Best way to clean HD2 screen? - HD2 General

Whats the best way to clean the hd2 screen? Is spraying a bit of window cleaner safe?

I use my forearm, it's nice and hairy and makes it look brand new

A clean dry cloth does the job, no need to use product and I would avoid water anyways... Just rub it with a clean dry cloth and watch the screen shine like the day you unboxed it

I wouldn't spray anything on the screen; I use a "Spontex" microfibre glass cleaning cloth. It's very soft and buffs up the screen in seconds leaving no fibres behind. They cost about three quid in tescos and also do my specs!

I use the inside of my t-shirt lol... or if its a bit greasy from the side of my face I'll breathe on the screen first to give it a tiny bit of moisture and then use the inside of my t-shirt... works very well

I rub it on my trousers, shirt, jumper, t-shirt, boxers... whatever's easiest at the time. I do have a glasses cleaner at my computer desk and tend to use that when I'm sat there. That gets great results.

Plus 1 for the micro fibre cloths. Absolutely amazing results, albeit they feel a bit strange in your hands (the micro fibre cloths, that is).
WB

Never use liquids to clean the screen as it may intrude around the edge (a strong breath is best)
The screen on the HD2 is very duarble so the inside of a Tshirt is excellent and very handy if you are dressed (always make sure there is no grit/sand)
and never to be using scrotum, because to catch hair can be very painfull and maybe also hygene problems

rumpleforeskin said:
Never use liquids to clean the screen as it may intrude around the edge (a strong breath is best)
The screen on the HD2 is very duarble so the inside of a Tshirt is excellent and very handy if you are dressed (always make sure there is no grit/sand)
and never to be using scrotum, because to catch hair can be very painfull and maybe also hygene problems
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Thanks for that. I will stop...

I use lens/optical cleaning cloth... Makes the screen shine like new ;-)

laserviking said:
I use my forearm, it's nice and hairy and makes it look brand new
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- You'r Funny

Lol @ laserviking
I dont own a hd2 but i carry a micro fibre cloth that came with my plasma tv i hace the nexus one

Another vote for micro-fibre cloths. I usually use the one I got from Specsavers to clean my glasses with. The advantage of this over clothing is not just that it's softer (and thus guaranteed not to scratch) but that it is far better at absorbing grease, which means the screen ends up completely free from finger-prints. Using your shirt tends to spread the grease around rather than removing it.

I use the screen cleaning cloth that came with my laptop (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 3650).
It is amazing and fast, I clean the screen in 4-5 seconds and it looks new and shiny
P.S. Do not use any cleaning products or water, just a dry cloth.

hey guys after cleaning my screen with a watery sheet for glasses and not the for the first time - I got a strange problem:
my fingers don´t slide smooth anymore on the screen, it feels like they are braking and slowed down because of this dry screen.also doing multitouch zooming one handed is a problem now!
would be gratefull for any tips!

murderdollpf said:
hey guys after cleaning my screen with a watery sheet for glasses and not the for the first time - I got a strange problem:
my fingers don´t slide smooth anymore on the screen, it feels like they are braking and slowed down because of this dry screen.also doing multitouch zooming one handed is a problem now!
would be gratefull for any tips!
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The effect will wear off after you use the phone for a little while, it's probably the substance is creating a dry effect lool. And I recommend micro-fibre cleaning cloths, your shiny HD2 will catch everyone's eye in the market!
Oh wait, don't get mugged though Spraying some window cleaning liquid might go into the device through the gaps at the side or through the hardware buttons, causing unwanted problems. Good luck cleaning xD

1. get a shirt
2. rub your HD2 on it
3. ????
4. profit!

after i got my hd2 i used a screen protector to avoid scratches and i clean it so easy just rubbing it in my shirt and thats it, but guys how to clean the edges and the speaker and buttons parts ?

all this method of cleaning the screen is with consideration that u guys have a screen protector on right?
other then the microfiber method, all other method is scratch inducing and sooner or later a scratch will appear on the screen..

laserviking said:
I use my forearm, it's nice and hairy and makes it look brand new
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amazing!!!
*tries*

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Can I wash and reuse factory screen protector?

