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To Quick For Keyboard?

I remember on my Sidekick I was able to type as fast as I want and every letter would type in... But with my Hermes I have to type slow in order for it to type all my letters correctly.. is there anything I can do so I can type fast and it be accurate?

also, i find that sometimes when im typing one key locks in and types that letter alot until i hit delete.. example: "Hey how are youuuuuuuuuuuuu doing" and it locks typing the U until i hit delete.. any way to fix this?

Hi, there isnt really much you can do about it, thats crappy WM behavior, I used to have the exact same thing happen to me.
I am running the lvsw 3.20.2.1 WM6 and hadnt had any of the mentioned problems, actually I had forgotten all about it happening, untill I read this
Im not saying an that flashing a new rom is definitely going to help you, but pretty much all the crappy typing issues dissapeared in this build for me.

Difficult to pin this one down. As Chaoticdruid says it might help to change ROM. I do not get this very often and when I do it's not obvious what the cause is. Ensure of course nothing else is running when typing and a good bit of free space in Main memory. What is clear is that it's NOT routinely slow on all our devices so it will be possible to speed it up one way or another.
The repeating letters issue may have a different cause. If you get repeating letters and the keyboard is generally laggy then the above comments apply. However, if speed is generally good then I think this is the pretty well known issue of physical/hardware issues with the keyboard. This is commonly shown by some letters not working without an extra firm press and as stated repeating letters.
Mike

My opinion
I'm far from knowing what I'm talking about but I have noticed a few things about the problem you are having (happens to me as well).
I do agree that things work faster/smoother when there are no programs running in the background (memory stuff). What has recently helped me was to shut off anything that makes my unit have to think...namely any autocorrect or word suggestion stuff. I had mine suggesting up to four words while I was typing. It seemed my typing was to fast for this process so when I shut it off, it helped speed things up quite a bit! I hope this works for you! It would be nice to feel like I have made some sort of contribution, so many people have been kind enough to help me out on this site.

Just wanna share my test....
I got lazy keys on my Dopod 838 Pro also after upgrading to official Dopod WM6 ROM. At this time I had more than 1500 SMS stored. Since the lazy keys were affecting on SMS/Email writing and not on other apps, I was thinking whether the problem is related somehow to this huge number of stored SMS.
I deleted all my SMS and directly afterwards the keyboard is responsive again.
Can't validate this as I need to wait for my SMS to grow again to see if the lazy keys problem returns... but maybe you can check from yours if you have huge number of stored SMS/email.

strezz said:
Just wanna share my test....
I got lazy keys on my Dopod 838 Pro also after upgrading to official Dopod WM6 ROM. At this time I had more than 1500 SMS stored. Since the lazy keys were affecting on SMS/Email writing and not on other apps, I was thinking whether the problem is related somehow to this huge number of stored SMS.
I deleted all my SMS and directly afterwards the keyboard is responsive again.
Can't validate this as I need to wait for my SMS to grow again to see if the lazy keys problem returns... but maybe you can check from yours if you have huge number of stored SMS/email.
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I noticed this also, whenever I have 1000+ SMS stored on my phone the typing really slows down to a point where I type a sentence and wait a few seconds for the device to catch up

Sandhawk said:
I noticed this also, whenever I have 1000+ SMS stored on my phone the typing really slows down to a point where I type a sentence and wait a few seconds for the device to catch up
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This is driving me nuts...I generally type fast but get lots of mistakes

Annoying sms Problem... temp fix

So, I'm currently running open touch 5.0 on my Wing. Outdated, I know, but I like it. Anyway, I've noticed that if when sending an sms in a threaded sms, if your text entry area is shortened, if you open the onscreen keyboard, it corrects itself. I might be late, but I noticed

So simple, yet so brilliant. I had not seen this solution posted before. It might be out there, but this is the first I'd heard of it. I love it! Thanks for sharing!

SMS bug - WM6.5

FYI:
HTC have confirmed that there is a bug with WM6.5 that shows that you have an unread message, while you clearly don't.
A fix is being prepared by Microsoft.

