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Hope this isn't real, kinda ugly
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/03/sony-ericsson-x2-spotted/
lol if that is the x2, i guess my x1 will wait til the x5 is released to get a baby sister
Fugly. I'd rather get a TP2, than get that.
I hope it's fake :/
Thats fugly )
Haha I was going to post this right now. Thumbs up for Engadget lurkers .
It is kinda ugly. The TP2 is 10 times better looking, BUT wait for the hardware specs first hehe....
NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY !!! that's a big disaster... if that's real I'd be really disappointed the only good features I saw are the arrows on the KB
People, that X2 has a Windows-Key. I think SE was not gonna use WM on the X2.
wazaaappp said:
NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY !!! that's a big disaster... if that's real I'd be really disappointed the only good features I saw are the arrows on the KB
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Oh please, how can you guys judge from the bad picture.
It has actually potential to look really good.
Nice that the rumour shows still the hardware keys and dpad.
(IMO TouchPro 2 is really bad design, but it may be just me...)
Firefall! said:
People, that X2 has a Windows-Key. I think SE was not gonna use WM on the X2.
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I read it'd be Android
doministry said:
Oh please, how can you guys judge from the bad picture.
It has actually potential to look really good.
Nice that the rumour shows still the hardware keys and dpad.
(IMO TouchPro 2 is really bad design, but it may be just me...)
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disappointed !
wazaaappp said:
NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY !!! that's a big disaster... if that's real I'd be really disappointed the only good features I saw are the arrows on the KB
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If it looks like your attached thumbnails in practice, my interest is up there.
I'm also curious as to the specs, snapdragon (or better yet tegra), accelerometer maybe??
Firefall! said:
People, that X2 has a Windows-Key. I think SE was not gonna use WM on the X2.
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The X2 WILL use Windows Mobile. Trust me.
Calvin H said:
If it looks like your attached thumbnails in practice, my interest is up there.
I'm also curious as to the specs, snapdragon (or better yet tegra), accelerometer maybe??
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the look is not too bad... but what I was waiting for was a bigger screen I mean we got res 800x480 and a little screen, that's a big mess All what I wanted is that and certainly it wasn't made.
that keyboard looks disgusting
anybody can confirm that this is the final device and not just a prototype
i like the bigger screen and more usable keyboard but the design seems like a step backword
fatso485 said:
anybody can confirm that this is the final device and not just a prototype
i like the bigger screen and more usable keyboard but the design seems like a step backword
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I bet it's a proto - if real.
The keyboard will look good, for sure. SE will not release a bad looking device.
As for OS - who said it will be Android? SE just confirmed they use it,
but I also heard Xnext will be WM... Hopefully!
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I bet it's a proto - if real.
The keyboard will look good, for sure. SE will not release a bad looking device.
As for OS - who said it will be Android? SE just confirmed they use it,
but I also heard Xnext will be WM... Hopefully!
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we already know the x2 is a wm6.5 device as that information was leaked a while back when a companies ceo told some website that they lost the deal to use there software on the x2 to some google software.
ps. if u save the pic and then zoom in, u will notice that the bottom right seems to have a bit missing compared to the bottom right and on the far left, which would point to a mock up or early prototype cg pic
Why go back in design? Looks like a toy compared to X1. Damn fugly.
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Why go back in design? Looks like a toy compared to X1. Damn fugly.
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even if this is a current pic of the x2. there is still probally 6 months till release and a lot can change in the design. the specs are more important at this point
Look at the pic below, the bits i pointed out in earler post. may be just how they did the pic but looks like a prototype cg pic/mock up.
ps. although this may be a mock-up / prototype cg pic it way still be the current design of the x2.
maybe itje could tell us something?
doministry said:
Oh please, how can you guys judge from the bad picture.
It has actually potential to look really good.
Nice that the rumour shows still the hardware keys and dpad.
(IMO TouchPro 2 is really bad design, but it may be just me...)
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It is not just you. TP2 design sucks big time. Acctually I will make a thread about it.......
Ganondolf said:
Look at the pic below, the bits i pointed out in earler post. may be just how they did the pic but looks like a prototype cg pic/mock up.
ps. although this may be a mock-up / prototype cg pic it way still be the current design of the x2.
maybe itje could tell us something?
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Dude, read the article. They guy who leaked the photo obscured the background. He doesn't want to get fired. That is why you have those missing parts. It's a bad photoshop.
