My 8125 will play about the first four seconds of an MP3 from the memory card then the player (AudioManager and WMP) will lock up, sometimes I can close the app sometimes I have to soft reset. But play that SAME MP3 from the phones memory and it plays fine!!! This problem is the same for pictures on the storage card. I open up photo and video and it's supposed to load thumbnails, well it will load the first few thumbs then that app locks too but again, copy pictures to phone memory and no probs at all... I keep all my cabs and PIM backup on my memory card and after a flash it is no problem to reinstall those cabs...
Don't really want to buy new card, or is that even needed? Is there a way to reformat these miniSD cards? It is a REAL SanDisk 2GB, not a cheap one from ebay.
If this has already been talked about, just post a link please, don't be an ass...I tried to search!
If you have an SD card reader, reformatting is easy, just put the card in it, right click on the card and choose format. If you don't have a card reader, use wm5starage. Enable wm5storage on your phone, connect to activesync and your phone will show up on your computer just as it would if it were in a card reader and then right click on it and choose format.
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If you have an SD card reader, reformatting is easy, just put the card in it, right click on the card and choose format. If you don't have a card reader, use wm5starage. Enable wm5storage on your phone, connect to activesync and your phone will show up on your computer just as it would if it were in a card reader and then right click on it and choose format.
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So that's what WM5torage is for... I always wondered why it was included in all the ROM's I have...hmmm
I will try it and see if it fixes the problem. Thanks.
Actually wm5storage is for using your SD card like a usb flash storage device so enableing it allows your computer to see it as a drive. Make sure you enable it before you connect it to activesync though or I don't think it will work if I remember right.
So far it's working fine. Such a simple fix. Thanks for the help!
No problem, glad I could help.
Has anybody else had an issue with trying to get large files onto the microdrive?
By large, I'm talking on the order of over 1gb.
Using the default route, of course activesync gets into the mix and has to get its grubby little paws onto the file to see if it needs conversion. It doesn't. But I can start the copy process (from my computer hard disk) and it will never stop and there is no progress on the progress bar.
I've also tried using wm5storage but also had no luck.
At this point I may have to find a large miniSD card and just copy files directly to that using a card reader and then insert that into my x7501.
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Has anybody else had an issue with trying to get large files onto the microdrive?
By large, I'm talking on the order of over 1gb.
Using the default route, of course activesync gets into the mix and has to get its grubby little paws onto the file to see if it needs conversion. It doesn't. But I can start the copy process (from my computer hard disk) and it will never stop and there is no progress on the progress bar.
I've also tried using wm5storage but also had no luck.
At this point I may have to find a large miniSD card and just copy files directly to that using a card reader and then insert that into my x7501.
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I had copied 3.8 GB size files using wm5torage without problem. The only thing you have to be aware is that the latest wm5torage posted on modaco is buggy, and would drop out before you could finish copy. After testing it for a while, I went 2 version back, and it works everytime, perfectly. The drawback of this application is sometimes it is difficult to get it working, if you have other programs or plugins running. The way to overcome it is to do a soft reset then run wm5torage (old version only, remember). You must have activesync installed on your pc.
I had also tried card export II. However, this application is still a little strange, in that sometimes it wants you to reinstall it again and again. But once reinstalled, I could use it. The advantage of this application is that, once you have reinstalled it (although you have already installed it!), your pc need not have activesync, and you don't need to worry about the other programs or plugins.
Hope this helps.
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Has anybody else had an issue with trying to get large files onto the microdrive?
By large, I'm talking on the order of over 1gb.
Using the default route, of course activesync gets into the mix and has to get its grubby little paws onto the file to see if it needs conversion. It doesn't. But I can start the copy process (from my computer hard disk) and it will never stop and there is no progress on the progress bar.
I've also tried using wm5storage but also had no luck.
At this point I may have to find a large miniSD card and just copy files directly to that using a card reader and then insert that into my x7501.
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I do tranfer 2 or 3 700-750Mb avi files at the same time via AS. No problems at all. After each file, it pauses as if to cache, then starts loading/transferring to microdrive. Sometimes the pauses last up to a minute or more. I used to worry before. Now I just leave it, go do something else and its copying by the time I get back. it's not the same as 1 huge file but...........
I hope this helps.
I use Resco Exporer to map a drive from my desktop and pull files down over wifi. This seems to be more reliable than AS.
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I use Resco Exporer to map a drive from my desktop and pull files down over wifi. This seems to be more reliable than AS.
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I do this also but takes far too long to transfer anything big, I did that the other night transfering some albums to MD. what took an hour could have been done in 6 min with wmstorage.
