. It says:
3G M1-3GSM
ActiveSync Connected
Disabling gprs will not affect any programs on your phone, and with noData you can choose witch connections you want to block. (example: gprs internet, gprs push,..)
i disabled everything in nodata and i do not have any costs because the phone cannot establish a connection
i get the 3g symbol but i dont care about it
I deactivated everything and yet I am still able to get into the Opera browser...and wi-fi is off...
Skurai123 said:
I deactivated everything and yet I am still able to get into the Opera browser...and wi-fi is off...
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Get into but not opening page I assume?
Yes, I can still get into the opening page.
stock opening page is at x1... so type sth.. http://... :]
Huh? Anyway, yes I can view sites on Opera for some reason despite de-activating everything.
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Yes, I can still get into the opening page.
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Opening page is normal, it doesn't connect to display this...
Skurai123 said:
Since it seems as though the Wi-fi periodically just shuts down for some reason and I don't notice, thus spending so much money on 3G which is so slow, how do I shut it down?
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I shut it down in settings --> phone --> network and selected only GSM band. This will take away the 3G connection still leaving GPRS connection available. However, this implies installing no other software AND consuming less power (am I wrong on this latter point?!)
Skurai123 said:
(Just wondering...what is the point of 3G and all the other HDSMA and all that stuff) Oh and are there any of the other connections that may require cash? Or are they important for some reason...like GSM.
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You always get GPRS connection. As far as I know, you can not disable it on this phone without installing some software
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EDIT: Wait...is 3G required for the phone to function? If so, how do I avoid wasting money on 3G for other things like surfing the internet...using the youtube panel...
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No, it is not required. It is required for fast internet connection and videocall.
doministry said:
Opening page is normal, it doesn't connect to display this...
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Okay...not just the opening page. I tried going into gameFAQs and it worked.
The 3G symbol appears at the top though, meaning there is an available network but it is not connected. This disappears completely when I activate Opera...so how do I determine that 3G is really off?
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Will the lack of 3G affect anything? Because...I spent over a whooping $100 on some Mobile Data...which basically makes up 95% of my entire phone bill.
EDIT: Wait was that "no" for whether the 3G was vital for anything? Anyway I have noData and I just disabled everything yet at the top there is still the symbol of a connection. It says:
3G M1-3GSM
ActiveSync Connected
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Thats a lot of money u have spent
Well its not that bad internet through 3g but if you make a plan with your provider and if your provider allows voip you can also make calls through fring or skype from your phone ...
Cheers
Hey i know ive asked quite a lot of questions in the past but here i am with more.
1) I was wondering if there was an app to turn you data on and off so you switch from wifi to 3g data
2) I was also wondering how you can tell what your usage is mabye an app that doesn't count wifi as well.
There is an HTC Widget to turn the main radio off on the CDMA version. On my phone it is under:
Press "+" from the home screen-->HTC Widget-->Settings-->Mobile Network
On the CDMA phones that shuts down both voice and data. If you have a GSM version, i am not sure what it will do.
On the GSM version, if you just want to turn mobile data on and off but leave the phone "on", you can hold down the power button to bring up the "Phone Options" menu, and one of the options "Mobile network" - press this and it will toggle mobile data off and on.
Regards,
Dave
blood9656 said:
Hey i know ive asked quite a lot of questions in the past but here i am with more.
1) I was wondering if there was an app to turn you data on and off so you switch from wifi to 3g data
2) I was also wondering how you can tell what your usage is mabye an app that doesn't count wifi as well.
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There's a couple of good apps for turning data on/off. The one I prefer is APNDroid as it's got a notification icon that can be displayed in the taskbar to indicate whether data is on or off. Placing a shortcut on your home screen make it easy to change whether data is active.
The app I use for monitoring data is NetCounter which is easy to use and clear to understand.
I recently used them both on a trip to Dubai as I wanted to prevent data roaming charges. APNDroid deactivated the data connection and at the end of the week long stay, NetCounter was showing zero data usage during the trip.
