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Is it me, or has the herald never gotten popular? And why not? I mean it's a smaller, faster and better Wizard. Comparing to the activity on the Wizard or even the big, chubby Hermes, this sub forum is close to dead! I dont get it.
I'm thinking that too, cause If we see the other forums, the others PDA has a lot of movement in their forums. I think that model is so great, better than other models like the models that you said.
It's just a matter of time. When I joined this forum I already had my HTC Prophet for some time and the community was similar in size and activity like the Herald's now. If you have a look at the Prophet forum now its pretty huge and active, too. It also depends on the prices those devices are sold so people will jump faster on them. The Prophet is avaible for just 10€ with a provider contract here in Germany, the Herald not even close. At least we have some very active users already on our side experimenting in putting cooked ROMs on our beloved Herald's. Sooner or later we we will be able to choose which custom ROM we want to put on our devices.
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It's just a matter of time. When I joined this forum I already had my HTC Prophet for some time and the community was similar in size and activity like the Herald's now. If you have a look at the Prophet forum now its pretty huge and active, too. It also depends on the prices those devices are sold so people will jump faster on them. The Prophet is avaible for just 10€ with a provider contract here in Germany, the Herald not even close. At least we have some very active users already on our side experimenting in putting cooked ROMs on our beloved Herald's. Sooner or later we we will be able to choose which custom ROM we want to put on our devices.
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Yep -i guess also. The wing in america is our chance for cooked roms. Because german romcooker are not very presented (look at ppc-welt.com)
Except you and me - lol
So what can the folks with the Wizard do that we can't as far as ROMs? I just quit using my Wizard (or should I say it quit), and bought my Herald. From everything I see it's the same phone internally. So doesn't it make sense to be able to use a cooked Wizard ROM in a Herald? Of course I don't have the balls to try this myself to see if it works, that's why I'm asking the question.
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So what can the folks with the Wizard do that we can't as far as ROMs? I just quit using my Wizard (or should I say it quit), and bought my Herald. From everything I see it's the same phone internally. So doesn't it make sense to be able to use a cooked Wizard ROM in a Herald? Of course I don't have the balls to try this myself to see if it works, that's why I'm asking the question.
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Wizard uses an "old" os file version = nbf
herald uses = nbh
and the nbh files have to be signed. and we cannot singd it.
That´s the difference. It is not such eays like oin wizard and on hermes they got a prefabricated bootloader with supercid.
for herald they amde it better like for vista etc.
MS is learning how to save their devices
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Wizard uses an "old" os file version = nbf
herald uses = nbh
and the nbh files have to be signed. and we cannot singd it.
That´s the difference. It is not such eays like oin wizard and on hermes they got a prefabricated bootloader with supercid.
for herald they amde it better like for vista etc.
MS is learning how to save their devices
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Exactly, the newer devices follow a higher protected filessystem.
The differences might look minor, but they are effective from being modified.
As papamopps said, its comparable with WinXP's to WinVista's protection.
But I'm certain we will have our custom ROM some time soon.
Other XDA communities like PDAMobiz or PDAViet and many others
are having their hands on HTC devices, so I wouldn't worry much,
at least we will get official WM6 ROMs and that's something.
It's just a matter of time... the Wing is the hottest selling PDAphone so far in the US.
And believe me, I bring up custom ROMs for the Herald/Atlas/Wing every chance I get!
-Richard
rpodos said:
It's just a matter of time... the Wing is the hottest selling PDAphone so far in the US.
And believe me, I bring up custom ROMs for the Herald/Atlas/Wing every chance I get!
-Richard
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Yippeeehhhh
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Yippeeehhhh
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I second that!
The Dutchman said:
I second that!
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It's just a matter of time... i agreee
the ship rom sucks
I also hink it's only a matter of time but for the time been I have had the herald (tmobile Wing) for 3 days and I am soooooo frudtrated with the lack of program memory (not storage memory) on this thing it's a nice phone but geeees the rom on it sucks I cant even have half the programs I had on my Wizard installed 15 programs and the 16th one was igo gps nav and it wont run unless I do a soft reset from lack of memory so i am thinking to go back to the Wizard untill I REAL custom rom is available without all the T-Mobile crap in it I tried to get some of the stuff out but not much luck most of the Tmobile stuff is par of the rom as far as I can tell. 3 days and I really miss the core 2.0n I have on the wizard WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
Not sure if i agree about best selling, Dash still outsells the wing in my area of the us Minnesota. The low memory issues is still really annoying me. official rom is out there somewhere?
