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Hi guys,
I have been reading up on software such as IP Dashboard monitor and such, as a means of calculating what my mobile phone useage is as I go. Such software though only takes into consideration free minutes, which is useless to me.
IS there any software out there that actually allows you to set peak/offpeak times,
-enter a peak/offpeak rate per ?? seconds for landline calls
-peak/offpeak rate per ?? seconds for mobile calls
-special call rates (eg calling a particular number for 10 cents per 10 minutes)
Is there such a program that allows for such flxibility??? It would however, need to convert with currencies and such. Im in Austraila. Such a program would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo useful for alot of us. Any help would be appreciated.
there is phone dashboard by hudsonmobile.com who does what u want.
Sorry, thats the one I tried. I meant that one, by Hudson. Are you trying to tell me that it can do what I asked? When I went through the options, all it said I could do was set a monthly free limit, bucket size, and thats about it. I didnt find any options where I could specify an exact amount per 30seconds, or per 10 seconds., peak or off peak.
I want the same functionallity, and also have the possibility to use prepay cards and have sms cost tracking.
Contacted Hudson mobile, but there software can't do this.
Haven't found anything else yet.
I've been using Phone Dashboard by HudsonMobile for a few months now and love it. There is a "round up to 1 minute" function that you can deselect to get seconds. More importantly, though, I had a problem with how they calculated their usage graph, which started on the 1st day of the month. I needed it to start on the 9th, my billing start date. I emailed them and within a few days they had changed the software!!! They were very responsive and willing to update their software to meet market needs. I would continue to try them and send them an email ([email protected]). I'm sure if it isn't in there now, they would like to add it to make the software work for more people and increase their market potential. Also, I sent them an email telling them about this forum so they could help out.
Hope this helps, since I don't know of any other software that comes close
http://hudsonmobile.com/products/phodash/features.html
I've been using it too for nearly 3 months and it is a great product, the devlopement team is really very firendly.
The 1.1 version does almost all what you need but it can only track minutes and seconds not yet prices, i think it is upcoming in the next realeases.
Regards,
Olliesshop wrote, "I had a problem with how they calculated their usage graph, which started on the 1st day of the month. I needed it to start on the 9th, my billing start date. I emailed them and within a few days they had changed the software!!!"
I've set my start date as 15th but the only display that seems to use this is the call list. The today screen scrolling display and the graphs still show the usage from the 1st of the month, am i missing something?
Make sure you download the latest version from Handango - it will give you Monthly Usage from the first day of your billing period - many people found the previous implementation very confusing. The Plan Tracker should always be keyed to the first day of your billing period.
So what you are really looking for is something that can look in your contact list and weather you call out or pick up a caller id comming in be able to catagorize the minutes you just used into one of the many diffrent types each plan allows. Like mobile to mobile, nifghts and weekends, free, and of course the ever dreaded pay per minute. and when you get done with a call if the software couldn't tell what type of call it was because it wasn't in your contact list it would ask you to tell it what it was so it would know next time.
Yes that would be something that would be the best thing since sliced bread and would sell as fast as hot cakes. Boy is this making me hungry. :lol:
Ive been using juice plotter to check on my huge batter drain over the last few days since installing darkstone froyo v2, ive been slowly adding different apps to control the power consumption. I understand all rooted android roms have similar issues, hopefully a combination of these apps will help.
from stock darkstone froyo (ie no power control apps) i was losing 90% of battery in 7 hours. This was with wifi/gps/bluetooth off and not much usage. I also found the phone Stopping at 93% charge when plugged in. To fix this leave it plugged in and turn the phone off for 15 mins. Reboot android and It will have reached the full 100%. I think the android rom I have has issues charging on USB so I disabled the charge on USB in the settings.
Ok here are my personal findings I have on various power saving apps.
APP: JUICE PLOTTER
RATING: 4/5
BATTERY SAVED: N/A
PRICE: FREE from app store
shows a graphical chart of power consumption vs time , good for diagnosing how much extra power draw your activated features have (ie wifi, bluetooth) shows the time these features start and end at also, be it manually started or automatically.
