Hi folks,
Just back from my first holiday in France with my HD2 and, despite setting weather, Facebook, Twitter and email not to automatically download while roaming, something seemed to be establishing a GPRS/EDGE connection occasionally.
Any suggestions on what this could be or how to identify it?
Thanks,
Kris
stocks? weather? time sync?
If you dont want to have any data charges then I strongly recomend NoDatainRoaming by Dynamic+. It automatically switches off data connection (same as modoco no data) when you leave your home area but when you get back to your home area it turns it back on. No more forgeting to turn it off.
irishkris said:
Hi folks,
Just back from my first holiday in France with my HD2 and, despite setting weather, Facebook, Twitter and email not to automatically download while roaming, something seemed to be establishing a GPRS/EDGE connection occasionally.
Any suggestions on what this could be or how to identify it?
Thanks,
Kris
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Same here .
i just returned from the USA .
before i walked on the plane i turned off all data connections .
i turned on my phone to take some pictures with it while in the USA . came home to find out i have about 120$ of fee's .
:/
you guys are lucky
I took a trip up to Gunma prefecture in Japan for new year. I came back to Taiwan and I had 800 us dollars phone charge... I didn't even take pictures with the phone I just brought it with me!
Had a similar issue in Greece. Footprints and google maps both seem to automatically start the data connection when they start. I have a feeling that the compass may do as well. Could be something to do with quick GPS trying to download updates?
I've been using modoco no data to good effect. May give NoDatainRoaming a go if it's automatic
same thing on mu dubai trip.. .These connections turn on automatically .
NoData works for me, just configure before you power down the phone to fly
RSS Reader has no Roaming setting so if you've got it on AUTO, best switch that off.
A quick search would certainly have brought the answer to all of you!
Don't be lazy!
Anyway, here's the solution: Go to "All Settings" --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, simply select "My Work Network" everywhere.
With that setting, your phone is only allowed to use WiFi. There's no need for third party tools or anything, it's that simple.
My Location?
I think it is more important to find out what is making data connection and how to disable it, rather than using nodata to suppress everything. What if you really need to use HSPA/GRPS during roaming? You need to know how to enable data connection and do your thing without the HD2 automatically doing a lot of other data traffic in the background.
Alex,
That's exactly my concern - I'd like to be able to use the net knowing the HD2 isn't going to pull down a load of other stuff as well.
The weather tab is set not to connect while roaming, stocks are the same and RSS is configured not to automatically update at all.
The only two other things people mentioned are time sync and my location - how can I tell if those are connecting while roaming.
Kris
does anyone know how my location actually works?... cell broadcasting, gps, or how?... i set up the send no location info in settings and automaticly decline htc location service and the phone still knows were i am....
irishkris said:
The only two other things people mentioned are time sync and my location - how can I tell if those are connecting while roaming.
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I have no idea HD2 is doing timesync, or how I can disable it. As for my location, disable it in the Settings tab.
ccezar2004 said:
does anyone know how my location actually works?... cell broadcasting, gps, or how?... i set up the send no location info in settings and automaticly decline htc location service and the phone still knows were i am....
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I believe phone gets cell tower ID via normal handshake operation. Then it asks Google to translate it to a city name. It is the second part that consumes internet data traffic.
There is yet another possibility of hidden data traffic. I think HD2 has AGPS, but there is not interface to enable/disable it. Similar to My Location, AGPS translates cell tower ID to location, and triangulates to pin point where you are. Much quicker than GPS, but not as precise. If it is so, then it explains why taking pictures leads to data traffic.
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HI.
My dad would like to buy a G1, but want to use his old handy contract.
There, he is able to make phone calls and write sms, but he will be charged for every kb he is using to surf the web.
This is fine for him. But how can i manage, that the G1 is not "talking" to the internetall the time. Is there any hack or app to disabel data usage? Officially, you can only say, use 2G instead of 3G. But i would like to only use wifi where it is possible and the rest of the time he would like to be offline.
Maybe you have a hint for me how to manage this.
