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pushing gmail onto my phone.

prewarning: i'm a complete microsoft exchange newbie, although i have experience in win2003 management / active directory etc.
here's what i'm trying to do.
basically, push my gmail email onto my phone (running windows mobile 5). i don't want pop access, i want actual PUSH.
how i figure this would work:
- forward my email from gmail to my local win2003 machine, which has exchange 2003 running
- exchange in turn pushes the email onto my phone immediately
- i can reply on my phone and it looks like it came from my gmail address, not from my local domain (i.e. my exchange server address).
so far i'm ok with 1 and 2, all is working golden. BUT i can't reply on my phone - it sends the message fine but shows the from address as my exchange server address.
any idea how to fix this? basically would want to set up some sort of mail relay...
any help would be appreciated! would be glad to provide a few free accounts to people who can help!
cheers!

If you have Exchange there is a way to setup an alias to accomplish this. PM me if you would like and I can explain in a PM. Basically what it does is it tricks Exchange into thinking it's sending from another e-mail address but basically it just changes the Reply to field so people see it coming from your gmail instead of your exchange account.

Maybe you should try Push Effect ?

took a look at push effect. not quite what i'd like... i odn't want any more running crap on my phone, especially not some alerting service. i want pretty much seamless integration with my outlook on my phone. it can't be hard, i'd rather do it myself for free rather than shell out something or other for licenses or software.
i'm already using emoze (emoze.com) which is good, but adds a silly little signature at the end of emails with some ad. PLUS it has added software running on my pc and phone, which i don't care much for.

try www.port88.org not sure if it's still free. When i signed up it was... amazing services

yep have seen that site. they have a suggested donation of $50, and even then not sure if they let me set my own "from" address...

chamelion said:
yep have seen that site. they have a suggested donation of $50, and even then not sure if they let me set my own "from" address...
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They require a donation in order to use alias, but then again, most places will. If he is already running his own exchange server, then he can just use that. Check your PMs chamelion I sent you instructions.

got the pm thanks
i did actually did do just that a little while ago and it works great (except for sending myself an email).
i have a whole new issue though, i was tryign to implement certificate authentication and now everythings messed up... it just doesn't synch up any more
i'll figure it out, or just reinstall the whole damn thing!

FINALLY got everything working - the aliases and even the SSL authentication which was a pain in the ass. turns out to have been the smallest stupidest mistake i was making, as it usually is!
if anyone wants free push email like denial is offering, shoot me a PM, i can offer the same
cheers!

Why Google needs “Direct Push” for Google Apps

Direct Push with Google Apps?!?!?!
Hi everyone. I think I might have asked this question before but maybe something has developed in the last few months.
I am running my own IT consulting business and as I get more and more busy my calendar is becoming an ever more important tool. My dear wife went out and got me a good old-fashioned spiral bound day-timer but I have a sophisticated day-timer right here in my pocket in the form of my HTC Touch. As an IT consultant I think I should be using it rather then pulling out the pen and paper. Right now I am using the calendars in my Touch, Outlook, Google Apps and the calendar in the Exchange account I have with one of my customers. Too many calendars and all because I really want to use my Google Apps calendar and have it sync with my Touch.
I really want Google to develop “Direct Push” technology so that I can get my email, calendar and contacts all from my Google Apps account just like it was an Exchange Server. I am even considering switching my email back to an Exchange Server just so I can sync with my Touch. This way my wife could login and add stuff to my calendar and it will appear on my Touch. Right now I have my Email coming in from Google Apps via IMAP, my Calendar synching with Outlook (installed locally on my laptop without Exchange) and my Contacts syncing with my customer’s Exchange server. This is a pain and I want everything in one place that can be maintained/synced in real-time.
I will say this right now and keep in mind that as an IT consultant I like Microsoft’s products and install things like Windows 2003, SQL Server and Exchange on an almost daily basis. If Google develops “Direct Push” for Google Apps it will be an Exchange killer. The only, and I mean only reason I am thinking about switching my domain back to Exchange (I moved from Exchange to Google Apps about 1 year ago) is for the ability to sync everything (not just email) with my Touch.
On the other hand if Microsoft comes out with a version of Outlook/Exchange that dispenses with the whole “Inbox/Sent items/Delete” model and goes for the Google-style “conversation & archive” model along with the search capabilities I might fall back in love with Exchange.
The Fish

Oh and just in case anyone from Microsoft is listening, “threaded inbox” isn’t what I mean by “conversation style”. Come on Microsoft. Just admit that Google has actual built a better mousetrap and managed to improve on the age-old email model of “folders” and “sent items”. Go ahead and copy them… copy, copy copy! Oops sorry, I mean “embrace and extend, embrace and extend”

Something like that would be great!

matthew232 said:
Something like that would be great!
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And not to mention totally do-able. There is already an non-Exchange mail server out there called “KerioMail Server” that implements Microsoft’s Direct Push protocol. Check out this link http://www.kerio.com/kms_activesync.html
Microsoft’s Direct Push is entirely HTTP based. It shouldn’t be that difficult for Google to do.
The Fish.

