Someone knows if you have got 1Gb ROM hidden the hd2? or are you working for finding the "hidden ROM"?(if the phone has got it). Sorry for my english
Greetings yo all
adrianfly said:
Someone knows if you have got 1Gb ROM hidden the hd2? or are you working for finding the "hidden ROM"?(if the phone has got it). Sorry for my english
Greetings yo all
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That's almost like asking: "anyone found god somewhere?"
appelflap said:
That's almost like asking: "anyone found god somewhere?"
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hehehe made my day. But to answer the original poster, no.
Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.
We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)
Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)
Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.
Its not Impossible guys.
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Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.
We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)
Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)
Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.
Its not Impossible guys.
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While I am loath to think that HTC would do something like this, Intel does it all the time...
...so it's not unheard of...
Spike15 said:
While I am loath to think that HTC would do something like this, Intel does it all the time...
...so it's not unheard of...
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There is nothing loathsome about it, HTC published the specs and we paid the money, it isn't like they delivered an inferior product to what they claimed.
In fact... they gave us more for the price we paid and if it is actually 1GB of ROM... well oh boy, triple booting WM6.6, Android and Maemo anyone?
i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange. Surely it took them more time and resources to try and hide that extra 128mb ram instead of just releasing it with its full compliment.
Maybe t-mobile usa made an agreement with HTC just prior to the original relase in the eu so they could have what appears to be a superior unit.
At that point, instead of changing the manufacturing process and parts (thus costing them more money to reorder different nand chips) they just software crippled the EU version so the usa Model looked better on release.
The mind boggles lol!
@Beastage - I like the way you think ;-) im just holding out patiently for the awesome devs here to crack the hard ole task of booting Anroid onto the HD2 (fingers crossed when the HTC Bravo **im pretty sure it was the bravo at least lol** is released, someone will rip the rom from that and possibly port it over, seein as the bravo appears to basically be a reworked HD2 eh. 0_0 )
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There is nothing loathsome about it, HTC published the specs and we paid the money, it isn't like they delivered an inferior product to what they claimed.
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I guess you're an uneducated bumpkin who thinks "loath" and "loathe" have the same meaning.
I said: "[...] I am loath to think that HTC would [...]".
What this merely meant was that I was reluctant to think that HTC would put hardware in a device, and then lock the use of said hardware out in software, due to the fact I don't like this practice.
I have no problems with the specs I paid for, nor do I have a problem with the specs changing for the T-Mobile HD2, the only problem I have is with them advertising one set of specs, delivering a device with hardware in excess of the specs, and then making the software make the hardware appear to be in-line with the advertised specs.
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i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange. Surely it took them more time and resources to try and hide that extra 128mb ram instead of just releasing it with its full compliment.
Maybe t-mobile usa made an agreement with HTC just prior to the original relase in the eu so they could have what appears to be a superior unit.
At that point, instead of changing the manufacturing process and parts (thus costing them more money to reorder different nand chips) they just software crippled the EU version so the usa Model looked better on release.
The mind boggles lol!
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"Crippling" implies it was intentionally... they may just have run out of development time for the product and needed to release it without the additional memory address registers for the full RAM to be utilised. Between the Euro launch and USA launch they are releasing new firmware and radio's and because of this we are able to access the additional RAM (2.02 ROM and 2.06 Radio)
Alternatively maybe they were having confliction somewhere when the extra RAM was addressed so they chose to limit it to a stable amount to make sure the HD2 release went on time in Europe/Asia... and therefore I suppose that could be classed as crippling the device but also making it stable.
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Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.
We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)
Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)
Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.
Its not Impossible guys.
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I didn't intend to shot the OP down. I think it's a rather metaphysical question at the moment. But at this point I want to declare myself agnostic. I don't see the point of not asking questions about the hidden ghost in our machines, but I don't embrase them either.
I'm happy with my device as it is... but, on the other hand, the more the better of cause
It's a rather philosophical question about the attitude towards technology. I like Heideggers standpoint on this: we should say yes and no to it (lol, speaking of off-topic reactions...)
im deffinatley with you on that one appleflap ;-)
the more i can squeeze out of this device the better ;-)
fingers crossed with whats going on, it seems to be a good year for the hd2!
1: 576 ram instead of 448
2: possible 1gb rom instead of 512
3: full n spec wireless
4: possible fm transmitter
5: android at some point
6: WM 7
God it feels like christmas came early lol
if i were htc executive i will talk to ms whether 512mb ram enough for wm7 or not. then ms will say to me wm7 needs 1gb ram . so htc please make device to support ms coz i want many peop;e to use my products. hows this? u think htc executive is stupid?
koong32 said:
if i were htc executive i will talk to ms whether 512mb ram enough for wm7 or not. then ms will say to me wm7 needs 1gb ram . so htc please make device to support ms coz i want many peop;e to use my products. hows this? u think htc executive is stupid?
