Hope this isn't real, kinda ugly
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/03/sony-ericsson-x2-spotted/
lol if that is the x2, i guess my x1 will wait til the x5 is released to get a baby sister
Fugly. I'd rather get a TP2, than get that.
I hope it's fake :/
Thats fugly )
Haha I was going to post this right now. Thumbs up for Engadget lurkers .
It is kinda ugly. The TP2 is 10 times better looking, BUT wait for the hardware specs first hehe....
NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY !!! that's a big disaster... if that's real I'd be really disappointed the only good features I saw are the arrows on the KB
People, that X2 has a Windows-Key. I think SE was not gonna use WM on the X2.
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NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY !!! that's a big disaster... if that's real I'd be really disappointed the only good features I saw are the arrows on the KB
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Oh please, how can you guys judge from the bad picture.
It has actually potential to look really good.
Nice that the rumour shows still the hardware keys and dpad.
(IMO TouchPro 2 is really bad design, but it may be just me...)
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People, that X2 has a Windows-Key. I think SE was not gonna use WM on the X2.
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I read it'd be Android
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Oh please, how can you guys judge from the bad picture.
It has actually potential to look really good.
Nice that the rumour shows still the hardware keys and dpad.
(IMO TouchPro 2 is really bad design, but it may be just me...)
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disappointed !
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NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY !!! that's a big disaster... if that's real I'd be really disappointed the only good features I saw are the arrows on the KB
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If it looks like your attached thumbnails in practice, my interest is up there.
I'm also curious as to the specs, snapdragon (or better yet tegra), accelerometer maybe??
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People, that X2 has a Windows-Key. I think SE was not gonna use WM on the X2.
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The X2 WILL use Windows Mobile. Trust me.
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If it looks like your attached thumbnails in practice, my interest is up there.
I'm also curious as to the specs, snapdragon (or better yet tegra), accelerometer maybe??
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the look is not too bad... but what I was waiting for was a bigger screen I mean we got res 800x480 and a little screen, that's a big mess All what I wanted is that and certainly it wasn't made.
that keyboard looks disgusting
anybody can confirm that this is the final device and not just a prototype
i like the bigger screen and more usable keyboard but the design seems like a step backword
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anybody can confirm that this is the final device and not just a prototype
i like the bigger screen and more usable keyboard but the design seems like a step backword
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I bet it's a proto - if real.
The keyboard will look good, for sure. SE will not release a bad looking device.
As for OS - who said it will be Android? SE just confirmed they use it,
but I also heard Xnext will be WM... Hopefully!
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I bet it's a proto - if real.
The keyboard will look good, for sure. SE will not release a bad looking device.
As for OS - who said it will be Android? SE just confirmed they use it,
but I also heard Xnext will be WM... Hopefully!
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we already know the x2 is a wm6.5 device as that information was leaked a while back when a companies ceo told some website that they lost the deal to use there software on the x2 to some google software.
ps. if u save the pic and then zoom in, u will notice that the bottom right seems to have a bit missing compared to the bottom right and on the far left, which would point to a mock up or early prototype cg pic
Why go back in design? Looks like a toy compared to X1. Damn fugly.
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Why go back in design? Looks like a toy compared to X1. Damn fugly.
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even if this is a current pic of the x2. there is still probally 6 months till release and a lot can change in the design. the specs are more important at this point
Look at the pic below, the bits i pointed out in earler post. may be just how they did the pic but looks like a prototype cg pic/mock up.
ps. although this may be a mock-up / prototype cg pic it way still be the current design of the x2.
maybe itje could tell us something?
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Oh please, how can you guys judge from the bad picture.
It has actually potential to look really good.
Nice that the rumour shows still the hardware keys and dpad.
(IMO TouchPro 2 is really bad design, but it may be just me...)
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It is not just you. TP2 design sucks big time. Acctually I will make a thread about it.......
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Look at the pic below, the bits i pointed out in earler post. may be just how they did the pic but looks like a prototype cg pic/mock up.
ps. although this may be a mock-up / prototype cg pic it way still be the current design of the x2.
maybe itje could tell us something?
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Dude, read the article. They guy who leaked the photo obscured the background. He doesn't want to get fired. That is why you have those missing parts. It's a bad photoshop.
Related
http://www.liv3.com/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/834
I don't know if anyone else have this video posted but take a look.
