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Hello,
I am in canada on fido wireless.
I wanted to know, who else use the phone in canada and which radio version you use.
I feel my battery really drains fast... and dunno why?
I am using the 1.17 radio version.
It could be a bunch of things causing your battery to drain fast.
It could be your screen, perhaps your phone is waking up in your pocket or case (sometimes volume keys will wake up phone, perhaps power button is jostled), do you lock your phone?
Regarding the radio:
How is your reception with that radio?
You say you're on Fido, what city?
Do find yourself in more dead spots than usual? Do you find you miss calls? I've heard some people say their phone feels warm when making calls.
Also, what Rilphone.dll are you using? Reading the 1.17 thread it seems people get good results with the 1.15 rilphone.
Personally, I tried a ROM with that radio and I had poor result. Could have been the ROM, could have been my rilphone, but I was scared away from 1.17.
I've been using 1.14.25.24, on Fido, in Greater Vancouver. I find that it doesn't connect sometimes and I hit lots of dead spots (I've never had a phone that didn't work in my elevator before this one).
Recently I was in Port Coquitlam and it spent the day trying to connect to the network. First time I had my battery go so quick.
Myself, I'd choose reception over battery life.
I am in toronto.
Reception has been good, and earlier I used 1.14 as well.
but i hadnt noticed to much difference.
I guess i might switch over, coz the battery really drains fast.
yes i make sure, screen does not switch on when in my pocket.
will see if downgrading will improve my battery life.
I'm In Mississuga.
I'm using Energy Rom + Radio 1.17. In my opinion, I feel the the Radio 1.17 is better than 1.14. cheers
the problem i have, is that my phone loses signal every once in a while. I get between 4 and 0 signal bars, changing all the time, while I sit still in the living room So often I have no reception for text messages or calls.
it seems that winmo uses so much CPU power for certain background tasks, that the signal quality suffers, or even loses signal. When starting a call, or sending an sms, the signal bars drop like led.
what can I can do? getting desperate here... I even tried holding the phone upside down, thus not touching the antenna. Pharaday effect is known, but phone quality is only marginally better outside. Tried all radios on the forum, and several different flavours ROM, including a stock one
is there a software tool, that displays exact radio signal strength, instead of the bars on top?
dXsL said:
the problem i have, is that my phone loses signal every once in a while. I get between 4 and 0 signal bars, changing all the time, while I sit still in the living room So often I have no reception for text messages or calls.
it seems that winmo uses so much CPU power for certain background tasks, that the signal quality suffers, or even loses signal. When starting a call, or sending an sms, the signal bars drop like led.
what can I can do? getting desperate here... I even tried holding the phone upside down, thus not touching the antenna. Pharaday effect is known, but phone quality is only marginally better outside. Tried all radios on the forum, and several different flavours ROM, including a stock one
is there a software tool, that displays exact radio signal strength, instead of the bars on top?
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i have very bad signal if i sit or stand under or next to METAL roof around my house, but i have a very good signal outside my house. Sometimes i am not able to receive a call when making a call from home phone. Since you have all radios in here, i don't know which radio to suggest. FYI, I am using 2.08.50.08_2 radio and it gives me better signal.
waichai said:
i have very bad signal if i sit or stand under or next to METAL roof around my house, but i have a very good signal outside my house. Sometimes i am not able to receive a call when making a call from home phone. Since you have all radios in here, i don't know which radio to suggest. FYI, I am using 2.08.50.08_2 radio and it gives me better signal.
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that's Pharaday's Cage effect. that is not what I have. HD2 cpu power is having an effect on the radio signal strength (bg processes probably)
If other people with non-HD2 phones have the same problems, the problem may not be your HD2, but consider you have weak signal strength from your provider. This happened in my previous appartment where I had to stay in the kitchen if I wanted to make a phone call.
What radio ROM do you use ? I had some problems too in the past. Now with radio ROM 2.10.50.26 I don't have these problems anymore.
But in the meanwhile I never went back to a stock ROM either so my next question is : what ROM do you use ? I don't have any of these problems with Laurentius26 or CleanEX ROMs since I use the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM.
Trudi said:
What radio ROM do you use ? I had some problems too in the past. Now with radio ROM 2.10.50.26 I don't have these problems anymore.
