This post for anyone who knows how to root the new updated Rogers HTC Magic with the new:
32A
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
Please post any comments or suggestions if they are applicable.
Thank you.
Rogers HTC Magic (32A)
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
I'm in the same boat. Updated my phone with the Rogers updater, and 1.76.0010 seems to be a perfected SPL. I'm going to attempt the gold card method once I get the necessary hardware this weekend. I'm just concerned I might brick my phone, since all the gold card tutorials are pretty old...
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Any results?
Diddo, same problem. Tried the "One Click Root", no joy.
I thought that the data connection issue was b/c of the new radio so I foolishly listened to Rogers. Last time I make that mistake.
I am also in dire ned of a method to root this, or even reverse Rogers....
Maybe try the full version of the Relenless Rooter plus (the one for perfected SPL) software? It seems that 1.76.0010 is a perfect SPL.
Thankfully, I read all over the web and decided not to use the security patch that Rogers suggested and did not update. I kept the 1.33.0009 SPL and was able to use the normal Relenless Rooter software. Don't know it the full software will work for the 1.76.0010 SPL but why don't give it a try.
i'm pretty sure it has already been tried, and doesn't work
i too, am in the same boat
rogers kind of bullied us into this update, and i feel really stupid for falling for it.
i hope someone is working on a fix, tho i am yet to read one post saying that someone is.
Not to be mean or rude or a troll, but there were several warnings against updating with the official RUU.
In fact the "Rogers Mandatory Update Thread" many people mentioned many times to just wait till it was rooted then flash the rooted ROM.
But some people had to be hasty...
Taknarosh said:
Not to be mean or rude or a troll, but there were several warnings against updating with the official RUU.
In fact the "Rogers Mandatory Update Thread" many people mentioned many times to just wait till it was rooted then flash the rooted ROM.
But some people had to be hasty...
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Complicated procedure? You are mixing up two methods that made it possible to keep root. For cursor, all u needed to do was flash spl and radio, then his Rom, that's it. There is another method that allows u to keep original radio and. Spl, this one uses a script after applying a new rom. Just giving the facts, I do feel sorry for those that jumped the gun though, i was really close myself
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Rogers cut off my data. I rooted phone and applied CursorSense ROM and now i'm good.
I would be happy to help any Roger customers who want to apply this ROM. The steps are pretty straight forward as long as you have some computer knowledge.
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
crystalbellaboo said:
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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That's the reason for this thread. The update includes a new radio and no developer have found a way around it. Maybe the main developers (aka chefs) have moved on to newer and more exciting devices, like the Nexus One.
Who knows, maybe you guys can band together and pay a developer to do this?
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That's the reason for this thread. The update includes a new radio and no developer have found a way around it. Maybe the main developers (aka chefs) have moved on to newer and more exciting devices, like the Nexus One.
Who knows, maybe you guys can band together and pay a developer to do this?
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It's the SPL that's perfected. Not the radio. And most devs for the 32A are still here. It's mostly G1/Dream devs namely Cyanogen who have moved on to the Nexus One.
Amon_RA is still giving updates to the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic and Hero.
crystalbellaboo said:
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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I didn't update my phone. I didn't realise that this was a problem. Sorry to get your hopes up.
Taknarosh said:
It's the SPL that's perfected. Not the radio. And most devs for the 32A are still here. It's mostly G1/Dream devs namely Cyanogen who have moved on to the Nexus One.
Amon_RA is still giving updates to the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic and Hero.
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You are right about the SPL. I meant that too. I mixed Radio and SPL because Rogers is scanning for the new radio even for those who have root, as the developers page show.
Anyway, best of luck to those who upgraded and got the perfected SPL. Maybe someone can ask a favor from one of the developers?
Some help with rooting the 32A magic from rogers
Already asked for help via PM, no dice. I suspect that after the update the devs are inundated with requests. I'm happy to pay for someone to figure this out, but don't really know who to approach. Anyone?