It is actually a good review - touchflo seems to have come on leaps and bounds which is still not evident on the diamond (inspite of the fact it has the same processor - more mem perhaps?).
The woman narrating did a decent job except she did make me laugh a few times unintentionally (she got a little too excited about the size of the screen )... Looking at the size of the device though - it is actually pretty big! The Samsung looks to be the optimal size for a smartphone... The HTC screen is superb though
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http://www.liv3.com/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/834
I don't know if anyone else have this video posted but take a look.
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Yeah, it`s kinda of old, here 3 some newer videos: http://www.xatakamovil.com/2008/10/04-htc-ensena-un-poco-mas-de-su-touch-hd
Site is in spanish but just click on the videos
Nice post! I really like the matte backside... Looks good and gives me one less side of the phone I need to clean all the time
I find this video pretty good:
HTC Touch HD
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I find this video pretty good:
HTC Touch HD
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Its an awesome video for sure....
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I find this video pretty good:
HTC Touch HD
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WOW! Very nice video indeed!
My Touch Pro´s TF3D is _almost_ as snappy as that one. Not much difference, hardly noticeable...
another nice video
this is the www.pda.pl video of the HD in HD!!!
...almost like having one...
http://www.vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435
Gawd damn it!
That looks good, that is very smooth and very nicely proportioned!
lets answer this battery question and get the phone on the shelves to be sold.
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It is actually a good review - touchflo seems to have come on leaps and bounds which is still not evident on the diamond (inspite of the fact it has the same processor - more mem perhaps?).
The woman narrating did a decent job except she did make me laugh a few times unintentionally (she got a little too excited about the size of the screen )... Looking at the size of the device though - it is actually pretty big! The Samsung looks to be the optimal size for a smartphone... The HTC screen is superb though
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The french accent.
I'm french and I prefer the original version with the man who hold the touch HD.
the one from vimeo is mind blowing... seems like htc finally decided to make their devices useful and finger-friendly.. touchflo works as it should ever had to.. simply can't wait!
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The french accent.
I'm french and I prefer the original version with the man who hold the touch HD.
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I'm English and a woman speaking French (or English with a French accent) does wonders for me!
After watching the latest video and esp. seeing TouchFlo performance and that it is not that much bigger than the Diamond I am edging towards the Blackstone over the Xperia X1 (probably be out before the Sony anyway).
Can anyone remember how long the Diamond took to reach the carriers after the official launch? Seeing as the Blackstone is launching on Nov 6th and Orange are more than likely to stock it I am just trying to figure out a timeline....
fuzzmo said:
I'm English and a woman speaking French (or English with a French accent) does wonders for me!
After watching the latest video and esp. seeing TouchFlo performance and that it is not that much bigger than the Diamond I am edging towards the Blackstone over the Xperia X1 (probably be out before the Sony anyway).
Can anyone remember how long the Diamond took to reach the carriers after the official launch? Seeing as the Blackstone is launching on Nov 6th and Orange are more than likely to stock it I am just trying to figure out a timeline....
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Problem i see with the X1 is it has a higher res display on virtually the same size screen as the Touch Pro making text even smaller. Now the Touch HD has a much larger screen and higher res thant he X1.
I have one on pre-order and no Windows Mobile device has excited me like this one, it looks fantastic, latest is it should be hitting early November, cannot wait for you guys to start making it work so much better as usual.
Chris
Does this device have a real GPS? Not just aGPS?
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Does this device have a real GPS? Not just aGPS?
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Are you kidding??
A-GPS is GPS!!! Its the normal GPS just enhanced by the ability to download sattelite position information over the net, which makes it much faster then the normal GPS. A stands for assisted. So it's calles A-GPS. Theres no reason you would want the "old" GPS.
Raziel1 is spot on AGPS has all the features of GPS with the additional feature of a quick fix using sat positions that can be downloaded OTA so is superior to GPS. The Touch HD will have AGPS
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Theres no reason you would want the "old" GPS.
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It's fine as long as you can turn the a- off.
Here in Australia the cost of the net assistance is way beyond the value of it, so I only want the "old" GPS.
Kangburra said:
It's fine as long as you can turn the a- off.
Here in Australia the cost of the net assistance is way beyond the value of it, so I only want the "old" GPS.
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yes you can turn it off, and gps will still be working fine, don't worry.