Never knew about that...
But knew about alarm ringing alarm and notification sound mixed.... and alarm does not stop... in the morning.
Battery additional info reseted to "0" so no historical info there....
No option to light signal for more that 5 minutes (thank god there is a registry tweak for that).
Well. I'll keep waiting.
PMoto

I am having exactly the same issue and posted it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579772
Thanks for the update loadstone007...hope both MS and HTC start rolling out fixes for the various bugs in 6.5!
Mo

What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.

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What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.
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No I dont have these issues, but then again I dont use HTC Sense. Are these Sense related or Windows 6.5 related?

toth42 said:
What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.
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Totally with ya on this one, toth42. I'm having exactly the same issues and think it's Sense rather than WinMo 6.5 itself...

toth42 said:
What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.
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Yup - I've seen all of these. Does seem a little buggy...

-Sie- said:
No I dont have these issues, but then again I dont use HTC Sense. Are these Sense related or Windows 6.5 related?
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Yea, I'll say it's sense/manila/tf3d, but all the problems occured after the official 6.5 update.
BTW, the one bug, with last SMS's being hidden by keyboard and textbox, is the same in WinMo(inbox). Just check, go to a conversation in your inbox, and whip up the keyboard. The keyboard and text-box takes most of the screen, and what u see above it, is not the last message of the conversation.

They are not bugs, just bad ideas badly implemented i suppose. Yep, the one with send button is driving me crazy

zimmicz said:
They are not bugs, just bad ideas badly implemented i suppose. Yep, the one with send button is driving me crazy
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I seem to recall there was a hotfix for this for 6.1, called something like "hotfix for fixing the problem with the extra white line when writing sms"? And still they don't implement the fix in the next version?

Hey guys i got the issue fixed using a little tool to clear the message count. Check this post, and thanks to onthemail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1519862&postcount=3
Run the program and do a soft reset - wait a couple of seconds and the annoying green message count will disappear. If not, do it all again (run program and soft reset) and it should def work.
Good luck
Cheers
Mo

Although I'm not experiencing the exact same problem the topic starter posted, I'm also having a problem with the HTC SMS. When I go to contacts, choose one of my favorites, go to the sms tab and send an sms from there, sometimes the sms doesn't show up in the thread, it just totally disappears from the device. As far as I know the messages are sent to the person, but it's annoying to me to not be able to read back what I wrote.
Anyone familiar with this problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks in advance!

I get quite a few Joke texts sent, but the long ones allways get cut off near the end. Some of them must be 4 or more texts long. I didnt have this problem until i upgraded to win 6.5. I allways miss the punchline is this a known problem and is there a fix or is there i setting i have missed.

mrcol said:
I get quite a few Joke texts sent, but the long ones allways get cut off near the end. Some of them must be 4 or more texts long. I didnt have this problem until i upgraded to win 6.5. I allways miss the punchline is this a known problem and is there a fix or is there i setting i have missed.
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It's a bug in WM6.5 unfortunately. You have to go in to Windows messages to see the entire message (as opposed to HTC's sense UI)..it's annoying and i hope HTC come out with a rom update very soon as this is just one of many many bugs and annoying quirks in 6.5. Argh!

HTC Pure Hotfix
While this doesn't address the problems posted inthis thread, I thought that I would just use this existing thread for an FYI. HTC has released a couple of new hotfixes this morning for the Pure and Tilt 2
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/

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While this doesn't address the problems posted inthis thread, I thought that I would just use this existing thread for an FYI. HTC has released a couple of new hotfixes this morning for the Pure and Tilt 2
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
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Have you successfully installed these?
I received "Device not compatable" errors on both files.
Prolly because of LEO ported manila.
Oh well, thanks anyways Denco7.

I have the stock AT&T rom on my Pure and both updates worked fine.

I also have this problem, so annoying! Microsoft need to get a fix ASAP!

