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HD2's display indeed covered with glass, and it's very scratch-resistant (video)

Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
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Wow, now that's hard glass...no screen saver needed for me.

I felt literally sick after watching that

Waouh ! no screen protector for me too !

Yikes, but boy are those camera pictures crap, why did they put that pile of ****e in it. What a let down.

Finally
vangrieg said:
Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
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I was keeping asking this question in all forums and finally you brought me THE answer in video...
Thanks so much
Watta device

you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
I guarantee you however hard it is, there will be marks on that screen, even if superficial.

diablous said:
you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
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No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...

DocteurN said:
No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
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Personally i'm seeing a smudge over where he was scratching, without cleaning the screen no conclusive information can be taken from this.

Well, he says there are no scratches left, for what it's worth. I would trust his opinion in this case rather than impressions from the video.

well even if their was scratches on teh scree from SISSORS it is still impressive. i mena come on, the guy was trying to scratch the screen and it diddnt.
what it doesnt show on the video is the amount of pressure he applied though.

I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.

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I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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agreed, i think the point behind the entire "scratch proof" is to prove that placing it in your pocket without a screen protector will not have it coming out looking like a touch HD 1 This is great news in my humble opinion!!

not sure what is so bad of putting a screen protector, really? I won't take a risk at all to have a permanent scratch on my device!

Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.

that was stressful watchin that The poor TD2

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Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
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agree 100% with u, man i loved those iPhone screens, i could care less about the multi touch, i mean great, but if my HD 1 would have that screen, i'd be more than happy using it for a good more couple of months!

Really impressive, thanks for sharing

Ah c'mon! Some of you guys arguing about whether it scratched with scissors, ffs a car windscreen will scratch with scissors!! It very scratch resistant, i'm very impressed. Christ I wouldn't be surprised if some of you started complaining it's not dishwasher proof, jeez...

vangrieg said:
Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart. Unless you are used to eating babies for breakfast you may be better off not watching this brutal torture video. Here's a quick test to check if you're ready:
1. Do you plan to start using an electric vehicle to help stop global warming?
2. Do you consider your personal contribution to the cause of Free Tibet insufficient?
3. Did you ever believe a politician?
If you answer "yes" to any of the questions above, this thread might be better for you.
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it seems like not a reliable test to me, the reviewers seems using light pressure doing the test. And I really don't believe that any phone in the market can be really scratch resistant. Why taking the risk. In real world usages, there are many things can scratch glass surface very easily, and why leave some permanent scratches to the expensive device? What is so wrong with a screen protector?

Best way to clean HD2 screen?

Whats the best way to clean the hd2 screen? Is spraying a bit of window cleaner safe?

I use my forearm, it's nice and hairy and makes it look brand new

A clean dry cloth does the job, no need to use product and I would avoid water anyways... Just rub it with a clean dry cloth and watch the screen shine like the day you unboxed it

I wouldn't spray anything on the screen; I use a "Spontex" microfibre glass cleaning cloth. It's very soft and buffs up the screen in seconds leaving no fibres behind. They cost about three quid in tescos and also do my specs!

I use the inside of my t-shirt lol... or if its a bit greasy from the side of my face I'll breathe on the screen first to give it a tiny bit of moisture and then use the inside of my t-shirt... works very well

I rub it on my trousers, shirt, jumper, t-shirt, boxers... whatever's easiest at the time. I do have a glasses cleaner at my computer desk and tend to use that when I'm sat there. That gets great results.

Plus 1 for the micro fibre cloths. Absolutely amazing results, albeit they feel a bit strange in your hands (the micro fibre cloths, that is).
WB

Never use liquids to clean the screen as it may intrude around the edge (a strong breath is best)
The screen on the HD2 is very duarble so the inside of a Tshirt is excellent and very handy if you are dressed (always make sure there is no grit/sand)
and never to be using scrotum, because to catch hair can be very painfull and maybe also hygene problems

rumpleforeskin said:
Never use liquids to clean the screen as it may intrude around the edge (a strong breath is best)
The screen on the HD2 is very duarble so the inside of a Tshirt is excellent and very handy if you are dressed (always make sure there is no grit/sand)
and never to be using scrotum, because to catch hair can be very painfull and maybe also hygene problems
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Thanks for that. I will stop...