For A500, is there any way to turn off the MTP mode and just get A500 to act as an USB drive (i.e. USB mass storage)?
For copying large files, Acer Sync's speed is ok, but I copy offline newspapers for viewing on A500, and that involves thousands of small files. MTP's speed for copying large number of small files is much slower than USB drive. For example, I can copy a whole newspaper to a USB thumbdrive in 3 minutes, while using MTP mode it takes 15 minutes.
I'm new with the Acer, and I don't have an answer to your question, but I wondered about using a thumb drive. Needs to be formatted to fat 32. Just use the thumb drive like you would the micro sd card. 4 gig thumb drives are pretty cheap.
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Woody, I think you misunderstood my question, my question is not about using a thumb drive on A500... I would like the A500 to behave like a usb thumb drive when plugged in the micro USB cable to a PC's USB port.
The other annoying thing I forgot to mention about Acer Sync is that it is single task when copying files. You can only copy one file at a time, you try to copy another file before the first one is finished and it'll tell you the file system is busy...
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Woody, I think you misunderstood my question, my question is not about using a thumb drive on A500... I would like the A500 to behave like a usb thumb drive when plugged in the micro USB cable to a PC's USB port.
The other annoying thing I forgot to mention about Acer Sync is that it is single task when copying files. You can only copy one file at a time, you try to copy another file before the first one is finished and it'll tell you the file system is busy...
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If you're running 3.2 when you plug your tab into your PC your tab should pop right up on your PCs screen giving you two drives to choose from. External or internal SD card.. Drag and drop. Never heard of anyone using Acer Sync to copy files before.?!?
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If you're running 3.2 when you plug your tab into your PC your tab should pop right up on your PCs screen giving you two drives to choose from. External or internal SD card.. Drag and drop. Never heard of anyone using Acer Sync to copy files before.?!?
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Are you using A500? I know other tabs are like that, which is the normal usb drive mode. A500 isnt like that, it'll recognise as a A500 tab in win7, not a drive, and copying files is via this special protocol, not like a usb drive.
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Are you using A500? I know other tabs are like that, which is the normal usb drive mode. A500 isnt like that, it'll recognise as a A500 tab in win7, not a drive, and copying files is via this special protocol, not like a usb drive.
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Ummmmm my signature clearly states I'm using an A500, and I've never used Acer Sync in my life. Drag and drop files just like a thumb drive. It comes up as an A500 in win 7. You double click on the A500, and it will show 2 drives (internal SDcard, and external SDcard). Double click on whichever drive you want to copy files to, and drag and drop them in, or use "copy and paste".
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Ummmmm my signature clearly states I'm using an A500, and I've never used Acer Sync in my life. Drag and drop files just like a thumb drive. It comes up as an A500 in win 7. You double click on the A500, and it will show 2 drives (internal SDcard, and external SDcard). Double click on whichever drive you want to copy files to, and drag and drop them in, or use "copy and paste".
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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You are correct, only one at a time when copy files unless you highlight two at same time, if i connect the usb drive directly into win7 pc it will automatically add to the loading file, as for the recognzie pc acer do say that on their support page...
there is a auto sync option in settings under accounts and sync..
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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Of course WinXP needs drivers, that's a given. It's a 10 yr old OS!
Your first post stated that you were using Acer Sync to copy your files.
I was simply wondering what kind of person would use Acer Sync to copy files when you can simply drag and drop them into your tab.
I tried what you asked. Started by dragging and dropping a movie to the tab, then tried d/d a few docs, and it indeed said busy.
When I chose them all at once and dragged and dropped them in, it copied fine, and much faster than a few of my thumb drives (three times the speed).
Question for you now. Why can't you simply choose all the files you want, drag and drop them into your tab and wait for it to copy the files, and be done with it? And second question is why would you ever choose Acer Sync to copy your files over?!?
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Question for you now. Why can't you simply choose all the files you want, drag and drop them into your tab and wait for it to copy the files, and be done with it? And second question is why would you ever choose Acer Sync to copy your files over?!?
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I did, in fact I chose a whole directory to copy to the A500. My problem is the speed, with thousands of small files, copying the files using this way is slow in comparison to thumbdrive, at least double the time.... in fact, I can copy the files to a thumbdrive and then plug that thumbdrive in the A500 to copy to it, and I can finish the copying action faster this way than plugging in the A500 directly to the PC.... so speed for copying large number of small files is my only main issue
The side issue is winxp, without the USB drive mode, I can't connect to my office PC as I dont have admin rights to install programs on that PC... and one last thing, I probably put the subject wrong, I didn't use the Acer Sync, I'm using that PTP kind of protocol as per default, I thought that was Acer Sync at first
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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PTP or MTP? PMPs and most media devices use MTP. They're generally designed this way so that you don't corrupt files or damage the files on the flash drive by disconnecting without first removing the drive in Windows. It shouldn't technically be that much slower than a thumb drive if you multi-select stuff. I generally sync my mp3 list when I'm going to travel in case I don't have wifi and xfer time seems similar if not quicker than copying them to a thumb drive.