APP: APP KILLER
RATING: 4/5
BATTERY SAVED: 30 - 60 mins on a full battery
PRICE: FREE, Pro upgrade is minimal cost from app store (gives extra features)
I set mine to aggressive killing. this improved my battery slightly, probably increased battery by about 30mins to 1 hr on a full charge. The main thing I like with this app is the automatic, set time, multiple killing of other apps. Unfortunaly i found the app killing not to permenant as some restart again a little while after. This has minimal battery save for my programs but depending what your apps/services are consuming on terms of resources, it can save much more. The auto kill stops the phone from been bogged down, it is much quicker to respond once its stopped other apps and wakes from sleep quicker. This app also shows you a list of all current running apps and services that you can quit, switch to etc. I found stock android to have this sort of task manager feature missing.
APP: SETCPU
RATING: 3.5/5
PRICE: free on XDA (donation recommended ) small price from app store.
BATTERY SAVE: about 1 hr - much Cooler running phone temp.
This app is very good as it can set you CPU speed to save battery. Mine is set to 833mhz when used, 255mhz in idle. 432mhz when the screen is off. This Saves small amounts of battery but still has a decent response and speed, also improvements on wake up from sleep. You can save more power with more conservative speeds, although your phone may be less responsive. On the flip side push up the MHz to increase speed and responsiveness of your hd2 for increased battery usage.
Upon heavy use of my phone with a high CPU speed I saw a slight battery drop with SETCPU, probably due to my CPU speed being at 1033mhz at the time.
CLEANED MY EMAIL INBOX
BATTERY SAVING: 7 hrs
I found that mobile web was constantly running on android. as I hadn't cleaned my email inbox fully a few emails from a month or so ago kept been synced to my phone to notify me. Once I deleted these My battery saved near to 7 hrs per full battery. I assume it was constantly downloading the old emails. So make sure you email account is maintained.
APP: TASKER
PRICE: just under £4. Cheaper from developers site
RATING: 4.5/5
BATTERY SAVE: 15 HRS
This is the greatest power saving app I've used.
I've set my mobile data to automatically be off. Every half hour it will turn on for 5 mins to update emails, news, weather etc. It will also enable web when I unlock the Phone. Disable web once I've turned off the screen. It also stops syncing at night so it doesn't wake me with a notification sound. This saves me an extra 15 hrs on a full battery.
One thing I'm doing next is to stop certain apps from booting until I need them. sort of a scalpel approach as apposed to app killers kill em all method.
one issue i found is the learning curve to be quite high on tasker but it wll only take 20 mins to get the hang of how to do what i did above. Hopefully the deveoper will make an easier interface but its still very good. The power saving feature of tasker is only a small part of the tasks this phone can do. It can literally Automise most tasks for your android.
Wth all these apps my battery now lasts on average for 24hrs upon normal usage, 30hrs+ on light usage (better than my win mob) and around 18 hrs on heavy usage.
Hope this helps any one looking for a decent power app. feel free to add your experience with these and oter power saving methods for android HD2
interesting thx.. so tasker is just a automater it doesn't actually stop the apps from staying open in the background or can it? thats the thing annoying me i kill all apps then i go check and i see useless apps still running in the background and i don't want to have to uninstall the apps just to disable them from running in the background. btw did u try the text to speech on incoming calls? im thinking bout purchasing it.
jay_jay_n said:
interesting thx.. so tasker is just a automater it doesn't actually stop the apps from staying open in the background or can it? thats the thing annoying me i kill all apps then i go check and i see useless apps still running in the background and i don't want to have to uninstall the apps just to disable them from running in the background. btw did u try the text to speech on incoming calls? im thinking bout purchasing it.
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yeah tasker can be made to stop indivdual programs from booting rather than app killers stop em all. tasker keeps em stopped until you want to run them of course. you have to select scripts to do this tought. The program is amazing, you can auto set your phone to go silent when you walk into work, cinema etc etc by using GPS. Auto connect to car bluetooth once you get in your car, connect it for calls then stop bluetooth once you get out. Have your phone read you your messages once you have navigator on in the car, so you dont need to touch it. send an automatic sms reply to certain people, ie work collegues if your in a meeting..... its a full automisation program, the options are endless if you know what scripts to select to get it working.