I use lens/optical cleaning cloth... Makes the screen shine like new ;-)

laserviking said:
I use my forearm, it's nice and hairy and makes it look brand new
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- You'r Funny

Lol @ laserviking
I dont own a hd2 but i carry a micro fibre cloth that came with my plasma tv i hace the nexus one

Another vote for micro-fibre cloths. I usually use the one I got from Specsavers to clean my glasses with. The advantage of this over clothing is not just that it's softer (and thus guaranteed not to scratch) but that it is far better at absorbing grease, which means the screen ends up completely free from finger-prints. Using your shirt tends to spread the grease around rather than removing it.

I use the screen cleaning cloth that came with my laptop (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 3650).
It is amazing and fast, I clean the screen in 4-5 seconds and it looks new and shiny
P.S. Do not use any cleaning products or water, just a dry cloth.

hey guys after cleaning my screen with a watery sheet for glasses and not the for the first time - I got a strange problem:
my fingers don´t slide smooth anymore on the screen, it feels like they are braking and slowed down because of this dry screen.also doing multitouch zooming one handed is a problem now!
would be gratefull for any tips!

murderdollpf said:
hey guys after cleaning my screen with a watery sheet for glasses and not the for the first time - I got a strange problem:
my fingers don´t slide smooth anymore on the screen, it feels like they are braking and slowed down because of this dry screen.also doing multitouch zooming one handed is a problem now!
would be gratefull for any tips!
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The effect will wear off after you use the phone for a little while, it's probably the substance is creating a dry effect lool. And I recommend micro-fibre cleaning cloths, your shiny HD2 will catch everyone's eye in the market!
Oh wait, don't get mugged though Spraying some window cleaning liquid might go into the device through the gaps at the side or through the hardware buttons, causing unwanted problems. Good luck cleaning xD

1. get a shirt
2. rub your HD2 on it
3. ????
4. profit!

after i got my hd2 i used a screen protector to avoid scratches and i clean it so easy just rubbing it in my shirt and thats it, but guys how to clean the edges and the speaker and buttons parts ?

all this method of cleaning the screen is with consideration that u guys have a screen protector on right?
other then the microfiber method, all other method is scratch inducing and sooner or later a scratch will appear on the screen..

laserviking said:
I use my forearm, it's nice and hairy and makes it look brand new
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amazing!!!
*tries*

OK. How fragile is the screen, really?

Hello everyone.
I got my HD2 a couple of weeks ago and as usual with new toys, am still taking some extra care with it. I had a Touch HD before that withstood quite a few bumps and two small drops. I saw people carying iPhones in pants pockets, back and front. Given that HD2 screen is significantly larger, how fragile is it, really? I usually carry my phones in jacket pocket, screen towards the body, without any case or sleeve. Do I need to take so much care for it or is it actually more resilient than it seems? Yes, I've seen the threads with broken screens. Anything can break, given enough force.
Any serious feedback is welcomed. Thanks.
Cheers, R

Well I have had mine since it was released in the UK and have had it in my right hand side front pocket in my jeans/trousers etc, sat on floors etc and all sorts and nothing has ever happened to it at all. Its a pretty tough screen I think, as long as when its in you pocket its not at an odd angle, I cant see any problems keeping it in there. I certainly have no problems.

