Copying large files to the microdrive - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Has anybody else had an issue with trying to get large files onto the microdrive?
By large, I'm talking on the order of over 1gb.
Using the default route, of course activesync gets into the mix and has to get its grubby little paws onto the file to see if it needs conversion. It doesn't. But I can start the copy process (from my computer hard disk) and it will never stop and there is no progress on the progress bar.
I've also tried using wm5storage but also had no luck.
At this point I may have to find a large miniSD card and just copy files directly to that using a card reader and then insert that into my x7501.

jstimson said:
Has anybody else had an issue with trying to get large files onto the microdrive?
By large, I'm talking on the order of over 1gb.
Using the default route, of course activesync gets into the mix and has to get its grubby little paws onto the file to see if it needs conversion. It doesn't. But I can start the copy process (from my computer hard disk) and it will never stop and there is no progress on the progress bar.
I've also tried using wm5storage but also had no luck.
At this point I may have to find a large miniSD card and just copy files directly to that using a card reader and then insert that into my x7501.
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I had copied 3.8 GB size files using wm5torage without problem. The only thing you have to be aware is that the latest wm5torage posted on modaco is buggy, and would drop out before you could finish copy. After testing it for a while, I went 2 version back, and it works everytime, perfectly. The drawback of this application is sometimes it is difficult to get it working, if you have other programs or plugins running. The way to overcome it is to do a soft reset then run wm5torage (old version only, remember). You must have activesync installed on your pc.
I had also tried card export II. However, this application is still a little strange, in that sometimes it wants you to reinstall it again and again. But once reinstalled, I could use it. The advantage of this application is that, once you have reinstalled it (although you have already installed it!), your pc need not have activesync, and you don't need to worry about the other programs or plugins.
Hope this helps.

jstimson said:
Has anybody else had an issue with trying to get large files onto the microdrive?
By large, I'm talking on the order of over 1gb.
Using the default route, of course activesync gets into the mix and has to get its grubby little paws onto the file to see if it needs conversion. It doesn't. But I can start the copy process (from my computer hard disk) and it will never stop and there is no progress on the progress bar.
I've also tried using wm5storage but also had no luck.
At this point I may have to find a large miniSD card and just copy files directly to that using a card reader and then insert that into my x7501.
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I do tranfer 2 or 3 700-750Mb avi files at the same time via AS. No problems at all. After each file, it pauses as if to cache, then starts loading/transferring to microdrive. Sometimes the pauses last up to a minute or more. I used to worry before. Now I just leave it, go do something else and its copying by the time I get back. it's not the same as 1 huge file but...........
I hope this helps.

I use Resco Exporer to map a drive from my desktop and pull files down over wifi. This seems to be more reliable than AS.

hokie36 said:
I use Resco Exporer to map a drive from my desktop and pull files down over wifi. This seems to be more reliable than AS.
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I do this also but takes far too long to transfer anything big, I did that the other night transfering some albums to MD. what took an hour could have been done in 6 min with wmstorage.

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storage card nuked wihtout warning

