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www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
prewarning: i'm a complete microsoft exchange newbie, although i have experience in win2003 management / active directory etc.
here's what i'm trying to do.
basically, push my gmail email onto my phone (running windows mobile 5). i don't want pop access, i want actual PUSH.
how i figure this would work:
- forward my email from gmail to my local win2003 machine, which has exchange 2003 running
- exchange in turn pushes the email onto my phone immediately
- i can reply on my phone and it looks like it came from my gmail address, not from my local domain (i.e. my exchange server address).
so far i'm ok with 1 and 2, all is working golden. BUT i can't reply on my phone - it sends the message fine but shows the from address as my exchange server address.
any idea how to fix this? basically would want to set up some sort of mail relay...
any help would be appreciated! would be glad to provide a few free accounts to people who can help!
cheers!
If you have Exchange there is a way to setup an alias to accomplish this. PM me if you would like and I can explain in a PM. Basically what it does is it tricks Exchange into thinking it's sending from another e-mail address but basically it just changes the Reply to field so people see it coming from your gmail instead of your exchange account.
Maybe you should try Push Effect ?
took a look at push effect. not quite what i'd like... i odn't want any more running crap on my phone, especially not some alerting service. i want pretty much seamless integration with my outlook on my phone. it can't be hard, i'd rather do it myself for free rather than shell out something or other for licenses or software.
i'm already using emoze (emoze.com) which is good, but adds a silly little signature at the end of emails with some ad. PLUS it has added software running on my pc and phone, which i don't care much for.
try www.port88.org not sure if it's still free. When i signed up it was... amazing services
yep have seen that site. they have a suggested donation of $50, and even then not sure if they let me set my own "from" address...
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yep have seen that site. they have a suggested donation of $50, and even then not sure if they let me set my own "from" address...
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They require a donation in order to use alias, but then again, most places will. If he is already running his own exchange server, then he can just use that. Check your PMs chamelion I sent you instructions.
got the pm thanks
i did actually did do just that a little while ago and it works great (except for sending myself an email).
i have a whole new issue though, i was tryign to implement certificate authentication and now everythings messed up... it just doesn't synch up any more
i'll figure it out, or just reinstall the whole damn thing!
FINALLY got everything working - the aliases and even the SSL authentication which was a pain in the ass. turns out to have been the smallest stupidest mistake i was making, as it usually is!
if anyone wants free push email like denial is offering, shoot me a PM, i can offer the same
cheers!
This is getting frustrating. I rooted my hero and installed the Damagecontrol 2.0.8.1 ROM specifically because I figured that 2.1 fixes the issue with sending mail via Exchange. The phone still does not send mail. It at least gives an error message, but the message is completely devoid of any real info.
Does anyone have any way to get the phone to send email? I can't believe that this has not been fixed in a whole year.
-Randy
Did a search on this forums only and came up with 7 threads.
Mail Exchange
I didn't read any as I don't use exchange.
But you might want to start there.
If that isn't enough, try search the whole of CDMA.
Thanks,
Bubba.
P.S. might try posting in Damagecontrol dev thread also.
None of those threads mention anything about the sending issue.
I can't believe no one else is using exchange sync.
-Randy
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None of those threads mention anything about the sending issue.
I can't believe no one else is using exchange sync.
-Randy
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I am using exchange on Fresh 2.0d with no issues. My exchange server is running exchange 2003.
I have mail and contacts sync'd through exchange.
I'm having the same issue on my Exchange server. It has to do with plain text, if you reply to an email I bet it works. You're probably running something like Mail Marshal which is blocking the email. After you've sent a new email check the sent on your Outlook, and you'll see it's there. It's this leak because it worked fine for me on 1.5
It has to be your specific exchange server setup. I'm using Exchange Server 2007 via ExchangeMyMail and no issues.
I use both a 2003 server and a 2007 server and I have no issues sending or anything. Biggest issue I have is that GAL doesn't come to the phone, I have to search to find names instead of browsing a list.