I'll try to see if I can get some small files, maybe pictures and test those.
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It shouldn't technically be that much slower than a thumb drive if you multi-select stuff.
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I know, theoretically it shouldn't be that slow. Practically, I don't know what's wrong with Acer's implementation of it, it is dead slow copying large number of small files. To give you an idea, the offline newspaper I copied is about 1,000 files, mostly html about 1k big. The jpg files are about 100-300k big. It took me about 15-20 minutes to copy those files to my A500 via the usb cable. If I take my SDcard out and copy the files direct to the SDcard using a card reader, that can be done in 3 minutes.
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I know, theoretically it shouldn't be that slow. Practically, I don't know what's wrong with Acer's implementation of it, it is dead slow copying large number of small files. To give you an idea, the offline newspaper I copied is about 1,000 files, mostly html about 1k big. The jpg files are about 100-300k big. It took me about 15-20 minutes to copy those files to my A500 via the usb cable. If I take my SDcard out and copy the files direct to the SDcard using a card reader, that can be done in 3 minutes.
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I did another test using mp3s and the xfer was fast. Copied 150 files, 890MB total in 3m 35s using a class 4 card. That's around right.
Ironically, the same files took 6m 20s to the internal drive.
The only conclusion I can make at this point is that for some reason the bigger the file, the faster the transfer to the external SD. The smaller the file, the faster the transfer to the internal drive. This is all speculation.
Can you try copying them to the internal drive and let me know what you come up with? I myself am going to now try a comparison of 1 big movie file.
Update: I finished the other test. Puzzling. 1 MP4 file @ 2.26GB copied in ~3m to the external SD card.
In the same amount of time, just 1/3 of the file copied to the internal storage (I stopped that transfer, it was going to take ~9-10m).
I could only start to guess what's up. Maybe the A500 is actively scanning files being transferred to the internal storage and it ignores files smaller than a certain size or there's some other overhead going on and "noticing" media files, vs. any other kind.
The SD card is for the most part on the other hand, free and clear. I get the same results from my phone and its external SD, and that's connected like a Thumb Drive, as you put it.
Note that both the internal storage AND SD card are still accessible when the A500 is plugged in through USB, unlike most phones where the SD card is first unmounted.
What class microSD are you using? I think your best result might be copying directly to the tablet OR buying a faster microSD card.
I did the test to internal storage, it is even slower than SDcard.
I did another test - copying 400 html files of 1-4k, a total of only 1.6MB. The A500 took 3 minutes to do that, while my thumbdrive finished in 18 seconds. The A500 can only do less than 3 files per second, no matter how small the files are, that makes copying large number of small files a pain in the a$$.
I used a class 10 SDcard, and the result is about the same, the problem is with the interface, not the SDcard speed. You won't notice the slowness unless you are copying files that are really small, if you copy MP3 files that is 5MB big, you won't reach the limit of 3 files per second anyway.
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i assume people using win 7 DIDNT REALIZE that a500 use MTP, because a500 just shows up like a usb drive altough in reality they dont get any drive (they just dont care)
only people with mac and win xp will realize a500 use MTP ,
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For A500, is there any way to turn off the MTP mode and just get A500 to act as an USB drive (i.e. USB mass storage)?
For copying large files, Acer Sync's speed is ok, but I copy offline newspapers for viewing on A500, and that involves thousands of small files. MTP's speed for copying large number of small files is much slower than USB drive. For example, I can copy a whole newspaper to a USB thumbdrive in 3 minutes, while using MTP mode it takes 15 minutes.
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I know exactly what you're saying. it's pretty horrible that the a500 uses MTP for file transfer.
Some workarounds I found was to transfer files using FTP, which is much faster for several small files so even over the wireless it'll be faster.
Also some other techniques I found were to zip the many files on my computer, transfer the zip and unzip them on the acer.
Also the other obvious is to plug the microsd card to your computer with usb.
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I know exactly what you're saying. it's pretty horrible that the a500 uses MTP for file transfer.
Some workarounds I found was to transfer files using FTP, which is much faster for several small files so even over the wireless it'll be faster.