That's pretty much my question. I read the thread talking about doing this with aftermarket ones, and wish I had read it before I applied mine. I got dust under mine. basically want to know if I can wash the one that came with the Fuze and put it back on, before I spend 20 bucks to have a new one shipped to me.
The short answer is "Yes"
Lukewarm water is a good place to start, and don't bother to try to get the "down" side (the sticky side) completely dry: just flap about a bit until most of the water shakes off.
Might find it works better if you have some non-greasy soap around - note that most of the soaps available today will leave their OWN residue behind!
Another handy trick for removing spots of DUST is to simply pick them up with tape. This technique is particularly worthwhile if your only complaint is a small number of dust spots that you can remove (with the tape) by only having to lift one corner of the cover.
Find that a microfiber cloth does a good job with the Exterior service of the screen cover, with a bit of "Safe For Coated Lens" cleaner sprayed on the cloth if the cover is particularly grimy....
Why would you when they only cost a few pence!!!!
I just use regular seetrough tape, apply it all around, rub it on tight, then pull it of. after that apply it imidiatly to the phone, otherwise it'll collect dust again.
water didn't work on mine.
@jim: you would because this is FREE, no trouble and no waiting for your products (some people can only order them online from other countries and have to wait a week (or 2) ). + I think the factory one is the best (I have a differrent one but I liked the factory the best)
Thanx for the help. I heard the factory one was the best as well, that is why I wanted to stick with that one. That being said, I was using my phone in the car the other day,(not whilst driving) and forgot I left it on my lap, and well got out. long story short I guess I'll have to order a new one anyway. the phone made it alright, just 2 small chips. lucky i had the screen protector on though. Any one know of any as good as factory?
I just put a Martin Fields protector on my Fuze and love it. It's definitely on par if not better than the factory one.
Have an Exim screen protector on its way, but don't expect to receive it until early (hopefully) next week.
Have also been pleasantly surprised by the included screen cover - but wish they had included a protector for the keypad area as well. At the moment, intent is to mount the Exim's keypad cover once it arrives and save the screen cover until ready to replace the OEM one.
Pricing on screen covers varies widely: have had good luck with Boxwave covers for my Axim, but am ready to try some of the less expensive options with the Fuze.
Mattijn106 said:
I just use regular seetrough tape, apply it all around, rub it on tight, then pull it of. after that apply it imidiatly to the phone, otherwise it'll collect dust again.
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you can use the steam trick, go into a small bathroom and run the hot water until there is a lot of steam. This will drop the dust particles from the air, ensuring you don't get any dust on the screen or protector while applying.
bboyneko said:
you can use the steam trick, go into a small bathroom and run the hot water until there is a lot of steam. This will drop the dust particles from the air, ensuring you don't get any dust on the screen or protector while applying.
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I hope you mean just the screen protector...
taking your phone in a steamy room is just stuipid
gbueh said:
I hope you mean just the screen protector...
taking your phone in a steamy room is just stuipid
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im sure nothing will happen to your phone in a steamy room
unless condensation occurs inside the phone, you're fine
i have so many phones
i always bring them into the bathroom,
i just leave it on the counter
i have never had a broken phone due to steam
not a porn site ;-)
These are reasonable priced and offer excellent protection.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/servlet/StoreFront
it's awesome way to remove dust by tape so i tested it and success with me

