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Is it me, or has the herald never gotten popular? And why not? I mean it's a smaller, faster and better Wizard. Comparing to the activity on the Wizard or even the big, chubby Hermes, this sub forum is close to dead! I dont get it.
I'm thinking that too, cause If we see the other forums, the others PDA has a lot of movement in their forums. I think that model is so great, better than other models like the models that you said.
It's just a matter of time. When I joined this forum I already had my HTC Prophet for some time and the community was similar in size and activity like the Herald's now. If you have a look at the Prophet forum now its pretty huge and active, too. It also depends on the prices those devices are sold so people will jump faster on them. The Prophet is avaible for just 10€ with a provider contract here in Germany, the Herald not even close. At least we have some very active users already on our side experimenting in putting cooked ROMs on our beloved Herald's. Sooner or later we we will be able to choose which custom ROM we want to put on our devices.
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It's just a matter of time. When I joined this forum I already had my HTC Prophet for some time and the community was similar in size and activity like the Herald's now. If you have a look at the Prophet forum now its pretty huge and active, too. It also depends on the prices those devices are sold so people will jump faster on them. The Prophet is avaible for just 10€ with a provider contract here in Germany, the Herald not even close. At least we have some very active users already on our side experimenting in putting cooked ROMs on our beloved Herald's. Sooner or later we we will be able to choose which custom ROM we want to put on our devices.
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Yep -i guess also. The wing in america is our chance for cooked roms. Because german romcooker are not very presented (look at ppc-welt.com)
Except you and me - lol
So what can the folks with the Wizard do that we can't as far as ROMs? I just quit using my Wizard (or should I say it quit), and bought my Herald. From everything I see it's the same phone internally. So doesn't it make sense to be able to use a cooked Wizard ROM in a Herald? Of course I don't have the balls to try this myself to see if it works, that's why I'm asking the question.
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So what can the folks with the Wizard do that we can't as far as ROMs? I just quit using my Wizard (or should I say it quit), and bought my Herald. From everything I see it's the same phone internally. So doesn't it make sense to be able to use a cooked Wizard ROM in a Herald? Of course I don't have the balls to try this myself to see if it works, that's why I'm asking the question.
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Wizard uses an "old" os file version = nbf
herald uses = nbh
and the nbh files have to be signed. and we cannot singd it.
That´s the difference. It is not such eays like oin wizard and on hermes they got a prefabricated bootloader with supercid.
for herald they amde it better like for vista etc.
MS is learning how to save their devices
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Wizard uses an "old" os file version = nbf
herald uses = nbh
and the nbh files have to be signed. and we cannot singd it.
That´s the difference. It is not such eays like oin wizard and on hermes they got a prefabricated bootloader with supercid.
for herald they amde it better like for vista etc.
MS is learning how to save their devices
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Exactly, the newer devices follow a higher protected filessystem.
The differences might look minor, but they are effective from being modified.
As papamopps said, its comparable with WinXP's to WinVista's protection.
But I'm certain we will have our custom ROM some time soon.
Other XDA communities like PDAMobiz or PDAViet and many others
are having their hands on HTC devices, so I wouldn't worry much,
at least we will get official WM6 ROMs and that's something.
It's just a matter of time... the Wing is the hottest selling PDAphone so far in the US.
And believe me, I bring up custom ROMs for the Herald/Atlas/Wing every chance I get!
-Richard
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It's just a matter of time... the Wing is the hottest selling PDAphone so far in the US.
And believe me, I bring up custom ROMs for the Herald/Atlas/Wing every chance I get!
-Richard
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Yippeeehhhh
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Yippeeehhhh
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I second that!
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I second that!
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It's just a matter of time... i agreee
the ship rom sucks
I also hink it's only a matter of time but for the time been I have had the herald (tmobile Wing) for 3 days and I am soooooo frudtrated with the lack of program memory (not storage memory) on this thing it's a nice phone but geeees the rom on it sucks I cant even have half the programs I had on my Wizard installed 15 programs and the 16th one was igo gps nav and it wont run unless I do a soft reset from lack of memory so i am thinking to go back to the Wizard untill I REAL custom rom is available without all the T-Mobile crap in it I tried to get some of the stuff out but not much luck most of the Tmobile stuff is par of the rom as far as I can tell. 3 days and I really miss the core 2.0n I have on the wizard WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
Not sure if i agree about best selling, Dash still outsells the wing in my area of the us Minnesota. The low memory issues is still really annoying me. official rom is out there somewhere?