So still no luck on anyone rooting this update... This is taking a lot longer then I thought it would. I only did the update because I was sure someone would be willing to jump right on and root this new SPL but no dice.
FoTwoZero said:
So still no luck on anyone rooting this update... This is taking a lot longer then I thought it would. I only did the update because I was sure someone would be willing to jump right on and root this new SPL but no dice.
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I know what you mean... hopefully someone comes through for us.
novadoc said:
I know what you mean... hopefully someone comes through for us.
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If we dont get root within the month then I'm calling Rogers and complaining to them about random misc stuff that I'll make up about the phone to get rid of it and get a new(better) phone.
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Hello,
Is it possible to root the HTC Dream from rogers yet? I just purchased one yesterday and I am not sure if the procedure is the same as for the T-Mobile G1.
Thanks
I too would like more information on this. Thanks in advance.
Dream...
I believe the Dream and the G1 are actually the same devices. So what you can do to one, should also apply to the other.
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
I wouldn't use the DREAIMG.NBH rooting procedure on the Rogers Dream. If I recall correctly, it includes a radio image (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, you wouldn't want to try to flash the radio from the G1 to your Rogers version that uses different frequencies.
I would venture a guess that the method Haykuro used to root the Sapphire would work, and should be safe to try even if it doesn't. Go here:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
I got that from a post in the Sapphire forum here on XDA Developers.
The key is to flash the recovery image with the rooted recovery image. I don't know what difference there may be between the magic and dream recovery images - you may want to grab the modified recovery image specifically for the dream and use it instead of the one on the wiki page.
Wish I had a Rogers Dream so I could try it. If any of you with this handset try it, post the result here!
silverchris said:
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
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I'm wondering this too. I'm not new to flashing devices etc but THIS is all new to me lol ... I found more info on This page that also explains about the radio however, I'm not sure what all applies or how things change with the Rogers phone. The more I read the more confused I get. One site said follow the link above and you wont have any problems, another said dont follow the site in order but do the radio first then flash the SPL.
Can someone please confirm the steps required to root the Rogers phone and then flash haykuro's ROgers ROM please? I just dont want to brick my device if at all possible (not that anyone really wants to brick their phones).
THanks guys!!
I am going to see if I can boot any of the recovery images without flashing them. I read in a thread thats possible....
None of the recovery images I've tried will boot on my device, Haykuro told me he's working on a solution with dream_kill to root this device.
So it can't be rooted yet?
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
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Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
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ya we must be patient.
i don't do that so well
the waiting game
I will be waiting as well. Though as soon as the US rooting procedure failed for me, I felt like Rogers had just bent me over and shoved a big rusty sand covered......you get the idea. Was it not enough to put Rogers logos all over the phone, but you had to take away our rooting ability's as well? How sad. But I like the phone too much to take it back Oh well, wait and hope for the best
All you guys (and girls) working on this, you totally rock!
Well, guess we're all in the same boat. I have been reading some of the other threads though, seems like maxawesome, has the Rogers Dream version, and had success rooting and flashing a few days ago, maybe he could share? Looks as though he is the first and possibly only to get root so far for rogers. I tried sending a pm to him, but not sure it went through. You should try, he has some posts in the "rogers rom" thread, just doesn't indicate which SPL version he ended up using.
I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Lets just hope we get to rooting our phones soon!
Just a suggestion: Perhaps you Canadians can try the goldcard method used for non-US/UK Dreams described in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that the updated SPL may cause bricking when the older radio is used. Please disregard this post!
Wasn't it just the haykuro modified spl that caused bricking? Of course, there is more to the radio on this device, even if it doesn't brick it, may result in a non-functional radio (until the correct radio is put back).
Work in progress
I see haykuro is working on it here
More waiting and searching.