I know you'll hate me.. so hate away!
i bought 2 x X1's A Touch Hd... and an Omnia too...
Trying to get one of the Korean Omnia's at moment too...
So far.. got the TF3d on the x1's.. and managed just to get the Sony Panel kinda running on the Touch HD too.. I will tidy it up.. so i can choose what i want on what.
Well at least you will be able to say which device you like the most and why
They are all yours? How many money did you spend?
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I know you'll hate me.. so hate away!
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Hold on. You're not through yet: You still need to buy a Asus Galaxy 7, HTC Quartz, Nokia 5800, and while you're at it, a Meizu MiniOne
boba23 said:
So what? My BMW M3 Convertible should arrive in 3 weeks. I'll send you some pics as soon as it's here ;-)
boba
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May I be the first to say: who gives a flying f^&@?
Buying and bragging about a car to make up for lack of something?
harvsingh, how do you intend to get the new Omnia from Korea? Seen it online?
harvsingh said:
I know you'll hate me.. so hate away!
i bought 2 x X1's A Touch Hd... and an Omnia too...
Trying to get one of the Korean Omnia's at moment too...
So far.. got the TF3d on the x1's.. and managed just to get the Sony Panel kinda running on the Touch HD too.. I will tidy it up.. so i can choose what i want on what.
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how is the call loudness and clarity of the HD?
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how is the call loudness and clarity of the HD?
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Good.
I returned an Omnia because it was too small (easy to drop), too slow, and it had lots of crackling noise during calls.
No such problems on the HD.
Easy guys...
I did spend alot of lolly.. all sim free.. and nearing the 2k mark..
I do have more money than sense... but i got peed off with all the.. coming soon.. nearly.. we are going to stock it.. and no-one could actually answer some really straight questions..
Does it support Line 1 and Line 2
How quick is GPS lock
How usable in the hand is it.
What is lacking...
so on.. so forth
So i bought them ..and i'll pick and keep the best.. and offload the others i don't want
I initially thought.. 2 x1's.. one for me.. one for mrs
then she liked Omnia.. so.. thats that
then the HD... larger screen... blah blah
(i've found the Touch HD is just thin... but.. it lacks a DPAD.. and the size of fonts and menus as default are pretty much for the blind! there seems no point at general use to have all those pixels.. and set it up to use your big stump/club of a finger.)
May aswell just get a 6500 super big stupid thing,, and set the font up.
The X1 is a good phone. easily pees over the Touch Pro i had.
trumps it in every way.. which is really silly considering they could have tweaked it.. re-shaped (like Touch diamond is on T-mobile) and sold it as a Touch HD Pro. job done
I've got Touch Flo 3d on the X1.. and they run sweet!
i've managed to wedge the Sony Panels onto the HD.. but it totally runs first run .. panel view.. jiggling around panels... fish .. google... spb... x1.... sony panel...... but not after a reboot.... needs alot more work to make it solid.
i asked for help... thinking everyone would love to have the X1 front screen running on the HD... but not one person is assiting me.. so i will do it as i can
omnia from Korea.. i/collegue may have a trip due in the next few weeks.. so may just walk in.. and buy one.. and bring it back
Personally...
The X1.. i think takes the cake.. over the HD... but i will say.. i'd be very tempted with the korean omnia.
Touch HD spec... but in a samsung solid case.. and a camera that is better than the turd on the HD. I have managed to get the Sony Xperia cam app working on the HD also... bit better.. but pic is still not brilliant..and don't forget.. no camera
enough rant.
yes.. calls are clear on the x1's and hd...
prefer the shape/hold of the x1 tho
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Easy guys...
Does it support Line 1 and Line 2
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dunno.
How quick is GPS lock
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In my testing so far it seems to be fast enough. See other threads.
How usable in the hand is it.
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The HD is very usable. The Omnia is for a child's hands, is too slippery, and is easily dropped.
What is lacking...
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HD is lacking a good camera, but I don't buy phones for their cameras.
so on.. so forth
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Maybe you didn't ask it the right way. I'm just guessing
So i bought them ..and i'll pick and keep the best.. and offload the others i don't want
I initially thought.. 2 x1's.. one for me.. one for mrs
then she liked Omnia.. so.. thats that
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Yes, it's good for smaller hands.
then the HD... larger screen... blah blah
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Don't dismiss that too easily. Bigger screen means everything to some of us, even more than GPS, camera, 3G, etc.