Scratch test
There is a YouTube video of a scratch test of the screen of an HD2, its in foreign but gives a good idea of its screen tolerances (those of a nervous disposition may wish to look away towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s

Hmm I can only speak for myself and my HD2... but my screen has 2 (really small) scratches..
I think these are from a keychain or maybe a lighter in my pocket. I don't really know where the came from - but not from dropping it.
I would recommend to use a (thin - not that thick vikuti) foil to protect it against scratches.
--> Question: What would you recomment regarding a foil to cover the screen? I bought 1 Vikuti foil and really disliked it - it is sooo thick
Edit: I think the knife in the video would be able to scratch the screen... only a matter of right angle an pressure

I dropped mine on new years eve - drunk and the only thing i noticed the following day was that i had lost the backplate lol
Someone on here very kindly gave me a replacement.
Other than that - no scratches so far

Had mine three weeks, using front trouser pocket though I am very conscious of checking the pocket for keys etc first.
I have a full body invisibleSHIELD skin, and i'm extremely happy with it.
I've knocked it a few times on the edge of tables and chairs, once on the metal hand grip on a bus seat, and theres not a mark on it anywhere.

I have a screen protector that covers the entire screen, and carry the phone in my pants pocket in the leather case that came with the phone (I'm waiting on a holster from eBay).
The screen is in perfect condition, however, I did scuff the corner of the HD2 by dropping it (in its leather case) as I went to put it in my pocket coming out of a movie theatre...dropped onto cement.
: /

I use a screen protector and have a very nice silicone case for it that fits very snug, but I'm just being careful.
I believe that common sense is enough to keep this device from being damaged. As you can see from the linked video above, the screen is very resiliant, but it's not scratchproof. Also, why on earth anyone would put it in the back pocket of their trousers and sit down is totally beyone me, but people have done it (and probably still do), but they end up on here asking how to fix their damaged screen. (My advice to them is to hook up a flex capacitor to their car, drive at 88mph, go back in time to before they broke it and slap themselves round the face and say "STOP BEING SILLY!!!")
It's tough, but not unbreakable. Just treat it with respect, look after it sensibly, and DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR BACK TROUSER POCKET OR FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
As the meerkats say... simples
(I hate those adverts, but I do like Back To The Future )

johncmolyneux said:
FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?

Spike15 said:
Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>

johncmolyneux said:
lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.

Spike15 said:
Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
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Yes, and even moreso if you have a hernia! Good to see that xda is also responsible for good health advice too

I can't wait for mine to arrive next week. I can tell you from experience that the IPHONE has cracked 3 times in pocket when I put too much pressure. Apple does replace them on a regular basis. They allow for what they call a hairline. If it spiders they won't replace it but a hairline is within their tolerance and is common enough for them to replace it without question. That is how I ended up with a new replacement recently. I wasn't using the phone much but my HD battery died on site so I put the time into the IPHONE to use it. I squatted with the IPHONE in backpocket and CRACK. I probably should check my beltline while I am at it..
They replaced it and that worked out anyways as I am going to sell it. Keep my HD and Bold as backup.
The glass looks pretty solid and as many people reported it a good solid piece of hardware.

i keep mine in the case it comes with when i am carrying it around... any pocket really.
i just make sure i dont sit on it! lol
the screen itself is extremely resilient when it is out and in use.
I leave mine lying around all of the time out of the case and it still looks brand new.
I dont use any screen protector.

screen strength
being a kapasitive screen it uses a propper glass cover instead of ****ty plexi glass or resistive glass as most phones use, this naturally gives it a more scratch proof serface but makes it less resilient to actually breaking. like one guy said it all has to do with angle and preshure.. and abit of bad luck when it comes to screen protection i recomend invisiShield. they are nice and thin, VERY clear plastic so it doesnt disturb teh screen quality. and last but not least, the fabric its made of is teh same as teh stuff that they use to cover helicopter rotor blades with, so it comes with a 30 year waranty.

Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R

Impunitus said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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I had the same fear with its screen .. i posted a poll on the screen
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618978

Htc Leo Build quality? (No case)

Yeah i just got my HTC HD2 the other day and so far ive been using the silicone case that comes with it..what ive noticed is that the phone feels so much better in hand without the case and wayy less bulky.
.my question to you guys is the build quality well enough to just put in my pocket and not scratch it. i know the battery cover is metal so no worries there but what about the soft coating on top and bottom. ?..
opinions from any of you that have not used a case? how is the condition of your hd2?
thanks.

ive had mine a week now, no case, in and out of pockets/phone holders and ive even dropped it twice (slippery bastid!)
not a scratch/scuff/mark other than pesky fingerprints!
im very impressed

There is another thread here showing a youtube video of a guy using keys, and box cutter on the screen with no damage.