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No, I don't think "htc executive" is stupid, but that's not how business works. They'd be more likely to sell us something now that will not run WM7, so that we have to buy something else at the end of the year that will support it. Don't forget, by the time WM7 comes out the HD2 will have been out for about a year. If there is 1GB of ROM there (and I really, really don't think there is, but would love to be wrong), I seriously doubt it's got anything to do with WM7.
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No, I don't think "htc executive" is stupid, but that's not how business works. They'd be more likely to sell us something now that will not run WM7, so that we have to buy something else at the end of the year that will support it. Don't forget, by the time WM7 comes out the HD2 will have been out for about a year. If there is 1GB of ROM there (and I really, really don't think there is, but would love to be wrong), I seriously doubt it's got anything to do with WM7.
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But then again, htc could not be stupid in another way. Maybe their strategy is as follows: bring a powerful device on the market (most powerful at the current moment) and reveal more horsepower when the competitors are coming with their answers. I think that is marketing strategy that could really work. Especially when you've created a broad user-base for a particular device.
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i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange.
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That might be far-fetched, but *could* have to do with taxing. In certain countries in Europe, like mine, digital devices are taxed on the amount of memory they hold. The tax amount is pretty high as well, and since this was introduced the majority of MP3 players and phones have gone the "small onboard memory with memory card slot" way, sometimes even bundling them with a memory card to get around the tax...
So this could be related, keeping the amount of memory under X allowing to either avoid the tax in the said countries, or at least stay below a certain tax level...
When they introduced it, it more or less killed the home set-top DVD recorders with HDD, as for example the price for a 250GB model that would cost $300 (before tax) was taxed an insane extra $100...
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But then again, htc could not be stupid in another way. Maybe their strategy is as follows: bring a powerful device on the market (most powerful at the current moment) and reveal more horsepower when the competitors are coming with their answers. I think that is marketing strategy that could really work. Especially when you've created a broad user-base for a particular device.
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These are all relevant arguments, and they all have up-sides and down-sides. For example, how unhappy would you be if after having a HD2 for say 8 months, HTC turn round and say "Here... run this. It will double your ROM size." Although you'd be grateful, I bet you'd be annoyed too, remembering all those times you were nearly out of storage space, insisting on not installing marketplace apps and having to manually move caches to your storage card!
Let's simply agree that business decisions very rarely make sense to the people they actually affect.
u all know, that there will be 2 versions of the WM7.. one business and one multimedia.. i think, when the WM7 comes out, then we get just the business bcs. it will not need so many space, and the 1GB version gets the multimedia.. we will see..
PS: when u look on the PSP u see.. when it came out, the CPU was?? and now?
some of you keep saying that the EU models shipped with the hidden ram that the usa version has, does this mean that the asian versions do not have the extra ram hidden away?
thanks
DTDK said:
some of you keep saying that the EU models shipped with the hidden ram that the usa version has, does this mean that the asian versions do not have the extra ram hidden away?
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it has the hidden ram are in hd2 worldwide version and it was first discovered in an asian hd2 just flash the proper radio and hav fun
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how can you make a update that cant be put on the first android phone (that all the devs have)..devs couldnt test their roms..so they should come out with a 2.0 rom for dream and magic...soon after the droid release
or they could do it the smart business way and use 2.0 as a marketing tool for the droid and release the source after the hubbub has died down. wait, thats what they ARE doing.
remember that these people are in BUSINESS. money talks.
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how can you make a update that cant be put on the first android phone (that all the devs have)..devs couldnt test their roms..so they should come out with a 2.0 rom for dream and magic...soon after the droid release
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Um...what?
You realize that Google, HTC and T-mobile don't give a **** about ROM devs, right? They don't, and they have no reason to. They only care about selling phones...
It's due to size limitations, cupcake and donut only just fit in the G1's ROM (internal memory/NAND). Here's a full explanation. The Magic doesn't come in to it. It has 512mb ROM, but the G1 only has 256mb.
Please understand that this is about *physical* limitations, it's not because the G1 is "old", the ROM just isn't big enough.
the 20$ developer fee and 30% of every sale on the market go to someone....
granted its nothing big enough to make companies like google drool yet, but from what i can tell, its only increseing....
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Um...what?
