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Hi I just ordered my HTC magic from vodafone, though I have since discovered 2 missing features since.
The first is the circular zoom has been removed from cupcake so not vodafones fault.
Also I hear that the voice search has also been removed.
Can someone with the magic confirm these or point out any other features missing from the G1 or features that may have been demonstrated on the videos demonstrating the Magic.

yes..i'm comfirm

there's more!!
I just got my htc magic yesterday and when I turned it on, it was missing HTC DIALER and the HTC SYNC for android as well.
I'd thought they were included in the package and the phoning screen is different to the demo on the website as well. Not that its the end of the world but at least when you sell something make it clear on what you're getting.

are the described applications like pdf reader, word/excel/power point compability, Microsoft exchange. Enabled?

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are the described applications like pdf reader, word/excel/power point compability, Microsoft exchange. Enabled?
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Not on the Voda variants... but they will be on the HTC release. Typical Network customisation?

I also heard that latitude is missing from google maps.
I am not too worried about these features missing as either, I never use them or apps on the market place can be used instead. Getting my magic on monday.

Latitude is included and works great : -)
Typed on my HTC Magic

My magic is due to arrive on Monday. I am like a lot of others a Kaiser running Android and liked the experience so jumped ship. So what do you think of the magic?

vodafone e-forum
Yeah, we were discussing this on the Vodafone eforum. (thanks to haykuro for proving that things have been left out).
Its quite funny, when we started (on wednesday) the forum was completely open, but in 4 days of posting, we have had external links removed, and now they are moderating every post before it gets published, so they're clearly not happy with us discussing what's missing :/

agree,they been deleting 3 of my posts after about less then 5 minutes that they were up,so how can we get some right answers??
anyway is a disgrace ,so much words on the "OPEN SOURCE" and then some cool features are missing.
i do understand that android need to be modify to fit different phones like the samsung I7500 were on the camera setting there is a extra setting for the flash on/off. but no voice dialling??? i do drive for work so for me is a must feature, no pdf and so on.
i been criticizing the iphone and i don't want bite my tongue.
i hope voda is gone find a solution to all that or we will be forced to jailbreak it if we can get all the features and benefit of the android platform .
should we complain direct to Google as their adverts about android is misleading???????

Branwen
Yeah, we were discussing this on the Vodafone eforum. (thanks to haykuro for proving that things have been left out).
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Sorry I couldn't find discussion on VodaUK forum with links to these apps. on Haykuro's website there are no apps, just Magic port to G1.
Or am I missing something?Is it possible to install HTC Sync on Magic?

Does anyone know how to undo some of the Vodafone restrictions in place on the Magic or revert to the original HTC setup?
Here's a few of the features that I was expecting to see
Rotate Animation - shrink to small image then expand to fit orientation
Menu on lanscape mode
Support for word, exel, pdf etc
Support for Microsoft Exchange
Activesync
Voice activated dialling plus apps

guinnes.s said:
agree,they been deleting 3 of my posts after about less then 5 minutes that they were up,so how can we get some right answers??
anyway is a disgrace ,so much words on the "OPEN SOURCE" and then some cool features are missing.
i do understand that android need to be modify to fit different phones like the samsung I7500 were on the camera setting there is a extra setting for the flash on/off. but no voice dialling??? i do drive for work so for me is a must feature, no pdf and so on.
i been criticizing the iphone and i don't want bite my tongue.
i hope voda is gone find a solution to all that or we will be forced to jailbreak it if we can get all the features and benefit of the android platform .
should we complain direct to Google as their adverts about android is misleading???????
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i just realize that i cannot send photos via bluethoof .
im starting biting my tongue

yrreP said:
Not on the Voda variants... but they will be on the HTC release. Typical Network customisation?
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I didn't think their was going to be a SIM free version of this handset?