SMS/texts in wrong order if sent/received with same time/date

is there a fix for this? tried searching but couldn't find anything, just a lot of threads about the delay to reply which works slightly better due to new fix released today
anyway, in conversation mode, if I reply quickly back to a text message within the same minute then it goes before the text I'm replying to instead of after it!
not exactly good if you send quick texts often as the conversation looks a mess!
thanks

Hi,
Try installing the latest hotfix for SMS. They've sorted out the little bugs in texting. You can download it from: http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
Hope this helps!

hitenpatel227 said:
Hi,
Try installing the latest hotfix for SMS. They've sorted out the little bugs in texting. You can download it from: http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
Hope this helps!
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thanks for reply
I'd already installed the update earlier today and it's still there . Surely it doesn't just look at hour:min in the text message details and list them. Wouldn't it work better if they also date/stamp (including seconds) the text when it's received so it will work OK in conversation mode?
try it yourself and send a text to yourself and when you get it, reply straight away and it will put the 2nd sent text before the text you received in the 1st place!

This happened to me where all my Texts were at the top of the conversation and all my friend's replied were at the bottom. Is this the same problem you had? I solved it by changing the message type to unthreaded in settings.

i have same issue .. my gf replies straight away and it appears she answered my question before i asked it .. its very annoying

Took me a LOT of searching when I had the same problem, but this fixed it for me:
Edit the following registry key...
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
add a DWORD key "TrustTimeZoneField" and give it a value of "0"
No more time zone issues. This is caused by your operator I think sending the wrong time to the phone...
SOURCE: http://www.mattgibson.ca/2008/04/13...gsm3g-windows-mobile-56-smartphonespocketpcs/

this change only solve if u r in diff timezone.
but we are both in same timezone.... but sms timestamp is not basic on our mobile time setting is basic on their one
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Took me a LOT of searching when I had the same problem, but this fixed it for me:
Edit the following registry key...
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
add a DWORD key "TrustTimeZoneField" and give it a value of "0"
No more time zone issues. This is caused by your operator I think sending the wrong time to the phone...
SOURCE: http://www.mattgibson.ca/2008/04/13...gsm3g-windows-mobile-56-smartphonespocketpcs/
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I'd faced this issue too. The way I could fix it was set the Time of my HD2 about 2-3 Mins forward than the current time. That solved the SMS order issue.
Actually the issue seems to be due to the Timestamp of the SMS which is given by the Mobile Operator being a bit ahead than the time on your HTC Device.

Did you try it? Was happening in the same time zone with me and this solved it.
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this change only solve if u r in diff timezone.
but we are both in same timezone.... but sms timestamp is not basic on our mobile time setting is basic on their one
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yes i tried... it still same.

mkent_barbados said:
Did you try it? Was happening in the same time zone with me and this solved it.
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sadly that doesn't resolve it
Tanmay® said:
I'd faced this issue too. The way I could fix it was set the Time of my HD2 about 2-3 Mins forward than the current time. That solved the SMS order issue.
Actually the issue seems to be due to the Timestamp of the SMS which is given by the Mobile Operator being a bit ahead than the time on your HTC Device.
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that's no fix as the problem is then reversed as then incoming texts go before the ones you've sent out . I found that out straight away as I normally put my phone fast anyway but then got incoming texts going before my initial texts! Even just 1 minute ahead doesn't work as texts sent/received within that minute get mixed up!
my G1 used to time stamp them as they came in with the time of the handset, not time sent or network time. Good for conversation on G1 as it got them in the right order but it had it's flaw. The problem being you didn't know when it had actually been sent to you if your phone had been off for any amount of time as it simply time stamped when received when you'd switched your phone back on!
whoever tested the SMS feature of this phone obviously didn't do a good job at all strange that such a great feature handset trips up on one of the most used features that most other handsets work perfectly fine with

There's still no fix for this?

still no fix for this??