I guess you have to wait for Google Android.

thefish123 said:
On the other hand if Microsoft comes out with a version of Outlook/Exchange that dispenses with the whole “Inbox/Sent items/Delete” model and goes for the Google-style “conversation & archive” model along with the search capabilities I might fall back in love with Exchange.
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The moment they do that (without giving an option) is when I would have to quit using Exchange. I **hate** Gmail's threading and forward those mails to another account that isn't threaded (and the fact that they don't let you turn it off).

I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but have you checked out any of the 3rd party sync options? GMobileSync is a free little program that allows bidirectional syncing for your calendar (not push though). GooSync offers a free service level that also gives you calendar syncing. If you upgrade to their payed version (I think it is something like $30-40 for a whole year) you get not only calendar sync, but contacts, tasks etc. Might be worth a look.

jeffreycentex said:
The moment they do that (without giving an option) is when I would have to quit using Exchange. I **hate** Gmail's threading and forward those mails to another account that isn't threaded (and the fact that they don't let you turn it off).
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Microsoft would never do it without making it an option. But I am surprised to hear you say that you head Gmail’s threading. Quite honestly you have got to be the FIRST person I have heard say that.
I have never (till now) talked to anyone who switched to Gmail who didn’t have anything but good to say about it. Most people I know who use Outlook or Outlook Express and who do ANY real volume of email spend at least an hour to two hours a day “organizing” their email. They have a whole list of sub-folders under their Inbox and then have almost the exact same set of sub-folders under their “Sent Items”. They spend time trying to decide how to file things or if they should file it in the first place or just delete it. Sometimes they delete and email and two of three days later the whole issue has ballooned into a big issue and they are filing the responses but no longer have their original email because they didn’t think it would become important.
Gmail lets me keep my Inbox clean while at the same time never worrying about filing or organizing or having trouble finding things back. I would probably hate Gmail if I was still trying to fit it into my narrow 20-year-old “I must use folders” paradigm of thinking (which I did when I first started using Gmail) but it was fun to give up on that and the new paradigm of “never file, never delete” is so superior.
I don’t really case WHERE my email is as long as I can find it back in a natural way. I think in years to come we are going to see the same thing happening on computers and to some extent we already are. The #1 reason most people hate Windows Vista is because of the way the new “Explorer” obscures the hierarchal folder model that everyone is used to from our Norton Commander days. It is really very Mac-like. Most Mac users couldn’t tell you where their pictures were in terms of a “directory” or a “folder” but they have less trouble finding them, or copying them to a USB drive, or attaching them to an email then most Windows users.
If we ever do see WinFS (Windows Future Storage) it is supposed to be a Microsoft SQL layer bolted on top of the file system and gives you database-style searchability with all kinds of meta data attached.
The thinking behind the Reiser file system is that any structure on top of the file system for storing data indicates that the file system isn’t doing it’s job. And I can kinda see the point.
The Fish

I agree, Gmail should definately come out with direct push technology
I currently use gmail with pocket outlook with imap.
It's annoying having it set to check my email in intervals.
I didn't even know what direct push was until today, until i saw a friend using his phone w/ his private exchange server...my first reaction was wow...i want that!!
I'm hoping android will implement features like direct push, among others.

surgex0 said:
I didn't even know what direct push was until today, until i saw a friend using his phone w/ his private exchange server...my first reaction was wow...i want that!!
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It’s not even so much that I want “push” email (although that would be cool). The biggest issue is that there is no way to sync my Calendar and my Contacts with Gmail. This means I either A) have to use the Calendar/Contacts on my Touch in their “stand alone” form without syncing to anything or B) have to sync them with something else.
I really like being able to use my web-based Gmail calendar (Google Apps) but I wish like crazy there was some way to get this on my Touch.
The Fish.
PS: when you sign-up for Google Apps it asks you what (if any) previous mail system you used. As an example it says in brackets “Microsoft Exchange”. This makes me think that Google Apps is positioning themselves to take the SMB email market away from Exchange. I think if they really want to do this they will make Google Apps look just like an Exchange Server to the millions of WM devices out there. Currently I am seriously considering moving my email back to Exchange when I get my own server online (in a few weeks).