BigRD said:
Does anyone know how to undo some of the Vodafone restrictions in place on the Magic or revert to the original HTC setup?
Here's a few of the features that I was expecting to see
Rotate Animation - shrink to small image then expand to fit orientation
Menu on lanscape mode
Support for word, exel, pdf etc
Support for Microsoft Exchange
Activesync
Voice activated dialling plus apps
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I hoped that this was included too.... but its only on the org. HTC Magic.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/product-tour.html
Hope to see the HTC Magic rom soon.

does the phone support T9 or will the only method of entry is basic Qwerty keyboard?

getting the missing app back from this ??
Can't we concentrate on helping this guy to get the firmware out of his pre release magic to get the missing app from our VF magic back? ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494535
He's uploaded the system folders on the web but he is still to find a way to get the system dump out. . .. i'm not really too much into android and don't really understand much of it, but can't we get the rom from this phone and get it into VF then we'll be happy with our phone and enjoy it with the rest of our contract ??
I'd like to see htc syn, Microsoft office and active sync back into my vf magic too

Blackberry messenger for Touch pro 2

Is it possible to have blackberry messenger with a PIN for the HTC touch pro 2 ? I've been looking for a while but nothing

I am also looking for BBM on HTC, is it possible?

oohh Come on!

It´s IMPOSSIBLE because it is a Hardware based messenger, so you will never find it

But thats ok, black berries are crap anyway

guitarmaniatico said:
But thats ok, black berries are crap anyway
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I had been looking for working BB app suite (with working BBM) since ages... but I gave up. I now carry a BB Bold and a TP2...
The BB I use only for push email and BBM. All other things that I need to do, I do on my TP2. As a pda-phone, I find the winMo device is light years ahead. But for social networking, nothing beats BBM.
So, I guess I'll have to wait until RIM releases an OS that allows users to tweak and hack like WinMo, or until somehow BBM manages to run on WinMo phones... not holding by breath though.

A search or even a scan of the threads on the first page of this forum would have led you to this instead of resurrecting a more than year old dead thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=626456

SlingPlayer on HD2?

Does anyone have a clue how SlingPlayer will be operated on the HD2? especially the tiny Controller interface, I wonder how it will be interfaced via a capacitive screen? (I know that Sling has a player for the iPhone, which I had never seen, does it utilize a more finger freindly interface?)
Thanks

Anyone has an idea on that matter?

Tiny but it works, it's the same size as on my Diamond 2.....but Full Screen mode rulezzzzzzz

Thanks
Did you notice better streaming (video and sound) quality due to the faster processor?

zolom said:
Thanks
Did you notice better streaming (video and sound) quality due to the faster processor?
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When I had the Toshiba TG01 slingplayer's video quality was far better than on any other winmo device I tried and the iPhone.
If you have a good internet connection you will get 30fps no problem all the time.
I believe the HD2 will be the same.

The controls are small but usable, bearly.
I have been trying to drum up support on the uservoice forum for sling to get better controls for windows mobile. I have posted request for support before but as I suspect the total amount of users that use a slingbox is quite low so its slow going.
I have recently done the same thing for the layar app and support for that is amazing.
So I'll try again and see if we can get some updates from sling.
Please register and give your comment & votes. If we don't ask we don't get!!
http://sling.uservoice.com/pages/18...5444-iphone-style-controls-for-windows-mobile
http://sling.uservoice.com/pages/18...mobile/suggestions/406330-is-sling-listening-
http://sling.uservoice.com/pages/18...suggestions/169625-more-finger-friendly-on-wm
http://sling.uservoice.com/pages/18.../315717-touch-pro2-true-full-screen?ref=title
There are more ideas there you may want to vote on etc... every little helps.
Thanks

A new slingplayer for windows mobile is in BETA.

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A new slingplayer for windows mobile is in BETA.
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Could you give us a little backup support for that comment like maybe a link or a form or Some where I can read about this new BETA

THAD LOVELACE said:
Could you give us a little backup support for that comment like maybe a link or a form or Some where I can read about this new BETA
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^^^ What he said!

I'm using version 1.6.0.114. Is this what everyone else is using? The max resolution for this is 320x240.
What settings does everyone have configured?

