Hey i know ive asked quite a lot of questions in the past but here i am with more.
1) I was wondering if there was an app to turn you data on and off so you switch from wifi to 3g data
2) I was also wondering how you can tell what your usage is mabye an app that doesn't count wifi as well.
There is an HTC Widget to turn the main radio off on the CDMA version. On my phone it is under:
Press "+" from the home screen-->HTC Widget-->Settings-->Mobile Network
On the CDMA phones that shuts down both voice and data. If you have a GSM version, i am not sure what it will do.
On the GSM version, if you just want to turn mobile data on and off but leave the phone "on", you can hold down the power button to bring up the "Phone Options" menu, and one of the options "Mobile network" - press this and it will toggle mobile data off and on.
Regards,
Dave
blood9656 said:
Hey i know ive asked quite a lot of questions in the past but here i am with more.
1) I was wondering if there was an app to turn you data on and off so you switch from wifi to 3g data
2) I was also wondering how you can tell what your usage is mabye an app that doesn't count wifi as well.
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There's a couple of good apps for turning data on/off. The one I prefer is APNDroid as it's got a notification icon that can be displayed in the taskbar to indicate whether data is on or off. Placing a shortcut on your home screen make it easy to change whether data is active.
The app I use for monitoring data is NetCounter which is easy to use and clear to understand.
I recently used them both on a trip to Dubai as I wanted to prevent data roaming charges. APNDroid deactivated the data connection and at the end of the week long stay, NetCounter was showing zero data usage during the trip.
Thanks im also abit worried about all the ads that come with apps or games do they use much data and when an app like taskiller shows them still running does that mean they are using data?
And if i got my phone a week ago will it have the latest and fastest rom?
There's an HTC widget that allows you to switch wifi on and off, thus swapping from 2/3g to wifi. Also, take a look at Y5, its good for managing when you have wifi on / off.
Florida.
Ok ill have a look i was more worried about apps running in the background as ive found that when you press the home button they don't actuallly exit.
I suggest that what you really need is Netsentry. This will monitor the traffic on all the Hero network interfaces (usb, Wi-Fi, 2G/3G) and warn you when any particular interface hits a user defined limit. It will also "self-reset" the counters according to a schedule that you define.
For example, say you are on Orange with their miserly 500mb data limit, and you're billing cycle starts on 1st on the month, you could set up Netsentry to warn you when you get to say 475mb, and automatically reset the counter on the 1st of every month.
I'm sure there are other apps that do something similar, or even better, but Netsentry seems to work well enough for me.
Regards,
Dave
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My buddy just bought the Incredible today and I'm wondering how he can turn off 3G? I've always been Winmo and am unfamiliar with Android. Thanks
Why would you want to do that? You should have 3G all the damn time, Ive yet to drop 3G within the 20 square miles i drove today.
Battery Life? Compared to my Nexus (so far) the incredible is better because its not trying to force back and forth from 3G and Edge 99% of the day....Savor It!
thats all well and good, but some of us would like to disable 3g on occasion to ensure we get longer life, i've yet to find the option in the system settings, anyone know where it might be hidden.
Hold down the power button. Its the last option on the list "Mobile Network". It works as a toggle.
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Hold down the power button. Its the last option on the list "Mobile Network". It works as a toggle.
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cheers, its kind of a solution (ie: turns off all data connections except wifi instead of just using edge).
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Hold down the power button. Its the last option on the list "Mobile Network". It works as a toggle.
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this will turn off all the internet for it, TC is your friend trying to turn off 3g and just have it use 1x to save battery? or turn off all internet on the phone?
Yeah I figured out how to disable all data connections in Settings, but in my experience, whenever I turn off 3g I've had waaaayyyy better battery life. I am on ATT though...so it IS constantly going from 3G to Edge. I don't know if he'll be able to keep a 3G connection constantly, but I'm still wondering if turning it off will help.
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Yeah I figured out how to disable all data connections in Settings, but in my experience, whenever I turn off 3g I've had waaaayyyy better battery life. I am on ATT though...so it IS constantly going from 3G to Edge. I don't know if he'll be able to keep a 3G connection constantly, but I'm still wondering if turning it off will help.