But in the meanwhile I never went back to a stock ROM either so my next question is : what ROM do you use ? I don't have any of these problems with Laurentius26 or CleanEX ROMs since I use the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM.
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hej, 2.10.50.26 was the last one I used, when i decided to go "back" to the official ROM in Denmark and that one came with radio 2.06.51.07.
I used primarily Miri's ROM, but I switched to Artemis (did of course a task29 after the stock ROM); Artemis tests on radio 2.06 instead of 2.10. My theory was/is that a windows ROM should fit with radio ROM. But so far, not noticeably better.
REQ: still looking for a tool that monitors (and logs?) signal strength, so I do some tests. anyone?
I just found this post by tokolosh in an EnergROM thead
Q: Which is the best Radio to use with EnergyRoms ...... ?
A: There is no "Best" Radio, they seem to be Location and Preference dependant. Some have better Recetion but poor battery life and vicaversa. Try out the "big 4" to see which works best for you (2.(07/08/09/10).50.xx_xx) just make sure it is a 50 and not a 51 version --> example 2.07.50.xx is good but 2.07.51.xx is not
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Anyone smarter than me who can explain WHY the 51 is not good? (googled for answer but no luck...)
I've installed Android on NAND and am very impressed as everything seems visually better suited to the new format. I'm even happier now Copilot is working. However, I don't understand the signal bars properly. On WM I understand if I have 3G+ or at least a good signal. The signal bar in Android never looks particularly healthy although ironically as I type it is showing full bars with a 'G' beside it (I've just turned off wireless and the G appeared, this is presumably how data transfer is configured). Is there any reason why the signal might not be so good running Android instead of WM? Is there any way of improving the signal? Ultimately I need the thing to be a phone!
The Android I'm running is for Desire - whatever is linked to in the 'NAND for noobs' thread.
Trying flashing different radios. Search up our HD2 radio thread, and you'll see. Also, follow the requirements meant for your device to run android. Meaning don't flash a radio lower than 2.08 for EU HD2, for a TMOUS HD2, i'm not sure.
I used the latest (biggest number) radio before I put Android on - does flashing Android change the radio and in any case how do I find out what radio version I currently have?
Latest sure isn't always best when it comes to radios. You can check your radio in bootloader, or in android/settings/about phone, somewhere at the bottom
Flashing Android does not change your radio.
Stock Android uses 4 bars for signal while Sense ROMS use 6. I'm not sure how it equates between the ROMs but I can assure you there is no loss of signal.
First off, ignore the suggestions about updating your radio. You said that your signal appears weaker under Android than WM, so it's obviously not the radio as installing Android does not affect that.
All I can really say is that you may want to just ignore the signal bars and judge it by call quality. It may be that the build you are using is not reflecting the signal strength correctly. That's more likely than you actually having a weaker signal in a different OS since the OS has nothing to do with it!
Just see how you get on with it and if there is a problem then that's a different matter.
OK I don't seem to have any real issues with signal.
BUT (running Android NAND Desire Rom of some sort) after a few days a few problems:
1. The phone seems reluctant to charge in the car cradle if the charge level is low
2. Sometimes freezes in Copilot and needs battery removing to re start
3. Battery usage much more severe than WM
4. Lots of minor wobbles that I can't think of now I am typing.
The upshot is that I would now like a Desire HD but am thinking of going back to WM6.5 on the HD2 purely for reliability.
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OK I don't seem to have any real issues with signal.
BUT (running Android NAND Desire Rom of some sort) after a few days a few problems:
1. The phone seems reluctant to charge in the car cradle if the charge level is low
2. Sometimes freezes in Copilot and needs battery removing to re start
3. Battery usage much more severe than WM
4. Lots of minor wobbles that I can't think of now I am typing.
The upshot is that I would now like a Desire HD but am thinking of going back to WM6.5 on the HD2 purely for reliability.
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Well every build will have some minor hick up... Try different builds, there are plenty of build which have everything working and also the battery life is at par with win6.5
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Well every build will have some minor hick up... Try different builds, there are plenty of build which have everything working and also the battery life is at par with win6.5
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Can you point me to one? There are an overwhelming number available and I simply don't know how to judge one against the other
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Can you point me to one? There are an overwhelming number available and I simply don't know how to judge one against the other
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777 is a good one... Try mdeejay's builds... they are good ones... There are also other good and better ones out there. But I like his better.