[GUIDE] How to easily scratch your HD2 screen

This simple guide will instruct how to easily scratch the tempered glass of the HTC HD2:
1. Go outside.
2. Put your hand on the ground.
3. Put this same hand in your jean's pocket (some sand particles will enter).
4. Put the HD2 (without case) in this same pocket.
5. Go on with your day.
At night (probably before) you'll discover small scratches.
http://www.hi-mobile.net/htc-screen-protector-hd2_t8585
I recommend screen protector from other reasons. Glare reduction, lower screen sensitivity, and lower friction.
Leo's screen is glass, not plastic. No matter how gross it gets, my fingers still does not glide on it as on older resistive screens. Plastic protector really helped.
this is a very stupid topic, wasted 20 secs reading it, and I'll probably waste a few more moments wondering what the creator was thinking.
I would recommend a full body cover like this: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-hd2-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
this is a really dumb thread ... i mean REALLY
Oh yeah!
Thanks for this thread!
BTW do you sell that?
Common chaps, where is your sense of humour? This made me lmfao. :
Much better than ploughing through a thousand threads all asking the same question even though it has been answered before.
He is making a serious point in a wacky way. I like his style. Go on, cut him some slack.
WB
1-Put your hand on the ground
2-Put this same hand in your pocket
3-take your unwraped sandwich and put it in that same pocket
4-keep it there all day
5-than eat it.
you should wash your hands after playing with dirt!!
hagba said:
5-than eat it.
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lol this made me laugh
1.carefully balance phone on forehead.
2.gently smack said forehead repeatedly into brick wall.
3.study phone. If no scratches return to step one and repeat.
4.mention to the world if only you had a screen protector on, you could have saved said phone.
I suspect if the 'dirt' can scratch the glass, they can scratch through the few microns thick of plastic shield. Each to their own.
my 2p.
hagba said:
1-Put your hand on the ground
2-Put this same hand in your pocket
3-take your unwraped sandwich and put it in that same pocket
4-keep it there all day
5-than eat it.
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lmao. 6- you`l find bread crumbs all over the screen lol.
joking aside, actually thats handy to know, i normally work on building sites although been layed off at the moment. i thought the screen was practically scratch proof after seeing the scratch test video with the guy using razor blades scissors and keys. good to know now even in a secure sealed pocket its going to get scratched with the slightest bit of dirt on my hands. you may of just saved me the horror of taking my phone out my pocket an seeing it de-faced! lol
Noam23 said:
At night (probably before) you'll discover small scratches.
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No, you are wrong.
Noam23 said:
This simple guide will instruct how to easily scratch the tempered glass of the HTC HD2:
1. Go outside.
2. Put your hand on the ground.
3. Put this same hand in your jean's pocket (some sand particles will enter).
4. Put the HD2 (without case) in this same pocket.
5. Go on with your day.
At night (probably before) you'll discover small scratches.
http://www.hi-mobile.net/htc-screen-protector-hd2_t8585
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What will happen if I put my hand in my other pocket.. or perhaps I may not have pockets on the garment I'm wearing on that particular day, what should I do then?
Epic Title Fail or better... LULZ of the day.
I actually read the original post 2-3 times to make sure my eyes weren't wrong. lol
Is this thread still going? Must be christmas.
WB
I cannot believe I just read this
Anyway some posts really funny
strange topic (and returns to brick wall)
I'm using plastic protector. Yes I feel it glides better. Happier when using Swype.
But plastic is easier to dent and those marks are a little bit annoying.

My screen is a dust magnet, anybody have the same issue?