(i've found the Touch HD is just thin... but.. it lacks a DPAD.. and the size of fonts and menus as default are pretty much for the blind! there seems no point at general use to have all those pixels.. and set it up to use your big stump/club of a finger.)
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A D-PAD just takes up valuable screen real estate for me. I have no use for a D-PAD. I suppose if you're trying to play shooters that would be a problem
The font sizes are customizable, and should never factor into whether you are going to buy a smaller or larger screen phone.
A stylus is essential for maximum productivity, instead of big stumps. Luckily, the HD stylus doesn't require prying it out with your fingernails to remove it.
May aswell just get a 6500 super big stupid thing,, and set the font up.
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No touch screen.
The X1 is a good phone. easily pees over the Touch Pro i had.
trumps it in every way.. which is really silly considering they could have tweaked it.. re-shaped (like Touch diamond is on T-mobile) and sold it as a Touch HD Pro. job done
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X1 is too small a screen. Needless keyboard. Us stylus writers don't care for that misappropriation
I've got Touch Flo 3d on the X1.. and they run sweet!
i've managed to wedge the Sony Panels onto the HD.. but it totally runs first run .. panel view.. jiggling around panels... fish .. google... spb... x1.... sony panel...... but not after a reboot.... needs alot more work to make it solid.
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I'm a minimalist: I disable TouchFlo, and use Start + Magic Button. No fancy icons or "panels". Today is filled with just a few essential items, such as Mail, Communicator, Calendar, connectivity, and time.
i asked for help... thinking everyone would love to have the X1 front screen running on the HD... but not one person is assiting me.. so i will do it as i can
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I don't know enough about the X1 Today screen, so I don't know whether I'd like it or not. When you have a CAB ready, let us know.
omnia from Korea.. i/collegue may have a trip due in the next few weeks.. so may just walk in.. and buy one.. and bring it back
Personally...
The X1.. i think takes the cake.. over the HD... but i will say.. i'd be very tempted with the korean omnia.
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A minimum screen size of 3.5"is a requirement for me. Small screens strain eyes and make blunt fingers seem even blunter. Low-res but large screens prevent web pages and emails from displaying well.
The HD is the first WinMo GSM phone in 1.5 years to have a 3.5" screen and VGA or higher resolution, without being too thick or large to fit in a small pocket. This is because it uses the space wisely, instead of cramming D-Pads and keyboards onto it.
Touch HD spec... but in a samsung solid case
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Hold on, the X1 does not have HD spec.
HD: 3.8" screen, X1: 3.0" screen
HD: .5" thick, X1: .7" thick
The 3.0" screen pretty much kills the X1 for me.
... and a camera that is better than the turd on the HD. I have managed to get the Sony Xperia cam app working on the HD also... bit better.. but pic is still not brilliant..and don't forget.. no camera
enough rant.
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The HD's camera is worthless, but I don't buy phones to use them as cameras, even occasionally. Only if there was a once-in-a-lifetime chance and I had to capture something or lose it, would I consider using a phone camera. Otherwise I'll use D-SLR.
harvsingh said:
yes.. calls are clear on the x1's and hd...
prefer the shape/hold of the x1 tho
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So overall you prefer the X1 to the HD?
boba23 said:
So what? My BMW M3 Convertible should arrive in 3 weeks. I'll send you some pics as soon as it's here ;-)
boba
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I got the joke, boba.
I've ordered a Touch HD. I've been dealing with GPS lag on my TOuch Pro since day 1...its when you are further ahead than where the gps is reporting you to be by 3-5 seconds.
Can you report if the Touch HD has GPS lag or not..and what gps applications you tested? I've herd Google so far is the only one that lags on the HD.
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Easy guys...
and no-one could actually answer some really straight questions..
Does it support Line 1 and Line 2
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I answered that in a topic about it... The HD supports Line 1 and 2, the Omnia with Orange software does not. With generic software, it does though. Not too strange, right?
Indeed... I have read the comments...
I like the touch HD.. its a good attempt. Poor is the fact that with a little layout change.. the bottom 4 buttons could easily have had the X1/omnia type optical pad put on aswell.