I sadly can only do basic ones but in willing to learn, there are a few tutorials online for certain tasks, im just hoping the developer will release updates to make it easier for the advanced tasks.
lol ive just read this back and BTW i dont represent the developer in anyway, i only bought the app 3 days ago. I did a bit of research on it as thought it was a bit expensive and im glad i did buy it, it depends what functionality you want with your phone i suppose. I bought it as it cures my power options and i can taunt my mates who have iphones (i received a lot of stick when it had winmob on as the main as it kept having issues and wasnt very fun for me to use).
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yeah tasker can be made to stop indivdual programs from booting rather than app killers stop em all. tasker keeps em stopped until you want to run them of course. you have to select scripts to do this tought. The program is amazing, you can auto set your phone to go silent when you walk into work, cinema etc etc by using GPS. Auto connect to car bluetooth once you get in your car, connect it for calls then stop bluetooth once you get out. Have your phone read you your messages once you have navigator on in the car, so you dont need to touch it. send an automatic sms reply to certain people, ie work collegues if your in a meeting..... its a full automisation program, the options are endless if you know what scripts to select to get it working.
I sadly can only do basic ones but in willing to learn, there are a few tutorials online for certain tasks, im just hoping the developer will release updates to make it easier for the advanced tasks.
lol ive just read this back and BTW i dont represent the developer in anyway, i only bought the app 3 days ago. I did a bit of research on it as though it was a bit expensive and im glad i did buy it, it depends what functonalty you want with your phone i suppose.
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great thx.. yeah ive been trying to find a good app that would help make things a bit easier especially when driving and reading txt messages is a plus, if u recieve calls does tasker say aloud the caller name while the ringtone is still ringing or does it replace the ringer? ive had issues with other speech announcers.
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great thx.. yeah ive been trying to find a good app that would help make things a bit easier especially when driving and reading txt messages is a plus, if u recieve calls does tasker say aloud the caller name while the ringtone is still ringing or does it replace the ringer? ive had issues with other speech announcers.
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Im not sure in all honestly, ive not really got around to looking into other tasks apart from battery power saving ones. ive read a few of the posts on the developers website forum and he seems very good and swift at answering questions on the apps features. He also has a suggestion page for users to add stuff. Its one of the reasons that swayed me into buying it as hes clearly spent a lot of time on the development of the app, is very active on his site and seems update the app with newer features. His site link is on marketplace with his app.
Update; I've just checked my battery as I left if off charge last night. It was 48% when I went to sleep its now 40%. This averages at 1% per hour!!! Battery usage has now increased that I'm using it.
How do you setup your tasker? I got it but have no idea how to use...
why i cant find tasker in market??
elitishtc said:
why i cant find tasker in market??
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Tut, use your head and look elsewhere
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html
bates_1974 said:
Tut, use your head and look elsewhere
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html
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sometimes the obvious is far away..
thanks
I'm currently sync'ing with Exchange and Hotmail and I *think* I have everything else pretty much turned off. I'm seeing an average daily dl total of almost 30MB. I'm on a 500MB plan and really don't feel like going over. Are there any apps I should be looking for that might be running in the background and really running up my MB usage?
That seems high. Are you polling or pushing your email? Push would use less data.
If you never go on wifi then you're clearly going to go over.
after a full week of synching with gmail and an exchange server + downloading ALOT of apps from market + youtube + gps + twitter, and I've managed to pull about a 150MB so far according to the bell self serv app
I've been averaging like 20-40MB per day since I've used Android phones for ~10 months.
I have the 6gb data plan so there isn't ever much worrying.
hye everyone. I just bought HD mini used set. my battery usually last only for a day and a half(main use only for sms n call). does this battery life is normal or its too low?i want to know how long it could last if for regular usage(call and sms). if the different is too big, i want to buy a new battery. thank you for ur help
I can go for 1 to 2 days too. That's normal
Mine work for 1 and half day.
Used: phone, sms, mail (sincronise every 10 minutes), weather (sincronise every 1 hour).
I think is normal for this phone.
ok.thanks guys
And how long it goes with CHT installed?
i use cht. 1 day and quarter
And it`s justifie to have Cht installed?
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And it`s justifie to have Cht installed?