i just got my storage card nuked and i think it was by "save attachments on storage card" .. its cleanswept except for some attachment dir and a WMDRM dir.. anyone experienced this before?
Im curious if there is a way to save my storage card like file recovery for windows!?!? I've had smartphone for 2 years and never experienced such (nor used the mail portion) .. its really a drag if this is normal wm5 behavior.
anyways two questions:
- is a way to generally clone a qtek9100 with all regs and storage
- is there a way to recover lost files if nothing else is written to car? (so called quick formats)
sardaukar said:
- is a way to generally clone a qtek9100 with all regs and storage
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Backup apps:
SPB Backup - www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Sunnysoft Backup Manager - www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
Sprite Backup - www.spritesoftware.com/pocketpc.php
Or, otherwise, copy all files over, and export the registry using Tascal Registry Editor or so. Restoring would likely be iffy, though.. e.g. overwriting the Pocket Outlook database and such - if it can be done.
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- is there a way to recover lost files if nothing else is written to card? (so called quick formats)
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Yes - there's dedicated software for this. I got one from Sandisk that came with their 1GB Ultra III compactflash card that I've got in my camera next to a 2GB memorystick.
http://www.lc-tech.com/software/rprowindetail.html
as for the nuking, I assume now it was something todo with windows mediea player and device syncronization which hadnt fully initiated ..
anyways, when you tlak of recovery what do you mean, as the link you post leads to pc software.
u put sd card in camera and mount as usb and run pc software to recover?
sprite backup seems to be very nice and feature rich.
I just had the exact same thing happen to me...was just left with the attachments directory.
The good news is that the SD card shows that there is 250MB used so i know the files are there...i just cant see them. I'm trying that SD program referenced in the last post to see if i can at least see the files.
Unfortunately, all my backups are on the SD card itself. I hadnt copied them to my HD.
wow, this is nuts - there's some serious bug lurking around!
Update on this.
I was able to recover the files with some data recovery tools. The one in this thread is useless - its meant for media files only.
I still wonder why this happened. Either way, I'm switching back Outlook attachments to main memory for a bit and see what happens.
d'oh
Well, let us know which data recovery tool you used - might come in handy for others
yup same thing happened to me... and same way, attachments on storage card
space was still missing but the files were too
didnt bother recovering though as i had backups luckily
The same happened to me twice! The first time I thought it was due to FAT FS, so i reformated it with FAT32, but it happened again.
I do have my attachements at SD, as well as I save pictures from camera to it.
BTW, the same thing happened once with my wife's iPaq 2490 (attachement at SD).
As for fixing: just use standard MS Windows checkdsk (or use Check now from drive options) if you have a card reader. It saves all files to FOUND directory (but, unfortunately, it renames it to strange names, so you'll have to find out what is what)
If this happens to you, FinalData Enterprise and EasyRecovery Pro are known to recover files very well. They will find all files and filenames. They wont restore the top level folder names but if you dont have many, you can change them yourself. More important to me were the lower level filenames and the integrity of those files.
Most of the other trial recovery programs i used couldnt do what these two products could. They typically just showed a bunch of .chk files or else tried to recover media files only.