New version released, Much better but fewer quality settings to customize. There is a thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623914&highlight=Slingplayer
Just thought I'd post here in case you ain't seen it.

RobvT said:
Tiny but it works, it's the same size as on my Diamond 2.....but Full Screen mode rulezzzzzzz
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Hey Man, are you using version 1.6? How did you get fullscreen, mine shows black bars in the sides, no matter if i use letterbox or normal display .
By the way, I have a Slingbox classic...

Hi. It seems pretty quiet in this thread so I'm guessing slingbox/-player isn't that widely used. By HD2-owners at least. Still I'm hoping someone has some input for downloading the slingplayer on HD2.
I've noticed that HD2 isn't listed as supported at all on http://www.slingmedia.com/go/slingplayer-mobile but judging by this thread people are obviously using it.
When I go to mobile.slingmedia.com as instructed I only get the choice between Motorola and Sony Ericsson when choosing my country. The nearest I think I come to the HD2 is the Touch Pro II version by selecting US as country. I have downloaded this cab, but I haven't installed it yet.
Now I guess it won't hurt to install this .cab, but does anyone know if this works and if so is the best choice?
And it seems this is the 2.0 version which seems to only be supported for the US. If so, is it still possible to download the previous version? I can't really see them mentioning the different versions at all on slingmedia.com...
Sorry if this got a bit long, but I've just purchased a sling box solo and making it work on HD2 is kind of a key element

I don't download a device specific version, Some how you can get it to just say Windows Mobile 5/6 and Touch then it will give you the right version.

I do see the choice of windows mobile 6 on my computer, but I can only go as far as http://support.slingbox.com/go/dl-spm-winphone-spm2 and then it says that "Desktop downloads are not available for SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Phones". When i switch to HD2 and go to http://mobile.slingmedia.com I come to the previous mentioned country and phone choosing predicament.
Do you have a download link for me? And do you download the program on your computer first or directly on the HD2? I'm feeling kind of silly thinking this really shouldn't be this hard...

I have just been through the download web page on my phone and all you need to do is select "Other Windows Mobile" Then it will give you the option of Touch Screen WM6 or WM5 or Non Touch Screen etc.
Just Pick WM6 Touch Screen and thats the version you need. Hope this helps.

Thanks so much for your efforts but I'm still not there.
In Opera on HD2 I don't se the choice of "other windows mobile" only "Windows phone" (I'm here: http://support.slingbox.com/go/downloads-spm). When I choose windows phone I do get the three choices you mention. When choosing WM6 Touch I come to http://support.slingbox.com/go/dl-spm-winphone-spm2 just as I would on my laptop. There I find no download link just that it tells me to go to http://mobile.slingmedia.com on my mobile.
Is this what you are doing? I really would appreciate a link to the page you start from and/or perhaps a link to a page with an actual download button...

Hmmmm
This is the link that I have in my bookmarks from when I first updated to Version 2. It definatly comes up with option "other windows mobile" in my Opera
http://mobile.slingmedia.com/go/phoneSelector

Thanks. It may be that you can skip the country choice page, but I believe I've been her before when I chose the US.
As I mentioned in my first post I downloaded the Touch Pro II version. The thing I was wondering most about was if this is correct for the HD2? And if it works even if you're not in the US? I can't really figure out why that should matter in the first place...
By the way, how is the sling player on HD2 working out for you? I saw there was some comments on a decrease in quality in v2.0? Weird, but still I might accept that for some better controls...

Didn't work with my Opera Mini
I had to use Explorer to see the options.
I also loaded it on my old Tilt to see if there was a difference in video quality from 1.6, as stated on the other thread in Themes and Apps, or if it was an HD2 issue. There was a noticeable negative difference, but good streaming. Went back to 1.6 and had same good streaming with better quality video. Try both and make your choice. Signal strength on both ends makes a difference. Poor quality images are better than no images at all.

The rubbishness of windows comes through very quickly

I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!