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i was about to post the info but it got realy long so i made new post on it so its easier to find
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690682
- short version
- turn off 3G
phone screen > ##778 > "000000" > modem settings >
preferred mode- should be on auto as default, switch it to cdma only
menu > commit settings > (auto reboots)
poof 1x only mode!!!
--- also if this is just for battery life, biggest hits are
screen brightness, timeout
gps!,bluetooth,wifi(wifi can help battery in low 3g coverage but dont leave it one when your away)
email pulling ( gmail app with push is much more energy friendly if you can use just it and not the standardized mail program at all
other programs that do constant updating
Edit: oh and vibration uses more energy then audio and can be turned off, also haptic vibrate on selections and notification the have audio and vibrate
Has anyone proved that Using 3G wastes more power, I would think that the slower transfer speeds require more info transfered from your phone to download the information requested, and longer uptime waiting to view a webpage.
Why spend money on such a nice phone to browse with slow speeds.
Lino. said:
Has anyone proved that Using 3G wastes more power, I would think that the slower transfer speeds require more info transfered from your phone to download the information requested, and longer uptime waiting to view a webpage.
Why spend money on such a nice phone to browse with slow speeds.
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hey i'm not saying i'm planning to use it myself, with the exception of when i go to gamble at the casino cause they have awful data interference
if your streaming videos or large file transfers the cell radio would actively broadcast for much longer time and would use more power going to youtube on it all day, but sometimes you know your gonna be away from a charger or just have to be on the run for while and while the phone has great data features sometimes you need the phone to be a phone and know that its reliable and their when you need it
of course it will have breakpoint where smaller data transfers will be more efficient, the largest benefit will be noticed when the phone is in your pocket maintaining its connection with cell towers
this will allow you to still receive emails in real time but give your phone radio less work to do
runkittyrun said:
i was about to post the info but it got realy long so i made new post on it so its easier to find
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690682
- short version
- turn off 3G
phone screen > ##778 > "000000" > modem settings >
preferred mode- should be on auto as default, switch it to cdma only
menu > commit settings > (auto reboots)
poof 1x only mode!!!
--- also if this is just for battery life, biggest hits are
screen brightness, timeout
gps!,bluetooth,wifi(wifi can help battery in low 3g coverage but dont leave it one when your away)
email pulling ( gmail app with push is much more energy friendly if you can use just it and not the standardized mail program at all
other programs that do constant updating
Edit: oh and vibration uses more energy then audio and can be turned off, also haptic vibrate on selections and notification the have audio and vibrate
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What does all this even mean?
Hi there!
I'm eagerly waiting for SGS to be released in my country (Bulgaria) to take my greedy hands on it. I peronally believe that SGS is most finished Andriod mobile as for now. During waiting, I would like to ask all of happy real users a following question:
[QUESTION] Is it possible to turn all data connection surely off?
I know, there is an option to shut data off, but is it sure? In HD2 even you turned off data connection, the phone decides to turn it on by itself in matter of minutes, whithout asking for permition . Temporarily, I have a very limited data plan, so such an situation can easily get me overcharged.
Your detailed commends will be very much appreciated.
Thank you in advance!
it is possible with 3rd party programs like APN ON/OFF, Data On Demand, etc..
Yes, there is an app called APNDroid on the Market that changes the APN settings when you want to turn off data. This way you can be sure it won't use any data as the APNs don't work.
I use APNdroid, a free app, for turning of data traffic. Up until now, a week, it has not been turned on automatically. It pretty much works the way I expect it too.
However no guarantees. Even APNdroid says that some programs might remain active, but my battery certainly improves with turned of 3G.
Thank you for immediate answers. It prety much seems that APNDroid will do the job. However, next question arrose:
[QUESTION] How can you supervise your data traffic, e.g. how many MB you've already spent?
Great forum, tho.
Best.
I use 3G Watchdog. You can set a monthly data limit which is nice. And it works together with APNdroid by shutting off 3G automatically when you for example reach 99% of that monthly quota. It doesn't do this out of the box. You have to enable the feature in the settings of 3G Watchdog after installing APNdroid.