I still want to know how this happened and if there's a way to replicate the problem. There's some nasty Outlook bug lurking around that needs to be fixed!
same thing happened to me. just realised that i have 300 meg os missing disk space that i thought had gone for ever.
can anyone recommend a freeware tool ?
Wait, my new 2gb card died 2 days ago! The Wizard won't even find it, and my PC finds it, but all the stuff on it is missing except for a couple of directories and it won't let me format it. It has to go back to China now. I'm so pissed off.
Anyone know a card recovery app?
I know the ones i mentioned earlier should work.
Someone said chkdsk may work...try that although i worry that if it recovers cross linked files (most of them are), it'll dump a bunch of useless chk files on the card.
i tried checkdisk and it didn't seem to retrieve any files. grrrrrrrrr.
Well maybe it s a bug which occurs on march 14.... because that same thing occured to my sd yesterday while I was using tt5 on the road... ;(
sardaukar said:
as for the nuking,.....bla bla.....
sprite backup seems to be very nice and feature rich.
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I'd choose SPB Backup. According to my knowledge the WM5 compatible version of Sprite Backup does not have the self extracting functionallity yet. (weird because that among other features made Sprite Backup stand tall above all other backup/clone solutions).
Hope they will include this self extracting feature soon.
2 GIG Mini SD Speed
Just got mine from Singapore yesterday. I did not format it as it came already formatted. I have noticed that playing video divx / mpg1's are very slow versus internal memory. I did the reg edits for cache size but found no real changes to media playback. Anyone out there playing with media playback on a Cingular 8125?
mike freegan said:
Wait, my new 2gb card died 2 days ago! The Wizard won't even find it, and my PC finds it, but all the stuff on it is missing except for a couple of directories and it won't let me format it. It has to go back to China now. I'm so pissed off.
Anyone know a card recovery app?
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From experiance with this same issue on a 1gb, the card eventually starts having block failures. Fortunatly the place I bought it replaced it with another. Whatever nukes it, perminatly damaged mine. Hope in your case it didn't damage it.
I'm wondering if this is related to the reboot issue some of us are experiancing... and if it has something to do with pocket outlook or pocket windows media player 10.
Grey
Block failures are a hardware fault.
The only way you could induce one with software would be to rewrite the same location more than ~1m times, which would cause it to fail - flash has a limited lifetime, although the limit is very high.
So let me get this straight:
REGARDLESS of the BRAND of the miniSD card, the Wizard HAVE an ISSUE whereby, if MEssaging Attachement is saved to the card, the device CAN RANDOMLY nuke the card?
I haave the same issue with my ATP miniSD card (and they're considered one of the most reliable one), but instead of nuking it, it just doesn't show the file OR...worst... rename the card to "Storage CArd 2".
Depends on what people are running into.
If you're getting a corrupted card BUT you can reformat it, then it may be something with the storage card attachment thing. (I personally run with this turned on and have NOT had it happen)
If, however, the card CANNOT be reformatted - that is, its TOAST - then its NOT a software problem. The card has physically failed. Since the 2GB cards are quite new, this is entirely possible.
One other possibility - if you have a card that won't reformat first try writing a few kilobytes of zeros to it using psdwrite. If you can THEN reformat it, then the card was scrambled - it did not die.
Using "r2sd" to dump ROM images to the card has been known to interfere with reformatting to full capacity due to the internal data patterns that show up in certain places with certain ROMs. Writing a block of zeros to the front of the card will fix this, as it will wipe the data that is being misinterpreted.