With the latest rom from the danish retailer Dangaard, my P4350 is running quite well, haven't had memory problems since flashing it.
Well i guess the people are getting confused by the herald... i bought it because i knew that there is an dual core inside + windows mobile 6! If you don't know that the processor is a dual core, then 201Mhz just seem to be a bit low... i'm running them now on 260Mhz - kinda battery drain, but the speed is awesome! DVD watching *jammi*
The WM6 fixed a lot of bugs and added features, that are very handy + it has long time support, because of the "windows mobile update" option.
FZZF said:
I also hink it's only a matter of time but for the time been I have had the herald (tmobile Wing) for 3 days and I am soooooo frudtrated with the lack of program memory (not storage memory) on this thing it's a nice phone but geeees the rom on it sucks I cant even have half the programs I had on my Wizard installed 15 programs and the 16th one was igo gps nav and it wont run unless I do a soft reset from lack of memory so i am thinking to go back to the Wizard untill I REAL custom rom is available without all the T-Mobile crap in it I tried to get some of the stuff out but not much luck most of the Tmobile stuff is par of the rom as far as I can tell. 3 days and I really miss the core 2.0n I have on the wizard WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
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lol? 192 ROM + 64 RAM ain't enough?
Ok, i got a 2GB Mini SD for 20€ in it, but even though... 192 MB should be enough for adding programs...
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Well i guess the people are getting confused by the herald... i bought it because i knew that there is an dual core inside + windows mobile 6! If you don't know that the processor is a dual core, then 201Mhz just seem to be a bit low... i'm running them now on 260Mhz - kinda battery drain, but the speed is awesome! DVD watching *jammi*
The WM6 fixed a lot of bugs and added features, that are very handy + it has long time support, because of the "windows mobile update" option.
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Dual Core? lol- where did you get this wisdom?
TI-OMAP 850 Specifications:
Power + Expandability
Processor: Texas Instruments OMAP 850 Dual Core 200 MHz CPU
Memory: 128MB ROM, 64 RAM;
Expansion: One SDIO/SD/MMC Slot, Bluetooth 2,0
Operating System: Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC Phone Edition
Features
Camera: 2.0 MP Stills, Macro Mode, low-resolution video.
Wireless: 'Wi-fi' 802.11b/g, Bluetooth 2.0 (No EDR, Class 2), Infra-red
Phone: GSM/GPRS Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Phone Data: EDGE EGPRS Class B
Battery: 1200mAh Li-Ion
Physical Aspects
Weight: about 150g, 5.29 oz
Dimensions: 4.25" x 2.28" x 0.72", (108 x 58 x 18 mm)
Audio Jack: 2.5mm Phone Audio Jack
Display: 2.8" (7,1cm) 240x320 16-Bit TFT/TFD Transflective
Connector: Mini-USB
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(from the prophet ones)
german source:
http://www.computerbase.de/news/consumer_electronics/kommunikation/2007/april/o2_xda_htc_herald_mai/
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...the processor is a dual core...
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the OMAP850 is not a dual core processor. The Texas Instruments page doesn't state it anywhere. Link to TI OMAP850 site
Yeah - after 30minutes of researching i found that out too... but why does the xda-developers wiki state a dual core in the prohpet running on TI 850?
Yep, everyone here in oz is talking about this- no places are stocking the Dopod D810 anymore as they cant get it.....
apparently within the next few weeks a new HTC P3600i will be released with more memory and a faster processor......
not sure if this is fiction or not but sounds good- strange though that they would release it here before anywhere else... we always seem to get technology like this about 6-12months after everywhere else (we only got electricity last week! )...... no iphone until late this year.... etc....
personally i think that it is just a rebranding of the current Dopod D810? Anyone from here who has good sources can confirm this?
look at the post halfway down the page here- one guy buying a heap from 3 has been told of the P3600i....:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=658349&p=-1#bottom
Personally I think it's just a rebranding ... cause the latest official Dopod WM6 ROM (we all jumped on ) states "HTC_P3600i" in the 'About' screen...
Or....in the case of a real P3600i, this would explain why there are some issues with this Dopod ROM on a regular P3600...
Hmz..
It's true
HTC is updating the Trinity with a 500MHz processor and larger memory. Also known as CHT9110 (our P3600 is CHT9100) in Taiwan and offered for about 20% price increase.
Why would they do this when HTC is unveiling a few new phones in a few months? To me the Polaris is the phone to get.....