Install BSB Tweaks this allows landscape for any appplication
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305

I tried but didn't seem to work for me. maybe i was doing something wrong?
i enabled the tickbox for IE and after the soft reset i tried running it but it did nothing when i rotated the screen. Am I missing something here?

try using Gyrator .. It works on every application

aloms said:
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
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I've just made an app that does just that. Have a look at PLToggle in my sig.

Calm down mate, trust me, windows mobile is by far the best OS out there for mobiles. The only reason everyone prefers the iphone is because of its usability, apart from that theres not much you can do but 'get an app for that', however thanks to this forum, you can do almost anything with a windows mobile device, especially one as powerful as the leo. You just need to get used to it, if sense is bugging you, get spb shell or another ui. And of course theres gonna be loads of problems with it, its pretty new, but its good points strongly outway its bad points (oh and might I add, you'll be getting all your tech support from this site, not htc, trust me), so just give it some time and you'll realise, after 'making it yours' how awesome a phone it is.
If the keyboard isnt doing it for you, download a new one! (thats the great thing about winmo) the two popular ones at the moment are swype ( a completely different style of keyboard) or finger keyboard. I personally like the one htc supply you with, heres a tweak taken from this thread which will lower the sensitivy of the screen which makes typing much easier. Alternatively, bsb tweaks can do this all for you from its menu.
Oh and about the rotate thing, on xanny tech's pandora rom, he has a little execuatable file in the start menu with rotates everything, and its mapped to a long press of the send key, so thats pretty useful, im not running his rom anymore but if you know anything about flashing, flash his first, its very good indeed and has lots of tweaks and useful stuff preinstalled.
Hope that helps a little, if not just ask

thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.

aloms said:
thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.
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I agree with [★]. Once you know it better, you'll get to love it. There's so much under the hood of this thing that yes, you'll find a few things that you don't like, but they'll be outweighed by the things that you do

aloms said:
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice
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You, Sir, need to check out my thread, which would surely have come up if you had used the search function. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5197442 Windows Live/Hotmail etc seem to only take 16 characters. Anything after that is ignored. But the Windows Live application on mobile accepts more than 16 and will try and authenticate with everything you type in. 20 character password will not work. Reduce your pass to 16 characters or less and it should work. Post back in this thread to let me know if this sorts your issue out.

If it's a keyboard you're after then try Swype. Have a search for it. I too had a lot of sensitivity problems with the keyboard and it would take ages to type a simple email. Swype solved that. It's a lot less sensitive than the native keyboard and I used SIP to make it my default. In terms of landscape mode, try using Opera instead of IE (although Opera lacks flash). BSB Tweaks will handle the rest although I don't use it myself.
Trust me, stick with the phone and, with a few tweaks to have it running how you like it, you won't look back!

Just return the darn phone, smack it to the floor and trample it good, or learn to use it since you've bought it. Please save yourself over a high blood pressure leading to a stroke, my friend. It's only a phone.. (but then there's always iPhones for usability's sake, whatever it means)

aloms said:
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
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Ok, you need to calm down a tad. Ok, the phone is not perfect. However, there is endless configurability for the phone. The best thing you could ever have done was to come to this site where there is a tweak for almost anything.
Sit down, fasten your seatbelt and take a look around. You need an open mind. The HD2 is no iphone. It's the iphone killer. Just needs a little tweaking that's all.
Alternatively, you could ditch it and join the bandwagon, I mean iphone!

Try Swype, best KB I hve used on a phone, my mate with an Iphone thought it was great and was going to look for it for the Iphone, once tweaked the HD2 is the best mob by far!
I was doubtful when I first had it like you say I thought I should have gone for the Iphone but now I am so happy with it

Windows is rubbish because of the HTC keyboard?? Ok...
Isnt the whole ADVANTAGE of winmo that if you dont like something you can change it?