"The response of Windows Mobile 6.5 as presented by XPERIA X2 is not that good as we expected from the latest high-end smartphone of the company. There are noticeable and annoying lags at times, not to mention that scrolling in the new Windows "main menu" causes some visible screen re-rendering stutter as you move up and down. It seems the graphics subsytem needs tweaking or plainly put - more processing power. Perhaps that's understandable as only now did we find out that the XPERIA X2 runs on the same CPU as the X1." -GSMArena
and that's where the big FAIL comes in...
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and that's where the big FAIL comes in...
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I know but ... some people are trying to hide that fact and say that the phone is perfect with that processor.. There is absolutely no logic to that, and that is pissing me off.
I really anticipated a lot from this phone, the specs are SO disappointing.
These are upgrades that should have been in the first release =/
look... its still beta software...
hopefully sony can get it optimized... but i'm with you guys i dont think it'll ever be as fluid as other OS's.
oh well at least its WIMO... so there's a high possibility that the software will be ported back to x1
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oh well at least its WIMO... so there's a high possibility that the software will be ported back to x1
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that's true, and that would be a good thing. I'm only into the X2 because of its camera, and slightly larger screen.
If it ever drops to $400 or lower, I'd consider it.
Guys,
I wonder if Sony is going to pay Qualcomm for the video drivers this time around. Because if they're still sticking with the same POS chip and not pay for the driver....then it makes me wonder why Sony Ericsson still even exists. It's almost like a big slap in the face to anyone who stays loyal to SE. They think their consumer base will -always- buy whatever they throw at them, even if it's ****ty products.
Cheers.
someone in se camp is in trouble
Guess what - it's the good old 7200A that is the CPU of X2. And from what I read in gsmarena - there are plenty of lags around the UI and the video playback speed is far from superb (comparing to some other new devices). All in all, it's the old X1 with new look and camera. I don't think that's worth even considering as X1 upgrade. It's a strange thing SE is doing with this X2.
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Guess what - it's the good old 7200A that is the CPU of X2. And from what I read in gsmarena - there are plenty of lags around the UI and the video playback speed is far from superb (comparing to some other new devices). All in all, it's the old X1 with new look and camera. I don't think that's worth even considering as X1 upgrade. It's a strange thing SE is doing with this X2.
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They are learning from apple. The X4 update would have xenon flash
x2 has x1 cpu
Loved my X1 especially that nice screen and hires.....but after using the HTC magic, I can't go back, the speed and responsiveness overcomes my love of my X1.
I even flashed the X1 with the EnergyROM with 6.5 etc in an attempt to want to keep it, but just find it lagging, espically if you are doing something, then phone rings and your try to answer.....ARGH, it takes 3 seconds to finally answer.......
Sadly my X1 goes for sale next week, my Magic, flashed with the Hero ROM is snappy, and does just about everything I want it to (I miss Tom Tom )
Maybe the X5 will do it for Sony....
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"The response of Windows Mobile 6.5 as presented by XPERIA X2 is not that good as we expected from the latest high-end smartphone of the company. There are noticeable and annoying lags at times, not to mention that scrolling in the new Windows "main menu" causes some visible screen re-rendering stutter as you move up and down. It seems the graphics subsytem needs tweaking or plainly put - more processing power. Perhaps that's understandable as only now did we find out that the XPERIA X2 runs on the same CPU as the X1." -GSMArena
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I love my X1 and X2 is not much different, but I am hopeful new software will work fine on my X1.
I have read a lot of posts on how people feel about X1 and I think I am the only person who likes the panel interface . Anyway if the new panels are nice and slick and I can use them on my X1 I will be happy they made an X2, but for the camera and bigger screen alone I cannot pay for a new phone.
I haven't seen anything convincing to make me upgrade, and I am not sure about all the love that Android and iPhone products get, but for now I am sticking with WinMo. I got a lot of software I know and like. I suppose a slicker, full-featured OS would convince me, but iPhone is not full-feature, and I don't know about current Android software availability.
If there were an Android device with 850/1900Mhz HSDPA and a qwerty keyboard maybe I'd give it a shot, but until then X1 is king in my book.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro&showhide=true&D1=SonyEricsson X1i XPERIA&D2=SonyEricsson X2 XPERIA Vulcan
not too impressive :S
p.s. to get to the page copy paste the link as the forum breaks the url
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BuddyLee said:
They are learning from apple. The X4 update would have xenon flash
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Fracking loled. Sadly, it is true.