With the latest rom from the danish retailer Dangaard, my P4350 is running quite well, haven't had memory problems since flashing it.
Well i guess the people are getting confused by the herald... i bought it because i knew that there is an dual core inside + windows mobile 6! If you don't know that the processor is a dual core, then 201Mhz just seem to be a bit low... i'm running them now on 260Mhz - kinda battery drain, but the speed is awesome! DVD watching *jammi*
The WM6 fixed a lot of bugs and added features, that are very handy + it has long time support, because of the "windows mobile update" option.
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I also hink it's only a matter of time but for the time been I have had the herald (tmobile Wing) for 3 days and I am soooooo frudtrated with the lack of program memory (not storage memory) on this thing it's a nice phone but geeees the rom on it sucks I cant even have half the programs I had on my Wizard installed 15 programs and the 16th one was igo gps nav and it wont run unless I do a soft reset from lack of memory so i am thinking to go back to the Wizard untill I REAL custom rom is available without all the T-Mobile crap in it I tried to get some of the stuff out but not much luck most of the Tmobile stuff is par of the rom as far as I can tell. 3 days and I really miss the core 2.0n I have on the wizard WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
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lol? 192 ROM + 64 RAM ain't enough?
Ok, i got a 2GB Mini SD for 20€ in it, but even though... 192 MB should be enough for adding programs...
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Well i guess the people are getting confused by the herald... i bought it because i knew that there is an dual core inside + windows mobile 6! If you don't know that the processor is a dual core, then 201Mhz just seem to be a bit low... i'm running them now on 260Mhz - kinda battery drain, but the speed is awesome! DVD watching *jammi*
The WM6 fixed a lot of bugs and added features, that are very handy + it has long time support, because of the "windows mobile update" option.
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Dual Core? lol- where did you get this wisdom?
TI-OMAP 850 Specifications:
Power + Expandability
Processor: Texas Instruments OMAP 850 Dual Core 200 MHz CPU
Memory: 128MB ROM, 64 RAM;
Expansion: One SDIO/SD/MMC Slot, Bluetooth 2,0
Operating System: Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC Phone Edition
Features
Camera: 2.0 MP Stills, Macro Mode, low-resolution video.
Wireless: 'Wi-fi' 802.11b/g, Bluetooth 2.0 (No EDR, Class 2), Infra-red
Phone: GSM/GPRS Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Phone Data: EDGE EGPRS Class B
Battery: 1200mAh Li-Ion
Physical Aspects
Weight: about 150g, 5.29 oz
Dimensions: 4.25" x 2.28" x 0.72", (108 x 58 x 18 mm)
Audio Jack: 2.5mm Phone Audio Jack
Display: 2.8" (7,1cm) 240x320 16-Bit TFT/TFD Transflective
Connector: Mini-USB
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(from the prophet ones)
german source:
http://www.computerbase.de/news/consumer_electronics/kommunikation/2007/april/o2_xda_htc_herald_mai/
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the OMAP850 is not a dual core processor. The Texas Instruments page doesn't state it anywhere. Link to TI OMAP850 site
Yeah - after 30minutes of researching i found that out too... but why does the xda-developers wiki state a dual core in the prohpet running on TI 850?
My ATT Hermes broke and I have a chance to switch to any unit on any carrier in the US. I thought of the Mogul/Sprint because there is good rev A coverage where I live. I ask this because over at the Hermes threads there is allot of different roms and allot of activity going on versus here where it seems like hardly anyone posts here. Should I remain with ATT/Hermes or is the Mogul or possibly Touch a good choice?
I am really liking mine and I came from the hermes. Right now it doesnt have support for rev a evdo, but HTC is supposed to be releasing a new rom to enable it.