Also some other techniques I found were to zip the many files on my computer, transfer the zip and unzip them on the acer.
Also the other obvious is to plug the microsd card to your computer with usb.
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Yes, sadly I have to use other workarounds, there seems no way to use USB mass storage mode on USB. I now copy the files to a USB thumbdrive, and then insert that thumbdrive to A500 to move the files to A500. Even though that is twice the work, it is still much faster than using MTP transfer alone.
It's not the A500's fault it uses MTP. You can thank Google for that as they're the ones who built it in to Honeycomb and dropped USB Storage mode.
Hopefully it'll be back in ICS...
Alternatively, some file managers will allow you to send files via wifi to and from the tab. For me this is the prefered method (I use file expert, which is free). However, I noticed that occasionally large files like movies may fail, perhaps due to signal quality. I haven't had any problems with individual files up to 200-300 MB.
Hummmm not sure if this has been asked. Where are you putting the files at on your Iconia.If your putting them on the external SD card. Remember not all SD cards are treated equal.
Check the speed class of the card.and run a test to see how fast it can actually accept the files. Just because a card says class 10 does not mean its built well enough to handle that speed.
Internal storage can sometimes be slower then others as well.This would be considered a defective device.
I would surest to see if its faster or slower depending on where you store them.for me storing on my. Class 10. Ocl sd card..
I downloaded a 1.2GB file to my nexus 4. upon connecting it to windows to transfer it over I don't see the file.
I see the other files in the folder but its like the larger file is hidden. Is there some file size cap that prevents it from showing in windows?
Edit: turning on and off usb debugging has no effect, still only see various files except for larger files
anyone?
that happens alot, no file cap, i fix it by rebooting 2 or 3 times to get it shown, must be a issue with nexus media storage manager or some lousy process, i dont know why google wants to make it harder for us.
In Windows try to search a dot (.) in the folder. If you couldn't see it then the file is likely encrypted.
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that happens alot, no file cap, i fix it by rebooting 2 or 3 times to get it shown, must be a issue with nexus media storage manager or some lousy process, i dont know why google wants to make it harder for us.
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Cool a restart did the trick. Weird that files don't show up at first, guess it needs a fresh media scan to work.
hi guys, I am having a problem with my lg v2o Canadian variant, when I connect it to my win 10 laptop, i hear the chime and change connection setting to file transfer , on the laptop i navigate to the dcim/camera folder in internal storage and see 2 photos, the weird part is that on my phone using the file manager that same folder show over 39 gbs of photos. I have tried the different settings, such as charge only, photo transfer , midi etc but I still can only see two photos.
Last thing I tried was hooking up a different lg v20 to see if it was my laptop but with the other V20 I was able to see all the photos stored in the same folder on the phone and the laptop, this is very frustrating because my phone is saying my storage is running out, so I want to move my photo before I delete or do a factory rest.
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hi guys, I am having a problem with my lg v2o Canadian variant, when I connect it to my win 10 laptop, i hear the chime and change connection setting to file transfer , on the laptop i navigate to the dcim/camera folder in internal storage and see 2 photos, the weird part is that on my phone using the file manager that same folder show over 39 gbs of photos. I have tried the different settings, such as charge only, photo transfer , midi etc but I still can only see two photos.
Last thing I tried was hooking up a different lg v20 to see if it was my laptop but with the other V20 I was able to see all the photos stored in the same folder on the phone and the laptop, this is very frustrating because my phone is saying my storage is running out, so I want to move my photo before I delete or do a factory rest.
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Reboot both the pc and phone
When you plug the phone in choose MTP
Transfer and copy the DCIM folder to the pc without opening it.
39 gigs of photos will take a while to copy
Like over half an hour so be prepared to wait.
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Reboot both the pc and phone
When you plug the phone in choose MTP
Transfer and copy the DCIM folder to the pc without opening it.
39 gigs of photos will take a while to copy
Like over half an hour so be prepared to wait.
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i tried turning both the pc and phone off and restarting, but still not loading the photos on pc, i tried putting in a 200 gb sd card and copying the photos from the internal storage to the sd card, then deleting the photos o n the internal, then copying the photos back. This did change a bit cause now it is showing a few more then 10 photos. Still not showing all of them though.
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i tried turning both the pc and phone off and restarting, but still not loading the photos on pc, i tried putting in a 200 gb sd card and copying the photos from the internal storage to the sd card, then deleting the photos o n the internal, then copying the photos back. This did change a bit cause now it is showing a few more then 10 photos. Still not showing all of them though.
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if you copied the photos to an ext_sdcard and delete them from the phone you should be good.