You realize that Google, HTC and T-mobile don't give a **** about ROM devs, right? They don't, and they have no reason to. They only care about selling phones...
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This may be true, but they care very much about application developers. Without them the product is not going anywhere. Google will very likely either make a 2.0 ROM available for the G1 (maybe without all features) or release a new development phone. Of course now that the hardware market is showing traction they might decide that there is no need for a development phone any longer.
I hope a GSM Droid becomes the ADP2. I'm debating whether to buy the Droid on launch or try to wait for an ADP2 announcement.
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This may be true, but they care very much about application developers. Without them the product is not going anywhere. Google will very likely either make a 2.0 ROM available for the G1 (maybe without all features) or release a new development phone. Of course now that the hardware market is showing traction they might decide that there is no need for a development phone any longer.
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Yes, you're right, that's something I had overlooked, but isn't the ION essentially the ADP2? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it have an engeneering SPL? My point is it has the nand space for 2.0...
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Yes, you're right, that's something I had overlooked, but isn't the ION essentially the ADP2? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it have an engeneering SPL? My point is it has the nand space for 2.0...
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Except that it was a limited build for attendees of some event and it is NOT available for general developer consumption....
Have you ever thought to g1 upgrade, the cpu replaced 1ghz, put all the rom and ram replaced 512mb. Rom the time that the production of not so many limitations, and is not it?
If anyone knows how to upgrade, we share ah. Let g1 youth forever in.
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how is that even possible?
yoshitoshi said:
how is that even possible?
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i'm sure it's possible.
mind you, the equipment required to do such an upgrade would mean you could probably build your own phone from scratch anyway.
yeaa that would be awesome, snapdragon dream lol. a nexus wif a keyboard lolzz
DIY a Gphone?
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i'm sure it's possible.
mind you, the equipment required to do such an upgrade would mean you could probably build your own phone from scratch anyway.
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I seriously think its a long shot. I dont think a huge group of engineers at HTC with the detailed hardware knowledge of the board, the pinmuxes, clocks etc can do it in a months time. If you want to try it, sure, go ahead.
Very possible. I was reading a thread the other day about restoring a bricked phone from the hardware pov. Still not possible, but the motherboard is mapped. However, you can't just go buy phone RAM or a new processor. Also say HTC made a phone just like the g1 except with 3 gigs of RAM, I doubt that RAM would be compatible with the g1. I hope that's what this thread is about. 3:31 A.M. ftw?
as an electrical engineering student
yes its possible
no its not feasible to do it efficiently enough to finish within ..say... 5 years by yourself
If you want to make a living of repairing phones and other electronics, it's a good place to start , even if it's very hard thing to do... If you think you will save money , you wont. The MB of the dream is pretty small and it will be hard to work on but not impossible.
looktall said:
i'm sure it's possible.
mind you, the equipment required to do such an upgrade would mean you could probably build your own phone from scratch anyway.
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Wouldnt that mean the ROMS need to change also? That would also be the hardest part, right? Not an engineering student but I am sure it is not as simple as it sounds.
I am sure there would be willing donors for such an attempt to stock RAM chips and processors and do all the work. Even if it was a bundled package with a price tag on it, I am sure people would willingly pay for it. However, the more realistic option, I think, is to be contented with overclocking the processor, if that is made practically possible. Here's hoping for the best.
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Wouldnt that mean the ROMS need to change also? That would also be the hardest part, right? Not an engineering student but I am sure it is not as simple as it sounds.
I am sure there would be willing donors for such an attempt to stock RAM chips and processors and do all the work. Even if it was a bundled package with a price tag on it, I am sure people would willingly pay for it. However, the more realistic option, I think, is to be contented with overclocking the processor, if that is made practically possible. Here's hoping for the best.
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I say: You can better spent your time working lets say... 80 hours to buy a new device then spent 12.000 hours to upgrade a CPU, make new drivers to handle the CPU (the same counts for upgrading RAM).
But if you haven't got a job nor a life... feel free to try. It's not like a PC with swappable parts... It's all baked on 2 or 3 chips with techniques you can't find in your own living room (it's simply too small to soldering it yourself).
But that's just my opinion... feel free to try.
Sure, been conidered. Not sure the dream is ideal for it, but i'd love it if a company were to start designing with it in mind. Maybe something more meant as a dev prototype like the zii trinity but yeah. Hell, I remember first thing I did was start looking into hardwiring a 3.5 jack because I keep misplacing my adapters.
when i had an mda varia they discovered it was possible to change the ram chip for a larger one from another device, there was a company that woiuld do it for you, thoiugh it was expensive and to do it yourself required specilised soldering equipment to remove the old chip and fit the new one.