Therefore.. you;d have a control for volume/up and down.. and skip forward and back when in coreplayer/mediaplayer.. seeing as it is very much penned as a media/internet/3g work/play horse / Iphone direct competitor.
I think the HD would be better if i could get a rom stripped of the large menu's everywhere... and get it to run as a PDA and then add large menu's/enable/disable.. and even better.. if you choose a layout that needs finger use.. or if your current layout warrants stylus
As for the Spec of X1 and HD being same... give or take a bit of ram ..i was on about internal goods.
Keyboard..i'm used to the TYTN II size... so.. moving to a more compact one.. has caught me out a few times...
But.. i for one.. did like the X1 panels.... i think it's thinking out of the box... (SE could easily have taken the TF3d...and re-skinned it.. but didn't)
I have done a proof of concept... that makes the X1 Panels (kinda) work on a HD
Anyways...
I got the panels kinda working...
It's only a proof of concept.. and after a reboot.. i cannot access them.. something freaky going on....
It shows it working. and quicker than the X1... just slightly.. but quicker.. All panels have been tried.. and work.. fish.. google... sony.. live (new panel from SE...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443723
have a look... I think they look 100 times better than TF3d.
I don't want to make this reply sound as a flame but seriously....
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then the HD... larger screen... blah blah
(i've found the Touch HD is just thin... but.. it lacks a DPAD.. and the size of fonts and menus as default are pretty much for the blind! there seems no point at general use to have all those pixels.. and set it up to use your big stump/club of a finger.)
May aswell just get a 6500 super big stupid thing,, and set the font up.
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It's a misconception that a phone NEEDS any UI hardware buttons at all. We can pretend that the iPhone is crap all we want but it demonstrates how to make a good interface. Imagine putting a DPad on there... The screen would be little over half the size making it uncontrollable, and yes, then you suddenly would require a DPad or a stylus to navigate it, because your "big stump/club of a finger" certainly wouldn't cut it.
For the blind? On so many winmo phones I need a freaking stylus to find a contact, which is stupid. I've never seen a Blackberry or an iPhone require a stylus to find a contact... or for anything at all for that matter... Thank goodness they now feature devices with huge screens and great UI's so that I can use my big, clumsy stumps of fingers to GET WORK DONE
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Touch HD spec... but in a samsung solid case.. and a camera that is better than the turd on the HD. I have managed to get the Sony Xperia cam app working on the HD also... bit better.. but pic is still not brilliant..and don't forget.. no camera
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What do you mean with a bit better? Is the camera application better, as in does it have better features? Because certainly the camera application does not make your picture any more "brilliant"... The picture is a direct feed from the sensor which you can manipulate but you can't make the quality any better.
"Touch HD spec" is a little more than just hardware, and even that just doesn't match with the samsung... Why would anybody buy a phone because of specs alone? Any good smartphone has GPS, WIFI, fast processor, 3.5G, what not. Care. The silly Omnia interface versus the HD's touch flo for "blind people"? I'd take the HD every time.
HD power consumption
how is the HD's battery holding up? can you get at least one day out of it with decent usage?
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how is the HD's battery holding up? can you get at least one day out of it with decent usage?
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Would love to know this as well. If battery life is good my Xperia may be going back (nothing wrong with the Xperias battery BTW).
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I don't want to make this reply sound as a flame but seriously....
It's a misconception that a phone NEEDS any UI hardware buttons at all. We can pretend that the iPhone is crap all we want but it demonstrates how to make a good interface. Imagine putting a DPad on there... The screen would be little over half the size making it uncontrollable, and yes, then you suddenly would require a DPad or a stylus to navigate it, because your "big stump/club of a finger" certainly wouldn't cut it..
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I totally disagree.. The Pad i am talking about is the 10mm x 8mm high square pad found on the omnia and X1. the simple touch sensative pad... not the rocker around it. Samsung have done it fine.. and if the 4 keys were spaced...this would have been perfect nested inbetween...
just out of interest.. how do you skip forward on a video you are playing in Coreplayer?
oh.. you drop to windowed view.. then skip forward.. and replay.. well.. thats crap. the x1.. i just swipe over the square pad side to side for forward and back.. and up and down for volume. T.I.D.Y!
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For the blind? On so many winmo phones I need a freaking stylus to find a contact, which is stupid. I've never seen a Blackberry or an iPhone require a stylus to find a contact... or for anything at all for that matter... Thank goodness they now feature devices with huge screens and great UI's so that I can use my big, clumsy stumps of fingers to GET WORK DONE.