Any other updates on where haykuro (or anyone else working on this) is at?
i think haykuro is looking for a device but its still hard to find in USA.
hrmmm ... wonder if we can put a call out and some extremely generous Canadian can send one to him ... seriously if I had a way to get my hand on another one without having to fork out $700 I'd totally contribute a phone
There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
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I posted the question in a wrong area im glad someone with a mytouch tried it i bricked my first mytouch
Worked
This worked for me also I am now on CyanogenMod v3.9.11.2 and it works very well.
TY Cyanogen!
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Works...but hesitant
This definitely works on the MT3G just tried it...whew glad it worked Still extremely hesitant on flashing new rom though. Dont know why even though I have a rooted G1. Perhaps I just love this phone too much to f*#$ it up
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There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
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Now that I think about it...If you just use this to get the recov img the MT3G still has the "perfected" spl. So exactly will this allow you to flash any new ROMs? That is why the "goldcard" was used to trick it and flash to an earlier "non-perfected" spl which would then allow you to flash ROMs updated radio etc etc etc. Shed any light on this?
I know there can be risks when doing any kind of modding/hacking. What is the main risk with rooting the MT3G? Is it mainly an issue with the battery falling out or running out of juice? Or is the rooting process invasive enough (i know it is root = can touch everything) or unstable enough that there is a relatively high probability of an issue running the canned procedure?
I have my phone, love it, my wife would kill me if I wrecked it. I just want to know how likely I am to end up with a brick using this method.
Also a question to understand this procedure, if I run the apk and reboot normally then there is no lasting root, correct? I have to go into the recovery mode and flash over a new rooted rom for root to become permanent? Does this actually change the SPL on the MT3G, does it preserve the ability to flash other roms at any time in the future? I want to know if this is a one time open up your phone for rooting or if after I do this will I always have root.
Sorry for all the questions, but I have been lurking around and haven't found definitive answers to these questions. Thanks!
Dave
Dave, Ive used this method. However if you didnt notice in my previous post...the spl does NOT change. Which is why I questioned the ability to flash any ROMs. The more "complicated" method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133) requires a "goldcard" with an earlier version of the spl. Which I believe allows flashing to occur.
Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. I think this is great for a simple root I am thinking to have future rooting I will need the goldcard method anyway.
It would seem that this method should be able to modify the SPL since it is able to run as root, maybe not though...
I did mine last night and now doing my wifes MT3G and I was comparing cyanogen's vs stock and its night and day...no loading screen issues with cyan's build and keyboard response got better too...
LOL yeah Ii was thinking about the SPL if we can change it out? I kinda want to call my phone semi-rooted
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Still waiting on this one also hehehe haven't seen anyone do it yet!
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
bobzoz said:
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
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just use the trackball to select what you want...cant use console though (ALT-X)
Works
bobzoz said:
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Just did it...1.33.2005/ also S-off. this is definitely legit and makes things a hell of a lot more easier than all those damn adb commands. Dont get me wrong at all I do appreciate all the work that was done by Haykuro and the other boys because without them Im sure this wouldnt be possible. Anywho...it works.
Okay. As newb as one can get with phone mods, etc. But it actually works. I dont know what the exact benefits of it are but I am running... Mod version CyanogenMod-3.9.11.2 per about phone. All my downloads are gone but it worked. I dont know what the difference/any limitations is for down the road, in comparison to the gold card method (I hope none), with this type of root but hey it actually worked and I would have kick my own a$$ if I bricked my phone. Thanks to folks who found this way and are their any "rooted" differences now that I am on cfw using this method for say updating to cyanogens 4.0 eventual release?
Alright, I took the plunge and it worked flawlessly!
I use the 1 click install via the market app called Recovery Flasher. I installed CyanogenMod 4.0.1 Stable. Zoom zoom zoom...
I thought I may have had an issue when I rebooted after flashing since it sat at the MyTouch 3G splash for a ton longer than normal. I had read it was normal for the first boot to take longer so I didn't freak out and pull the battery. I just let it come up and now I couldn't be happier.