It could be possible usually its just easier and more cost efficient though to just get a new device.
i really wouldnt say this belongs in the development section - coz put bluntly - its just fantasy
i too am an electronic engineering student - and i have taken apart my spare G1
and from looking at it - it could be done in theory, but you would have one hell of a time desoldering, resoldering and reprogramming your phone
the equipment costs £1000s to do the job correctly and there is no guarantee that it would work
like - putting a core2duo into a pentium 2 board - not gonna work
pinouts, pinnumbers, pinspacing, chip size
too many things standing in the way
Hi.
Is there any info about HTC releasing official 6.5.3 update for Topaz?
I wouldn't be counting on it. Topaz came with 6.1 and they provided an upgrade to 6.5. Usually, one upgrade is about all you get.
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I wouldn't be counting on it. Topaz came with 6.1 and they provided an upgrade to 6.5. Usually, one upgrade is about all you get.
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hmm wondering about the pure getting 6.5.3 though .. it started with 6.5.1
BUT!!!!!! WinMo 7.... Just wait and you'll see
This information is more than intuition.......
I have no doubt that WM7 will be heavier than 6.5, which is already the limit for what the D2 can handle. So, maybe there will be some kind chef willing to cook it for D2, but will it be acceptable for every day use?
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I have no doubt that WM7 will be heavier than 6.5, which is already the limit for what the D2 can handle. So, maybe there will be some kind chef willing to cook it for D2, but will it be acceptable for every day use?
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I think the complete opposite. The iphone has set a very high bar. It works very smoothly and that too with a processor under 1 Ghz and no obscene amounts of RAM. The WinMo7 has to at the very least match it, if not beat it.
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I think the complete opposite. The iphone has set a very high bar. It works very smoothly and that too with a processor under 1 Ghz and no obscene amounts of RAM. The WinMo7 has to at the very least match it, if not beat it.
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This can be done pretty easily. They just have to go without multitasking functionality. But do you really want that?
I don't ever have Solitaire, Opera, File Explorer, and Word Mobile open at one time. It's a battery-powered mobile device with limited memory and a power-frugal processor.
Yes, I do want that. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I want to to that as well as the iPhone does it. Only I don't want it to come with a 2 year £40 per month contract, like the iPhone does
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This can be done pretty easily. They just have to go without multitasking functionality. But do you really want that?
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Very good point! I most certainly don't want that!
They could also make limited multitasking functionaly, I mean that they could limit the number of programs that can be opened at once, and when I bought my Topaz in the specifications it was clearly mentioned that I will get a free upgrade to WM7, so I think that we will have an official upgrade in the future.
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...when I bought my Topaz in the specifications it was clearly mentioned that I will get a free upgrade to WM7
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are you sure? never seen that in any advert. maybe orange did some marketing tricks. as everybody pointed out, HTC never releases 2 generations of ROMs for same device. anyway, by the time WM 7 will be out and stable, people will start looking at another bunch of devices to upgrade. I for sure am not going to keep my device longer than the warranty.
It could be a marketing thing.
i'm fairly sure windows 7 has defined hardware specs, and the TD2 comes nowhere near them. Of the current phones, only the HD2 does. And that would mean there would definitley be no WM7 on the TD2
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i'm fairly sure windows 7 has defined hardware specs, and the TD2 comes nowhere near them. Of the current phones, only the HD2 does. And that would mean there would definitley be no WM7 on the TD2
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I doubt that, I do think that TD2 will run WM7 just fine, you underestimate the power of the "tool" you're using
No Update
Its most unlikely there will be an official update to windows phone 7.
Hardware requirements (source HTC Russia) state the device has to have:
Demand TD2
•1Ghz processor NO
•3.6 inch WVGA display NO
•G-sensor and compas NO
•8GB internal memory NO
•5MP camera YES
So there will be no official update.
Problably it will be ported to our device by the community.
Mmmm...
I have to agree... if we get an official WM7 update for TD2, I'll gladly eat my device and post the video on YouTube for all to see! However, the spec requirement is high, but if anyone has noticed, Windows 7 uses far less resources than Vista. If it follows that WM7 will follow this trend, may be our 'old' devices will be able to handle the new OS?
I would imagine the chasis specs were seeing are not so much for the OS to run on, but so MS can go to developers, especially games developers and say to them that WM7 will be running on this hardware as a minimum so target your games for this.