Thanks
Delete all APNs and there you go - no data. Only when on "wifi mode"
but he wants to be able to send sms and make phone calls
changing all the apns really wont help him
i dont really think you can do anything but get a data plan
because the g1 sync with your google account
even on edge you need some sort of data plan so your phone can talk to the google servers and download updates to your contacts or calendar changes (if hes going use all that)
i think there is a different way
in the market there is an app called wisync (chk spelling)
and it synce when you are connected to a wifi connection
so i guess you could get a regular plan without data and have someone else activate the phone for you (With your dads email) and then insert your dads chip into the phone and then turn on wisync and let it sync up. the in the settings put "use only 2g networks"
hope this helps a little
Phone calls + sms have nothing to do with APNs. APNs are used only for DATA connection (MMS too), but not used for voice(except VOIP). You can delete them all and still use the "phone" as "phone" so to speak
What I would recommend for your dad is to download APNdroid which enables you to enable the dataconnection when you need it. This way you can enable or disable data connectivity whenever he wants to.
Zappza said:
What I would recommend for your dad is to download APNdroid which enables you to enable the dataconnection when you need it. This way you can enable or disable data connectivity whenever he wants to.
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You might want to check out WiSyncPlus. It can control your APNs, has a scheduler to allow automated net access, has far more features and APNdroid+WiSync, and can drastically improve battery life. Click on the graph to zoom in. Its available on the market.
Hey i know ive asked quite a lot of questions in the past but here i am with more.
1) I was wondering if there was an app to turn you data on and off so you switch from wifi to 3g data
2) I was also wondering how you can tell what your usage is mabye an app that doesn't count wifi as well.
There is an HTC Widget to turn the main radio off on the CDMA version. On my phone it is under:
Press "+" from the home screen-->HTC Widget-->Settings-->Mobile Network
On the CDMA phones that shuts down both voice and data. If you have a GSM version, i am not sure what it will do.
On the GSM version, if you just want to turn mobile data on and off but leave the phone "on", you can hold down the power button to bring up the "Phone Options" menu, and one of the options "Mobile network" - press this and it will toggle mobile data off and on.
Regards,
Dave
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Hey i know ive asked quite a lot of questions in the past but here i am with more.
1) I was wondering if there was an app to turn you data on and off so you switch from wifi to 3g data
2) I was also wondering how you can tell what your usage is mabye an app that doesn't count wifi as well.
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There's a couple of good apps for turning data on/off. The one I prefer is APNDroid as it's got a notification icon that can be displayed in the taskbar to indicate whether data is on or off. Placing a shortcut on your home screen make it easy to change whether data is active.
The app I use for monitoring data is NetCounter which is easy to use and clear to understand.
I recently used them both on a trip to Dubai as I wanted to prevent data roaming charges. APNDroid deactivated the data connection and at the end of the week long stay, NetCounter was showing zero data usage during the trip.
Thanks im also abit worried about all the ads that come with apps or games do they use much data and when an app like taskiller shows them still running does that mean they are using data?
And if i got my phone a week ago will it have the latest and fastest rom?
There's an HTC widget that allows you to switch wifi on and off, thus swapping from 2/3g to wifi. Also, take a look at Y5, its good for managing when you have wifi on / off.
Florida.
Ok ill have a look i was more worried about apps running in the background as ive found that when you press the home button they don't actuallly exit.
I suggest that what you really need is Netsentry. This will monitor the traffic on all the Hero network interfaces (usb, Wi-Fi, 2G/3G) and warn you when any particular interface hits a user defined limit. It will also "self-reset" the counters according to a schedule that you define.
For example, say you are on Orange with their miserly 500mb data limit, and you're billing cycle starts on 1st on the month, you could set up Netsentry to warn you when you get to say 475mb, and automatically reset the counter on the 1st of every month.
I'm sure there are other apps that do something similar, or even better, but Netsentry seems to work well enough for me.