If I remember reading correctly CyanogenMod has the fix for the root vulnerability used in this hack to root plugged. So, now that I have a rooted ROM and recovery 1.4 will I ever need to worry about having the dreaded "Perfect SPL?"
so easy a caveman could do it! a thousand times, thank you.
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
go for it
bobzoz said:
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
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go to town boss...now i need to get out of the stupid hero boot loop.
Thanks. I also took a chance since I got my Touch for free by Timo mistake. Couldn't resist. Aside a few apk not able to install everything works fine. Noob question, can I now format sd card?
Oh, thanks for Quick Office.
Ok. I know that this has been asked many times... so do not flame for this...
Just got a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G. I have the Perfect SPL (form what i understand form the other threads) 1.33.0006 (SAPP30000) with the 2.22.19.26I Radio.
Which is the best way for me to root my phone?
-i do want to keep the stock Donut ROM.
-i do not want to lose any user data... just want to get root access - think of it as Quickpwn or Redsn0w is for iPhone
What would be a way for me to update my phone after that if T-Mobile releases a new update?
Also...
If i do flash my phone with a different ROM, how do i return to the stock T-Mobile one?
I have spent a good day going through the Sapphire forum so please don't be rude and tell me to 'Search'
Thanks
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i do want to keep the stock Donut ROM.
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if thats all you want then the quickest way to keep what you already have is not rooting your phone
bogdi1988 said:
i do not want to lose any user data... just want to get root access
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theres not, your gonna have to lose it or again not root your phone
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What would be a way for me to update my phone after that if T-Mobile releases a new update?
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flashing a rom with that specific ota update/or/unrooting your phone to receive ota updates/or/again not rooting your phone
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If i do flash my phone with a different ROM, how do i return to the stock T-Mobile one?
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you can flash the newest ota release (same as you would a rom) or you could just not root your phone
Just to highlight all your questions could be anwsered with not rooting your phone... and in a serious way. If I were you I would really rethink why you want root in the first place
There are quite a few rooting tools available among the forum threads.
Do a little bit of research; and you'll certainly end up finding some success in regards to your topic.
This is not a 2.1 speculation thread, I just thought I'd ask it here with all that knowledge floating around.
WHEN (May 7th?) the 2.1 update is OFFICIALLY dropped, will rooted users be pushed the update? Or will it only go out to models registered as running 1.56.
ASSUMING one might want to upgrade and that push comes, you guys think updating might cause any harm to the phone? I'm thinking 1.56RUU..
I don't think I will partake in the official release, I can't imagine it being any better then what I have now, and what will come after that official release is dropped, however I have had this question for a while. So what do you guys think?
I don't think they can actually push a OTW update.....
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This is not a 2.1 speculation thread, I just thought I'd ask it here with all that knowledge floating around.
WHEN (May 7th?) the 2.1 update is OFFICIALLY dropped, will rooted users be pushed the update? Or will it only go out to models registered as running 1.56.
ASSUMING one might want to upgrade and that push comes, you guys think updating might cause any harm to the phone? I'm thinking 1.56RUU..
I don't think I will partake in the official release, I can't imagine it being any better then what I have now, and what will come after that official release is dropped, however I have had this question for a while. So what do you guys think?
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It is not going to be OTA. It will not matter if you are running custom whatever or stock.
If you run the ruu.exe it will load the official 2.1 release on your phone. The only reason it may not work would be if you ran the 2.1 test ruu.exe and for some reason the official release's hboot is lower than 1.47.000 (the hboot that came with the test release).
Other potential nasty side effects you could get with your official release:
No root
Possibly never be able to root again, or at least stuck with no root until a new work around is found. This fully depends on whether old method is patched.
No custom recovery, no custom roms, no ability to flash .zips from recovery. This goes along with the lack of root.
Inability to run 1.56 ruu ever again due to updated hboot.