The advantage of WinMo is the tweaking and Office Mobile My wife had a HTC Hero for 2 months and at the end she begged me to get her a new Windows Phone because the freaking Android won't open rich text format files (unfortunately in her job she is obliged to use rtf as standart file format) without great hassle even with all possible office replacements I cound find on the net. Not to speak of that, that even the enhanced HTC mail client for Android can't open messages that are sent from mail.bg (a very popular bulgarian web mail service). That was the end for Android

Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2. Gmail is working perfectly though which is very annoying when like me, you use Hotmail on your desktop to access your Gmail emails...

aloms said:
I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!
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First of all get rid of that IDIOTIC iPhone imitation keyboard and replace it with the divine fingerkeyboard from xda.
And then deactivate the utterly unpredictive xt9 "predictive" (more like vindictive) text input.
I did these steps and now I can FINALLY type.
An $800 phone and it takes a donationware sw keyboard to make it usable

Aloms - I had the same problem with my Ipod Touch in the beginning. Don't worry, you will get use to it. BTW HD2 keyboard is better especially in landscape

I will join this thread with my three questions.
I have converted to the dark side and bought iPhone 3GS after having gone through a lot of phones and OSes. I have given up on WinMo (using HTC Pro) basically because of 3 issues:
1. Phone app in the sense of its responsiveness. I mean, someone is calling - first 2 seconds the hardware buttons light up, next 2 seconds the phone starts to vibrate, next 2 seconds there is a sound. Is it happening on the HD2 too? How responsive is it? Plus does it have a good gsm reception? With my HTC Pro I had to keep on testing different radio roms and have not been satisfied ever...
2. When you use HD2 say 4-5 days or longer, does it slow down over time. I mean especially when you use contacts with 1000 entries etc, or is it instant?
3. On a brand new HD2 just charged, when you load in your 1000 contacts, does it have an instant search of a contact in the contacts app? Or an email address in the "To" section when you want to write an email?
Frankly speaking, HD2 looks very tempting, but I am afraid mainly of the 3 above areas and am thinking to wait for Windows 7 or something?
PS. HTC Pro is still with me, but in the drawer...

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Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2.
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I've had a Diamond, a HD, and now a HD2 and I can say with 100% confidence that I never had 1 single problem with Hotmail. I've seen a very small number of users on here with issues and every single one of them has turned out to be user error.
I suggest the same in this instance as it works flawlessly when set up correctly, which 99.9% of users do.

>>>Experienced HD2 users are most welcome!<<<

Hey guys!
I am thinking of buying an HD2 and sell my N96; I know that some of my questions or maybe all are already somewhere but i guess not that they are in the same post; so here i go:
1---Can the sms be stored on MMC?
2---If the sms are on SIM/MMC/Phone; can they be copied/moved from one of these locations to another?
3---Can you create custom folders in sms? (you create a custom one and you move some sms to this folder) (i know HTCsms doesn't allow but I’ve read that default winmo messaging allows it, I’ve also read that HTCsms can be disabled but till now i didn't knew how to do all that!!!)
4---Does it really take a decade to load msgs? (in case you have hundreds of thousands) (what's the solution if yes please)
5---Does winmo have the "mark/unmark/mark all" option? (if you have to deal with a lot of files/sms/pics...??
6---Can you store the pics/videos taken on MMC?
7---Can these pics/videos be simply manipulated by Albums/categories...?
8---Can the contacts be copied/moved from SIM to phone memory and to MMC?
9---How many zoom X does the camera support? I know it's not so beautiful compared to Carl zeis's lenses of nokia, but can they be acceptable or practical?
10---What about the loudspeaker? Does it have acceptable quality?
11--- Internet and WIFI reception; are they good?
12---Radio reception, is it good?
13-User profiles (silent, meeting...) can they be timed for instance? (e.g. meeting profile timed to end automatically on 5 PM when i finish work)
14---Synch with pc and transferring data (any kind of data) with PC; is it good?
Finally some subjective questions that i care to know their answers:
A-If you want to compare messaging between Symbian (n96) to the one in Winmo6.5 (HD2) in terms of options available, details seen, customizability, moving/copying, loading speed, memory capacity... which one do you find better?
B-If you want to compare calling functions between Symbian (n96) to the one in Winmo6.5 (HD2) in terms of options available, details seen in log, customizability, call sound quality... which one do you find better?
C-Finally, did anyone of you guys bought an HD2 and dropped a Nokia N96 (or any N series) and regret it in the end?
What can you suggest me? (i wish i can try an HD2 for a long time but i can't)
Do i go for it? Or it's not worth it?
Thank you guys in advance