Regards,
Dave
I'll be out of the country and wanted to pick up a local SIM card. I'm not sure it will have data available on this local SIM (or lets assume it might, but might be crazy expensive).
I'd like to use the phone only for calls and also use the wifi for some very limited browsing (so I don't have to cart a laptop with me).
What setting combination do I need for this? I can't do full "airplane mode" b/c I will want to enable the wifi radio.
thanks,
Mike
To answer my own question (a few more hours of Googling), it looks like APNDroid may be the answer to this dilemna... but if there is something better, would love to hear about it.
Hmm well if you get a card with no data service then you have nothing to worry about. Just find a wifi signal and you're set. If you do get data service but still want to use only wifi, one solution is to only use data services when you're connected with wifi...... and don't use them when you're not...... the phone will prefer wifi over 3G/EDGE when its connected. If you really need to get rambo with it you can just break your APN settings to guarantee no data connection over the network
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Hmm well if you get a card with no data service then you have nothing to worry about. Just find a wifi signal and you're set. If you do get data service but still want to use only wifi, one solution is to only use data services when you're connected with wifi...... and don't use them when you're not...... the phone will prefer wifi over 3G/EDGE when its connected. If you really need to get rambo with it you can just break your APN settings to guarantee no data connection over the network
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(smacks forehead).... good point about the SIM if it doesn't support data
what is rambo? when I search "rambo android" all I get is references to an Indian cartoon.
zim2dive said:
I'll be out of the country and wanted to pick up a local SIM card. I'm not sure it will have data available on this local SIM (or lets assume it might, but might be crazy expensive).
I'd like to use the phone only for calls and also use the wifi for some very limited browsing (so I don't have to cart a laptop with me).
What setting combination do I need for this? I can't do full "airplane mode" b/c I will want to enable the wifi radio.
thanks,
Mike
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Go to Market and download "Toggle Data" might even be one word. Its a widget i i think this is what your looking for.
zim2dive said:
what is rambo? when I search "rambo android" all I get is references to an Indian cartoon.
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haha...
Rambo... see attached.
What I mean is you can break the access point settings by, for instance, removing the password in Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. That way your phone would still make calls but couldn't connect to the mobile data network if it tried. There may be more subtle methods, but the commando approach is often more fun... do a google image search for commando if you're not sure what i mean
Unless you know the Access Point password, it may be more practical to alter the Access Point Name if you want to maintain the ability to connect later - ie, if I changed mine from "epc.tmobile.com" to "epc.immobile.com", I could change it back later.
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haha...
Rambo... see attached.
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ah yes.. the brute force approach ... I know it well
What I mean is you can break the access point settings by, for instance, removing the password in Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. That way your phone would still make calls but couldn't connect to the mobile data network if it tried. There may be more subtle methods, but the commando approach is often more fun... do a google image search for commando if you're not sure what i mean
Unless you know the Access Point password, it may be more practical to alter the Access Point Name if you want to maintain the ability to connect later - ie, if I changed mine from "epc.tmobile.com" to "epc.immobile.com", I could change it back later.
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if I understand correctly that is what APNDroid will do for me (post #2)
Does anyone know of an app that would help me find out what application/process is causing my 3G connection to turn on randomly...... a lot?
I've gone through all the options i can, to stop any program that runs updates (Twitter, Facebook, Stocks, ActiveSync, Internet time etc) but the connection STILL randomly connects >.<
Any help appreciated!
Pooper said:
Does anyone know of an app that would help me find out what application/process is causing my 3G connection to turn on randomly...... a lot?
I've gone through all the options i can, to stop any program that runs updates (Twitter, Facebook, Stocks, ActiveSync, Internet time etc) but the connection STILL randomly connects >.<
Any help appreciated!
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Thank you for asking that.
Finally someone else who find that's completely "censored".
I give you official answers from my phone provider:
It's normal. To avoid receiving a big bill, you should buy a pack data download, so if it randomly connects, you are safe. Other users reporting the same and its normal and the data pack is perfect solution- No comments
I give you answer from HTC support:
Go into settings/submenu/megasubmenu... whatever, and check "phone usage" n(which only tells the calls usage by the way, not the data)- no comments
I give you answer from forums users:
Yes either try this wonderful application: x,y,z to know the usage : (its paying ones).