Google's apps for WM are all in java aren't they?
I know the gmail one is, and it sucks big c---.
I'd rather use opera and gmail html mobile than use their ****e java client.

surgex0 said:
Google's apps for WM are all in java aren't they?
I know the gmail one is, and it sucks big c---.
I'd rather use opera and gmail html mobile than use their ****e java client.
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Googlemaps apparently has a native app now (altho I would rather use Livesearch), so no, they aren't all JAVA. I take it you visit the HTML site instead of using IMAP so that you can see the threading and other g-mail features?

If you want gmail to push, use SEVEN at
community.seven.com
john

Sync & Push
I use www.mobipush.com to push my gmail and it works instantaneously. Fantastic. This is free, perhaps only while they are in beta.
I also use www.oggsync.com for syncing my calendar. There is a free version, but I bought the software and daily sync about 11 calendars 2 months backwards and 2 years forwards. Hardly ever any issues. They are working on contact sync - have a public beta out now.

surgex0 said:
Google's apps for WM are all in java aren't they?
I know the gmail one is, and it sucks big c---.
I'd rather use opera and gmail html mobile than use their ****e java client.
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I don’t know if it’s really the Gmail client that sucks so much as that it just doesn’t run properly on the version of Java that comes on my Touch (the Bell Mobility Touch in Canada). I was pretty happy to have the Java Gmail client on my Razr back before I got my Touch.
That being said I keep hoping they will come out with a native Windows Mobile version like they did with Google Maps. But then again it seems kinda silly to come out with an email client for a device that already has a built-in integrated email client. The better solution would be to make the pre-exiting email, calendar and contacts features work properly (as in within their native capacity – meaning DirectPush) with their Gmail counterparts.
The Fish

mail2web changing to pay service 5/1

I just wanted to make sure everyone knows what's going on, I just received this e-mail from mail2web:
Dear mail2web LIVE Customer,
We have some very important changes that will affect your account that
we want to let you know about. We're very glad that you've found your
mail2web LIVE account useful. It has always been our intention to
provide high quality and affordable Exchange solutions, and we have done
our best to keep the mail2web LIVE service free over the years. However
due to our planned upgrade to Exchange 2007 and to changes in our
licensing agreements with Microsoft, there will be some changes to your
service.
If you no longer want to keep your account, do nothing and it will be
cancelled on May 1, 2009. If you want to keep your account, please read
on...
*** Choose Your New Plan ***
If you want to keep your account active, you will be required to log
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ad-free Outlook Web Access 2007. Please note that the ActiveSync and
BlackBerry services are not supported with mail2web LIVE Basic.
2. The new Exchange 2007 version of mail2web LIVE will be available for
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Personally, I rely on mail2web to push my work e-mail to my phone, and have no intention of paying $5/mo (unless the company wants to pay for it). I'm sure I'm not the only one using it for this purpose and wanted to make sure those who do are aware of this impending change.

thanks for the headsup! i am actually surprised that i haven't received that email myself... or maybe i just haven't checked hmm...
anyway, i too use mail2web for pushing my gmail onto my wm phone and have been happy with it for a good while now; shame that they're introducing a fee but then again i suppose 5$ a mo isn't really too much and i have no issues with commiting to that if that's the only option i have...
unless someone knows a decent free exchange solution that i could use instead? any ideas?

Again I have not yet received the email.
If it's purely email you are looking for then try Seven Beta, they pick up gmail quite nicely as well as the majority of other email accounts.
Think I may have to sign up to the basic package as i have started to use the mail2web address for many things.