The titan doesn't have as much activity because there are only two version of the phone, verizon and sprint. Also, there really isnt a rom kitchen available yet (some are on the works) so thats why there isnt alot of action in that respect.
Over at ppcgeeks.com there is quite a bit more action going on about the mogul.
We are due for a sweet OS upgrade, EVDO update and phone update. This is the most customizable phone out. You can make it into anything. With a little bit of time in you can do alot with a Mogul. I use mine as a wifi hotspot, music center, tv, messenger of all sorts, phone/laptop every day. I dare an IPhone user to try and touch my functions. Almost all online vid is viewable on my Mogul and I have no problem surfing just about any site. As long as you dont anchor it down with an HTC Home mod it runs fast. Its worth every penny. I would stay far far away from any touch phone. At least with the mogul you have the best solid input with the keyboard. Its fast after you figure it out. F__k all other phones. Go Mogul or dont bother.
I've been using DCD 1.69 Kitchen on my Mogul and couldn't be more happy. I have even been working on making my own custom ROM's, so if you are worried about there not being enough ROMs out there, don't. And ture, Sprint and HTC are soon to release a new ROM that enabled GPS and Rev A.
Is the Mogul an upgrade or a downgrade from a Hermes?
My contract is up with ATT/Cingular and I am looking at switching to Alltel because their plans are cheaper (with data/tethering). I currently have a Hermes. However, I do not understand enough about the hardware specs to know if I would be getting a better (faster) processor or slower by switching to the Mogul. Can anyone point me to a side by side comparison between the Hermes and Mogul? Also, I have not yet searched all the posts, but is this "Rev A" referred to here out already? Thanks.
Better than the rest
I have looked into the other phones, and although there are benefits to each the mogul seems to be the best, most well rounded phone out there. Though there may be fewer ROMS available compared to other phones, that may be due to the customizations available through the ROMs that are out there. DCD and some of the others are really stable and have the ability to run almost everything that is out there. Buy an 8 gig card, download the sprint ROM and DCD Rom version based on your cellphone carrier, and have fun.
You may have more RAM on the touch and some others, but functionality due to keyboard and buttons are in the favor of the Tytn/Mogul/xv6800.
I'm on Alltel and I really like my 6800. Pretty much my only gripe about it is constantly checking my available memory, its pretty much always right around 16 megs or available ram.... which gets old sometimes.
but this will probably be my last HTC device I own due to the way they are dealing with all the driver issues ive been reading about. not really much in the way of customer service IMO.
Is there another phone out there with a 2.8 screen (or larger), slide out keyboard, and running Windows Mobile?
my mogul
I love my mogul.. I do..
However, consider a Nokia n800..
It's the best phone i've had, ever. And i've been through 7 or so - maybe more phones in the last 6 months.
Hi guys, I've been the prowd owner of a trinity for nearly 18 months now and am starting to get the old hassle from service providers that "providings" upgrades etc..
The thing is although there is a lot of hardware HTC have out there I just read the bumpf on the HD Blackstone and although its faster processor it doesn't seem to have the functionality of the trinity in the radio dept.
I'm looking for a 500mhz phone thats like the trin. The APX 2500 looks impressive but I don't think the service provider will go for it.
Need something with a little more oompf that is'n going to cripple my monthy spendings. Is there a Phone I can ' Upgrade' to that is running WM OS?
I've been using wm devices since I had a SPV E100. And flashing upgrading, tinkering with them for some time now. I will be developing software as soon as I have the ability to. Probably Mobi Java.
I'm looking for similar size phone with a 500 mhz or faster with video hardware that can output to tv. possibly a keyboard but it's not essential.
I just can't fault the trinity as it's a great all rounder.
Samsung OMNIA
Sales guy quoted me 16 gig on board ram...
642Mhz
I'll let you know if I keep it.
If I do anyone know the best place to flog a Trinity
Nope. it's going back.
OK so the omnia has no d-pad. I think i'll go with the Xperia.
Coming from years of Windows Mobile devices and then a few months with the Iphone 3GS, now yesterday I receive my new Galaxy S from o2.