I agree it has to be your particular setting. Have you tried checking/unchecking the ssl connection option? I think I recall reading that you could receive but not send depending on that option and how your server ia setup.
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I have had no problems with the 1.5 or 2.1 software in connecting to my exchange server. What does your mail administrator say? They could easily pull the server log files to see what is going on.
I am the mail administrator
Additional research shows that it is a problem specifically with HTC devices. They are not properly implementing the protocol.
The app is setting the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" to "utf-8" which is invalid.
My mail server is Zimbra 6.x, which uses the Exchange 2003 protocols. My guess is that the true Microsoft servers either have specific support for the non-compliant HTC devices, or just happen to work because Microsoft isn't closely following their own standards (which happens more than one would think).
Looks like there is an unofficial patch to work around this specific issue.
Maybe some enterprising person can fix HTC's buggy app for them and include it in a custom ROM. I really like the HTC mail app otherwise.
-Randy
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Additional research shows that it is a problem specifically with HTC devices. They are not properly implementing the protocol.
The app is setting the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" to "utf-8" which is invalid.
My mail server is Zimbra 6.x, which uses the Exchange 2003 protocols. My guess is that the true Microsoft servers either have specific support for the non-compliant HTC devices, or just happen to work because Microsoft isn't closely following their own standards (which happens more than one would think).
Looks like there is an unofficial patch to work around this specific issue.
Maybe some enterprising person can fix HTC's buggy app for them and include it in a custom ROM. I really like the HTC mail app otherwise.
-Randy
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do you have access to this unofficial patch. I'd like to try it out.
From what I've learned, this isn't specific to HTC, it's an Android thing. There was only partial support for security policies in 1.5 and now more complete support in 2.1. I've been successfully sending/receiving Exchange emails, contacts, and calendar items (sending and accepting) in both 1.5 and 2.1.
In 1.5 I had to have the Exchange admin change the mobile device support setting to allow all devices. In 2.1 he was able to change it back and my Hero then enforced a security policy that made me enter a PIN every time I unlocked my phone.
There were some general Android-specific issues before, but this is specific to HTC's broken mail application.
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do you have access to this unofficial patch. I'd like to try it out.
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http://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41145
All of the info and the patched file is there.
I am the Exchange 2007 admin here and I've never had an issue with my phone, on 1.5 or on 2.1 now. Both Damage's and the Fresh roms work fine to sync mail, contacts, and calendar items. I can send and receive just fine.
The global address list will not show up as a list, you will always have to search. That's the way it is implemented in OWA.
I would think that if you are not using Exchange Server, but someone else's implementation, it's not HTC that's at fault... It's more than likely the faulty implementation of the exchange clone.
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I am the Exchange 2007 admin here and I've never had an issue with my phone, on 1.5 or on 2.1 now. Both Damage's and the Fresh roms work fine to sync mail, contacts, and calendar items. I can send and receive just fine.
The global address list will not show up as a list, you will always have to search. That's the way it is implemented in OWA.
I would think that if you are not using Exchange Server, but someone else's implementation, it's not HTC that's at fault... It's more than likely the faulty implementation of the exchange clone.
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I am using an Exchange Server that patch above isn't something I can use. I can receive emails, reply and forward but here's the zinger. when I compose it sends and the program known as mail marshal see's the email and stops it from sending. But when I go to my computer look in the sent folder the email shows up immediately. We've set Mail marshal to low and apparently the issue is with the Mail Format, and since I'm on 2003 the mail app doesn't let me change this option. I used Touchdown to see if this was the case, and BINGO I was able to compose without issue. Now I don't like the functionality of touchdown very much so I refuse to use it. Do you guys know of a workaround to change the mail format that's grayed out in the settings?
HTC's implementation is obviously wrong, as indicated by the details that have already been listed.