jhw549 said:
I just wanted to make sure everyone knows what's going on, I just received this e-mail from mail2web:
Personally, I rely on mail2web to push my work e-mail to my phone, and have no intention of paying $5/mo (unless the company wants to pay for it). I'm sure I'm not the only one using it for this purpose and wanted to make sure those who do are aware of this impending change.
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you might want to look in to seven beta it gives the option to push your work email might have to install some stuff on your actual work system if you can but it works pretty well
www.community.seven.com along with giving you access to global contacts and also accessing your calendar i don't use those features but the email works and pushes fast i'm using it on a edge connection and get them within the same minute of them being sent on my phone using seven
mikebem said:
thanks for the headsup! i am actually surprised that i haven't received that email myself... or maybe i just haven't checked hmm...
anyway, i too use mail2web for pushing my gmail onto my wm phone and have been happy with it for a good while now; shame that they're introducing a fee but then again i suppose 5$ a mo isn't really too much and i have no issues with commiting to that if that's the only option i have...
unless someone knows a decent free exchange solution that i could use instead? any ideas?
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i just got the email today i had got a heads up on ppcgeeks but didn't think it was tru
i'm also interested in seeing if there is another activesync solution out there that's free and as function as mail2web if not i'll probably open up a new gmail account and use that just for voicemail emails from youmail, contacts and calendar events
deedee said:
Again I have not yet received the email.
If it's purely email you are looking for then try Seven Beta, they pick up gmail quite nicely as well as the majority of other email accounts.
Think I may have to sign up to the basic package as i have started to use the mail2web address for many things.
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you could probably make a gmail account and set it up to use your mail2web account using the alias feature

Keland44 said:
you could probably make a gmail account and set it up to use your mail2web account using the alias feature
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i already use Seven Beta to push gmail and a couple of others, it's the OTA calendar/contacts/tasks i like from mail2web.

deedee said:
i already use Seven Beta to push gmail and a couple of others, it's the OTA calendar/contacts/tasks i like from mail2web.
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yea same here it's easier to get appoints me through outlook and let contacts sync up wasn't there somebody on the boards that hard there own server? i think for like 5 bucks a year or something like that or like 25 for the whole year i remember somebody one had a server though

I received the email 15 days ago and I did the upgrade.
I'm now testing the 60-day free trial: everything works well and finally you view the mail in html
Even though I do not have intention to pay to read mail, and I hope that in these 2 months google implements its Sync with the email and I'llmove smoothly to that.

As i said above, try Seven Beta, it works for me for my non mail2web mail. They say it will do Google contacts and calendar as well but i have yet to try it.

I've also received this email and this troubles me cause I use Mail2web excessively to sync my contacts.
Obviously I"m using the free version cause Who Wants to pay for email ?
If there is no other alternative I"ll just have to setup my own Server.. this is really disappointing. I liked there services And them saying that this Services are not available free cause of Licensing is lame and not tru

Hosted Exchange

Has anyone managed to set up their N1 to work with a hosted exchange server? My corporate IT doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about unfortunately. We use USA.net to host, I have a proxy exchange server I have tried as well as the usa.net server that shows up in Outlook. I love this phone but if I can't get exchange working it has to go back. Any ideas or experience would be appreciated.

Should work fine. I use mail2web hosted exchange. You wont get your calendar but you'll get contacts and email. There are other options for getting the calendar working. Motocal.apk is one of them.

Should being the operative word here. Every configuration I have tried has been unsuccessful. I was hoping there was a super secret setting somewhere for hosts or proxies that I was missing.

I connect to exchange server 2003 with no issues. Make sure they have webmail enabled. Are exchange server is xxx-exc-01 and I use webmail.domainname.com to connect to the server via webmail.

I use touchdown from the market. The stock app doesn't support many of the security features corporations use in exchange. Touchdown is free and full featured for 5 days so you can see if it works for you. It does calendar and tasks too and works better than any of windows mobile phones.
If it works it costs $20 after the trial but it is worth it.

I use a hosted exchange also and have no problems. Are you sure you are putting the proper username in? For example mine is exchange/e123456789
Also, make sure you have their correct exchange server address. For example, 1and1's address is exchange.1and1.com

What is probably happening is that your Nexus One isn't an "accepted" handset... I work for a carrier, and they and they had to change the email security settings to include the Nexus One before it worked...
I used TouchDown during that period, and like it a lot! Very good app, can get it free if you take advantage of the repeat trial window issue. I am using the stock app instead of TouchDown, though, since I prefer it's simplicity.

Well, touchdown works with the same info that didn't connect on the default app. No push though, which is strange. Thanks for the heads up on this app, I'm not too fond of the interface but it is better than nothing.

asv said:
Well, touchdown works with the same info that didn't connect on the default app. No push though, which is strange. Thanks for the heads up on this app, I'm not too fond of the interface but it is better than nothing.
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You can get close to stock app interface by making a homescreen short cut straight to your email folder:
On deisred home screen... Menu:Add:Shortcut:Touchdown:Inbox(I think is what they called it, recently flashed a new rom and didn't re-install so can't say 100%).
It will be a homescreen short cut straight to the inbox like the stock app does.