Can't make WMP10 see my 2GB card when adding to my library

It seems that when I switched from my 512MB micro SD card to my 2GB sandisk microSD card, windows media player could no longer see the storage card when adding to the library. When i select menu-->Library and select library drop down from the top menu, I only see my device and not the storage card. Is there something that i can do to resolve this? Is there away to reinstall WMP10 client on my 8525 without reloading my entire phone? I am howerver able to select Menu-->Library-->menu-->Open File and can see the storage card but who wants to do this each time i want to listen to music.
Thanks for any assistance.
Have you tried updating the library?
I have the exact same problem. I can see the card in file explorer and through the "open file..." menu in WMP, but it doesn't show up in the library. Adding the files from it to the library hangs not on searching the card (it finds the files on it) but it hangs on actually adding them to the library.
My card is a SanDisk Ultra II 2 GB. I thought it might have something to do with the 2GB threshold that was the origin of many problems in earlier (desktop) windows versions.
I am planning to try and test it with some other mediaplayer. Anyone has a suggestion which player to try?
hey guys, I too have experienced this exact issue and it just started about a week ago. I did not make/add changes.
For months, I have been able to see the library from WM10 and one day I realized the same symptoms as previously described. I'm not sure what the fix is.
Yes, I m having the same problem, just only recently, i didnt install and upgrade anything. Out of a sudden, I just can't see the 2GB Card anymore. Planning to perform hard reset on this weekend.
Delete the MSMetadata folder
Had the same problem. Here is how I fixed it.
On your storage card delete the MSMETADATA folder. Then update your Library again in WMP.
That fixed it for me.
Every now and then this also happens to me... Last 2 times I resorted to a hard reset...
But deleting the MSMETADATA folder did the trick for me.
Thanks!
Jörg
Missing data card in WMP 10
It's a known issue with HTC Hermes. HTC Europe told me it would be resolved with the next software upgrade. Well I am still waiting for that to happen.(Since Sept. 2006)
The workabout above is the only way to restore your data card in the Media Player, but you will find it "drops" out every so often. I am so used to this routine already that I can do it in my sleep.
This problem only seemed to occur on the earlier models. - Before serial no. 631...........
So I wonder about the software side as I have upgraded to the latest ROM and the problem persists!
Regards
Thanks guys. I removed the MSMETADATA and it resolved my problem. I am now able see the storage card in the library and have WMP search for new files in the library without failing.
Dang...Wish i had seen this thread before...I did thehard reset
On the up side i got rid of a lot of stuff i wasnt using
What do you know it worked for me too. Thank you big time.
Thanks for this thread
Was getting really confused why my card had dissappeared in Media Player. Deleting the folder did the trick. Thanks!
see this one its wm11 problem no htc
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/28840468/wmp11-and-windows-mobile.aspx
i cant find the MSMETADATA folder on my storage card? This issue is driving me nuts.
njmarchetti said:
Had the same problem. Here is how I fixed it.
On your storage card delete the MSMETADATA folder. Then update your Library again in WMP.
That fixed it for me.
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Yup worked for me as well - but I had to conenct from a PC and take a couple of goes at "refreshing" the root folder before I saw the offending folder to delete.....
seeing and removing MSMETADATA folder on ppc
jimi said:
i cant find the MSMETADATA folder on my storage card? This issue is driving me nuts.
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while you are in explorer on your pocket pc you have to go into "menu" on the bottom right of your screen and then click on (activate or check), "show all files" that way you will see the hidden files on your sd card an you can delete it
Solution: Use TCPMP.
Seriously, the ONLY thing I use WMP for anymore is WMA/WMV streaming and playback. As far as I can tell, WMP can't even do streaming MP3 playback; it chokes on every URL I give it saying the data is corrupted or it's a format it doesn't support.
MSMETADATA Deleting
First off thank you very f#@@king mucho!! This had been driving me nuts. I went into the file explore>storage card> menu>tools>options>view tab> uncheck hidden files>ok>the MSMETADATA folder should appear> delete that should fix your problem.
YEAH!
Searching here first really does help.
Problem still exists on Hermes WM6 official, and the workaround still works.

Corrupted Folders on Micro SD card.....

Hello all!
Yesterday, while trying to load a couple files and install a program, my Hermes kept locking up. Found out my Card was almost full. (Lexar XD 2Gb)
Turns out somehow during that process, it correpted two folders on my Card, the Programs Files and the Live Search Folders. I have no access to those folders (can open them, but cannot delete files) and programs using them like AvantGo will not work.
I tried deleting both on the Device itself, then on the PC (2 pcs, work and home) through activesync, and finally putting the card into a Card Reader and trying to access and delete from my PC. Nothing worked.
I then tried to Fdisk to find errors, but Fdisk would report it couldn't do it after 10 secs. Tried the reboot and check also, no go.
So it looks like a few folders are corrupted. Anyone know of any (preferably free) software that can fix this issue. Otherwise I'll trun to Frys and get a new card, but it has a lot of stuff on it and I'd rather not have to do that at this time.
I should mention, most of the folders work fine, all my music, pictures, file back up etc work ok. Its just those two upper lvl folders and anything inside them. Wierd!
Thanks!
Do not know any software which can fix the issues you described.
But you mentioned that you are going to buy another disk.
I don't believe that's necessary.
You should be able to format the disk. Usually formatting the disk should clean all the badly recorded parts on the disk.
You might also want to invest in a good back up software in the future for when similar occasions happen again.
Well, a quick google shows all sorts of software out there, most of it more for saving stuff (mostly image related) but others that are supposed to fix corrupted sectors supposedly, looking for peeps in here that have run into same problem.
Been planning on a new card at some point, 4-8gb would be nice, just wasn't planning on going that way quite yet.
And I back things up, but you cant back up installed programs, you have to re-install them. Like I said, all the Data and stuff is fine.....
A piece of software called DelinvFile might help. 15 day trial available.

Can't copy movie to microsd card. Help please....