I suggest that you install 3G Watchdog app first.
Yes, I too use 3G Watchdog.
Very nice App and you get to see both Received & Transmitted data for:-
Quota
Today
Week
Month
Thank you very much for the comprehensive answers of yours!
I have no more questions. Waiting for the release date.
Wish you nice day.
I don't have an unlimited data plan so I normally turn my 3G on and off manually when I need to. But today my 3G icon keeps coming up on the tab even when i have the settings as off. I checked my data usage from my carrier and it is indeed eating up data. I've tried restarting the phone but it's still the same.
Any idea of why this is happening and how to resolve this?
Thanks in Advance
- Henry
try APNdroid, you can find it in the Market.
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I don't have an unlimited data plan so I normally turn my 3G on and off manually when I need to. But today my 3G icon keeps coming up on the tab even when i have the settings as off. I checked my data usage from my carrier and it is indeed eating up data. I've tried restarting the phone but it's still the same.
Any idea of why this is happening and how to resolve this?
Thanks in Advance
- Henry
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If you have your data disabled then it shouldn't be coming on. Check your permissions to see if you have an app on your phone that has permission to mess with your network settings.
Sent from my cm6.1 Aria using XDA App
APNDroid would work for your situation very well, however, I've had problems sending MMS's when I've had APNDroid installed (even with "enable MMS" checked).
Another option that would probably work very well is DroidWall (on the market-free). It's a firewall for your mobile data and WiFi, customizable for each allowing individual programs through. A widget on your homescreen turns it on or off. You could have it set so programs can always use WiFi, yet mobile data is blocked unless you turn the widget to "off". That wy no programs can actually transmit anything even if they have permissions set in the program. DroidWall has final say of what leaves.
I downloaded 3GWatchdog free, and was so impressed I purchased the Pro version for ~$2.50. The Pro version allows you to see specifically what program has used mobile data, and how much. That, along with DroidWall, will allow me to completely customize and control my mobile data while still retaining as much functionality as possible.
Ok Well I downloaded both APNDroid and Watchdog and now I can't even turn on 3G. I just uninstalled both of them and turn my phone off and on still no 3G.
Thanks anyway guys. I getting really close to giving up on Android and moving to the iphone. Every other day there's a new problem with this mobile OS and I always have to download an app rectify something that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It's getting ridiculous.
Escamotage said:
Ok Well I downloaded both APNDroid and Watchdog and now I can't even turn on 3G. I just uninstalled both of them and turn my phone off and on still no 3G.
Thanks anyway guys. I getting really close to giving up on Android and moving to the iphone. Every other day there's a new problem with this mobile OS and I always have to download an app rectify something that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It's getting ridiculous.
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Did you turn your mobile data back on before uninstalling APNdroid? If not, you might want to look into that
No offense, but I dont think its Android that is the problem. Have you taken the time to fully understand the phone? I havent had a hitch since I got this phone. Once you reinstall APNdroid, enable your data, and then remove the app. If you would like to manually turn off your mobile data then do this menu>settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks>uncheck data enabled
If you dont want to go through the hassle of that, download an app to do it for you. Quick settings can do it. Open quick settings>menu>preference>statusbar shortcut *To access quick settings from status bar* Then hit back>menu>customize>move up mobile data(APN) from hidden settings. Then all you have to do is click on or off for mobile data.
You can also download various widgets that can do this for you without having to go into quick settings. APNdroid being one of them. I use Widgetsoid.
Hi guys,
Why every time when I try to open android market, there is a notification says this transaction costs me 1 cent?
Now I can only open android market in airplane mode. Do you know how to solve this problem?
WOw that is pretty interesting.
Two things
1. I would email google about it
2. Try to delete the market cache from menu - appliction - manage applications.
Is it something related to your data plan
or it does charge when you connected to wifi too?
This phone has an issue. Even though u select not to use mobile data, it will still try to use it with some apps, market is one of them. Next time u open market, look at the status bar, u'll notice H for a brief moment, that's why u get charged, it's not google, it the phone itself. I called dell and talked to them about this, they though the model I got was.faulty, so they sent me a new one, but the new one acts the same way. I also called at&t and have them fully remove data of my phone, but they said they can't do it. the only sollution I thought of, is to use market through your browser.
or try some antivirus program.