Life Engineer said:
1---Can the sms be stored on MMC?
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Not that I know of, but I may be wrong.
2---If the sms are on SIM/MMC/Phone; can they be copied/moved from one of these locations to another?
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You can copy fron SIM to phone and from Phone to SIM.
3---Can you create custom folders in sms? (you create a custom one and you move some sms to this folder) (i know HTCsms doesn't allow but I’ve read that default winmo messaging allows it, I’ve also read that HTCsms can be disabled but till now i didn't knew how to do all that!!!)
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Have a search in this forum, there are threads about this around.
4---Does it really take a decade to load msgs? (in case you have hundreds of thousands) (what's the solution if yes please)
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On my stock O2 1.72 Rom, no it doesn't take long. It did on the older 1.43 Rom though.
5---Does winmo have the "mark/unmark/mark all" option? (if you have to deal with a lot of files/sms/pics...??
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Yes.
6---Can you store the pics/videos taken on MMC?
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Yes.
7---Can these pics/videos be simply manipulated by Albums/categories...?
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If you mean image editing, then no.
8---Can the contacts be copied/moved from SIM to phone memory and to MMC?
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They can be moved from SIM, but not MMC. (as far as I know)
9---How many zoom X does the camera support? I know it's not so beautiful compared to Carl zeis's lenses of nokia, but can they be acceptable or practical?
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I don't tend to use digital zoom in any way, shape or form, as any type is just poor. but it zooms in from wide to fully zoomed in 4 presses.
10---What about the loudspeaker? Does it have acceptable quality?
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Its not going to make a Cyrus system bow to it's quality, and the bass response isn't going to upset the neighbours, but yes, its pretty similar to my Nokia E90s output, and is acceptable.
11--- Internet and WIFI reception; are they good?
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Depends on the quality of the signal and the distance to the aerial, and how far down in the priority list your account is with the provider. But, I've never dropped below 3 bars Edge, usually sat between 3 and 4 bars HSDPA, and wifi through access points is easily fast enough to be perfectly useable.
12---Radio reception, is it good?
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Not really, its ok outside, but indoors mine struggles.
13-User profiles (silent, meeting...) can they be timed for instance? (e.g. meeting profile timed to end automatically on 5 PM when i finish work)
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Not out of the box, but there are programs to allow this.
14---Synch with pc and transferring data (any kind of data) with PC; is it good?
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Its pretty good, better than my E90 was, and it doesn't have to be rebooted to get the Memory card back!
Finally some subjective questions that i care to know their answers:
A -If you want to compare messaging between Symbian (n96) to the one in Winmo6.5 (HD2) in terms of options available, details seen, customizability, moving/copying, loading speed, memory capacity... which one do you find better?
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The HD2s messaging is pretty simple, but I find it easier to send MMSs inc. videos and photos compared to my E90. In terms of SMS arranging, you have 2 options, per message viewing and conversqtion mode. other than that, no other functions out of the box.
B-If you want to compare calling functions between Symbian (n96) to the one in Winmo6.5 (HD2) in terms of options available, details seen in log, customizability, call sound quality... which one do you find better?
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The call log is better on the HD2 in my view, you can select a different number for a contact to the one they rang you on, great if they switch their mobile off!
Never had any issues with call quality, always been crystal clear.
I like the HD2s idea of having all the options on one screens (like loudspeaker, keypad etc) than in a menu.
C-Finally, did anyone of you guys bought an HD2 and dropped a Nokia N96 (or any N series) and regret it in the end?
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Check my sig for the phones I've had, I've not regretted it at all. The HD2 has its faults, but it is such a powerful device, its expected to have quirks. My E90 had issues, it comes with the smartphone territory.
What can you suggest me? (i wish i can try an HD2 for a long time but i can't)
Do i go for it? Or it's not worth it?
Thank you guys in advance
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To be honest, that choice is up to you. I've personally not looked back, but you may miss features between them.