StarLog said:
There is another thread here showing a youtube video of a guy using keys, and box cutter on the screen with no damage.
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yeah ive seen that video but im wondering about the body like the back for example.

unleashed12 said:
Yeah i just got my HTC HD2 the other day and so far ive been using the silicone case that comes with it..what ive noticed is that the phone feels so much better in hand without the case and wayy less bulky.
.my question to you guys is the build quality well enough to just put in my pocket and not scratch it. i know the battery cover is metal so no worries there but what about the soft coating on top and bottom. ?..
opinions from any of you that have not used a case? how is the condition of your hd2?
thanks.
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using it for 4 months now, pretty heavy usage, geocaching, outdoors, pockets, and so on, and i am betting that you would say it is a new phone if you see it .
absolutely no signs of wear. for sure after few years of noka nseries, this is real delight.

unleashed12 said:
yeah ive seen that video but im wondering about the body like the back for example.
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I am interested to know how durable is the rubbery material and the rigid camera bezel under these conditions. Please share your experience. Does it scratch? Dent? Deep scratch/dent? Tiny hairline scratch?
1) Dropped
2) Carelessly placing it on the table or rough surface
3) Bumped it walking into something
4) Dropped it from your seat
5) Using it with the ring still on your finger next to the camera bezel?
Just how durable is this HD2's build material?

I personally agree with the reviewers about the build quality being just awesome. HD2 users can confidently use the phone without a case with ease as the metal n rubber coating pretty much wont get scratched / damaged easily. but.. one thing ppl have been talking bout is the glass screen cracking. i've dropped it once but so far so good, no scratches / cracks at all. but overall i would still say, really really good build quality.

I never had any screenprotectors or any screen protecting cases. Although I use it a bit without care (put the phone in a pocket without caring to much if there are any "scratchers" in it) I haven't noticed any scratch on my screen yet.
But I do have a silicon jacket! Not to protect the casing, but to protect the screen. I have seen way too many pictures of HD2's with a broken screen. And the screen was always broken in one of the corners. The silicon case (same model as shipped with the tmous HD2) definitely protects the corners of the screen when the HD2 drops. (tested )
FYI I have the HD2 for 5 months now

StarLog said:
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it is serious bull****, as leo's screen CAN be scratched. glass is covered with some plastic layer and just a tiny little bit of sand in Your pocket can do the damage.

I recall reading on one thread about somebody using a silicone cover on their hd2 and when they took it off it peeled the covering from the metal back plate so beware of certain silicone covers !!
Otherwise good solid build quality !! compared to iPhone
how many "no service" "cracked screen""missing button" "no sound"
"battery completely dead" iPhones will be listed on ebay today ? lol.

I wouldn't dream of using my HD2 without the leather case it came with, all other HTC phones I have had (four of them) I have taken them out of the box and put them right into my pocket.
But the HD2 is too nice and valuable to me to let it get tattered, I gently place it on tables just in case the silver cutting on the camera gets dented, in fact, 99 times out of 100 I place it on the case.
But then again I might just be overly anal about keeping it prestine.

StarLog said:
There is another thread here showing a youtube video of a guy using keys, and box cutter on the screen with no damage.
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Out of nowhere i got two scratches on my screen yesterday. Don't ask how..still in mourning...

How durable is our HD2?

Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!

Hey, i droped it many times and nothing happens.
Sometimes from 150 cm and a bit more and less.

I have thrown my Diamond down the street many times on a night out, but I would never want to drop my HD2 outside of a case, the entire front of the phone is glass, so you may get lucky a couple of times you may not. I wouldn't want to take the chance, it's expensive to replace.