Also read this post:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929324
my signal bars go up and down all the time in droid
Hello everyone,
Since the beginning of the Android period, I've been experiencing reception problems, as well as a few friends of mine. The phone is continually searching for signal and losses it quickly, jumps from HSDPA to other means, and also has the problem of regaining the signal after going through a tunnel etc.
I am not a developer myself, but was wondering if anyone else was experiencing the same problems and if there is anything to be done about it.
I know there was a slight fix introduced not too long ago in Tytungs kernel, but for me things still pretty suck.
If you have something to say about this, please do. Otherwise, a mod can handle the positioning of this thread. No need to start flaming if you have nothing to say.
All Hail XDA!!
Cheers,
Chovav
Thread reported to forum mod, Why don't you realise even after placing [Q] in the heading that you need the Q&A forums.
As for your concerned problem, i havn't faced that till now except for the fact i have data drops seldomly.
I have the same problem. I've tested several ROM, radios, Magldr clk...
I always use the *#*#4636#*#* trick. But I always have to return to 2G only.
I think that there must be different kind of hardware that avoid getting a decent signal level.
I tried the Probable Hardware Fix For HD2 Poor Signal too. I have better reception but no as solid as with 2G
I love the phone but when I use only 2G I want to cry (almost everytime).
Thanks in advance, Paco
Just something I would like to throw out there, I also have reception issues on ANY rom, but its occurrence seems to be like the original iPhone 4 came out, terrible reception if you squeeze the whole phone with your hand. I prove that theory by doing that in my room, if i dont touch the phone (just the screen) and browse the web, I do it with full bars. But as soon as I pick up the phone and browse, it will drop very quickly to 1 or no bars (from 4). See if you can trial this yourself, put phone down and browse web, and then hold the phone and try it. See if that makes a difference. Does for me.
There was a thread a while back about this and it showed a screen that you can get to that shows how long you have had signal and I remember looking at it in mine and it showed that I was without signal at least a third of the time the phone was powered on. I don't remember how to get to it any more or I would show you a screen shot of it. I have constant full bars of H where I am and even not moving the phone still shows this same behavior of dropping connection to the towers.
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I dualboot android SD (Jaguarlani) and WP7. I hadnt used WP7 for a month now, and i've got an old 7740 rom of YUKI Back to the future. Now, while I was on, the phone started shedding battery life and getting hot. Within 40 minutes of minimal use it had used up 20% of the battery.
I'm using a 2.12 radio ( the recomennded one) and booting via magldr, Which rom should I flash to eliminate this issue And i've tried most fixes, which do not work.
I've got an europeian HD2 from italy.
I really like wp7, I really do, but I cannot use it with such horrible battery life, even SD android had 8 hours of fairly heavy use battery life. I imagine running it properly off nand will increase that.
Mine gets fairly hot and used battery like crazy when I watched videos or listen to music for an extended period of time as well.
However, I've been running DFT UltraFruit, for my daily phone, since it came out and my battery life has really improved.. 10-13 hours normal use, and it doesn't get as hot as it used too.
I'm in the US on t-mobile, using the most current radio... I'm not sure how much help that is, but that's my experience.
It's not that kind of issue, It gets extremely hot (think 50 to 60 C) when idling or using the internet for less then 10 minutes.
The thing is that the only place it gets hot is the 3g modem( I think ) which leads me to think that the issue is software - based.
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It's not that kind of issue, It gets extremely hot (think 50 to 60 C) when idling or using the internet for less then 10 minutes.
The thing is that the only place it gets hot is the 3g modem( I think ) which leads me to think that the issue is software - based.
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60c would burn your hand, if you can hold it, then it isnt that hot, if its down the bottom then it could also be wifi, all the gubbins are down that way
give ultrafruit a try, there is a huge difference in battery life, meaning that something isnt drawing as much power.