Or completely mess the configuration to connect to internet via your HTC HD2 "quietly brilliant" device (very quietly)...
Ok you understand, you're more or less screwed and have to accept that complete scam.
And apparently we are 2 in the world now, to find that's an essential feature, missing (another one).
Ho and to actually diagnose which one is using gprs... Hm we can't even control to say "NO never activate DATA", because the button automatically turns on (quietly stupid).
This cab allows you to disable all data connections...enjoy
My phone was starting data connections all the time when I first flashed a cooked ROM and had it set up with the SFR Always On data connection... On my stock SFR ROM it was called Full Internet but it used exactly the same settings but I didn't have the problem so I just tried changing the name from Always One back to Full Internet and it worked strangely enough... I don't know if that can help but it might be worth a shot .
Hi guys
wondering if someone can help me with an issue im having regarding mobile data useage. I am in the UK and I live in an area where 3g is non existant so I have switched to GSM only in the settings. My problem is my phone is constantly using data and I dont know why or how to stop it.
I downloaded an app to show mobile useage, calls, text, data etc
My provider charges me £4 per 1 Mb (this is 1024kb yeah?)
Well I then went into the settings and edited the providers auto settings to stop it from connecting, and left my wi fi on. When I went to bed, my data was showing 0.24Mb, when I woke up this morning it was showing 1.23Mb (with a cost of over £4)
What is causing this? Far as I can tell I have manually stopped the phone from connecting but something is using data. I have the Gmail sync option enabled (but wi fi was on) but still, it went up 1 Mb whilst I slept.
Can someone help me out with this issue please as its starting to confuse me
As far as I know, push email doesn't work over wifi. So if you have google syncing enabled, it keeps a small mobile connection open at all times over which email notifications are sent.
I'm not an IT guy, so I might be wrong But just try to disable syncing and see what happens!
I opened the thread "strange bug" related to this. In my case it uses more 3g band only if it's attached to the pc via usb. When I must attach the X10 to the pc I disable the apn with apndroid.
Ciao Angelo
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gmail does work on wifi as far as I can tell. However, I have now gone further into the internet settings and wiped all of the data and the phone now cannot connect. Now this will save me a bundle of cash, but also means that I cant get my internet connection when away from wifi. The APN apps looked good but a lot say dont work with CDMA networks, which I can only assume im on as the apps do nothing
I use WiFi too. But when X10 is attached to the pc it continues to use 3g band even if in the notification bar the WiFi icon appears.
Ciao Angelo
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well I didnt know that.
I can confirm that Gmail sync DOES work over wi-fi as I have completely deleted the phones internet settings now and am still getting my email.
So this means I will no longer be getting charged for data useage, but cant get internet other than wi fi
cybrid3, you didnt need to wipe the apn/internet settings, there is a simple tick box in /wireless controls /mobile networks/ MMS and data <<, unticking this will stop the phone from using any mobile data (sms/texting still works).
Turning off 3g doesnt make any difference as the phone still uses data over gprs or gsm.
These phones are real data hogs and its best to get a cheap plan if you can.
yeah, but if I disabled it all, then I would not longer have MMS and that is something I do use
Ask your provider to:
1. block data
or
2. give you APN settings for MMS only.
Theres also the possibility that wifi is set to disable itself after the phone goes to sleep.
I left my wifi settings on and let the phone sleep. Based on testing through the wifi active time on spare parts, the phone accessed data through the carrier.
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ask your provider for wap access not data
its very cheap
this way u can send and get mms
Why don't you get a plan that includes unlimited data? Only cost me £5 a month extra for that on uk vodafone.. Well worth it.
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I have unlimited data, but they say I have gone over my fair use policy so something has been in the background. It used 1 MB whilst I slept. The plans with fair use of 1GB seem pretty useless now