I've dropped my HD2 a few times, most recent was when my mate rugby tackled me on a night out and broke my hand in the process, the HD2 survived almost unscathed due to it being in its case, although there is now a tiny chip on the front-facing bezel above the headphone socket where it meets the glass.
I never bothered with a screen protector and the screen looks as good as new and I've had mine since Nov2009. It's a tough little phone. As long as you keep it in its case when its not being used you will be fine.

hardik119 said:
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
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If you're that clumsy, I'd suggest you keep it in it's case Hardik119 as Murphys law says you'll drop it as soon as you take that cover off?

Hulmeman said:
If you're that clumsy, I'd suggest you keep it in it's case Hardik119 as Murphys law says you'll drop it as soon as you take that cover off?
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hehe, i can see tomorrows post already
'so last night i fumbled whilst taking the case off and the phone exploded into 900 pieces'

hardik119 said:
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
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It's great, I dropped it several times from 0.5m-1.0m and it's working perfectly ATM.

Had mine for 9 months now, never put a silicon case or it or screen protector. Only use the leather-ish case that came with it, have dropped my HD2 loads of times. I am litterally the worst person with phones, i had four new phones in a 2 year contract before this because i am so clumbsy, including the kaiser and tp2. HD2 is far more resilient and mine has not noticable marks on it.
Maybe i'm lucky with this phone, but i have seen videos of hd2 and iphone being pushed together screen to screen and the iphone breaks way earlier and considering the screen is that much smaller more pressure would be technically be being applied to the HD2.
Dust in your HD2's USB port is more likely to break your phone than dropping it.

The screen is gorilla glass, check out youtube for some videos of guys trying to break or scratch it, not easy! As for the case, I dropped it a couple of times on asphalt, and while the case looked fine, there is a rubbery edging around the screen that did get gouged. You can't really tell by looking, but you can feel it.

Such a classy device needs to be treated elegantly!!
A screen protector is a must have.
And to show off with ur sexy phone use a OEM leather pouch (slim and rich looking) that can be bought from ebay with a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Leather-pou...389855?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415267839f

for such a big screen with lots of glass, its pretty tough, im a bit clumsy with phones, like some, i dropped by LG BL40, good job, it was ****e, but screen shatterd, chucked it in the bin and got this...always used the pouch, but had it out playing music, a broom(yes a broom) fell over and i have a c shaped scratch, drives me mad...but did scratch easier i thought..the case marks pretty easy to. But for such a large phone, thumbs up.

sevoflurane said:
Such a classy device needs to be treated elegantly!!
A screen protector is a must have.
And to show off with ur sexy phone use a OEM leather pouch (slim and rich looking) that can be bought from ebay with a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Leather-pou...389855?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415267839f
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not sure I agree with the screen protector. I can never keep one on the phone, it will be on for a couple of months, then start annoying me and I take it off. The screen is very scratch resistant and I don't tend to drop phones. It stays in it's bodyglove kickstand case (which adds a little lip to the edges) and goes in a leather beltclip case.

hardik119 said:
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it???
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The screen is very durable. Over the 9 months I've owned my HD2 the screen hasn't had one scratch on it despite no screen protector.
Drop it and one of two things will happen: nothing or total destruction of the screen.
Unfortunately, after 9 months of being careful I recently dropped my phone onto concrete from about 2 feet and the screen is totalled
The problem lies with the thinness of the bezel where it meets the screen (it deforms easily) and the tight tolerances of the join between the bezel and glass.
The combination is deadly and any design engineer ought to have noticed that at pre-production.
Someone at HTC sacrificed how the phone felt in the hand to how the glass screen reacts to side on pressure as a result of the bezel deforming on impact.
I'd be happy to have a chunkier bezel with just a few more mm of metal on the bezel if it prevents deformation on impact.
The phone is insured but I'll probably get reamed at policy renewal time next year.

the hd2 is durable as far as drops go (i don't use a case) - i've dropped mine twice, once on a wooden floor from about 5 ft up,no damage, and once onto concrete from the same height,only damage a very tiny dent/scratch on the corner of the case where it hit the street.
however, do NOT believe the bull**** about the screen being super scratch resistant !! after only two weeks of GENTLE use,and only being kept in my back pocket with nothing else,there was a one inch scratch across the front. i know,i saw the videos as well, but the fact remains. it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR IMMEDIATELY !!!!