It looks like Exchange Server is either not checking for valid message headers (which doesn't surprise me), or is specifically allowing the invalid Content-Transfer-Encoding header.
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HTC's implementation is obviously wrong, as indicated by the details that have already been listed.
It looks like Exchange Server is either not checking for valid message headers (which doesn't surprise me), or is specifically allowing the invalid Content-Transfer-Encoding header.
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I see a different error, but my error is with MailMarshal. Does anyone deal with MailMarshal?
I ran into this issue at work with MailMarshal. You need to add an exception into MailMarshal to allow incorrect types through.
I did this a few months ago so I don't remember off the top of my head exactly where the change was made. (Not at work right now)
I'll let you know if I remember.
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I see a different error, but my error is with MailMarshal. Does anyone deal with MailMarshal?
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This is what I had to do to get it working.
sorry...can't post links yet.
Go to mailmarshal site: m86security dot com
click on support and search for Q10166.
Read that article, it should help if you want to implement it.
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This is what I had to do to get it working.
sorry...can't post links yet.
Go to mailmarshal site: m86security dot com
click on support and search for Q10166.
Read that article, it should help if you want to implement it.
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Thanks I'll do this when I get to work tomorrow.
Hey Folks,
managed to install Win8 Consumer Preview without any problems..running smooth and stable on a medion AIO Touch Machine..
Also managed to create a domain account on that machine..
Question :
We have a Exchange Server 2003 in our local network..i tried to create a connection in the Mail app by adding an account -> Exchange, entered all the required informations and tried to connect, without success, after 2 minutes always failed.
Anyone an idea what could be wrong or is it just because of the consumer preview.
Or is it a thing because of SSL ?...
But there are no possibilities to configure them...
Any hint is highly appreciated.
Saludos
Sunny
Got the exact same problem. Looks like its ok at first since a green box appears to the left, and then it says syncing right before it fails and asks for further details.
Then i just get "[email protected]" not available. Think its just broken in the preview.
Same Problem with Exchange 2007.
I installed Win 8 on my Lenovo X220T. When I want to use the calender it tells me to register a microsoft account, but frankly spoken, I don't want to. So is there a way to directly add an exchange account, where all my calendar data is stored? And where do I add an exchange account?
Thanks!
What is weird is I had Exchange working fine by signing into the Microsoft Account and setting it up. But then I joined our domain, and now I cannot get it to connect at all.
It may be a glitch in this preview, but try un-joining the domain and see if it works for you then. I just did that, and my Exchange inbox is running again.
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What is weird is I had Exchange working fine by signing into the Microsoft Account and setting it up. But then I joined our domain, and now I cannot get it to connect at all.
It may be a glitch in this preview, but try un-joining the domain and see if it works for you then. I just did that, and my Exchange inbox is running again.
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So, what does that mean? Does it mean that I HAVE TO sign up a microsoft account in order to not syncing with it, but with my exchange server? I want to directly sync with my exchange server... windows phone 7 can do it as well...
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So, what does that mean? Does it mean that I HAVE TO sign up a microsoft account in order to not syncing with it, but with my exchange server? I want to directly sync with my exchange server... windows phone 7 can do it as well...
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I couldn't find a way to not sign into a MS account before setting up my exchange account (but yes, after that it directly syncs).
This could easily be because this is a consumer preview, of course. But I have a MS account, so it wasn't a big deal to me. I signed in, and it let me sign into the exchange account.
But again, the odd thing is once I joined the domain, I lost the ability to set this up. When I left the domain, the exchange account worked again.
For now I'm just chalking that up to pre-release weirdness, and using it off domain.
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I couldn't find a way to not sign into a MS account before setting up my exchange account (but yes, after that it directly syncs).
This could easily be because this is a consumer preview, of course. But I have a MS account, so it wasn't a big deal to me. I signed in, and it let me sign into the exchange account.
But again, the odd thing is once I joined the domain, I lost the ability to set this up. When I left the domain, the exchange account worked again.