I've got an .avi that I'm trying to copy to my microsd. The avi is 678MB and the card is 2GB with 1.4GB empty.
When I try to copy the file it gets to two bars and then restarts, and keeps on restarting without anything getting copied.
Any ideas?
Magicacaca said:
I've got an .avi that I'm trying to copy to my microsd. The avi is 678MB and the card is 2GB with 1.4GB empty.
When I try to copy the file it gets to two bars and then restarts, and keeps on restarting without anything getting copied.
Any ideas?
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Are you connecting to the PC using ActiveSync? If so, connect as a USB drive. File transfer is much faster and more stable with that connection type.
what restarts? the computer? the transfer progress?active sync?
do you have a card reader on your pc? if so try put the card in that.
Genius, thanks
That worked a treat - obvious really
Active Sync does that .... it will eventually copy just slowly and the progress bar doesnt reflect the progress... go figure.
But better off using USB Disk Drive as it copies quicker.
GG
GodsGift said:
Active Sync does that .... it will eventually copy just slowly and the progress bar doesnt reflect the progress... go figure.
But better off using USB Disk Drive as it copies quicker.
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It's easier when you know how

Any way to turn off MTP mode for USB?

For A500, is there any way to turn off the MTP mode and just get A500 to act as an USB drive (i.e. USB mass storage)?
For copying large files, Acer Sync's speed is ok, but I copy offline newspapers for viewing on A500, and that involves thousands of small files. MTP's speed for copying large number of small files is much slower than USB drive. For example, I can copy a whole newspaper to a USB thumbdrive in 3 minutes, while using MTP mode it takes 15 minutes.
I'm new with the Acer, and I don't have an answer to your question, but I wondered about using a thumb drive. Needs to be formatted to fat 32. Just use the thumb drive like you would the micro sd card. 4 gig thumb drives are pretty cheap.
Woody
Woody, I think you misunderstood my question, my question is not about using a thumb drive on A500... I would like the A500 to behave like a usb thumb drive when plugged in the micro USB cable to a PC's USB port.
The other annoying thing I forgot to mention about Acer Sync is that it is single task when copying files. You can only copy one file at a time, you try to copy another file before the first one is finished and it'll tell you the file system is busy...
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Woody, I think you misunderstood my question, my question is not about using a thumb drive on A500... I would like the A500 to behave like a usb thumb drive when plugged in the micro USB cable to a PC's USB port.
The other annoying thing I forgot to mention about Acer Sync is that it is single task when copying files. You can only copy one file at a time, you try to copy another file before the first one is finished and it'll tell you the file system is busy...
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If you're running 3.2 when you plug your tab into your PC your tab should pop right up on your PCs screen giving you two drives to choose from. External or internal SD card.. Drag and drop. Never heard of anyone using Acer Sync to copy files before.?!?
kjy2010 said:
If you're running 3.2 when you plug your tab into your PC your tab should pop right up on your PCs screen giving you two drives to choose from. External or internal SD card.. Drag and drop. Never heard of anyone using Acer Sync to copy files before.?!?
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Are you using A500? I know other tabs are like that, which is the normal usb drive mode. A500 isnt like that, it'll recognise as a A500 tab in win7, not a drive, and copying files is via this special protocol, not like a usb drive.
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Are you using A500? I know other tabs are like that, which is the normal usb drive mode. A500 isnt like that, it'll recognise as a A500 tab in win7, not a drive, and copying files is via this special protocol, not like a usb drive.
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Ummmmm my signature clearly states I'm using an A500, and I've never used Acer Sync in my life. Drag and drop files just like a thumb drive. It comes up as an A500 in win 7. You double click on the A500, and it will show 2 drives (internal SDcard, and external SDcard). Double click on whichever drive you want to copy files to, and drag and drop them in, or use "copy and paste".
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Ummmmm my signature clearly states I'm using an A500, and I've never used Acer Sync in my life. Drag and drop files just like a thumb drive. It comes up as an A500 in win 7. You double click on the A500, and it will show 2 drives (internal SDcard, and external SDcard). Double click on whichever drive you want to copy files to, and drag and drop them in, or use "copy and paste".