Neither case nor screen protector has (or will) ever touched the perfect curves of my hd2. Furthermore, it has seen a heavy ammount of abuse.
As far as dropping it goes... I wouldn't reccomend it. Mine has survived chest high (I'm 6'4") drops on to concrete (landing screen first) and not broken. However, many a sad story has been told by users with falls from lesser heights. The unlucky folks notwithstanding, I have to say that the screen is certainly well-made. In the 6+ months I've owned it, the screen remains conspicuously scratch-free. It should be noted that I often take out my car keys and and aggressively assault the screen with them (to the horror of onlookers). I also regularly lay my device down face-first. Still can't seem to find a single scratch.
As previously mentioned, I do not have or use a case of any kind. I keep my phone on me at all times in my front pocket (screen facing my leg). This includes when I am at work. I work... at a warehouse. Which means my hd2 gets to enjoy pallets, boxes, and various other blunt-force trauma slamming against it in my pocket. Here's what I have found.
The parts that are NOT so tough:
1) Battery cover.
I have noticeable scratches and marks on the battery cover. There is a thin coating on it that will flake off after a certain ammount of abuse.
2) The flash.
My led flash was dislodged slightly (some time while at work) and pressed up against the vibration motor. Although it was easy enough to fix by popping the phone open and remounting it.
The parts that ARE tough:
So far... everything else.

jamima69 said:
it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
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No. It really doesn't. Whatever happend to your phone to cause a scratch is unfortunate... but it is the exception, not the rule. When I am unable to INTENTIONALLY scratch something, aforementioned "thing" can not be considered "easily scratchable".

I dropped mine from 4-5 feet high a few times (a couple onto concrete) and it was fine.
Then yesterday I dropped it from 2 feet high onto a wood floor and the screen was totally destroyed. Must have just hit at the right (wrong) angle...
Also, my screen has several scratches on it, so saying it is EXTREMELY scratch resistant is BS. However, now that my screen is destroyed anyway, I tried scratching it with a key, and knife, a pushpin, and a couple other things (haven't tried my wife's diamond ring, heh) and cannot for the life of me scratch it. But it DID get scratched somehow... and one of them was there after only a few days of use.

jamima69 said:
however, do NOT believe the bull**** about the screen being super scratch resistant !! after only two weeks of GENTLE use,and only being kept in my back pocket with nothing else,there was a one inch scratch across the front. i know,i saw the videos as well, but the fact remains. it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
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the one inch scratch on your HD2 is very unfortunate, but does not mean at all that it scratches "pretty damn easy". At this point I totally disagree. I have my HD2 now for more than 1 year and I'm a heavy user, but after all this time there is not one single scratch to detect on the screen. I must say though, that I always have my HD2 in a leather belt case when not in use, but never used a screen protector on my HD2.
So in conclusion: the HD2 does not scratch easlly at all, but you have just been unfortunate and very unlucky.
regards, Kuzibri

I've recently replaced the screen in my HD2 because the old one had sustained some serious damage through an unfortunate encounter with asphalt. The device can handle some serious punishment, but the screen can crack quite easily when dropped just the wrong way. I've heard the screen can handle 400 newton of force which is quite a lot, but a 1 meter drop and slide across asphalt was too much.
Also, the screen is almost scratch-free except for sand! Sand can scratch the screen easily (had it in my pocket when working on the beach) so use a screenprotector when in a sandy environment.

While the phone is durable, it is always a good idea to to have the phone in a gell case to keep it from getting mangled when dropped. having owned several touch phones I have not found a need for a screen protector as I do not put my phone face down or in a pocket with other things...