I also see this issue, every time I open android market app - it downloads something (can see the H in notification are for a brief moment). But with amazon market app, it doesn't do this. Seems like AT&T is the problem here; maybe their policies are ok to steal 1 cent from non-data plan users.
I had G2X for a few days and this was not happening on that phone and I used the same sim card. It's not a virus, it happens even after factory reset.
This is nothing, try to factory reset your phone and see how much you get charged at initial android set up. You will lose at least a $1 by skipping set up steps in a hurry just to get to options and disable data. wtf is the phone downloading when you aren't even hooked up to your google account? It just choses to use data for no reason...
I reported this before
I reported this before. I even wrote to the FCC and AT&T looked at it and said in their report it was not them, It has to be Google and the Market Software.
If 3G data is off they shouldn't be turning it on and running up your data cost.
That's my complaint. I have a 2Gig plan. and have only used 200Meg at the most during the a month. It's the principal of the issue. You have Data disabled, and it turns it on. By the way, It adds 1K to data each time you access the market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970826
I turn off the data network when I'm not using it and have never had it turn itself on. When you use the market there will always be some data traffic back and forth as it loads the 'specials' etc. and even when you don't use it there will be activity as the device checks for application updates and emails.
As for the 1 cent charges, do they actually appear on your bank account?
Doesn't your phone need internet access to go on the market? Like to Download what Apps are on the market? Makes sense really
Did they reply your complaint? Were you complaining to ATT or Google?
I think I should send a complaint about this issue too.
Troute said:
I turn off the data network when I'm not using it and have never had it turn itself on. When you use the market there will always be some data traffic back and forth as it loads the 'specials' etc. and even when you don't use it there will be activity as the device checks for application updates and emails.
As for the 1 cent charges, do they actually appear on your bank account?
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I don't use mobile network at all, in the settings, the mobile network for att is not activated. I use wifi all the time.
However, sometimes when I open android market, the mobile network is enabled automatically (yes, I can see an "H" icon in the notifacation bar). I think there is a bug with the android market.
BTW, I'm a prepaid plan user, att did charge 1 cent every time.
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Doesn't your phone need internet access to go on the market? Like to Download what Apps are on the market? Makes sense really
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Yes, but I use wifi, and the mobile network is disable.
I guess android market enables the mobile network automatically, but only for a very short time when it starts up, after that, it starts to use wifi.
This probably is a bug of android market, I will report this to Google. Do you guys know how to report bugs to Google?
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Yes, but I use wifi, and the mobile network is disable.
I guess android market enables the mobile network automatically, but only for a very short time when it starts up, after that, it starts to use wifi.
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Oh I get what you mean, that does suck. Especially when you have it in airplane mode, thought that stopped everything!
This isn't just the market app, I had this happen to me in Skype, so I uninstalled it. I also tried Amazon market yesterday, mobile network is never in use with them, so it's a good idea to use that instead.
I think it's Dell, because like I said before, I had Optimus 2X for a few days and market doesn't do this on that phone. I also talked to At&t several times, they refuse to turn off data access
shouldn't charge just to look at the Apps.....something not right there. I persoannly have not seen this yet.
More Info about Report
I filed a complaint to the FCC naming AT&T, and Google. Only AT&T responded to the complaint. When Filing the complaint online you are limited as the how much you can type so I had to shorten it. Only AT&T contacted me, and stated that it was not them. As I kept checking this, It has to be the Market Place, and Google Software issue. If you have Mobile Data turned off, and operate only on WiFi, Mobile Data is activated when connecting to Market Place, and 1K of data is transmitted and it is added to your data usage.see below.
04/26 12:46 PM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
04/26 12:44 PM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
04/26 12:45 AM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
04/25 01:01 PM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
04/25 01:15 AM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
04/24 07:41 PM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1KB
Every time you access Market Place, as I did checking for updates on my installed apps.
FCC Complaint
My complaint is that my phone is using data when data is turned off.