Thanks im also abit worried about all the ads that come with apps or games do they use much data and when an app like taskiller shows them still running does that mean they are using data?
And if i got my phone a week ago will it have the latest and fastest rom?
There's an HTC widget that allows you to switch wifi on and off, thus swapping from 2/3g to wifi. Also, take a look at Y5, its good for managing when you have wifi on / off.
Florida.
Ok ill have a look i was more worried about apps running in the background as ive found that when you press the home button they don't actuallly exit.
I suggest that what you really need is Netsentry. This will monitor the traffic on all the Hero network interfaces (usb, Wi-Fi, 2G/3G) and warn you when any particular interface hits a user defined limit. It will also "self-reset" the counters according to a schedule that you define.
For example, say you are on Orange with their miserly 500mb data limit, and you're billing cycle starts on 1st on the month, you could set up Netsentry to warn you when you get to say 475mb, and automatically reset the counter on the 1st of every month.
I'm sure there are other apps that do something similar, or even better, but Netsentry seems to work well enough for me.
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Dave
Hi folks,
Just back from my first holiday in France with my HD2 and, despite setting weather, Facebook, Twitter and email not to automatically download while roaming, something seemed to be establishing a GPRS/EDGE connection occasionally.
Any suggestions on what this could be or how to identify it?
Thanks,
Kris
stocks? weather? time sync?
If you dont want to have any data charges then I strongly recomend NoDatainRoaming by Dynamic+. It automatically switches off data connection (same as modoco no data) when you leave your home area but when you get back to your home area it turns it back on. No more forgeting to turn it off.
irishkris said:
Hi folks,
Just back from my first holiday in France with my HD2 and, despite setting weather, Facebook, Twitter and email not to automatically download while roaming, something seemed to be establishing a GPRS/EDGE connection occasionally.
Any suggestions on what this could be or how to identify it?
Thanks,
Kris
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Same here .
i just returned from the USA .
before i walked on the plane i turned off all data connections .
i turned on my phone to take some pictures with it while in the USA . came home to find out i have about 120$ of fee's .
:/
you guys are lucky
I took a trip up to Gunma prefecture in Japan for new year. I came back to Taiwan and I had 800 us dollars phone charge... I didn't even take pictures with the phone I just brought it with me!
Had a similar issue in Greece. Footprints and google maps both seem to automatically start the data connection when they start. I have a feeling that the compass may do as well. Could be something to do with quick GPS trying to download updates?
I've been using modoco no data to good effect. May give NoDatainRoaming a go if it's automatic
same thing on mu dubai trip.. .These connections turn on automatically .
NoData works for me, just configure before you power down the phone to fly
RSS Reader has no Roaming setting so if you've got it on AUTO, best switch that off.
A quick search would certainly have brought the answer to all of you!
Don't be lazy!
Anyway, here's the solution: Go to "All Settings" --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, simply select "My Work Network" everywhere.
With that setting, your phone is only allowed to use WiFi. There's no need for third party tools or anything, it's that simple.
My Location?
I think it is more important to find out what is making data connection and how to disable it, rather than using nodata to suppress everything. What if you really need to use HSPA/GRPS during roaming? You need to know how to enable data connection and do your thing without the HD2 automatically doing a lot of other data traffic in the background.
Alex,
That's exactly my concern - I'd like to be able to use the net knowing the HD2 isn't going to pull down a load of other stuff as well.
The weather tab is set not to connect while roaming, stocks are the same and RSS is configured not to automatically update at all.
The only two other things people mentioned are time sync and my location - how can I tell if those are connecting while roaming.
Kris
does anyone know how my location actually works?... cell broadcasting, gps, or how?... i set up the send no location info in settings and automaticly decline htc location service and the phone still knows were i am....
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The only two other things people mentioned are time sync and my location - how can I tell if those are connecting while roaming.