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I agree.. but this should be a choice!... EVERYONE on here , wants to alter or change the standard form shipped by HTC, To make it more usable for each person.
That is what this whole place is about..
Taking what HTC have.. and make it different for differnt people.
I like the big ease factor buttons..and menus.. but maybe some would like a more tidy.. more informative display and they would rather use a stylus at times.
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What do you mean with a bit better? Is the camera application better, as in does it have better features? Because certainly the camera application does not make your picture any more "brilliant"... The picture is a direct feed from the sensor which you can manipulate but you can't make the quality any better. .
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"The Camera application is better... and has more options..the original has pants all"
"Touch HD spec" is a little more than just hardware, and even that just doesn't match with the samsung... Why would anybody buy a phone because of specs alone? Any good smartphone has GPS, WIFI, fast processor, 3.5G, what not. Care. The silly Omnia interface versus the HD's touch flo for "blind people"? I'd take the HD every time.[/QUOTE]
As i said earlier.. everyone to their own.... The omnia interface... is pants. That was declared as a better frontend. But M2d goes on.. and also the SPB shell.. which is good enough for that phone.
Anyone want to chuck another log on... ? anyone with marshmallows.?
harvsingh, your modesty knows no bounds.
jealous? no. like someone said i couldnt give a flying _ _ _ _.
"The response of Windows Mobile 6.5 as presented by XPERIA X2 is not that good as we expected from the latest high-end smartphone of the company. There are noticeable and annoying lags at times, not to mention that scrolling in the new Windows "main menu" causes some visible screen re-rendering stutter as you move up and down. It seems the graphics subsytem needs tweaking or plainly put - more processing power. Perhaps that's understandable as only now did we find out that the XPERIA X2 runs on the same CPU as the X1." -GSMArena
and that's where the big FAIL comes in...
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and that's where the big FAIL comes in...
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I know but ... some people are trying to hide that fact and say that the phone is perfect with that processor.. There is absolutely no logic to that, and that is pissing me off.
I really anticipated a lot from this phone, the specs are SO disappointing.
These are upgrades that should have been in the first release =/
look... its still beta software...
hopefully sony can get it optimized... but i'm with you guys i dont think it'll ever be as fluid as other OS's.
oh well at least its WIMO... so there's a high possibility that the software will be ported back to x1
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oh well at least its WIMO... so there's a high possibility that the software will be ported back to x1
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that's true, and that would be a good thing. I'm only into the X2 because of its camera, and slightly larger screen.
If it ever drops to $400 or lower, I'd consider it.
Guys,
I wonder if Sony is going to pay Qualcomm for the video drivers this time around. Because if they're still sticking with the same POS chip and not pay for the driver....then it makes me wonder why Sony Ericsson still even exists. It's almost like a big slap in the face to anyone who stays loyal to SE. They think their consumer base will -always- buy whatever they throw at them, even if it's ****ty products.
Cheers.
someone in se camp is in trouble
Guess what - it's the good old 7200A that is the CPU of X2. And from what I read in gsmarena - there are plenty of lags around the UI and the video playback speed is far from superb (comparing to some other new devices). All in all, it's the old X1 with new look and camera. I don't think that's worth even considering as X1 upgrade. It's a strange thing SE is doing with this X2.
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Guess what - it's the good old 7200A that is the CPU of X2. And from what I read in gsmarena - there are plenty of lags around the UI and the video playback speed is far from superb (comparing to some other new devices). All in all, it's the old X1 with new look and camera. I don't think that's worth even considering as X1 upgrade. It's a strange thing SE is doing with this X2.
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They are learning from apple. The X4 update would have xenon flash
x2 has x1 cpu
Loved my X1 especially that nice screen and hires.....but after using the HTC magic, I can't go back, the speed and responsiveness overcomes my love of my X1.
I even flashed the X1 with the EnergyROM with 6.5 etc in an attempt to want to keep it, but just find it lagging, espically if you are doing something, then phone rings and your try to answer.....ARGH, it takes 3 seconds to finally answer.......
Sadly my X1 goes for sale next week, my Magic, flashed with the Hero ROM is snappy, and does just about everything I want it to (I miss Tom Tom )
Maybe the X5 will do it for Sony....