For now I'm just chalking that up to pre-release weirdness, and using it off domain.
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Can you please tell us which version uf exchange you use... and is your exchange connection ssl based?
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Can you please tell us which version uf exchange you use... and is your exchange connection ssl based?
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Yes, Exchange 2007, uses SSL.
Attached is what the display looks like once it's up. Sorry for all the redacting, but I don't want to spread anyone's personal info.
The inbox is pretty basic, and your options are limited, but then I've not installed an Office product or anything, I'm just connecting through its normal interface, the way I would through Windows Phone or the like.
Going to try installing Office in the Desktop environment today I hope. No idea if that'll work at all.
Connected to 2 Exchange Servers
FWIIW I've got it connected to two Exchange Servers (a corporate 2007 system and a hosted 2010 system) and it is working.
A few notes:
Those that have commented here about having to first logon with an MS Live account (if joined to a Domain or using a Local User Account/Profile) I am seeing the same thing. Not real happy with this (actually I’m not real happy with a lot of App issues surrounding the whole “must use a Windows Live Logon/Profile to get the full features of this App approach but I promised myself I’d not do the rant in this post”) However once that has been done it appears that you can set up multiple accounts with ease.
Having corporate IT correctly set up Exchange Front-End Certs and Mobile Device Policies correctly are critical (and yes, I’ve designed a few Exchange systems in my time so I know some of the mistakes that can be made there) so if people are seeing policy-applied errors or sync refusal problems it could be because of the Beta nature of the app but I’d also would be looking at the Front-End or CAS server setups as well as currently deployed policies (depending on the version of Exchange)
Overall my impression so far is that the App feels remarkably like the original email/calendar App in WP7, which is a shame because what MS should be shooting for is an App that works more like the WP7 Mango version. Like that version I’d really like to see the following:
• Option to create separate tiles for each account or selectively combine accounts together at the users discretion (this feature kicks ass over the iPhone/iPad/Android options right now and I want it in Metro as well)
• Option to select Calendars and Colors that I want to use in the Calendar Function (right now I get every Calendar folder I have created on both exchange servers – hated that on the pre-Mango WP7 and hating it on WP8 DP as well
• Needs to work correctly regardless of whether it is a domain account, local account, or MS live account (seriously MS, this should be a no-brainer)
With only 36 hours to really bang on it so far I’m sure I’ll find a few more quirks but so far it kind of sorta works as advertised for me. Juts needs a LOT of refinement
Howdy...
I'm using the standard email client (not Gmail) on my note 3...
My issue is that when I delete an email through either my laptop client, or my email's webclient (I use Fastmail.fm), the emails don't delete on my Note 3.
The result is that I can delete a bunch of old messages and spam on my laptop, but they hang around on my phone.
I've used K-9, and it works perfectly, deleting emails on the phone as I delete them on the laptop, but I was hoping to use the stock email client so I could have Galaxy Gear notifications from the email.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Or know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben
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Howdy...
I'm using the standard email client (not Gmail) on my note 3...
My issue is that when I delete an email through either my laptop client, or my email's webclient (I use Fastmail.fm), the emails don't delete on my Note 3.
The result is that I can delete a bunch of old messages and spam on my laptop, but they hang around on my phone.
I've used K-9, and it works perfectly, deleting emails on the phone as I delete them on the laptop, but I was hoping to use the stock email client so I could have Galaxy Gear notifications from the email.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Or know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Since you are using a stock email client on your notebook, how have you enabled the syncing with your Note 3. When using GMail and other email clients, there's an API within the device which queries the email server requesting new notifications based on what you've triggered your device to query. With a stock email client, this does not always succeed as some ISP's have crippled 3rd party applications from querying their servers.
Hope this helps!
I'm not sure what you mean by a 'stock email client on my notebook'. It's Apple Mail, but I can use my webclient too..