[Q] Direct Push

I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.

mmurray21 said:
I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
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It does support exchange activesync. In fact it is THE only push email technology the phone supports (both Hotmail and Gmail use EAS).

thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.

mmurray21 said:
thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
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That means your Focus currently already supports push email from your Exchange server. What you need is to talk to you IT admin about how to configure it (you will need to connect to an external exchange server address that is accessible via internet, not your desktop Outlook) and if you are allowed to do so (some companies add additional permission policy to limit the access). A new phone doesn't solve you any thing. EAS is not a new technology. It's been here about 5 years since old Windows Mobile 5.0.

So what specifically do i need to request since the current setup works with WM 6.5, iphone, and android.

There is nothing special need to be done on Focus. Exchange Active Sync is the same as on WM. iPhone or Android. The only thing that WP7 lacks, from what I read, is email encryption. If your company requires email encryption policy, it will not work. But again, Android never really supports email encryption either. So, if you have Android working (not using 3rd party software like TouchDown), you should be fine.
What exactly is your problem with your Exchange Sync. Outlook Hotmail connector has nothing to do with it. It is only required if you want to sync your non-Exchange Outlook calendar and contacts to hotmail.

Actually, I have only tried it with WM 6.5 and iPhone. Email does require encryption. When I try to add the settings to the focus it just says it outlook account info is incorrect. I had heard 3rd hand that people were able to get android going so thanks for the heads up. I was about to order an atrix.
I guess iPhone 4 is my only real option...

I'm willing to bet you just have the settings incorrect and your focus will work perfectly.
I work for Microsoft and I've had WM5, WM6.5, all of the iphones, and now a Samsung Focus all connected to corporate restricted exchange.
Our corporate policies are very strong, and yet our phones work fine. I can't read an encrypted message on the phone (but no phone other than the old WM can do that), but as far as connecting and downloading mail I think WP7 does it best. The only feature I believe is currently missing is threaded view, which I would assume is coming at some point.
My WP7 phone is currently connected to two separate exchange servers (MS corp, and outlook.com, which is similar to hotmail). So it's all possible.
What is it you're trying to do, and what's not working? Hotmail should work 100% since I believe they've rolled out direct exchange support for all accounts.

Thanks for helping.... Email works fine with hotmail, yahoo, and gmail. Its only when I try my outlook exchange mail that I have any issues. I have tried all of the possible permutations for setup.
I am not the only one with this problem
answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-sync/does-windows-phone-7-sync-to-outlook/48ae2598-f773-4b4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2
pocketnow.com/windows-phone/how-to-sync-windows-phone-7-with-outlook
They both seem to point out the deficiency with the phone.
So you have ecncrypted corporate email and dont have a problem?

You've lost me a little bit. Which are you trying to sync to Outlook (the desktop application), or Exchange (the mail server system)?
If you're trying to sync to Outlook, then i think you're out of luck. But, if you're trying to sync to Exchange (which is what 90% of people will have Outlook sync to), then it should work. I read both of the articles you linked, and they refer to Outlook data syncing, not to exchange. At least from what I gathered.
The phone can sync any mails with exchange, but there are two limitations. Specific private encrypted mails can't currently be read on any phone I believe (I think WM6.5 was the last OS to support them), and the WP7 device doesn't support full OS and storage encryption. It is possible for an Exchange admin to require that setting, although it's not common. A future release should include device encryption.
So, if you have a requirement on the second, then it sounds like WP7 won't current work for you. But, if it's not device encryption that you're looking for, then it sounds like WP7 should work fine.

Thanks for your help. I am trying to synch with exchange. I'll keep trying to configure it. I've asked our IT guys for help, but they have never even seen a phone with 7.
When I setup the account, there is a setting for logs. Do you happen to know where those end up and how I might get to them?

I don't know where the logging goes, but perhaps the error message your getting can be helpful?
I ran across this page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...exchange/7ccd6098-f9b5-44c7-84c6-2fd9e6a097f9
Which appears to hit some of the issues you're facing, and might provide some validation to the settings you're using.

Turns out your hunches were right, after escalating the issue for a week, the IT team came back and said "ooops" we forgot to add you to the list.
I put in the settings and everything works great. Thanks for challanging my assumption.