I am currently not using a screen protector and I've noticed my screen is a dust magnet. I get an substantial amount of dust latching on to my screen (if it was just a bit I wouldn't bother). Is there any liquid solution I can use to make the screen more dust resistant? I am currently using lens cleaner and disposable microfiber cloths to clean my screen. Anybody else getting the same issue?
I just ordered a SGP crystal clear screen protector because I noticed how popular they were on the forums... but it won't arrive for another week.
maybe u should clean up in ur cave
If by cave you mean the city of Toronto (yes I collect dust while walking around the city), then yeah I'd like to. But all the mayoral candidates are crap and our politicians are corrupt as hell. Cleaning ain't gonna happen. Thanks for the suggestion though.
almaalma74 said:
maybe u should clean up in ur cave
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Haha funny
But it's a real problem with a real solution (2.2-only)...
Go to settings
then click display
then scroll down
turn 'dust collector' off
that should do the trick!
This is my first time running into snarky people on xda, everybody else has been nothing short of helpful.
I'm noticing my phone screen is collecting more dust than all my other gadgets; I'm just wondering if anybody has had a similar issue.
There is no need to try to insult my intelligence. Thank you very much.
Turn your phone upside down when you place it on something, should do the trick lol
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hahaha the replies made my day xD xD
Now that I think of it, I have never seen dust on the screen of my SGS, even though I live in a relatively polluted city. I guess it just gets wiped off by my fingers while, you know, I'm actually using the phone.
rasebo said:
Now that I think of it, I have never seen dust on the screen of my SGS, even though I live in a relatively polluted city. I guess it just gets wiped off by my fingers while, you know, I'm actually using the phone.
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Thanks for letting me know.
Since I've got the phone I've been cleaning my screen with a camera lens cleaner solution. I'm just concerned I may have wiped off a coating off the glass, or the solution itself made the surface more adhesive. I'm sure it won't be a problem once the SGP protector arrives.
I know nothing about the hardware so please correct me... The screen is capacitive thus using electricity to detect touch. If for some reason the shielding is broken i can imagine it is a little bit static thus attracting dust. It could well be that my assessment is bs.
happens to my phone too.
My guess is that you have rubbed off our dissolved some sort of coating. I've had mine here in Vancouver (so the same Bell model, probably) for a couple of months and have never noticed anything I'd describe as dust, maybe some good old sweat and grease.
If you don't mind my asking, why were you cleaning the screen in the first place? Why use any sort of cleaning liquid if you're gonna clean it at all? Wouldn't the microfiber cloth, or kimtech wipes be enough? But again, why do it at all?
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Recent study reveals germs and bacteria make your phone more dirty then a toilet seat.
I don't need a study to tell me that, the toilet seat is one of the cleanest parts of your house.
Still, you don't see people washing their money, their keyboard, or their dish sponge obsessively...
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I guess you could try brasso gadget clean or something. I have never tried it but its meant to be anti static. Hope that helps.
Personaly i clean my phone weekly not for the germs but to remove crusts. I use lcd screen cleaner btw. But if you'll ever have to take care of a baby you will quickly get into the habit of cleaning everything.
this is now getting way off topic, as I'm sure the baby isn't playing with the i9000
but to keep that train of thought going, first time parents do tend to clean everything thoroughly (and hourly), but by the time you have your second or third you realize there's really no need to scrub everything with antibacterial sprays...
anyway, I'm curios whether someone knows if a capacitive touchscreen, gorilla skin, or the SGS's implementation of both has some kind of coating that's vulnerable to being taken off with lense cleaning fluids
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/08/brasso-gadget-care-polish-review/ that's the brasso stuff. I have been using the sgp ultra clear. Its pretty decent thought nothing will beat the bare screen. And I have noticed it is slightly less responsive. Before with use the slightest touch it would register my finger. Now it seems like I need to apply abit more pressure.
Also when applying the screen protector be VERY careful. I wasted the first one because of dust getting underneath. very annoying so be careful and do it somewhere dust free and as quickly as possible.
Although I wash my face with biotherm homme exfoliating face wash twice a day, I don't have the best skin in the world. I tend to accumulate oils as the day progresses and my phone tends to share a bit of it. With that said, it was necessary for me to clean the phone every so often. The reason I used lens cleaner was because it was readily available and I figured if it was gentle enough for a camera lens, it should be more than apt for glass.
I'm just speculating there may be an anti static layer I've cleaned off. I wouldn't be surprised if there was (I mean they do sell anti static sprays). Atm, I'm just waiting for my SGP Ultra Crystal screen protector.
In the worst case I'll also try Brasso and/or an anti-static spray.
As for applying the protector, I think I'm going to use the steamy washroom method.
Btw, thanks to all who have added constructive suggestions and input, I really appreciate it.
I now have the same problem on my new Pixel 7 Pro I bought like a month ago. It's screen is dusty whenever I get it out of the pocket no matter what pants.
Searched everywhere and can't find anything useful. My first guess is some kind of static electricity. I've tried:
• other phones
• anti-static screen cleaner
• letting the battery die and keep it uncharged for like half a day.
• a bunch of different jeans/pants
• even tried vaccum cleaning my pockets and trying to pick up anything that's impossible to see with human eye by a lint roller and duct tape.
Putting on a screen protector film or tempered glass would be my last resort.
After 30 minutes in pocket it looks like this. It's really embarrassing when I have to get it out in front of other people. Also attaching a photo of my pocket so you don't think they are messy or something. Other phones do not have this problem in the same pocket