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It is not going to be OTA. It will not matter if you are running custom whatever or stock.
If you run the ruu.exe it will load the official 2.1 release on your phone. The only reason it may not work would be if you ran the 2.1 test ruu.exe and for some reason the official release's hboot is lower than 1.47.000 (the hboot that came with the test release).
Other nasty side effects you could get with your official release:
No root
Possibly never be able to root again, or at least stuck with no root until a new work around is found.
No custom recovery, no custom roms, no ability to flash .zips from recovery. This goes along with the lack of root.
Inability to run 1.56 ruu ever again due to updated hboot.
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Couldn't have said it better myself! I would just suggest waiting until the cook of your preference updates his to include items from the official release.
And the single most important reason: No nandroid. Having a point in time backup is insanely important to me. If I ever have to return my phone and get a refurb, it's nice to know I've got a nandroid that will get me right back to where I was before I turned in my phone.
It won't be OTA as I have read in more than one place that Sprint limits OTA updates to 9MB. Since this will be close to or over 100MB it's going to be OTW.
I for one will not be updating to it. My phone is working perfectly as is and this would give me no additional functionality so why bother?
As for the whole rooting issue, I wish folks wouldn't be so scared of the new hboot. I used the RUU and I have custom recovery and can flash any ROM I want. Yes, I know the leaked RUU had root already, but I rerooted it properly and installed busybox and all that so I could use the phone how I wanted.
Anyway, sorry to get sidetracked there, my comment about being so scared of the new hboot is simply this...There is no way the new version will not be rooted sooner or later. Obviously Sprint and HTC would like us to not be able to root any phones but someone always finds a way. There is no way that the new firmware will not be rooted sooner or later. Just like how the Evo will get rooted, as will any newer phone released after it. It is inevitable that someone will figure it out especially with all the talented and experienced folks here working on it as soon as it's released.
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It won't be OTA as I have read in more than one place that Sprint limits OTA updates to 9MB. Since this will be close to or over 100MB it's going to be OTW.
I for one will not be updating to it. My phone is working perfectly as is and this would give me no additional functionality so why bother?
As for the whole rooting issue, I wish folks wouldn't be so scared of the new hboot. I used the RUU and I have custom recovery and can flash any ROM I want. Yes, I know the leaked RUU had root already, but I rerooted it properly and installed busybox and all that so I could use the phone how I wanted.
Anyway, sorry to get sidetracked there, my comment about being so scared of the new hboot is simply this...There is no way the new version will not be rooted sooner or later. Obviously Sprint and HTC would like us to not be able to root any phones but someone always finds a way. There is no way that the new firmware will not be rooted sooner or later. Just like how the Evo will get rooted, as will any newer phone released after it. It is inevitable that someone will figure it out especially with all the talented and experienced folks here working on it as soon as it's released.
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One big disadvantage/advantage in our case, is that Linux is open source. Anyone who wants to find a root exploit, and is smart enough has the ability to find out where there is potential code to allow for one. So you are correct, my assumption is that we will find a root for it one day. BUT I do think that if the EVO drops soon after, all of the talent that can find one will be on it. Then again, some people are of the mind set "Leave no device un hacked" and it would bother people if they knew we didn't have root LOL
Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't we be able to simply use an older RUU (1.52, etc) to get the phone rootable again?
My intention was going to be to try out the new stock RUU for a bit, then re-flash with an older RUU, get root and RA recovery back on, then go back to Fresh Toast. Will this not be possible?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't we be able to simply use an older RUU (1.52, etc) to get the phone rootable again?
My intention was going to be to try out the new stock RUU for a bit, then re-flash with an older RUU, get root and RA recovery back on, then go back to Fresh Toast. Will this not be possible?
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Not possible if the Hboot updates, which it probably will. Those here who tried the test leak 2.1 ruu.exe were unable to run the 1.56 ruu after.