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Why would they do this when HTC is unveiling a few new phones in a few months? To me the Polaris is the phone to get.....
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I don't see a 3G small (i.e. without keyboard) phone with GPS in the HTC roadmap so maybe there's room for an improved P3600.
this will be my next phone if htc release it in europe.
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I don't see a 3G small (i.e. without keyboard) phone with GPS in the HTC roadmap so maybe there's room for an improved P3600.
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Huh? The Polaris is the same exact phone as the 3300 but with 3G. It has a 2.8" screen, not a 3.5" screen, that was a typo. I have spec screen shots of the Polaris and it looks great.
Look at my ActiveSync, one of the choices is HTC P3600i
after flashing my trinity w/ Dopod's official WM6 ROM, activesync detects it as a P3600i already
it seem soo pc'ish to be willing to replace a device to get 100Mhz more
battery life is more importent
more so if one like to be online with messenger with 3g while on the move
i dont see much real world change in that
polaris seems like a pretty cool device imho
Yep it may be rebranded as HTC P3600i or Dopod810x anyway from what I have seen so far in some Asian websites (HTC P3600 = CHT9100 and the HTC P3600i = CHT9110)
the new specifications may be:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
Samsung 500Mhz CPU
256MB ROM/64MB RAM
All the rest should remain the same as the previous model.
I can't say that it is 100% sure but you can still have a look at:
http://mobile.163.com/07/0718/10/3JM8DP840011179O.html
below all the pictures.
One big question remain, how much will this new model cost?
I wish 128 Mb RAM
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I wish 128 Mb RAM
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Exactly.
You would think if there really was an upgrade you would have heard about it. I mean the Artemis is getting an upgrade and we are hearing an official announcement and they gave it 128mb of RAM.
Edit: It does exist...
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=356845
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I wish 128 Mb RAM
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its 64RAM see here http://203.84.199.31/language/trans...cts/pda_CHT9110/pda_CHT9110_fea.html&lp=zt_en
it's still a preproducton.. maybe they will change 128 Mb
128M of RAM would definitely cause battery to drainer much quicker - unless they upgrade the battery too.
P3600i available in Australia in one week.
It really does exist!
Here is the preordering page at a shop here in town.
The price is $1099 AUD.
http://www.ow.com.au/Customer-Assistance/HTC-P3600i-3G-GPS-Pocket-PC
HTC P3600i in latest "3"cattledog!
Yep guyz and guyesses. The latest 3 Three cattledog inside back cover shows and lists the HTC P3600i available on a $49 plan for $32 per month. Now that's $4 less than the Dopod D810 albeit on a $29 plan.
Organizer world have it listed also at $1099 due in about 10 days or so.
Extra ram and 500 processor and my favorite a built in GPS receiver.
Just tought you would like to know that it really is happening!
woja
The Kaiser will be king again!
Actually I reckon that the HTC Kaiser will be the one to wait for coz it's got lots of goodies incuding a keyboard which sits at an angle, has a great and worthwhile camera etc but I don't think it has GPS. There are reviws on the web.
woja
woja53 said:
Actually I reckon that the HTC Kaiser will be the one to wait for coz it's got lots of goodies incuding a keyboard which sits at an angle, has a great and worthwhile camera etc but I don't think it has GPS. There are reviws on the web.
woja
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This is your opinion. I have used the Kaiser and as great of a phone it is, IT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE.
I dislike slide out keyboards as I have had 2 phones like this and got rid of them both. I also dislike heavy phones and this phone is one of the heaviest phones I have held in a while.
Anyway, why would you post about the Kaiser in this thread? If anything, I would be waiting for the Polaris personally, not the Kaiser.
http://www.mobilewhack.com/-htc-touch-cht9110-phone/
is the CHT a D810 w/ Touch interface?
Available for preorder in Australia - the new P3600i - successor to the current Trinity.
Due end August.
http://www.calculatorking.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=66_150&products_id=749
http://www.ow.com.au/Customer-Assistance/HTC-P3600i-3G-GPS-Pocket-PC
$1099AUD
It´s a cool toy,really pricey and expensive but nice.More processor,more rom memory and WM6,I´m sure it´ll work "beautiful",but I see it really,really expensive.
And now is when I think....no Htc WM6 for our Trinities,which is something that I don´t even care,I´d rather pay our cooks.
My next toy will be E-TEN.