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"The response of Windows Mobile 6.5 as presented by XPERIA X2 is not that good as we expected from the latest high-end smartphone of the company. There are noticeable and annoying lags at times, not to mention that scrolling in the new Windows "main menu" causes some visible screen re-rendering stutter as you move up and down. It seems the graphics subsytem needs tweaking or plainly put - more processing power. Perhaps that's understandable as only now did we find out that the XPERIA X2 runs on the same CPU as the X1." -GSMArena
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I love my X1 and X2 is not much different, but I am hopeful new software will work fine on my X1.
I have read a lot of posts on how people feel about X1 and I think I am the only person who likes the panel interface . Anyway if the new panels are nice and slick and I can use them on my X1 I will be happy they made an X2, but for the camera and bigger screen alone I cannot pay for a new phone.
I haven't seen anything convincing to make me upgrade, and I am not sure about all the love that Android and iPhone products get, but for now I am sticking with WinMo. I got a lot of software I know and like. I suppose a slicker, full-featured OS would convince me, but iPhone is not full-feature, and I don't know about current Android software availability.
If there were an Android device with 850/1900Mhz HSDPA and a qwerty keyboard maybe I'd give it a shot, but until then X1 is king in my book.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro&showhide=true&D1=SonyEricsson X1i XPERIA&D2=SonyEricsson X2 XPERIA Vulcan
not too impressive :S
p.s. to get to the page copy paste the link as the forum breaks the url
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BuddyLee said:
They are learning from apple. The X4 update would have xenon flash
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Fracking loled. Sadly, it is true.
Back to OP.
How can some people defend this mockery by SE is beyond me.
"It is still an early version", "The soft will be optimized", etc.
Use your brains folks. More power hungry hardware and software CANNOT run better on the same old parts. It is simple logic that even a 3 year old can understand...
I get that your expectations were for more and that you are disappointed. I felt the same way after TP2 came out. This is no reason to deny the obvious truth and be blind fanboys though.
This is just a laughable attempt of SE to earn lots of cash while providing the smallest number of upgrades. In other words, they want to spend less and gain huge ammounts. I am sorry, but people are not that stupid and those kind of tricks won't work.
This is actually worse than the TP2 and iPhail upgrades lol.
I think that the X1 with better processor and everything else the same would have been a far better "upgrade" than this joke. Keep your useless 8mpx camera and accelerometer and give us the 800mhz - 1ghz cpu. You fail SE. You fail more than Apple and that is something I thought no one could achieve......
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Fracking loled. Sadly, it is true.
Back to OP.
How can some people defend this mockery by SE is beyond me.
"It is still an early version", "The soft will be optimized", etc.
Use your brains folks. More power hungry hardware and software CANNOT run better on the same old parts. It is simple logic that even a 3 year old can understand...
I get that your expectations were for more and that you are disappointed. I felt the same way after TP2 came out. This is no reason to deny the obvious truth and be blind fanboys though.
This is just a laughable attempt of SE to earn lots of cash while providing the smallest number of upgrades. In other words, they want to spend less and gain huge ammounts. I am sorry, but people are not that stupid and those kind of tricks won't work.
This is actually worse than the TP2 and iPhail upgrades lol.
I think that the X1 with better processor and everything else the same would have been a far better "upgrade" than this joke. Keep your useless 8mpx camera and accelerometer and give us the 800mhz - 1ghz cpu. You fail SE. You fail more than Apple and that is something I thought no one could achieve......
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What a bull****.
It's absolutely more new stuff than Apple or TP2. Why do you make
these whining false statements.
I mean we would all welcome more and more, but why this whining.
None of you touched this even once.
So you also USE YOUR BRAIN.
Or this is too emotional for you....
Seems like orelsi wants to be the forum's conscience and bring us poor, misguided fanboys back to hard reality...
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Seems like orelsi wants to be the forum's conscience and bring us poor, misguided fanboys back to hard reality...
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Well he has many many valid points.
But other's have conscience as well.
orelsi and doministry both have really good points, but constantly arguing over it won't change anything.
the truth is:
Its a sexy new phone, of course there are some features that appeal and some that don't, but that doesn't change that its NEW or that its a SUCCESSOR.
Similar to the iphone 3GS, minor upgrades, but still popular around the world.