[Q] Cleaning Tips for Nexus 4 users

Hey guys,
So I've had the Nexus 4 for around two weeks now and it's too well designed of a device for me to resort to using screen protectors although I will be getting a thin case soon since it is quite slippery. I was just wondering what some of you do in order to maintain the condition of the device. I've simply been using a dry microfiber cloth - usually used on my eyeglasses - and rubbing gently until all the smudges are gone. This keeps it quite clean for 3-4 days but I don't know if that period will shorten with prolonged use. Any and all tips are appreciated, thanks in advance!
I just usually rub it on my shirt. Takes the smudges off in one wipe
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After I wash/dry my hands I use the edge of my palm, the coating is great so I don't even have to do that that often.
Sounds like a pack of microfiber cloths should do just fine for the future then! Thanks guys, still welcoming other suggestions
I keep a pack of Wireless Wipes nearby. Great product I've been using for years. http://www.wirelesswipes.com
BigVDawgy said:
I keep a pack of Wireless Wipes nearby. Great product I've been using for years. http://www.wirelesswipes.com
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american apparel t-shirts work surprisingly well. it makes the phone extra shiny!
well it works just like a microfiber cloth.
any sunglasses pouch works well too!
I use optical wipes on my phones, gets rid of any finger grease and doesn't leave streaks.
I use the cloth that came with the Nillkin case. Works way better than a microfiber one that came with my girls mini laptop.. :/
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Not fair
He guys im new and i had a question about keeping my nexus 4 clean. So when i recieved my nexus 4 i had it naked without a screen protector or case, then i decided to buy a full body xtremeguard screen protector, which was 6 dollars. They arrived and i tried putting them on the next day. They were wet installation which i didnt really like. I had to use a bowl of handsoap and water. So I installed them and tried to accelerate the drying process a little by using a blow dryer, but guess what, it really made the beautiful screen look all ugly and disoriented so i took them off and decided to keep it the way. and applied a little more water to the glass to get all the soapy residue off and dried it off a little more. The next day I noticed that when i held it in sunlight I noticed this white stuff inside the crevices in between the glass and the edges of the phone. SO whats bothering me is that i think its dried soap in there and blow drying it only made it worse. But wheat really gets me ticked off is that i wanted to keep my phone perfect and clean but that stuff is still in there and i dont know how to get it out. Its just killing me. Ive tried water, q tips, even scraping it out with printer paper but no luck. Can anyone give me ideas or help plz?? thx. IM sorry if this a very long post
Should have left the XtremeGuard on there, it takes a few days for them to dry properly and until they do, they look like a disaster.
As for the left overs, maybe a fingernail will be able to scrape it out?
Rusty! said:
Should have left the XtremeGuard on there, it takes a few days for them to dry properly and until they do, they look like a disaster.
As for the left overs, maybe a fingernail will be able to scrape it out?
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Fingernail is thicker than paper. If he can't get it out with paper....Try using a needle I guess?
Oh nope I already tried that when my nails were longer and now there even more useless ha. Its too deep in there. But I guess I'll keep searching though. Any type of liquid I could use to dissolve it or something?
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Not related to the above posts as such but more the actual thread title, a pair of jeans works very well. Wiping the phone on my knees while wearing jeans gets rid of everything, and no smears either. Looks like new, much better than T-Shirts.
anyone have advice on how to clean the ear piece grill? putting my nexus 4 in my jeans and pockets add lint to the inside of the grill. it annoys me. any advice on how to get it super clean and all black again?
snapper.fishes said:
Fingernail is thicker than paper. If he can't get it out with paper....Try using a needle I guess?
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Didn't see your post snapp but I guess I could try a needle. And yup sickered I'm having that problem too but I guess that's supposed to happen sooner or later unlike my original problem
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sickred said:
anyone have advice on how to clean the ear piece grill? putting my nexus 4 in my jeans and pockets add lint to the inside of the grill. it annoys me. any advice on how to get it super clean and all black again?
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Compressed air, but be careful not to blow it to closely.
As far as cleaning the screen itself, I use monster LCD/plasma TV cleaner I got at best buy. Its a little pricy but I've had it for 3 years and works wonders on all my phones, even on screen protectors.
I do not have any advice as far as what to do what the residue in the screen your talking about.
I have a screen protector on the screen and have been thinking about removing it lately. I had a convo with my neighbor who never uses a protector on his phones. He never has gotten a huge scratch on gorilla glass, and to be honest I rarely ever change my protector and prob sacrifice more clear screen using one vs not...
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YeezyMode said:
Hey guys,
So I've had the Nexus 4 for around two weeks now and it's too well designed of a device for me to resort to using screen protectors although I will be getting a thin case soon since it is quite slippery. I was just wondering what some of you do in order to maintain the condition of the device. I've simply been using a dry microfiber cloth - usually used on my eyeglasses - and rubbing gently until all the smudges are gone. This keeps it quite clean for 3-4 days but I don't know if that period will shorten with prolonged use. Any and all tips are appreciated, thanks in advance!
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Tech Putty and a microfiber cloth (any cheapo one will do).
sickred said:
anyone have advice on how to clean the ear piece grill? putting my nexus 4 in my jeans and pockets add lint to the inside of the grill. it annoys me. any advice on how to get it super clean and all black again?
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Get yourself a small camera lens puffer (like a rocket). Great for getting dust and lint out of nooks and crannys, but not enough force to damage anything nor any chemical agents (like in canned air).
my ear piece and mic is a bit dirty, I don't think air will get it out. can you use alcohol or something similar??
alpha-dog said:
my ear piece and mic is a bit dirty, I don't think air will get it out. can you use alcohol or something similar??
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Use a brush? Like a paintbrush or makeup brushes