$1100 my god!
i personally think HTC should give it for free to existing 3600 owners... it is just a processor upgrade... how much is that for a hardware manufacturer, $0.5? ok .. a little bit memory... $1?
I bet the screen is the same ultrareflective thing... what about the paint? looks like the same thing.... then why is it soooo much expensive??
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$1100 my god!
i personally think HTC should give it for free to existing 3600 owners... it is just a processor upgrade... how much is that for a hardware manufacturer, $0.5? ok .. a little bit memory... $1?
I bet the screen is the same ultrareflective thing... what about the paint? looks like the same thing.... then why is it soooo much expensive??
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You talk about AU$1100.-- this is 655.- eu I think normal price here in europe and if you can deliver for this price 0.50 this processor you can deliver 1000 pieces to me with 100% margin for you, Keep on Dreaming.
I received mine yesterday from 3 in Australia. Its exactly the same as the D810 except for 500mhz cpu and 256mb flash. The ROM version, Radio version and protocol version are the same as in the official WM6 D810 ROM (at least in Australia). Needless to say, the application mix is identical to the D810 WM6 load.
The only external difference is that the case has the htc logo on the front top left and rear bottom centre instead of the dopod logo. The colouring of the buttons etc is exactly the same as the d810.
The box it comes in is new, Black and Green vs the Red that the Dopod came in.
OW has dropped price to AU$995, but release date back to 7th September. Does anybody know if three will sell these outright? Never mind... found it on their site $1,049
In the calculatorking link, what gps software is that displayed on the screen?
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You talk about AU$1100.-- this is 655.- eu I think normal price here in europe and if you can deliver for this price 0.50 this processor you can deliver 1000 pieces to me with 100% margin for you, Keep on Dreaming.
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haha I am not a taiwan hardware manufacturer bro... But really, you would be surprised about the industrial silicon prices for big hardware manufacturers. Thanx for clarifying about AUS$ heheh.. it now all makes sense
will extra CPU power make that much of a difference?
Few info (in French) here :
HTC P3600i
http://www.mobinaute.com/78578-p3600i-htc-boostee-pdaphone-3g-agps.html
Dopod CHT 9110
http://www.mobinaute.com/78154-cht-9110-htc-super-pdaphone-htc-trinity-chine.html
More than our Trinity :
CPU:500MHz
RAM:128 ROM:256
A-GPS
dta1974 said:
It´s a cool toy,really pricey and expensive but nice.More processor,more rom memory and WM6,I´m sure it´ll work "beautiful",but I see it really,really expensive.
And now is when I think....no Htc WM6 for our Trinities,which is something that I don´t even care,I´d rather pay our cooks.
My next toy will be E-TEN.
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e-ten !?? don't touch it. i had one for 2 long, painful weeks. i spent my time chaising bugs and trying to revive the gps. a real piece of junk. never had something so...so....useless and time consuming.
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e-ten !?? don't touch it. i had one for 2 long, painful weeks. i spent my time chaising bugs and trying to revive the gps. a real piece of junk. never had something so...so....useless and time consuming.
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Ahhh, you've obviously never used the MioA701! That was my first GPS integrated PDA Phone, bought 5 for my staff and spent 1 month trying to get the stupid things to work properly. Returned them all and got 5 x Dopod P800W (Artemis). Thank god for HTC!
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e-ten !?? don't touch it. i had one for 2 long, painful weeks. i spent my time chaising bugs and trying to revive the gps. a real piece of junk. never had something so...so....useless and time consuming.
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Thanks guys for replying......The E-TEN thought is gone ;-).I´ll keep waiting and searching.
Thank you again for your advices ;-)
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Ahhh, you've obviously never used the MioA701! That was my first GPS integrated PDA Phone, bought 5 for my staff and spent 1 month trying to get the stupid things to work properly. Returned them all and got 5 x Dopod P800W (Artemis). Thank god for HTC!
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Thanks Dadowizard....I appreciate
so does the paint still flake off on this revised 3600?
Hmmm, so if this HTC P3600i is about $1000 AUS that is about $822 USD. I have seen the Kaiser offered for pre-order at about the same amount here in the US.
I imagine the price will settle a little lower once they are rolling them out.
I would really prefer to see a little bit more of jump in features before I will be yearning to spring this kind of cash though...
Both the Kaiser and the P3600i seem like relatively small upgrades, but not a leap. That is a quite a lot of memory though!
Maybe I'll buy one if a drop my Trinity down a well or something!