Thanks man you're great!
You seem a Windows mobile fan! Are you??
Man, googling the net for windows mobile isn't encouraging; they place it as the worst OS including (RIM, iphone's, symbian, android, maemo...); do you think this is true?? Is it that bad?!? I will be glad to hear (or read ) your opinion! I had enough from reviews; i want to see real experience with this thing!
I really like to buy the HD2 but this OS thing makes me nervous!
Any other feedback is well welcomed too!

I like Windows Mobile for what it *can* do, not necessarily what it does do, if that makes sense?
I like symbian, probably on the basis that it is a logical, easy to use menu layout, i.e. if I want to access a GPS program, I open the main menu and press the GPS folder. If I want further options, I open the menu options.
In this respect, WinMo is very similar (you can arrange your start menu how you want it, even with the added option of changing icons etc).
Comparing this to the iPhone for instance (as every review seems to anyway), you open the main menu, then have to trawl through the pages of icons to find the app you want. Granted, you can move the icons around, but as far as I know, you need a PC or Mac and iTunes to do this (not sure if they've fixed this in OS4, I lost interest at 3G)
I have my HD2 doing an awful lot, set up as a wireless router for my laptop, playing games, internet browsing (I was blown away with the 800 x 332 res on the E90, but the HD2 is on the next rung or two up!), emails (have it checking 4 pop3 accounts, 1 imap and one exchange account, all at different intervals and automatically stopped at night), full GPS Sat-Nav and all the rest of the features I can reel off.
I find it incredibly stable (before anyone flames, the iPhone and E90 do need reboots now and again ) and very functional.
Yes WinMo is a bit creaky these days, but a lot of people forget it was designed to be a PDA with almost desktop features rather than a phone with PIM, and was designed in the late 90s, before Apple were even designing pretty Macs, Nokia had just released phone with polyphonic ringtones, and Palm was on its knees. None of them had such a complex functionality, and few even come close more than a decade later.
Android is getting there, but not quite, and RIM, good god, who designs a touch friendly interface for a non-touch phone? Did they not realise they made it even harder to navigate using their pearl?

My son had both the N95,N96 and now XM5800 in no way you can compare those Nokias to HD2 at least from my perspective.If you like to do customization you may never regret for getting this phone,at least I didnt.The only downside i found is the limited internal storge but I usually make sure to install my apps on the SC(MMC).
Most of the applications are a bit old but very professional,I like them much better than the Iphone which I owned over a period of 3 years.
However you seem to live in Lebanon as I also do,I live in Dowra suberebean area.I dont know if somehow I can be any help to you.
good Luck

Thank you rp-x1 you are a good man!
I think i will buy it after all; i will try it for some months or maybe years and will sell it if i didn't like it! I have nothing to loose (except couple of hundreds of dollars! )
Yes hagba i live in lebanon and you are Armenian as i see
I live in Jounieh and i work in Sin elfil so i'm not so far from you!
I will be so glad if you give me your mail address or even your phone number (in my work i can call freely so don't worry) (you can send me a private msg) or if you don't want; it's enough for me if you can tell me what are the "good"s and the "bad"s of this phone in your practical experience (not as in reviews when they mention for example that 64K colors are a downside of this phone! What do i care man?!? Am i counting them?!? )
Thanks a lot

im afraid I dont have time for a lengthy answer so ill keep it simple......
I came from an n95 and I dont miss it at all, maybe the camera a little if im honest.....
and winmo is not the worst os... in my opinion....

From all your question, one fundamental aspect is that 'can you customize your ROM?' I believe WinMo is the most customizable. Look at the HD2 ROM development thread. You can't ever do such things in iPhone or others.

Hey Life I PM-ed you my email.