There is an alternative to restore everything except the hboot from the 1.56 ruu here, but you cannot simply run the .exe. This method won't work if the official build has patched the ability to gain root (you won't be able to nandroid). In that case you will be stuck with official 2.1 only.
BTW, speaking from experience with the test build, ruu, hboot, etc.
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One big disadvantage/advantage in our case, is that Linux is open source. Anyone who wants to find a root exploit, and is smart enough has the ability to find out where there is potential code to allow for one. So you are correct, my assumption is that we will find a root for it one day. BUT I do think that if the EVO drops soon after, all of the talent that can find one will be on it. Then again, some people are of the mind set "Leave no device un hacked" and it would bother people if they knew we didn't have root LOL
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Open source is never a disadvantage. Ever.
Good to know, would've been awful to have to wait for new root hack just because I tried the new and shiny!
Guess I will sit back and wait for dev magic before I jump the gun.
Sawawa said:
Open source is never a disadvantage. Ever.
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Mater of semantics, politics, and Ideaologies.
Google has a half belief here, they like open, but they protect that damn search algorithim like its a sacred scripture - Last count I think 8 people on earth knew exactly how it worked.
So the disadvantage to google would be ungodly competition if it was released. Proprietary stuff is a win if you look for profits. Again...depends on which side of the spectrum you are on. Points can be argued either way.
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It won't be OTA as I have read in more than one place that Sprint limits OTA updates to 9MB. Since this will be close to or over 100MB it's going to be OTW.
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I think the OP is asking about an OTA 'notification' that the official update is available. If so then yes, everyone with a Hero will get a text message regardless of what rom we have installed.
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I think the OP is asking about an OTA 'notification' that the official update is available. If so then yes, everyone with a Hero will get a text message regardless of what rom we have installed.
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THAT BETTER NOT COUNT AGAINST MY TEXT LIMIT!!!!
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THAT BETTER NOT COUNT AGAINST MY TEXT LIMIT!!!!
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ROFL. . . you don't have unlimited text?
lol I would hope having a hero you would have unlimited data and texts
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yeah, but I still keep track of them. Habitual addiction to knowing everything LOL.
yeah, but I still keep track of them. Habitual addiction to knowing everything LOL.
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lol! that's great.. ever since sprint gave us that free mobile to mobile in any network I do not bother checking minutes or texts. unless my bill changes.
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One big disadvantage/advantage in our case, is that Linux is open source. Anyone who wants to find a root exploit, and is smart enough has the ability to find out where there is potential code to allow for one.
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Why is it that people still think open source means insecure? I don't claim to know how previous rooting techniques exploit Android, but I do know that 2 Linux distros have a higher government security rating than any other operating system. I assume most weaknesses in android have to do with the recovery and/or update code, which has nothing to do with Linux.
Sawawa said:
Open source is never a disadvantage. Ever.
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It IS when HTC bogards it from us and hordes it like cookie monster does cookies. I thought open source meant OPEN SOURCE. Ahh, who knows i probably misunderstood the whole concept
Figured I'd start a thread for all of us suckers that went with Unrevoked and want to back down or switch methods.
Has anyone that did the Unrevoked 2 / ClockWorkMod method of root successfully backed down to stock and / or converted to Toast?
What method did you use.
Thanks
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Figured I'd start a thread for all of us suckers that went with Unrevoked and want to back down or switch methods.
Has anyone that did the Unrevoked 2 / ClockWorkMod method of root successfully backed down to stock and / or converted to Toast?
What method did you use.
Thanks
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*raises hand*
4G still hosed. I was on Unrevoked v1 which hosed my 4G.
Did the dummy's guide to rooting found on this forum.
Still no 4G, but my MAC is now correct.
If you still have partial root try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
Might not fit your situation but might help somebody out
just use Toasts ruu to get back to stock then reroot using his guide.
p.s. whats wrong with unrevoked2, does 4g not work with it or something?