The thing that is really lagging behind here in the US is the 3G Networks themselves. T-Mobile hasn't rolled theirs out yet and att still isn't fullly National. Plus we still can't use the live Video Telephony feature fully on our existing phones.
just picked one up, on side of box says "Flash ROM 256MB / SDRAM 64MB. So no ram upgrade to 128 in Aus.
Can't say much more as it is on the charger... and its my first PDA/Phone so not much to compare against. No doubt I'll be getting flack for asking n00b questions soon.
For those interested, be aware that the new HTC P3600i can not be upgraded or flashed currently.
SSPL, HardSPL, Des SPL, splExploit all do not work at all on it. So far, i can't find a way to actually flash anything other than the official WM6 ANZ rom thats available.
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For those interested, be aware that the new HTC P3600i can not be upgraded or flashed currently.
SSPL, HardSPL, Des SPL, splExploit all do not work at all on it. So far, i can't find a way to actually flash anything other than the official WM6 ANZ rom thats available.
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HTC is playing cat and mouse with the ROM bakers. Someone will probably eventually figure out how to do it...but you never know, one day they might succeed in making them "cook" proof .
P3600i rom on P3600...
As far as I could see and also stated before the biggest difference is the CPU.
Would it be possible to upgrade a P3600 with the P3600i WM6 rom?
Its CPU and storage space.
The ROM on the P3600i, is the official WM6 ANZ rom for the P3600/Dopod D810 that was released a couple weeks back, nothing else to it, same protocol, radion, rom and IPL/SPL.
Except this bugger thing won't update no matter what i do so far, and can't get any help on it either.
Why, oh why does our Titan only carry 64MB of ram? I mean, it's supposed to be the cream of the crop of the CDMA PPC Phone... ain't it?
One reason I hate the GSM varients are because of their weak signals from where I live, but the devices are so much better! I had a Cingular 8525 (HTC Hermes), and IMO it's a better device than the Titan except for the flash memory. The device was overall faster and the camara was so much better with its macro switch (I loved it).
Now, I love the CDMA network because I rarely get a dropped calls or even weak signals, but the phone itself just sucks! I know it's a tad bit too late for me to cancel the account since it's past the 30 day guarantee return period, but I just had to rant a bit for my disappointment on this device....
I mean c'mon! This should be the best PPC Phone out there for the CDMA gurus.... right? Err...
Oh well... 'til the revised or cooked rom comes out.........
I feel the same way when i pop open my keyboard to dial a # and the phone hangs.... 64mb of ram for a brand new product is lack for a better term pathetic. There is absolutely no reason to dumb down a product, especially your new introductory product to CDMA. Great phone, weaaaaaak chips.
I wouldn't care to much for the amount of RAM if we had 64MB free, not the 20-28MB that is how much you really have, thats what it should say on the features list, 20-28MB not 64MB as 64 is not really there, the device even says it only has like 40 something. Anyway, when the Rev. A and GPS (Hopefully full featured and unlocked for use with Google/Tom Tom) update comes out it will work much better. (maybe even more free RAM, 30MB possible
Its not the device its the software driving the device. Find yourself a nice .17 rom cooked by a pro and the phone flys. We have more then enough ram to do just about anything with the phone. Short of going to a Vista OS or something there is literaly no need for it just a need for better software that isnt so horribly put together.
Hi guys, I've been the prowd owner of a trinity for nearly 18 months now and am starting to get the old hassle from service providers that "providings" upgrades etc..
The thing is although there is a lot of hardware HTC have out there I just read the bumpf on the HD Blackstone and although its faster processor it doesn't seem to have the functionality of the trinity in the radio dept.
I'm looking for a 500mhz phone thats like the trin. The APX 2500 looks impressive but I don't think the service provider will go for it.
Need something with a little more oompf that is'n going to cripple my monthy spendings. Is there a Phone I can ' Upgrade' to that is running WM OS?
I've been using wm devices since I had a SPV E100. And flashing upgrading, tinkering with them for some time now. I will be developing software as soon as I have the ability to. Probably Mobi Java.
I'm looking for similar size phone with a 500 mhz or faster with video hardware that can output to tv. possibly a keyboard but it's not essential.
I just can't fault the trinity as it's a great all rounder.
Samsung OMNIA
Sales guy quoted me 16 gig on board ram...
642Mhz
I'll let you know if I keep it.
If I do anyone know the best place to flog a Trinity
Nope. it's going back.
OK so the omnia has no d-pad. I think i'll go with the Xperia.