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Ist not necessary, but it as some usefull features I don´t want to miss anymore
Usually battery life enough for one day: calls (20-30 minutes), messages, inernet apps (opera and IM) and navigation.
Is there an alternative to 3g watchdog it is definitely not calculating my usage correctly and this could potantially be very costly for me, unfortunately an unlimited data plan in this recession hit country is like everything else way too expensive so i just pay 69 cents a day for 50MB and if i go over then (which i have done before) they charge you a fortune which is why i use 3g watchdog which incidentally used to run fine on my old HD2 but since ive got the GS2 it's been constanly wrong if i send a text to check my balance which ive just done i can see ive used 41.69MB so far today yet 3g watchdog tells me ive only used 20.69 that is over half so imagine i forgot to send a text to get my balance and just keep surfing the net,suddendly i discover all my credit is eaten up, Meteor don't care they aint in the business of warning people who go over their 50MB daily limit which is why it's imperative i have the correct usuage.
Sorry for the long post but you can see my prediament.
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Is there an alternative to 3g watchdog it is definitely not calculating my usage correctly and this could potantially be very costly for me, unfortunately an unlimited data plan in this recession hit country is like everything else way too expensive so i just pay 69 cents a day for 50MB and if i go over then (which i have done before) they charge you a fortune which is why i use 3g watchdog which incidentally used to run fine on my old HD2 but since ive got the GS2 it's been constanly wrong if i send a text to check my balance which ive just done i can see ive used 41.69MB so far today yet 3g watchdog tells me ive only used 20.69 that is over half so imagine i forgot to send a text to get my balance and just keep surfing the net,suddendly i discover all my credit is eaten up, Meteor don't care they aint in the business of warning people who go over their 50MB daily limit which is why it's imperative i have the correct usuage.
Sorry for the long post but you can see my prediament.
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I used two software's which are/were precise.
1- Data Counter Widget
2- Traffic Counter
If there are any other precise counter apps out there, please let us know.
Thanks for the recommendations, ive no idea why 3g watchdog is calculating the usage incorrectly as with my old HD2 it was always spot on, anymore recommendations/tips appreciated.
give a look into droidwall also. it'll let you block off apps that you don't want using data over 3g
I have been using 3G watchdog on android for 2 years now, and its always been perfect for me, so long as you set it up correctly (and so long as your not forcing it to close...) it will calculate for you.
Lennyuk said:
I have been using 3G watchdog on android for 2 years now, and its always been perfect for me, so long as you set it up correctly (and so long as your not forcing it to close...) it will calculate for you.
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the funny thing is it worked perfectly with my HD2 it was always spot on but has not worked properly with the GS2, i have even reset it a few times and cleared the counters but it's still wrong, i have it set to 50MB a day to warn me @ 95% quota and to auto disable 3G via juice defender at 98% quota,when im in the UK i use Giff Gaff and no problems with unlimited data but here i cannot go over 50MB or will be charged a fortune.
I suppose ill try some more recommended apps and see hopw i go from there.
ZDBox is a good app and also breaks down usage per app so you can quickly figure out any rogue apps that are using too much data.
Does your wireless provder offer an app or at least a way to check your usage through the web? My carrier does which helps get an idea of where my usage is and could help if yours does too
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ZDBox is a good app and also breaks down usage per app so you can quickly figure out any rogue apps that are using too much data.
Does your wireless provder offer an app or at least a way to check your usage through the web? My carrier does which helps get an idea of where my usage is and could help if yours does too
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I have ZDBox i didn't know it done that ill look into it cheers.
Does your wireless provder offer an app or at least a way to check your usage through the web? My carrier does which helps get an idea of where my usage is and could help if yours does to
Yeah Meteor has an app but it only lets you see how many calls and texts you've made nothing for data unfortunately , i just send a text to 50104 with "balance data" and it sends me a text back with my balance,sometimes straight away other times it takes up to an hour
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I have been using 3G watchdog on android for 2 years now, and its always been perfect for me, so long as you set it up correctly (and so long as your not forcing it to close...) it will calculate for you.
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Have you ever had a problem with it keeping the phone awake when screen is off? Not totally sure its the culprit as uninstalled/froze a lot of apps before this problem disappeared.
Wondering what settings you'd recommend?