Im in a no 4g zone so.................
ifly4vamerica said:
If you still have partial root try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
Might not fit your situation but might help somebody out
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Just did that. No go.
I have tried a lot of things to restore my 4g. I reset my MAC to original using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715525
I have converted to Damage Control: Still no working 4g.
I have tried basically everything I can think of including going back to stock.
At this point I think I am going to flash the original hardware and do the OTA update....then take it in and show that my 4g isn't working.
This has been bugging me for a while, and this seems like the right thread to ask this question in. If a lot of roms require Toast's root method, and Unrevoked has given issues, is there a reason that people are still using Unrevoked's root method over Toast's? Not to hate on the Unrevoked guys, but this has been bugging me.
i have tried everything, i dont know what to do!!
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i have tried everything, i dont know what to do!!
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What EXACTLY are you trying to do?
restore 4G after using the Unrevoked 1 to update to the new firmware, but it just busted my 4g i have gonne back to stock, i am bout to take it to sprint and act dumb!!
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restore 4G after using the Unrevoked 1 to update to the new firmware, but it just busted my 4g i have gonne back to stock, i am bout to take it to sprint and act dumb!!
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This may be the only option. I have the same issue.
As far as using unrevoked over toast, it was just the first one I used to get root when I got the phone. I went with it because it was easy. I have since used toast to install other items in an attempt to restore 4g. I will use toast in the future now that I am familiar with it.
okay, so i used unrevoked.apk to root then used unrevoked2 to flash recovery. are you saying that 4g is now completely gone from my phone?
yep sir, Unrevoked its busting 4g!!
I was using unrevoked.apk at first, as I didn't want to wipe my EVO. I had to wipe it anyway to move from the I/O account to my personal one, so I though "might as well root now." I like having ENG SPLs, and unrevoked2 wasn't out yet, so it wasn't a difficult decision.
I was terribly disappointed in every custom ROM I tried. They would run hot, the battery sucked, and they'd randomly reboot when I wasn't even touching them. I finally had enough and went back to a stock system.img with unrevoked.apk installed, and everything worked fine. I only use root to have full access in adb anyway - I don't really mess with task killers or the like. I'm not interested in a custom ROM until FroYo AOSP.
I applied the unrevoked version of the latest OTA patch last night. Let's see how that goes…
im confused. why is this just now being brought up. unrevoked has been around for awhile. I haven't heard anyone complain until now. Is it something Unrevoked has done recently, or are we just now realizing the issue?
It is a known issue. Unrevoked released a response to the OTA for users to update without breaking root. The initial release broke 4g for almost everyone who applied it (maybe everyone). They pulled the release and a day later put up a new one that works (as far as i know). Those who used the first release still have no 4g. To the best of my knowledge, no one has been able to fix the 4g issues caused by the initial unrevoked2
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Read the second bullet under FAQs: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/evo_ota_2_patch
Why the f*** is there ANOTHER thread on this...
There's already 3 threads relating to this, one of which I made that goes into detail and another which talks about changing MAC and it still doesn't work.
There is no solution, stop making new threads hoping to find one.
If you want a solution, wait for unrevoked to announce one.
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It is a known issue. Unrevoked released a response to the OTA for users to update without breaking root. The initial release broke 4g for almost everyone who applied it (maybe everyone). They pulled the release and a day later put up a new one that works (as far as i know). Those who used the first release still have no 4g. To the best of my knowledge, no one has been able to fix the 4g issues caused by the initial unrevoked2
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Read the second bullet under FAQs: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/evo_ota_2_patch
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ok, so this just pertains to the OTA?
cause I haven't dont the OTA.
it doesnt matter, we jut got screw, taking my phone to sprint on monday, two days to find a solution, or i am taking my phone back to sprint!!
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it doesnt matter, we jut got screw, taking my phone to sprint on monday, two days to find a solution, or i am taking my phone back to sprint!!
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LMAO - you really think the people at your "local sprint" store are smarter than these guys at XDA?
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