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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You are correct, only one at a time when copy files unless you highlight two at same time, if i connect the usb drive directly into win7 pc it will automatically add to the loading file, as for the recognzie pc acer do say that on their support page...
there is a auto sync option in settings under accounts and sync..
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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Of course WinXP needs drivers, that's a given. It's a 10 yr old OS!
Your first post stated that you were using Acer Sync to copy your files.
I was simply wondering what kind of person would use Acer Sync to copy files when you can simply drag and drop them into your tab.
I tried what you asked. Started by dragging and dropping a movie to the tab, then tried d/d a few docs, and it indeed said busy.
When I chose them all at once and dragged and dropped them in, it copied fine, and much faster than a few of my thumb drives (three times the speed).
Question for you now. Why can't you simply choose all the files you want, drag and drop them into your tab and wait for it to copy the files, and be done with it? And second question is why would you ever choose Acer Sync to copy your files over?!?
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Question for you now. Why can't you simply choose all the files you want, drag and drop them into your tab and wait for it to copy the files, and be done with it? And second question is why would you ever choose Acer Sync to copy your files over?!?
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I did, in fact I chose a whole directory to copy to the A500. My problem is the speed, with thousands of small files, copying the files using this way is slow in comparison to thumbdrive, at least double the time.... in fact, I can copy the files to a thumbdrive and then plug that thumbdrive in the A500 to copy to it, and I can finish the copying action faster this way than plugging in the A500 directly to the PC.... so speed for copying large number of small files is my only main issue
The side issue is winxp, without the USB drive mode, I can't connect to my office PC as I dont have admin rights to install programs on that PC... and one last thing, I probably put the subject wrong, I didn't use the Acer Sync, I'm using that PTP kind of protocol as per default, I thought that was Acer Sync at first
ray1234 said:
That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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PTP or MTP? PMPs and most media devices use MTP. They're generally designed this way so that you don't corrupt files or damage the files on the flash drive by disconnecting without first removing the drive in Windows. It shouldn't technically be that much slower than a thumb drive if you multi-select stuff. I generally sync my mp3 list when I'm going to travel in case I don't have wifi and xfer time seems similar if not quicker than copying them to a thumb drive.
I'll try to see if I can get some small files, maybe pictures and test those.
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It shouldn't technically be that much slower than a thumb drive if you multi-select stuff.
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I know, theoretically it shouldn't be that slow. Practically, I don't know what's wrong with Acer's implementation of it, it is dead slow copying large number of small files. To give you an idea, the offline newspaper I copied is about 1,000 files, mostly html about 1k big. The jpg files are about 100-300k big. It took me about 15-20 minutes to copy those files to my A500 via the usb cable. If I take my SDcard out and copy the files direct to the SDcard using a card reader, that can be done in 3 minutes.
ray1234 said:
I know, theoretically it shouldn't be that slow. Practically, I don't know what's wrong with Acer's implementation of it, it is dead slow copying large number of small files. To give you an idea, the offline newspaper I copied is about 1,000 files, mostly html about 1k big. The jpg files are about 100-300k big. It took me about 15-20 minutes to copy those files to my A500 via the usb cable. If I take my SDcard out and copy the files direct to the SDcard using a card reader, that can be done in 3 minutes.
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I did another test using mp3s and the xfer was fast. Copied 150 files, 890MB total in 3m 35s using a class 4 card. That's around right.
Ironically, the same files took 6m 20s to the internal drive.
The only conclusion I can make at this point is that for some reason the bigger the file, the faster the transfer to the external SD. The smaller the file, the faster the transfer to the internal drive. This is all speculation.