Back to OP.
How can some people defend this mockery by SE is beyond me.
"It is still an early version", "The soft will be optimized", etc.
Use your brains folks. More power hungry hardware and software CANNOT run better on the same old parts. It is simple logic that even a 3 year old can understand...
I get that your expectations were for more and that you are disappointed. I felt the same way after TP2 came out. This is no reason to deny the obvious truth and be blind fanboys though.
This is just a laughable attempt of SE to earn lots of cash while providing the smallest number of upgrades. In other words, they want to spend less and gain huge ammounts. I am sorry, but people are not that stupid and those kind of tricks won't work.
This is actually worse than the TP2 and iPhail upgrades lol.
I think that the X1 with better processor and everything else the same would have been a far better "upgrade" than this joke. Keep your useless 8mpx camera and accelerometer and give us the 800mhz - 1ghz cpu. You fail SE. You fail more than Apple and that is something I thought no one could achieve......
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Fracking loled. Sadly, it is true.
Back to OP.
How can some people defend this mockery by SE is beyond me.
"It is still an early version", "The soft will be optimized", etc.
Use your brains folks. More power hungry hardware and software CANNOT run better on the same old parts. It is simple logic that even a 3 year old can understand...
I get that your expectations were for more and that you are disappointed. I felt the same way after TP2 came out. This is no reason to deny the obvious truth and be blind fanboys though.
This is just a laughable attempt of SE to earn lots of cash while providing the smallest number of upgrades. In other words, they want to spend less and gain huge ammounts. I am sorry, but people are not that stupid and those kind of tricks won't work.
This is actually worse than the TP2 and iPhail upgrades lol.
I think that the X1 with better processor and everything else the same would have been a far better "upgrade" than this joke. Keep your useless 8mpx camera and accelerometer and give us the 800mhz - 1ghz cpu. You fail SE. You fail more than Apple and that is something I thought no one could achieve......
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What a bull****.
It's absolutely more new stuff than Apple or TP2. Why do you make
these whining false statements.
I mean we would all welcome more and more, but why this whining.
None of you touched this even once.
So you also USE YOUR BRAIN.
Or this is too emotional for you....
Seems like orelsi wants to be the forum's conscience and bring us poor, misguided fanboys back to hard reality...
frive said:
Seems like orelsi wants to be the forum's conscience and bring us poor, misguided fanboys back to hard reality...
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Well he has many many valid points.
But other's have conscience as well.
orelsi and doministry both have really good points, but constantly arguing over it won't change anything.
the truth is:
Its a sexy new phone, of course there are some features that appeal and some that don't, but that doesn't change that its NEW or that its a SUCCESSOR.
Similar to the iphone 3GS, minor upgrades, but still popular around the world.
So we can just conclude it with a "Hey, that phone looks like my Xperia X1! I think..."
doministry said:
What a bull****.
Or this is too emotional for you....
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Better look at your own posts. Those two sentences apply to them perfectly.
frive said:
Seems like orelsi wants to be the forum's conscience and bring us poor, misguided fanboys back to hard reality...
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Don't project your own desires on me.
I don't see you making any constructive comments anyway.
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So we can just conclude it with a "Hey, that phone looks like my Xperia X1! I think..."
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I can live with that .
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Better look at your own posts. Those two sentences apply to them perfectly.
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Sure I do look.
leaked touch leo (replacement to the touchHD)
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7674
yeah i know it does not have a keyboard and it (imo) does not look that great, but the specs are right.
with this and others (toshiba, lg, samsung etc) all coming out, why cant SE see that there x2 is so far behind?(hw specs wise)
great specs but too big and ugly
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great specs but too big and ugly
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i agree, not sure why there trying to copy toshiba's phone design
Come on HTC, stop experimenting!!! Touch Pro2 is almost perfect, it just lacks a bit of multimedia for the younger like me. So add 3.5 mm jack, good 5+ MP camera with flash, 1Ghz processor and call it Pro3, and me and many others will buy it!
3,6 inch display is perfect, anything else is too big!
Add 3.5 mm jack, 5+ MP camera with flash, 1Ghz processor!!! Is it so hard???
Please someone give me the coordinates of the chief of HTC, so that I can tell this to him, or where can I post this for HTC to seeeeee?
i dont get it ... has somebody a big pocket enough to carry that thing ??????
Cant those big companies understand that it's all about portability the limit between a netbook and a POCKET pc???
THIS IS IT!