As I mentioned, I'm not using an ISP. I use fastmail.fm
I have enabled 'syncing' on the phone... or else I wouldn't be getting new mail at all, I suppose...
So, getting new mail is not an issue. The issue is that mail deleted on my laptop is NOT deleted on my phone. So, if I delete 100 spam emails on my laptop, they are still on my phone. Again, only with the standard email client. It works perfectly with K-9.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your response. Can you elaborate what I may be doing wrong?
Best,
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Since you are using a stock email client on your notebook, how have you enabled the syncing with your Note 3. When using GMail and other email clients, there's an API within the device which queries the email server requesting new notifications based on what you've triggered your device to query. With a stock email client, this does not always succeed as some ISP's have crippled 3rd party applications from querying their servers.
Hope this helps!
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I started having problems with the stock email app on my note 2 & gave up on it & went over to using K9 so when I got my note 3 I expected problems with it but gave it another chance & it's completely screwed up. It constantly downloads mails I've deleted & shows them as unread & sometimes displays only old mail from about a year ago.. its a total mess... its doing that "your password has changed couldn't connect" thing that it also did on my note 2... I've now deleted all the accounts off it & only use K9.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
ben1000 said:
I'm not sure what you mean by a 'stock email client on my notebook'. It's Apple Mail, but I can use my webclient too..
As I mentioned, I'm not using an ISP. I use fastmail.fm
I have enabled 'syncing' on the phone... or else I wouldn't be getting new mail at all, I suppose...
So, getting new mail is not an issue. The issue is that mail deleted on my laptop is NOT deleted on my phone. So, if I delete 100 spam emails on my laptop, they are still on my phone. Again, only with the standard email client. It works perfectly with K-9.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your response. Can you elaborate what I may be doing wrong?
Best,
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Based on your initial post, I though there were two issues:
Problems with your Apple Mail syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Problems with the K-9 application installed on your Android device syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Sorry for any confusion my post may have caused! This will be the best way to explain things and let me know should you have questions...
K-9 is an email client which you have installed on your Android device. This client has been configured during its initial setup so when you receive new mail, it is delivered to K-9 on your Android device. Syncing has been turned on so what you do with the remote client (K-9) will reflect on the server (fastmail.fm) and vice-versa. There is usually some type of setting triggered where on conflict, the server takes priority.
The above as you've suggested is working correctly but the problem here is with your Apple Mail:
Apple Mail is your client application within OS-X which supports the handling of email. During the configuration of this application, you have entered all your server settings for fastmail.fm so this client (Apple Mail) will query and pull email from the fastmail.fm server either real time, in specific intervals (5 min, 10 min etc...) or simply when you click a "Check Mail" button.
The problem you have is whenever you update Apple Mail, the changes are not reflecting (or syncing) to your device. I do not know much about Apple Mail but your issue would lead me to the conclusion you have disabled this ability within your Apple Mail program. I would double check your settings and make sure you have enabled your Apple Mail program to propagate changes to the server. This will allow changes made to email within your remote client to update server-side and should reflect across all your devices which are configured with the fastmail.fm email account.
The only issue is Apple products are very strict with their security measures so I know the Apple Mail client will download from the server but I'm unsure if it allows a post-back to update the server regarding changes made through the Apple Mail client. I'm sure it's a simple fix within the settings but if not, I'm assuming it has to do with a layer of security being implemented by Apple but not being an Apple user myself, someone else would need to clarify.
Hope this helps!
Howdy...
There's nothing wrong with Apple Mail... Working perfectly.
Nothing wrong with the webapp from Fastmail. Also perfect.
Nothing wrong with K-9. Works perfectly.
The issue is with the stock Android Mail app on my Note 3.
Cellrama... I sincerely appreciate your efforts, but perhaps you could confine yourself to just dealing with that issue, as I seem to be having a very tough time explaining the situation to you... There's nothing at all wrong with the laptop, webapp, or K-9. They have all been working as they should for several years now...