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I have no idea HD2 is doing timesync, or how I can disable it. As for my location, disable it in the Settings tab.
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does anyone know how my location actually works?... cell broadcasting, gps, or how?... i set up the send no location info in settings and automaticly decline htc location service and the phone still knows were i am....
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I believe phone gets cell tower ID via normal handshake operation. Then it asks Google to translate it to a city name. It is the second part that consumes internet data traffic.
There is yet another possibility of hidden data traffic. I think HD2 has AGPS, but there is not interface to enable/disable it. Similar to My Location, AGPS translates cell tower ID to location, and triangulates to pin point where you are. Much quicker than GPS, but not as precise. If it is so, then it explains why taking pictures leads to data traffic.
Hi.
I have a problem with my X10. I don't know if is android related or only applies to X10.
I posted in another section but i didn't get any answers so, it might be only X10.
Here it is.
A few days ago i installed a network monitor from market and reset the counters to 0 at midnight.
In the morning i had 12Mb traffic.
After, i disabled google sync, facebook and twitter updates, removed the weather widget from screen and i still had constant traffic.
2h ago i did a factory defaults and i only installed NetSentry and a task killer.
I don't have sync configured, no weather, no twitter, etc.
I killed all the apps excepting net sentry (including the task killer), set the counters to 0 and in 15min i have 130k traffic.
I don't have a data plan so, i'm only using wifi.
Can somebody with an X10 to monitor their traffic with net sentry (or other net monitor app)?
But, somebody with 3G or WIFI active all the time (WIFI sleep policy set to Never).
I'm curious if is something with my phone or ...
hey dude, i have the same thing happening here. i think its andriod not the phone. but i do agree with with you, some kind of time-out for the phone to disconnect if its sleeping is necessary not only to conserve battery but for those with limited data plan.
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hey dude, i have the same thing happening here. i think its andriod not the phone. but i do agree with with you, some kind of time-out for the phone to disconnect if its sleeping is necessary not only to conserve battery but for those with limited data plan.
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Well, if you are in WIFI area 22h/day you don't need a data plan but you need data active to receive mails, updates, etc so, my WIFI is always active.
I know is not the phone... what i want to figure out if is the Rogers branded firmware which has a problem or is something general and all X10 (or even all androids) are doing the same traffic.
Here in Canada, Rogers has stupid data plans.
25$ for 500Mb, 30$ for 1Gb, 60$ for 3Gb and 80$ for 5Gb.
If my phone is doing 0.5Mb in 1h without any apps running, those plans are a rip off
This means ~350Mb per month without any emails, browsing, etc gone on absolutely nothing.
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I don't have a data plan so, i'm only using wifi.
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Cool... I've a 3G data plan so I don't really care for data traffic (I will however do the test and share results), but having 3G attached consumes very quickly the battery (100% at 8:00 AM, 20% at 8:00 PM, with push e-mail on both Moxier and GMail). How long lasts the battery with WiFi always connected?
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Cool... I've a 3G data plan so I don't really care for data traffic (I will however do the test and share results), but having 3G attached consumes very quickly the battery (100% at 8:00 AM, 20% at 8:00 PM, with push e-mail on both Moxier and GMail). How long lasts the battery with WiFi always connected?
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wow i must say your battery is amazing. what Firmware are you running? my battery consumption is about 50% for only 5hours.
am on unlimited Data and 3G always connected. its driving me crazy.
proatiku said:
wow i must say your battery is amazing. what Firmware are you running? my battery consumption is about 50% for only 5hours.
am on unlimited Data and 3G always connected. its driving me crazy.
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I'm running the stock firmware and actually I don't find the battery so amazing: consuming 80% of charge in half a day is very bad. And this is achieved by disabling Bluetooth (with my previous Xperia X1 I was used to let BT always turned on) and minimal usage. If I surf a bit, or talk few minutes, I will run out of battery, and this is not acceptable...
Please, this is not about battery or power management, we have another thread for that.