Give me a slide-out keyboard with it (Leo Pro anyone?) and a D-Pad (no D-Pad = no go) and I'll buy it at any price. Sweet, that would fit perfectly in my hand/pocket. It has a room for a keyboard - look how thin it is!
HAHA SE, you got told (or shown) how it's done. X2 should have had that hardware, damn.
I didn't have time to read it, so is there a 3.5mm or not?
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i agree, not sure why there trying to copy toshiba's phone design
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I find the size perfect (from the pic and having toyed with that Toshiba garbage).
It is kinda ugly, but with those specs I would buy it even if it said "iPhone" on it LOL . It isn't fat enough, NEEDS MORE KEYBOARD!
The screen size is nice,
but the looks and controls look like a fart.
As well as 90% of HTC design. Don't they have any design department?
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It is kinda ugly, but with those specs I would buy it even if it said "iPhone" on it LOL ...
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Be honest! You wouldn't ...
topic: I like the phone, but not sure how big it is... Mite be too big, yes.
But I'm more into Android phones now. Soon there will be more choices
if you decide for android...
Orelsi, why not the K01?
If those specs were on x2 would be definitely the best phone in the world
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Be honest! You wouldn't ...
Orelsi, why not the K01?
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OK, I admit, I wouldn't....
I'll reserve judgement on the K01 until I hear some reviews and get it in my hands. Attaching a keyboard won't do the trick, unless they change something about the device itself.
Oh yeah:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-hd2-inches-closer-to-reality-hitting-europe-in-october-for/
Another one:
engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-leos-touchflo-3d-build-demoed-on-video/
I hate TF3D... and capacitive screen? MASSIVE FAIL!
I don't want it anymore .
So I was browsing youtube..just going from video to video.
Found something very interesting, something that allows multitasking on the iphone (well more or less.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCC9mTvI4&NR=1
It's proswitcher, it mocks webOS's card multitasking. Imagine this on the android..
I mean if someone can develop that for the iphone which is pretty limited to begin with.. why the hell not for android you know?
What do you guys think?
It is a good idea! I've used that before on my touch, I think it would be cooler with a "expose" type of layout or like "leap".
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It is a good idea! I've used that before on my touch, I think it would be cooler with a "expose" type of layout or like "leap".
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Care to elaborate? I dont quite understand EXPOSE, or LEAP. @[email protected];
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6cxaVRs60w&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafJvpOv7Qw&feature=player_embedded
I'm not sure about the Nexus S
I may have to get this and Google did say gaming is really a untapped market.
I love the design! looks really sleek
Looks like a redesigned psp go...
Look at the scrolling in the first video at 1:14. It looks like this is the kinetic scrolling we've been wating for in gingerbread! Looks awesome!
Wouldnt touch it knowing sony ericsson it will have 2.1 on it and wont get updated ever been burnt by SE with the X10 i will never ever buy one of thier phones again
nice idea, hope they pull it off properly this time
of course, with sonys track record, i would only get it if devs can root it. but, that applies to any phone.
did ne1 notice @ 0:32 in the first vid , the guy tilts the phone yet the phone does not go into landscape mode untill the game pad is pulled out
how are we supposed to type with this thing ??
i mean neither does it have landscsape view for bigger keyboard nor does it have a physical keyboard !
This does not look like Gingerbread to me. The notification bar has a different gradient than what I saw on the leaked shots of the Nexus S, and the icons look more like standard froyo icons with some green added to them.
Plus, since when does the about screen list the OS codename? Mine says 2.2.1, not Froyo. It seems like Sony didn't have 2.3 yet, or maybe they have a really early build.
Wow, people are these forums are quick to jump to conclusions, and pretending what they make up is fact. Almost as if they try so very hard to be disappointed.
In this case, did you know that you can turn off the automatic screen rotation? What a shock!
lol gotta love the pre-complainign here.
Anyways beautiful looking phone. The slide out portion is hideous though. Thats a ton of wasted space. Im assuming there will be a QWERTY board on there.
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Wouldnt touch it knowing sony ericsson it will have 2.1 on it and wont get updated ever been burnt by SE with the X10 i will never ever buy one of thier phones again
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It's all but confirmed to have 2.3 and it wouldn't be fast enough to do what they want without having at least 2.2.
Did they promise an update when you bought the phone? No? Then don't expect one.
The phone will come with 2.3.
If Sony Erricson is going to keep letting these leaks out, they might want to un-ugly their phone.