[Q] Need some help with a super glue issue.

Well by error i get super glue over my phone, but at least is just a little and only over the metallic bezel, now i've searched about how to remove that and in almost sites said that the best thing is to use "acetone" or the thing to remove nail polish that has acetone, but acetone can damage some surface like plastic, so everyone know if the bezel is true metal? If you have any better ideas hope you can help me! I'll try to get some pictures..
Hi
rskyline said:
Well by error i get super glue over my phone, but at least is just a little and only over the metallic bezel, now i've searched about how to remove that and in almost sites said that the best thing is to use "acetone" or the thing to remove nail polish that has acetone, but acetone can damage some surface like plastic, so everyone know if the bezel is true metal? If you have any better ideas hope you can help me! I'll try to get some pictures..
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I wouldn't use acetone, that will cause more damage.
Simply leave it, the action of touching it and usin the phone should remove it. To speed things up, when you clean your screen use a microfibre cloth slightly dampened with a soap solution (some washing up liquid and water) and make sure you clean the area with the super glue, it will disappear given a bit of time. However it may leave behind some marks in the chrome effect, but hopefully not.
Regards
Phil
Try to "peel" it off. It should go eventually.
If you want to use acetone put a veeeery small amount on an cotton bud and try to minimize the exposure of the phone to it. Just gently wipe the super glue affected area. Also have a clean cloth at hand. One the super glue has softened, wipe it clean fast
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Try to "peel" it off. It should go eventually.
If you want to use acetone put a veeeery small amount on an cotton bud and try to minimize the exposure of the phone to it. Just gently wipe the super glue affected area. Also have a clean cloth at hand. One the super glue has softened, wipe it clean fast
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I think about exactly the same you stated, but i was waiting that someone can help me out here. Btw do you guys think that even on that metalic bezel, acetone could damage it?
Superglue will wear off. Pick it at it with your fingernail for a few days. Seriously.
estallings15 said:
Superglue will wear off. Pick it at it with your fingernail for a few days. Seriously.
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The thing is that i use it with a Case lol, so is better to have it naked that my fingers get it off by normal use?
rskyline said:
The thing is that i use it with a Case lol, so is better to have it naked that my fingers get it off by normal use?
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Take off the case at home?

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