BadBoy8 said:
still no fix for this??
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its annoying that little bugs like this have not been addressed by HTC

same issue here
i am wondering when will HTC put a fix to this fundamental problem on a core function such as SMS. Seriously, the HTC messaging is nice, but with the lag and timestamp issue, it makes HTC seem like they're trying too hard and not focusing on making the phone work well first than look nice. I am frustrated as hell too, but trips to the service centre only gave me answers like "wait for a software release/upgrade", i am wondering whether do you receive any problems with the touch screen? the screen actually jitters and shakes up and down even when your finger is still frequently. i have changed the main board 2 times already and it happens still.
Btw, my set's from singapore.

Fix made! Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6116612

[Q] Sms sent lag, HELP

Hello all, I have a big issue with this tilt 2 and that is the sms sent and pressing "X" to go back in the inbox of sms messages, it lags for a good 10-20 and sometimes the whole screen would freeze up because of this.
So I recently bought a tilt 2 and the seller told me he flashed it to a new rom which whenever I turn the phone on, it says Energy Rom so does anyone have a solution to this sms sent lag other than deleting all text messages daily, please help!
Thank you all in advance for your time and suggestions!

Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.

Teej53214 said:
Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.
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And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.

Lennyz1988 said:
And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.
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I'd have to agree. A SMS is about 1/7th of a kilobyte and a kilobyte is practically nothing. Sending a SMS doesn't cause a lag. I've been sending SMS since 1998 and WM wasn't even an option back then. It's all Microsoft and their crap OS.

I have to agree, it is the crappy htc sms client to blame, so I'm guessing noone have found a solution to this yet? Have you guys tried to hotfix from htc site?
I owned the tilt 1 and there was no lag at all in sms.

Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?

Girli3e said:
Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?
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I can help you picking a rom and flashing, just pm me

Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..

Outlaw78a said:
Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..
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And what version of sense do you use? 2.1?

@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please

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@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please
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What Exactly Do You Need Help With?
Maybe I Could Try To Help You.

I am attempting to change the interface on my tilt 2 to android or something else so the sms in threaded mode won't lag and plus im tired of the WinMo appearance. =)
Thank you for your time!

Hi I have the same problem as you and it drives me crazy. tell me if im correct: You are complaining about the fact that after you press x to close a threaded text conversation it lags getting back to the inbox. On mine everything changes back to the inbox except for the top of the screen and then it just sits there till it eventually goes bqck. Your not reffering to how long it takes for you friend to receive the text, correct? Ive tired installing the most current sms program from htc that was taking from another phone and although it looked much niicer and had some cool features it didnt work right and i had to switch back. Maybe somone reading this can suggest something. It sdriving me crazy. as far as changing from the windows look which either you mean what they call titanium which is that homescreen where you have everything in alist and you can scroll up and own through it or do you you mean what they call touch flo or sense where you move along the bottom of the screen through tabs? either way i would highly recomend spb mobile shell which will make your phone similar to android layout. It works great and is reqally easy to customize everything. or at least touch flo/sense with what they call cookies home tab which helps you customize your home screen. Let me know whcih one you have and which one you want and ill help you. I dont know how to program but i do know how to use the phone well, and customize it thanks to all the developers here who provide us with so much to do it with.

@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.

Do you hava a lot of sms or e-mail saved on the phone? That can cause it to bog down.

Yeah, but I originally owned the tilt 1 and had over 4,000 text message and encounter no problem sending out text messages.

Girli3e said:
@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.
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i wish someone could help us with the lag, lately ive just learnt to be patient, though that is a little ridiculous. There is a sms program from htc (thecompany that makes the phone) that is much nicer and did not have the lag. I did have some other issues but maybe it will work for you. Search in xda for updated htc sms app and see if you can find it. as far as anroid goes I am trying to get mine to work properly and have still not got it to connect to sprint. Its a work in progress and not everything works so i dont think you would want to switch to it permanently. Give it a shot though its very cool and gets better every few days. As of know I think the camera is still not working but most everything else is. I would recomend spb mobile shell. watch some videos on youtube although you will be able to customize it yourself completely. Youll need to play with it to figure out how to customize it but its pretty easy just drag and drop type of stuff with anything on the phone. It looks and works like android but youll still be suing windows mobile. Its works great for me and i wouldnt be able to keep this phone if not for it. I hope that helps.