My only issue is that I would like to receive email notifications on my Gear.. So, I have to use the default Android email client.
But, as was stated by the other poster, it seems not to work correctly. When iMAP email is deleted, that delete should sync across all clients. With me, it's syncing perfectly with every client except Android Email.
I apologize if my initial post confused you. I'm new to this forum, and I don't seem to be having much luck describing the problem in a way you are able to understand, so again, I apologize.
If anyone else has a solution to the issue, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Best,
Ben
cellrama said:
Hi Ben,
Based on your initial post, I though there were two issues:
Problems with your Apple Mail syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Problems with the K-9 application installed on your Android device syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Sorry for any confusion my post may have caused! This will be the best way to explain things and let me know should you have questions...
K-9 is an email client which you have installed on your Android device. This client has been configured during its initial setup so when you receive new mail, it is delivered to K-9 on your Android device. Syncing has been turned on so what you do with the remote client (K-9) will reflect on the server (fastmail.fm) and vice-versa. There is usually some type of setting triggered where on conflict, the server takes priority.
The above as you've suggested is working correctly but the problem here is with your Apple Mail:
Apple Mail is your client application within OS-X which supports the handling of email. During the configuration of this application, you have entered all your server settings for fastmail.fm so this client (Apple Mail) will query and pull email from the fastmail.fm server either real time, in specific intervals (5 min, 10 min etc...) or simply when you click a "Check Mail" button.
The problem you have is whenever you update Apple Mail, the changes are not reflecting (or syncing) to your device. I do not know much about Apple Mail but your issue would lead me to the conclusion you have disabled this ability within your Apple Mail program. I would double check your settings and make sure you have enabled your Apple Mail program to propagate changes to the server. This will allow changes made to email within your remote client to update server-side and should reflect across all your devices which are configured with the fastmail.fm email account.
The only issue is Apple products are very strict with their security measures so I know the Apple Mail client will download from the server but I'm unsure if it allows a post-back to update the server regarding changes made through the Apple Mail client. I'm sure it's a simple fix within the settings but if not, I'm assuming it has to do with a layer of security being implemented by Apple but not being an Apple user myself, someone else would need to clarify.
Hope this helps!
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
I'm using the standard email client (not Gmail) on my note 3...
My issue is that when I delete an email through either my laptop client, or my email's webclient (I use Fastmail.fm), the emails don't delete on my Note 3.
The result is that I can delete a bunch of old messages and spam on my laptop, but they hang around on my phone.
I've used K-9, and it works perfectly, deleting emails on the phone as I delete them on the laptop, but I was hoping to use the stock email client so I could have Galaxy Gear notifications from the email.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Or know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
When you setup your fastmail account, did you set it up as a "POP" account or an "IMAP" account? POP accounts will only pull a copy of the email from the server to your device, but will not push changes made on your device back to the server. IMAP, however, is a two-way email protocol that will push changes made on your phone to the server. It looks like Fastmail supports both POP & IMAP, so I would try following the instructions listed here.
Howdy...
Thanks, but it's IMAP. I assume that if it weren't, it wouldn't work perfectly with Apple Mail, WebMail, and K-9.
It seems no one really wants to admit that this is an Android problem... No worries, I appreciate the help, and will look elsewhere... I appreciate the time you took to reply...
Best,
Ben
edwmsjr said:
Ben,
When you setup your fastmail account, did you set it up as a "POP" account or an "IMAP" account? POP accounts will only pull a copy of the email from the server to your device, but will not push changes made on your device back to the server. IMAP, however, is a two-way email protocol that will push changes made on your phone to the server. It looks like Fastmail supports both POP & IMAP, so I would try following the instructions listed here.
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
There's nothing wrong with Apple Mail... Working perfectly.
Nothing wrong with the webapp from Fastmail. Also perfect.
Nothing wrong with K-9. Works perfectly.