So, nobody wants to do the test for 30min to see if they have traffic when background sync is disabled and all the other apps killed?
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Please, this is not about battery or power management, we have another thread for that.
So, nobody wants to do the test for 30min to see if they have traffic when background sync is disabled and all the other apps killed?
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It wasn't my intention to go off topic, I just asked you how long lasts your battery with WiFi always connected.
I plan to do the 30 minute test this week end. Which application are you using to count the transferred data?
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It wasn't my intention to go off topic, I just asked you how long lasts your battery with WiFi always connected.
I plan to do the 30 minute test this week end. Which application are you using to count the transferred data?
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Well, never more than 12h but i listen music via Bluetooth a few hours and i play a lot with the phone (heh, new toy)
I bought UltimateJuice ... i hope i'll see an improvement.
Nobody else has problems with data?
Or, everyone has unlimited data plans?
the constant data access appears to be a function of Android. i immediately noticed that when i entered my network settings.
the perfect solution i found was to install an app called APNdroid, which you can get for free at the Android market. this allows you to toggle your network data connection on and off and gives you total control over your data consumption.
Well, the idea is: i need my data on most of the time.
But, i don't want unwanted data
And it seems nobody knows which app or service is doing this traffic.
And more than that, it seems that nobody cares
Try to use 3d watchdog to monitor traffic. Best straightforward application
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And Install APN Droid and switch on/off 3G when ever you want.
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even further you can install profile package to automatically activate wifi or 3g on certain time or location.
@Shiwanta, thank's for the tip of 3G Watchdog ! Will try it soon.
Try to use 3d watchdog to monitor traffic. Best straightforward application
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And Install APN Droid and switch on/off 3G when ever you want.
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even further you can install profile package to automatically activate wifi or 3g on certain time or location.
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I know about 3g watchdog and apn droid but i don't want my data disabled. i still need sync and email updates.
ibought ultimate juice. let's hoe it helps.
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I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.
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If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.
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He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.
rogeriorp said:
He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.
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Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.
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Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.
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It is not shocking but somehow people tend to forget the basics. And it is also unnecessary while on wifi, which is the case and the advice he spoke of.
And I'd go even further and set 3G only with wifi, lollipop tends to switch from wifi to LTE by itself very often.
I've heard of people suggesting switching off wifi when your not using it, but never mobile data. So i just thought it might be a suggestion some people might appreciate. Take it or leave it.
Plus wifi is doing the exact same funtion as mobile data when your connected to it, so your not losing any functionality.
If your rooted you can even get Tasker to do the switch automatically.
This actually doesn't work. The data radio goes I to sleep mode when WiFi is on. Its not just doing its own thing while wood is on.
Definitely working on WiFi enhances battery life enormously but didn't try switching off mobile data
Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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How is this possible? When your wifi radio is connected, the data side is completely disconnected. This is even reported in your 'status'.
I see your point, but all I know is that it definitely is making a large difference for me.
One theory I attributed it with was that with Wifi and Mobile Data switched on the phone is getting a lot more Wake Locks (perhaps doubling up), which in turn could also possibly be preventing the phone going into a Deep Sleep. But as the Wakelock detector app doesn't work any more (unless your rooted), I can't verify this.
Gonna test this out!
The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.
Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously
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I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously
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Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!
unk3 said:
Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!
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First you'll need root and this plugin (make sure to enable external access in the plugin app)
Basically, create a profile that runs whenever you connect to a network (you can leave it blank for all networks or press the search button to choose just your home network).
The entry task would basically wait 10 seconds and then run the plugin choosing wcdma/gsm (auto) as the network mode. Choose then to add an exit task which simply recalls the plugin and chooses the network mode as LTE, wcdma, gsm. You can even add an extra step to each task at the end which has tasker display a toast that you can have say LTE enabled or 3g mode only
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The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.
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SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.
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SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.
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SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.
Tasker can't turn off mobile data since Lollipop update....
Any sugestions?
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SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.
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No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.
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No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.
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