First thing you notice is just how identical the packaging is to the iphones, how similar the look of the phone, but that's were the similarities end...
For a start you actually get a little guide booklet which is actually quite helpful, not being used to Android, fantastic something desperately needed on the Iphone an removable battery and additional memory via the 8GB card that was supplied with the phone. Then WOW, this phone even with its battery fitted is so very lightweight you hardly feel it in your pocket.
Then you turn it on, greeted with a very flashy Galaxy boot screen, I can't believe my eyes at just how perfect and vibrant the screen is, the extra size, vibrancy and pure resolution over the 3GS is quite simply amazing.
Took me a while to work out that you have to turn of USB debugging to allow access to being able to browse through a windows explorer or the downloadable Kies software, this is what I have missed using the Iphone, being in control of drag and drop music/stuff onto your device, I actually feel like I own this device.
With the restrictions of having to use Itunes which I have never really liked.
Been playing around with these widget things and installing software from the market and loving the live wallpapers...
My first GPS test this morning - very positive, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7563359&postcount=515
I have got a lot to learn with Android, its more like windows mobile than IOS4, yet it seems stable and quick compared to windows mobile, yet gives you more freedom than IOS4, at this time and I know its early days but I keep asking myself why I didn't move to Android sooner, hope I haven't bored you all too much...
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Coming from years of Windows Mobile devices and then a few months with the Iphone 3GS, now yesterday I receive my new Galaxy S from o2.
First thing you notice is just how identical the packaging is to the iphones, how similar the look of the phone, but that's were the similarities end...
For a start you actually get a little guide booklet which is actually quite helpful, not being used to Android, fantastic something desperately needed on the Iphone an removable battery and additional memory via the 8GB card that was supplied with the phone. Then WOW, this phone even with its battery fitted is so very lightweight you hardly feel it in your pocket.
Then you turn it on, greeted with a very flashy Galaxy boot screen, I can't believe my eyes at just how perfect and vibrant the screen is, the extra size, vibrancy and pure resolution over the 3GS is quite simply amazing.
Took me a while to work out that you have to turn of USB debugging to allow access to being able to browse through a windows explorer or the downloadable Kies software, this is what I have missed using the Iphone, being in control of drag and drop music/stuff onto your device, I actually feel like I own this device.
With the restrictions of having to use Itunes which I have never really liked.
Been playing around with these widget things and installing software from the market and loving the live wallpapers...
My first GPS test this morning - very positive, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7563359&postcount=515
I have got a lot to learn with Android, its more like windows mobile than IOS4, yet it seems stable and quick compared to windows mobile, yet gives you more freedom than IOS4, at this time and I know its early days but I keep asking myself why I didn't move to Android sooner, hope I haven't bored you all too much...
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You haven't bored me at all.
I have had exactly the same experience as you. Most people on this forum make it sound like this device is terrible, so it's nice to see someone who hasn't had any real problems and is happy with it. I was starting to think there was something wrong with my phone in that it was actually working.
probably they came from the Apple clouds, that's why.
I came from the Windows World, and this phone is simply magnificent.
It could have been better, if they didn't decide to release so many different variants and Data freqcuencies 850/1900/2100, 900/1900/2100, 850/900/1800/1900
i like the UK version so much because it's unlocked but runs only on 1900, but the Bell version has 850, but locked, and the USA 850 versions has a lot of missing stuff (buttons, front camera, etc), also Locked
but all that aside, software wise, and funtionality wise, this phone it is one tiny little beast, the Android market has more and more software by the days, and accessories are plenty, in fact i got all my accessories before the phone even arrived LOL
but definitely, being able to drag and drop stuff directly to the phone without Itune or Kies it's perfect.
i was surprised to find out the phone even have 5.1 surround sound option when you plug in the headset, it is on the manual, i was bored and started reading the manual
LOL
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It could have been better, if they didn't decide to release so many different variants and Data freqcuencies 850/1900/2100, 900/1900/2100, 850/900/1800/1900
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Not to mention radios, currently got the WCDMA thing going on in Korea. I think it's actually a WCDMA/GMS combo, but I haven't been able to confirm.