The issue is with the stock Android Mail app on my Note 3.
Cellrama... I sincerely appreciate your efforts, but perhaps you could confine yourself to just dealing with that issue, as I seem to be having a very tough time explaining the situation to you... There's nothing at all wrong with the laptop, webapp, or K-9. They have all been working as they should for several years now...
My only issue is that I would like to receive email notifications on my Gear.. So, I have to use the default Android email client.
But, as was stated by the other poster, it seems not to work correctly. When iMAP email is deleted, that delete should sync across all clients. With me, it's syncing perfectly with every client except Android Email.
I apologize if my initial post confused you. I'm new to this forum, and I don't seem to be having much luck describing the problem in a way you are able to understand, so again, I apologize.
If anyone else has a solution to the issue, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
Your initial posts refers to multiple devices and what works/doesn't work. I fully understood your post and was trying to provide you a little background information. I apologize if you took offense but when I ask what stock email client you're using on your notebook and the response received by you is you're unsure what I mean but you use "Apple Mail"... Well that's an email client!
The issue is when using the stock email application provided by Android, when you make changes through your Apple Mail program, this is not syncing to your device or to your Galaxy Gear for that matter. The simple answer is... With your stock Android application, as long as you have enabled IMAP, email should sync effortlessly. This has already been suggested by another member. If it is not working, you will need to check the settings in your Apple Mail client as well as your stock email application within Android. There is most likely something on the server which is blocking your sync. I would even log into fastmail.fm through your web browser and check the settings on their server to ensure everything is set correctly. As for the Galaxy Gear device... Well, I would not buy this as I've heard more bad than good and one review set focus on it's poor ability to sync email.
Hope this answers your question with more clarity.
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
Thanks, but it's IMAP. I assume that if it weren't, it wouldn't work perfectly with Apple Mail, WebMail, and K-9.
It seems no one really wants to admit that this is an Android problem... No worries, I appreciate the help, and will look elsewhere... I appreciate the time you took to reply...
Best,
Ben
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I think it's more to do with a settings issue server-side (in the settings on fastmail.fm) or through one of your clients which is used to access your email. You rely on a web-based email solution (fastmail.fm) which you access using one of many programs installed on an array of devices. The problem here is when using the stock Android application for mail, any modifications made to mail through your notebook running "Apple Mail" will not propagate across the server and update live on your device using the stock Android mail app. You already have stated every other application and program work but it's just the stock Android mail application.
This would lead me to believe the stock Android mail app does not support fastmail.fm. Many API's developers now use are custom and specific to targeted applications such as an API call to communication with GMail and their array of services. I agree you're issue pertains to the stock Android mail app. Is this an Android problem??? Just as much as it is a fastmail.fm problem. Fastmail.fm is not your most popular email program therefore, developers will not be flocking to purchase custom API's for implementation into their software.
You have answered your own question circuitously! I use the stock email app for GMail and Outlook without problem so the developer has implemented the proper API's to interact with IMAP on these specific servers but I will assume has opted against this for a less popular web-mail server.
Hope this helps!
Actually, I think it's far more likely that Apple Mail, Fastmail, and K-9 all work perfectly, and that, as has been suggested by others many times on this forum and even on this thread, the stock Android app is flawed... This would make sense, since I'm sure Google would rather you use Gmail than some other provider.
Thanks for your time, but there are many assumptions in your email that are wrong... but let's just call it quits at this point. No need to reply, as I won't be checking.
I truly appreciate the time and detail you put into your post, and I'm sure you'll help many others.
Best,
Ben
PS: I've been using the Galaxy Gear for about a week, and find it a wonderful companion. I highly recommend it. Is it perfect? No, but I believe it's the best smartwatch out there currently, and it has exceeded my admittedly lowered expectations...
cellrama said:
Ben,
Your initial posts refers to multiple devices and what works/doesn't work. I fully understood your post and was trying to provide you a little background information. I apologize if you took offense but when I ask what stock email client you're using on your notebook and the response received by you is you're unsure what I mean but you use "Apple Mail"... Well that's an email client!