It might also be worth considering changing your radios, hard and soft, dispite common believe a newer radio doesnt mean a better one, usually carriers change radios based on their local settings in that market, so settings that might be good for one person might be terrible for another.
a very basic and over simplified, incorrect and generally a bit shoddy example might be that in your area the network is setup with settings that means your phone is trying double time to keep a connection, where as the same settings on my phone in my location might mean the phone doesnt need to try so hard because of my networks settings.... does that make sense?
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60c would burn your hand, if you can hold it, then it isnt that hot, if its down the bottom then it could also be wifi, all the gubbins are down that way
give ultrafruit a try, there is a huge difference in battery life, meaning that something isnt drawing as much power.
It might also be worth considering changing your radios, hard and soft, dispite common believe a newer radio doesnt mean a better one, usually carriers change radios based on their local settings in that market, so settings that might be good for one person might be terrible for another.
a very basic and over simplified, incorrect and generally a bit shoddy example might be that in your area the network is setup with settings that means your phone is trying double time to keep a connection, where as the same settings on my phone in my location might mean the phone doesnt need to try so hard because of my networks settings.... does that make sense?
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I will definetly try this new ultrafruit. How would I go about changing the soft radios though? The hard radio works really well on android and consumes barely any power, so I doubt that's the issue, I'm thinking more of a WP7-centric problem which points to softradio.
Other then that I do not have wi-fi on and I disabled 3g too, it still gets hot, and I wasnt exaggarating too much, it's in the range of barely being touchable, I would compare it to touching a hot-water run radiator that's been turned all the way up.
I live in bulgaria, and that's probably the core of the issue. However I have never switched softradios before, could you give me general directions, please?
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I will definetly try this new ultrafruit. How would I go about changing the soft radios though? The hard radio works really well on android and consumes barely any power, so I doubt that's the issue, I'm thinking more of a WP7-centric problem which points to softradio.
Other then that I do not have wi-fi on and I disabled 3g too, it still gets hot, and I wasnt exaggarating too much, it's in the range of barely being touchable, I would compare it to touching a hot-water run radiator that's been turned all the way up.
I live in bulgaria, and that's probably the core of the issue. However I have never switched softradios before, could you give me general directions, please?
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The software radio seems to be an invention of WP7, or at least thats the first we knew of it
The down side is you cant just flash a new radio like you can do with a hardware radio (Tri colour bootloader>plug in PC> install using the custom RRU)
To change the software radio you need to flash it with the initial ROM, meaning you can only change it when you wipe the whole device.
If you download a WP7 ROM, and then look at the files you will see a data.zip file. In that you will see a whole bunch of part files, the one you want is part 0
delete it within winrar, then add the part 0 from a different radio to the data.zip, using winrar again.
give me a few min and ill find you a list of all the radios
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http://www.multiupload.co.uk/BT6BI9FFDP
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The software radio seems to be an invention of WP7, or at least thats the first we knew of it
The down side is you cant just flash a new radio like you can do with a hardware radio (Tri colour bootloader>plug in PC> install using the custom RRU)
To change the software radio you need to flash it with the initial ROM, meaning you can only change it when you wipe the whole device.
If you download a WP7 ROM, and then look at the files you will see a data.zip file. In that you will see a whole bunch of part files, the one you want is part 0
delete it within winrar, then add the part 0 from a different radio to the data.zip, using winrar again.
give me a few min and ill find you a list of all the radios
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http://www.multiupload.co.uk/BT6BI9FFDP
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That link is barely alive, only rapidshare has it still up, thanks for the guidelines.
Haha, Yuki made it....his been gone awhile lol
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Same issue
Please, I need help too,
My phone is getting hot since a while.
This after I fully charged my battery.
:S Any hack infos?
Alright, got pdaimatejam's rom up and running, so far the battery life is good so far, gonna play a movie (akira) when it finishes transcoding (._.)
Any MKV or avi drivers for WP7?
So far though, with the 5.71 radio I havent gotten online, meaning no internet. Phone is functioning though.
Am I going to need to reflash again with an older radio?
Update: this rom is freaking sweet, battery is really really stable!
Update 2: Radio is using 3g networks without providing internet connection, the battery drain is still faster then android, but it's within 1 hour. Other then that the screen and sensors dont draw as much power so it's pretty decent right now.