Phone = Dell Streak 5
Application = Google Market Place
Carrier = AT&T Mobile
The phone, has an option to turn off 3G data connection so that you won’t be charged data when connected to WiFi. I use the phone most of the time when home on a WiFi network expecting not to incur data usage and the charges associated with using a 3G data connection.
After updating my phone to the latest software on the 23, February, 2011, and installing a program called 3G Watchdog to track 3G data usage, my data use was increasing. I checked this over the next 2 hours and it went from 7 KB to 23 KB of data use. After checking the phone several times making sure the data connection was still turned off, I observed that when using WiFi only that accessing the Google Market Place (an application to download software that came with the phone) that it was turning on the 3G data connection even though it was turned off. I had to go into the settings of the phone and turn the setting on then off to cancel the 3G data connection. Note: after a minuite of so it will shut off by itself.
My complaint is that there is no place that states that Google Market Place will turn on and use 3G data connection when you have it turned off. Dell just released the software update for the phone. After talking to Dell Support tonight for about an hour. They said it just does that.
If you turn off 3G data, so it cannot be used:
Why is Google Market Place turning it on and using the 3G data connection?
Why is Google Market Place or the Dell software update allowing access to your 3G data connection, turning it on and using your data without your authorization when you have your 3G data connection disabled and turned off in the phone settings.
When accessing Google Market Place 3G data connection charges are being incurred.
This unauthorized 3G data use could create an over limit of your data account and cause an increase of your billing for data use of almost double on your data account.
Resolution:
I would like to see the phone or software work as you would expect it to.
1: If I turn off the 3G data connection it would stay off and not be used until it was turned back on.
2: A stop of automatic 3G data usage with out authorization when disabled and turned off.
3: A rewrite of the Dell software update and/or Google Market Place software application or any other software for the Android operating system to not turn on and use a 3G data connection when you have turned off or disabled it.
if you go to accounts& sync setting there is a option call Background data uncheck it, thenyou won't see that happing.
Wouldn't everyone with a streak get the same problem if it was Google that was to blame? Mine stays on wifi, when I load the market app. Maybe its certain streaks or carrier problem.
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.
teh_lorax said:
If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.
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He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.
rogeriorp said:
He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.
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Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.
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Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.
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It is not shocking but somehow people tend to forget the basics. And it is also unnecessary while on wifi, which is the case and the advice he spoke of.
And I'd go even further and set 3G only with wifi, lollipop tends to switch from wifi to LTE by itself very often.
I've heard of people suggesting switching off wifi when your not using it, but never mobile data. So i just thought it might be a suggestion some people might appreciate. Take it or leave it.
Plus wifi is doing the exact same funtion as mobile data when your connected to it, so your not losing any functionality.
If your rooted you can even get Tasker to do the switch automatically.
This actually doesn't work. The data radio goes I to sleep mode when WiFi is on. Its not just doing its own thing while wood is on.
Definitely working on WiFi enhances battery life enormously but didn't try switching off mobile data
Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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How is this possible? When your wifi radio is connected, the data side is completely disconnected. This is even reported in your 'status'.
I see your point, but all I know is that it definitely is making a large difference for me.
One theory I attributed it with was that with Wifi and Mobile Data switched on the phone is getting a lot more Wake Locks (perhaps doubling up), which in turn could also possibly be preventing the phone going into a Deep Sleep. But as the Wakelock detector app doesn't work any more (unless your rooted), I can't verify this.
Gonna test this out!
The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.
Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously
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I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously
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Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!
unk3 said:
Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!
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First you'll need root and this plugin (make sure to enable external access in the plugin app)
Basically, create a profile that runs whenever you connect to a network (you can leave it blank for all networks or press the search button to choose just your home network).
The entry task would basically wait 10 seconds and then run the plugin choosing wcdma/gsm (auto) as the network mode. Choose then to add an exit task which simply recalls the plugin and chooses the network mode as LTE, wcdma, gsm. You can even add an extra step to each task at the end which has tasker display a toast that you can have say LTE enabled or 3g mode only
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The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.
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SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.
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SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.
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SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.
Tasker can't turn off mobile data since Lollipop update....
Any sugestions?
BrokenWall said:
SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.
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No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.
Zammo76 said:
No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.
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