Currently the WM6 devices are over a broad range fo processor speeds, memory, resoloutions and differing addons (GPS, Accelerometer, graphics chips, compass, capacitive screen) that it is impossible to get the kind of one program runs on all that you get in the iphone community.
You could cook WM7 to run on this hardware, but I can't see it going beyond proof of concept as a lot of the software will be pitched at higher resources and the lack of compass/capacative screen may hold back some feateures.
Besides, by the time it hits the streets... why would I want to still be using a TD2. I'll want a TD3 at that point ;-)
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It can already only run 32 processes at once, and a large amount of those are already taken.
I've questioned someone from HTC and he said that it hasn't been discussed if there will be future ROM development for WM7, so we will have to wait and see.
Lost the plot here, what about 6.5.3 official.....
I would like the ability to move the widgets around
UPDATE!! Looks like this was not true and there will be no WP7 for HD2 at all.
There is still hope, you can help deciphering & hacking WP7 image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
(if you really want WP7S on your beloved HD2, for me this whole new OS looks more like EPIC FAIL)
Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
We can only hope i suppose =/
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Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
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this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
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this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
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Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
Makes pretty good sense, actually. It fits with all the 'wait for MIX10' answers to questions about the HD2 right after the WP7 announcement in Barcelona.
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Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
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now it is better
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
May just be me but the WP7 posts are getting a little bit boring and shouldn't they be in there Windows Phone 7 Series forum? Rather than having multi threads on essentially the same things.
Plus we get to buy all our apps . . . again.
Let's hope for a port anyway, whether official or not...
I'd like to believe you, but the MS devs were raving about the emulator that comes with the Phone developer tools... I dunno. Seems iffy but the existence of an emulator does not preclude the HD2 from getting a 'MIX' build - after all, you need to have the emulator around for a variety of reasons, namely the HD2 won't be available forever
im also watching mix10 and as far as i remember i heared somthing like "all of you who will have an wp7s device at the end of the conference".
could be the special dev-phone, as some folks guess, but i think an hd2 rom is the easiest and the most logical solution.
So i "guess" its possible. and by the way, i excpected silverlight for mobile for months and now its there and i like it.
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
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lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
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So you already said on the 1st page...
Multitasking from the emulator itself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5889815
mazzarin said:
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
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Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
VisualD said:
Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
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these specifications are higher than hd2 specifications (impossible port)
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
XDA mark said:
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
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we are fu**ed (hd2 owners ) with these specifications ,no way we could get it nither officia nor leaked , most of the specifications are not included in hd2 ( camera button , direct x9 , 4 point multitouch ,etc )iam so sad and disapointed my new toy is fuc**n old now wtf. what a short aged device ,i will go for desire tomorrow inspite of the big loss in money
I am new to the HTC D2 and in reading all of the threads I dont understand the difference between the LEO and the D2 and someone please explain.
The T-Mobile HD2 is the Leo. Same phone,
Full Name for the device is HTC HD2 T8585 (HTC Leo 100)
The T-Mobile US HD2 is also known as the LEO1024, since it has a full gig of ROM memory. The Euro HD2 is known as just the Leo, or the LEO512, and obviously has half the memory. The US model is also just a tiny bit (1.5mm) longer, so cases and other accessories will fit one model or the other, but usually not both.
Most apps and such will work on either version, but you can NOT flash ROM's or Radios for the Euro model onto the US model, or you'll brick it.
thanks
thanks for the information
Is there an reason for this, meaning why do they have twice as much memory as the EU one?
lemonbarley said:
Is there an reason for this, meaning why do they have twice as much memory as the EU one?
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because t mo knew that it would cause extra media attention, and loads
of extra people would buy it simply cos they would perceive it to be "better", cos people are fickle, shallow and easily led. it made it "special".
my guess is they are regretting it, because its much easier to brick than the normal one, and putting into the hands of the afforementioned people will have generated a ton of warranty returns.(plus the stock tmous roms had several issues to begin with, which also caused returns and bad press)
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because t mo knew that it would cause extra media attention, and loads
of extra people would buy it simply cos they would perceive it to be "better", cos people are fickle, shallow and easily led. it made it "special".
my guess is they are regretting it, because its much easier to brick than the normal one, and putting into the hands of the afforementioned people will have generated a ton of warranty returns.(plus the stock tmous roms had several issues to begin with, which also caused returns and bad press)
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LOL that's sam's gentle way of saying that 'mericans are suckers for "mor iz bettur"
lmao, ten years ago id have said exactly that word for word, but now it seems its become a global phenomenon. think less, demand more, give up your freedom in exchange for government hand holding and shiney! shiney! new! tings! to buy,,,,,, or maybe im just cynical.