So we can just conclude it with a "Hey, that phone looks like my Xperia X1! I think..."
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What a bull****.
Or this is too emotional for you....
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Better look at your own posts. Those two sentences apply to them perfectly.
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Seems like orelsi wants to be the forum's conscience and bring us poor, misguided fanboys back to hard reality...
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Don't project your own desires on me.
I don't see you making any constructive comments anyway.
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So we can just conclude it with a "Hey, that phone looks like my Xperia X1! I think..."
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I can live with that .
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Better look at your own posts. Those two sentences apply to them perfectly.
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Sure I do look.
leaked touch leo (replacement to the touchHD)
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7674
yeah i know it does not have a keyboard and it (imo) does not look that great, but the specs are right.
with this and others (toshiba, lg, samsung etc) all coming out, why cant SE see that there x2 is so far behind?(hw specs wise)
great specs but too big and ugly
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great specs but too big and ugly
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i agree, not sure why there trying to copy toshiba's phone design
Come on HTC, stop experimenting!!! Touch Pro2 is almost perfect, it just lacks a bit of multimedia for the younger like me. So add 3.5 mm jack, good 5+ MP camera with flash, 1Ghz processor and call it Pro3, and me and many others will buy it!
3,6 inch display is perfect, anything else is too big!
Add 3.5 mm jack, 5+ MP camera with flash, 1Ghz processor!!! Is it so hard???
Please someone give me the coordinates of the chief of HTC, so that I can tell this to him, or where can I post this for HTC to seeeeee?
i dont get it ... has somebody a big pocket enough to carry that thing ??????
Cant those big companies understand that it's all about portability the limit between a netbook and a POCKET pc???
THIS IS IT!
Give me a slide-out keyboard with it (Leo Pro anyone?) and a D-Pad (no D-Pad = no go) and I'll buy it at any price. Sweet, that would fit perfectly in my hand/pocket. It has a room for a keyboard - look how thin it is!
HAHA SE, you got told (or shown) how it's done. X2 should have had that hardware, damn.
I didn't have time to read it, so is there a 3.5mm or not?
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i agree, not sure why there trying to copy toshiba's phone design
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I find the size perfect (from the pic and having toyed with that Toshiba garbage).
It is kinda ugly, but with those specs I would buy it even if it said "iPhone" on it LOL . It isn't fat enough, NEEDS MORE KEYBOARD!
The screen size is nice,
but the looks and controls look like a fart.
As well as 90% of HTC design. Don't they have any design department?
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It is kinda ugly, but with those specs I would buy it even if it said "iPhone" on it LOL ...
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Be honest! You wouldn't ...
topic: I like the phone, but not sure how big it is... Mite be too big, yes.
But I'm more into Android phones now. Soon there will be more choices
if you decide for android...
Orelsi, why not the K01?
If those specs were on x2 would be definitely the best phone in the world
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Be honest! You wouldn't ...
Orelsi, why not the K01?
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OK, I admit, I wouldn't....
I'll reserve judgement on the K01 until I hear some reviews and get it in my hands. Attaching a keyboard won't do the trick, unless they change something about the device itself.
Oh yeah:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-hd2-inches-closer-to-reality-hitting-europe-in-october-for/
Another one:
engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-leos-touchflo-3d-build-demoed-on-video/
I hate TF3D... and capacitive screen? MASSIVE FAIL!
I don't want it anymore .
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/14/sony-ericsson-outs-xperia-x10-mini-and-xperia-x10-mini-pro/
Cool; now can they do that to the normal X10? you know... add a keyboard - haha.
wheres orelsi?! havent heard any good iphone bashing recently.
very excited for SE on this...! this could really help pull them outta the crapper.
now if they could just get em to market asap?!
i do hope this comes in an american flavor.
the youtube videos make it look increadibly fast! and only 600mhz!
if only theyd been smart enough to throw this cpu into the x2!
excellent to see SE back on track.. and heading for exciting new territory!
what I wanna know is...wheres the arc slide??!
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what I wanna know is...wheres the arc slide??!
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i could care less about any arc.. as long as it works
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i could care less about any arc.. as long as it works
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wow... that look a little thick.
Ever since the X1, i'm getting pretty wary of keyboards.
I heard that it is gonna be a 2.55 inch QVGA display, so the keyboard probably be too small to be useful?
cm'on it's horrible