The issue is when using the stock email application provided by Android, when you make changes through your Apple Mail program, this is not syncing to your device or to your Galaxy Gear for that matter. The simple answer is... With your stock Android application, as long as you have enabled IMAP, email should sync effortlessly. This has already been suggested by another member. If it is not working, you will need to check the settings in your Apple Mail client as well as your stock email application within Android. There is most likely something on the server which is blocking your sync. I would even log into fastmail.fm through your web browser and check the settings on their server to ensure everything is set correctly. As for the Galaxy Gear device... Well, I would not buy this as I've heard more bad than good and one review set focus on it's poor ability to sync email.
Hope this answers your question with more clarity.
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I think it's more to do with a settings issue server-side (in the settings on fastmail.fm) or through one of your clients which is used to access your email. You rely on a web-based email solution (fastmail.fm) which you access using one of many programs installed on an array of devices. The problem here is when using the stock Android application for mail, any modifications made to mail through your notebook running "Apple Mail" will not propagate across the server and update live on your device using the stock Android mail app. You already have stated every other application and program work but it's just the stock Android mail application.
This would lead me to believe the stock Android mail app does not support fastmail.fm. Many API's developers now use are custom and specific to targeted applications such as an API call to communication with GMail and their array of services. I agree you're issue pertains to the stock Android mail app. Is this an Android problem??? Just as much as it is a fastmail.fm problem. Fastmail.fm is not your most popular email program therefore, developers will not be flocking to purchase custom API's for implementation into their software.
You have answered your own question circuitously! I use the stock email app for GMail and Outlook without problem so the developer has implemented the proper API's to interact with IMAP on these specific servers but I will assume has opted against this for a less popular web-mail server.
Hope this helps!
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ben1000 said:
Actually, I think it's far more likely that Apple Mail, Fastmail, and K-9 all work perfectly, and that, as has been suggested by others many times on this forum and even on this thread, the stock Android app is flawed... This would make sense, since I'm sure Google would rather you use Gmail than some other provider.
Thanks for your time, but there are many assumptions in your email that are wrong... but let's just call it quits at this point. No need to reply, as I won't be checking.
I truly appreciate the time and detail you put into your post, and I'm sure you'll help many others.
Best,
Ben
PS: I've been using the Galaxy Gear for about a week, and find it a wonderful companion. I highly recommend it. Is it perfect? No, but I believe it's the best smartwatch out there currently, and it has exceeded my admittedly lowered expectations...
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There's no assumptions in my email which are wrong but hey... everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you read a bit closer, I agree with what you've stated! Your response mirrors mine in that the Android email app is flawed. Whether this is due to lack of API implementation or forced by other more dominant email providers, that's anyone's guess.
Glad you like your Galaxy Gear. I cannot comment but based on reviews, I would tend to shy away myself but that's great it works for you.
Thanks and have a good night!
ben1000 said:
Howdy...
Thanks, but it's IMAP. I assume that if it weren't, it wouldn't work perfectly with Apple Mail, WebMail, and K-9.
It seems no one really wants to admit that this is an Android problem... No worries, I appreciate the help, and will look elsewhere... I appreciate the time you took to reply...
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
Just want to clarify to make sure we didn't miscommunicate. I wasn't asking if Fastmail is IMAP...i know that it supports both IMAP & POP. My question was did you set it up as an IMAP account on your phone. When adding an email account via the stock email app on the Note 3, after you enter your email address & password and pressing the "manual setup" button you'll be asked if it is a POP account, IMAP account or Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync account. If your server supports IMAP and you set it up as an IMAP account on the phone, it should work. It's a universal protocol that is supported on both ends. Sorry if I misunderstood your response...just wanted to make sure I was clear.
Thanks,
Ed