Can you try copying them to the internal drive and let me know what you come up with? I myself am going to now try a comparison of 1 big movie file.
Update: I finished the other test. Puzzling. 1 MP4 file @ 2.26GB copied in ~3m to the external SD card.
In the same amount of time, just 1/3 of the file copied to the internal storage (I stopped that transfer, it was going to take ~9-10m).
I could only start to guess what's up. Maybe the A500 is actively scanning files being transferred to the internal storage and it ignores files smaller than a certain size or there's some other overhead going on and "noticing" media files, vs. any other kind.
The SD card is for the most part on the other hand, free and clear. I get the same results from my phone and its external SD, and that's connected like a Thumb Drive, as you put it.
Note that both the internal storage AND SD card are still accessible when the A500 is plugged in through USB, unlike most phones where the SD card is first unmounted.
What class microSD are you using? I think your best result might be copying directly to the tablet OR buying a faster microSD card.
I did the test to internal storage, it is even slower than SDcard.
I did another test - copying 400 html files of 1-4k, a total of only 1.6MB. The A500 took 3 minutes to do that, while my thumbdrive finished in 18 seconds. The A500 can only do less than 3 files per second, no matter how small the files are, that makes copying large number of small files a pain in the a$$.
I used a class 10 SDcard, and the result is about the same, the problem is with the interface, not the SDcard speed. You won't notice the slowness unless you are copying files that are really small, if you copy MP3 files that is 5MB big, you won't reach the limit of 3 files per second anyway.
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i assume people using win 7 DIDNT REALIZE that a500 use MTP, because a500 just shows up like a usb drive altough in reality they dont get any drive (they just dont care)
only people with mac and win xp will realize a500 use MTP ,
ray1234 said:
For A500, is there any way to turn off the MTP mode and just get A500 to act as an USB drive (i.e. USB mass storage)?
For copying large files, Acer Sync's speed is ok, but I copy offline newspapers for viewing on A500, and that involves thousands of small files. MTP's speed for copying large number of small files is much slower than USB drive. For example, I can copy a whole newspaper to a USB thumbdrive in 3 minutes, while using MTP mode it takes 15 minutes.
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I know exactly what you're saying. it's pretty horrible that the a500 uses MTP for file transfer.
Some workarounds I found was to transfer files using FTP, which is much faster for several small files so even over the wireless it'll be faster.
Also some other techniques I found were to zip the many files on my computer, transfer the zip and unzip them on the acer.
Also the other obvious is to plug the microsd card to your computer with usb.
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I know exactly what you're saying. it's pretty horrible that the a500 uses MTP for file transfer.
Some workarounds I found was to transfer files using FTP, which is much faster for several small files so even over the wireless it'll be faster.
Also some other techniques I found were to zip the many files on my computer, transfer the zip and unzip them on the acer.
Also the other obvious is to plug the microsd card to your computer with usb.
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Yes, sadly I have to use other workarounds, there seems no way to use USB mass storage mode on USB. I now copy the files to a USB thumbdrive, and then insert that thumbdrive to A500 to move the files to A500. Even though that is twice the work, it is still much faster than using MTP transfer alone.
It's not the A500's fault it uses MTP. You can thank Google for that as they're the ones who built it in to Honeycomb and dropped USB Storage mode.
Hopefully it'll be back in ICS...
Alternatively, some file managers will allow you to send files via wifi to and from the tab. For me this is the prefered method (I use file expert, which is free). However, I noticed that occasionally large files like movies may fail, perhaps due to signal quality. I haven't had any problems with individual files up to 200-300 MB.
Hummmm not sure if this has been asked. Where are you putting the files at on your Iconia.If your putting them on the external SD card. Remember not all SD cards are treated equal.
Check the speed class of the card.and run a test to see how fast it can actually accept the files. Just because a card says class 10 does not mean its built well enough to handle that speed.
Internal storage can sometimes be slower then others as well.This would be considered a defective device.
I would surest to see if its faster or slower depending on where you store them.for me storing on my. Class 10. Ocl sd card..

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