From the manual:
사용 주파수 범위 (Frequency Range):
WCDMA 1900/2100
GSM 900
DCS 1700/1800
US PCS 1900
*note, these are actually my rounding/interpretations of the ranges they list, I think it's easier to read than the exact number ranges but I might have misinterpreted 1 or 2. I can post the exact numbers if anyone is interested or can shed light.
*Edit* - Also the 2 variants on the way for U.S. CDMA and 4G. Well, they wanted to sell 10M, it's kind of good for us since we will get more XDA support and people have been successful modding the I9000 root to work for the initial US launches.
Pwew I've just ordered the Galaxy S on Friday and after looking on here at all the complaints I was getting very jittery. I'm the same as you chaps a windows fan and still love my HD2, but its time for a change so Im glad its not all doom and gloom
Thinking about I don't normally comment on something when it's all ok, only when I start getting problems so it makes sense I suppose.
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Pwew I've just ordered the Galaxy S on Friday and after looking on here at all the complaints I was getting very jittery. I'm the same as you chaps a windows fan and still love my HD2, but its time for a change so Im glad its not all doom and gloom
Thinking about I don't normally comment on something when it's all ok, only when I start getting problems so it makes sense I suppose.
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The polls here asking if people are happy typically indicate that people are happy with the devices. It seems that some people haven't tried to get new devices if they had very buggy GPS. It's still unclear if, the somewhat buggy GPS is hardware/software, but the implementation of the hardware has seemed to improve from the limited accounts I've read (I think this is the 3rd, but I don't read the "GPS Poll" thread, so that'd be where to find out for sure).
If you aren't worried about the GPS, there is little to worry about, especially when comparing to other Android devices. You might experience lag, but it depends on many factors and there are fixes available.
Today is my 2nd day im using my new Galaxy S. im very happy with it [ except the wifi seems to be a bit crappy ]
its my first time with android, i used to have HTC Artemis for many years and i enjoyed it. i never *****ed a lot at win mobile but using Android and the fast samsung seems a good relief
so far, very happy with it. i was still a HTC -fan, i wanted the HTC Desire but it was out of stock so i took the Samsung instead. Dont blame me that i pimped it totally Sense / Desire look on the phone hahah
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Today is my 2nd day im using my new Galaxy S. im very happy with it [ except the wifi seems to be a bit crappy ]
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What are the details on the crappy wifi and what firmware are you using? I assume it's on the factory installed firmware? Look into updating, wifi complaints have gone way down to near mute levels since people have updated firmwares. This could be because they have given up on complaining, but I think when people update firmwares they typically say things like "GPS still sucks, X is still present, Y has improved."
If that doesn't fix it, you might have a malfunctioning wifi. I love my speedy 802.11n.
Ik will take al look on the firmware ane update it if possible. Tnx for the headsup.
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additional memory via the 8GB card that was supplied with the phone.
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got a galaxy s from tesco but did not get a 8GB card with it
Same here. I came from a Touch Pro running WM6.1 and can't stop playing with the Galaxy. I already had the freedom to do what I wanted and a really good (if small) screen on the Touch Pro but the integration of everything and the open door that is the marketplace really makes Android shine over current Windows Mobile.
The hardware is excellent and I can't say I've had any issues with wifi nor gps. I'm sitting in the attic of my house at the moment and got six satellites through the roof without issue. Seems to drop wifi after a short amount of time of inactivity but I'm sure that's a power saving thing - certainly connects back up fast whenever it needs to so I'm happy. Just got the usual issue of looking for some case protection now and where to carry it - shirt pocket or on a belt pouch - don't dare to put such a lovely thing in my pocket.
Good design, GREAT processors, fast.....and CRIPPLED at the OS level. Sad.
OK. YOU now know where I stand.
My question is: "For those of us who are more capable than the typical iUser, is it possible to load WM6.5 on the LG Quantum or ANY WM7 phone?" ...seems like a logical solution to me... OR is Microsoft going to release "WP7 Pro" and "WP7 Ultimate" for the low price of $250.00 (w/ a $50 mail-in rebate).
I am currently rocking a Tilt2 with the Energy ROM and loving it too. HOWEVER, I can see that WM6.5 would benefit from a faster proc so,....I`m admittedly jealous.
I have been watching the posts hoping that someone, feeling as I do but far more capable, would get fed-up and find a way to get M6.5 onto one of these new devices. When the Tilt 1 & 2 came out it took (roughly) two weeks before ROMs were being released for us to test. Is there something about the new devices which makes the same thing harder?
I`ve played with the new WP7 phones and I`m NOT impressed with the dumbed-down homescreen.
I waited to buy both of my Tilts until I found a ROM I liked.
I gotta say that you might be alone in this. They're just two completely different OS's. wp7 is built for phones, and built for people who want a no fuss, no muss experience, much like the iPhone. 6.5 is built for the enthusiast who wants all the options. However 6.5 is built like a desktop OS, so it performs and looks like crap. Instead of going through all that trouble, why not just get an HD2?
I have an Omnia 2 with stock 6.5, and I can't wait to switch to wp7. I'm just sick of the upkeep. I don't want to have to check the task manager and watch my RAM consumption. I don't want to go through installs where I have to navigate a file browser. I want something that... "just works". The iphone looks very boring to me, and Android isn't what I want, wp7 for some reason is like the only thing going right now that suits that need.
I agree. i am holding off on an upgrade as i am also using a tilt 2 with cell pro 13.5 Rom with sense 2.1, even overclocked to 710 Mhz just isnt enough. I havent heard any thing i like about wp7 other than hardware and as far as an HD2. Some of us can't stand to not have a hardware keyboard. or mabey thats just me as my last 5 devices have had one.
WP7
This operating system, is too friendly, at first I felt as encapsulated by the Zune and other applications, but processing and speed of the phone is the reward for the lack of knowing where the files or apps are. Although it is agile, quick, surprisingly, compared with 6.5, it lacks that extra "thing" we always had for know more than normal on these devices.
I just transfered to AT&T. And I am not impressed with this WM7 crap. So yea, I might be interested in downgrading to WM6.5 until microsoft gets their head on straight. This was the only phone avalible with a keyboard and good specs. No HD2 avalible for me I'm afraid. Any reason this wouldn't be feasable?
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I just transfered to AT&T. And I am not impressed with this WM7 crap. So yea, I might be interested in downgrading to WM6.5 until microsoft gets their head on straight. This was the only phone avalible with a keyboard and good specs. No HD2 avalible for me I'm afraid. Any reason this wouldn't be feasable?
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I really gotta ask, what on earth makes you say "WM7 crap"?? It's miles above any other OS on the market today. MS really did take the next step in smartphone OS's.
Sure it's got bugs, but it's v1.0, and those are just things that need to be patched. The overall idea and layout of wp7 is genius.
Well for one the almost complete lack of custimization, I don't aregue that its probably a very good OS as far as that goes, but I do not like its lack of features. I'm not even worried about the bugs. MS deciding to be more like apple is, well disappointing, had I wanted an Iphone I would have bought an Iphone. I want to choose what programs I put on the phone, NOT MS. I could give a crap about thier sensitive file system. I choose windows based on thier past OS, I figured WM7 must be even better, but its a step backwards in usability for ME.
Again, I love the Hardware of this phone, I love the keyboard, hate the OS. Would like to see if 6.5 could be ported to it (its got the same processor as the HD2 right? I'm not a programmer so I don't know what else is needed to adjust the OS)
I too, think 6.5 deserved better hardware. I get more done on my TP2 than I can on my paper weight Blackberry.
I don't think it's possible to get a port of WM6.5 to the LG Quantum due to the lack of drivers for WM6.5 (I'm pretty sure that a Windows CE 7 nk.exe can't be used with programs that are designed for Windows CE 5.2.xx.xxxx). On the other hand, we will have to keep our eyes open for when it gets closer towards Microsoft releasing Windows Phone 7 (Enterprise Edition) to see if we can indeed do anything with it.