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Mark message read when first opened, not delayed

I tried searching but couldn't find anything to solve my problem, maybe I was searching for the wrong thing but here's my dilemma.
I have a brand new Sprint TP2.
When I read a text message on the messages tab in Manila, neither the little number in the scroll bar or icon in the notifications bar goes away (marking it as read) unless I leave it on the message for an extended period of time. Does anyone know a registry key I can edit to shorten this time, or another work around.
Thanks!

I noticed the exact same thing... really annoying when the text messages are short and you can read it in a split second... seems to have some sort of a time limit before the notification goes away...
there has to be a registry file that can be edited to make the time go to 0...

Yep, does my head in too!
There HAS to be a way to reduce or remove this...
Anyone?

Yes I've noticed this too.. It's very annoying.
What you'll also notice is if you are texting someone with the WM6 interface and keep the contact's text window open, it never marks new texts as unread. So when you go back you'll have all these new texts.
However if you use HTC's interface you don't have this problem but the HTC's interface doesn't work very well and it's not very dominant.

markyochoa said:
Yes I've noticed this too.. It's very annoying.
What you'll also notice is if you are texting someone with the WM6 interface and keep the contact's text window open, it never marks new texts as unread. So when you go back you'll have all these new texts.
However if you use HTC's interface you don't have this problem but the HTC's interface doesn't work very well and it's not very dominant.
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YES! I couldn't pinpoint what the problem was, but that is ANOTHER issue I'd like to fix.

See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560100
Copy the dll to your windows directory and reboot and all will be well.

expediter said:
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560100
Copy the dll to your windows directory and reboot and all will be well.
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Why didnt you just link the file too? lol
This works great. Thanks to Yay for this
Just unzip and copy to your windows folder overwriting your existing copy
as always BACKUP YOUR DATA and dont blame me for anything you do to your phone
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Replace Sense 2.5 Laggy Messaging with 2.1

Hey every1. I found this mod in the HD forum, thought I'd share it here as it works on my TP2, and SHOULD work on ur topaz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608162
It will replace ur laggy sense 2.5 messaging client with the lightning fast 2.1 one.

Maedhros, Thank you for sharing this and if it works well in Topaz then that is wonderful news as that was the only issue that is holding me back from flashing sense 2.5 in my Topaz

Is there a CAB for this?

It would be really nice, if possible, to have this made into a .CAB for the people that aren't very happy, or comfortable with replacing files. Backed up or not.
Code:

there is a cab. have a search. and it does work. id find it but I'm not on my computer. using phone atm

this seems to be the only thread to address the lag in messaging with a viable solution, but like many, I don't like to downgrade anything, I guess we should wait for HTC to provide the same patch they did for the HD2...anyway, it's a shame that they take so long.
congrats anyhow for this imaginative solution

nippur4 said:
this seems to be the only thread to address the lag in messaging with a viable solution, but like many, I don't like to downgrade anything, I guess we should wait for HTC to provide the same patch they did for the HD2...anyway, it's a shame that they take so long.
congrats anyhow for this imaginative solution
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Here's the HTC hotfix for Leo based ROMs

The sms fix works
Hi
I just installed the LEO sms hotfix from HTC on my Topaz, and now there is now lag in sms.
I use Dutty R6 ROM.

There is still this annoying lag when I try to type. Especially with the space bar not working. This really messes it up.
I've been playing with the replacing it with SENSE 2.1 messaging.. and it works great - BUT:
The text indicator (That blinking thingy that says where you are with typing..) is nog appearing. Anyone know how to fix this? It's probably a messed up registry key or something, I don't know.
Or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks again.

Michiel0211 said:
There is still this annoying lag when I try to type. Especially with the space bar not working. This really messes it up.
I've been playing with the replacing it with SENSE 2.1 messaging.. and it works great - BUT:
The text indicator (That blinking thingy that says where you are with typing..) is nog appearing. Anyone know how to fix this? It's probably a messed up registry key or something, I don't know.
Or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks again.
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Just install the hot fix, no need to revert your Sense messaging.

I installed the hotfix,
Hell I even tried Nat's latest rom which has the hotfix build in. It's all fun and games to load texts real quick, but typing is still a *****. Topaz is just not equipped to handle the MESSAGING client from HTC.
I get to type smooth for the first SMS, but if I reply and there is already another one there too.. things lag up. I text mega-quick and when I'm done.. it looks like this:
hellomy name ismichiel ant i wouldliketootell you
The space bar isn't working half the freaking time. I have to wait a second after EVERY word and press it firmly. Tried everything, even screen realignment. I installed the revert-patch - and bam; I can type like thunder and lightning again. But just missing the cursor. No real big deal though.. just hoping someone knows how to fix it.

SMS/texts in wrong order if sent/received with same time/date

is there a fix for this? tried searching but couldn't find anything, just a lot of threads about the delay to reply which works slightly better due to new fix released today
anyway, in conversation mode, if I reply quickly back to a text message within the same minute then it goes before the text I'm replying to instead of after it!
not exactly good if you send quick texts often as the conversation looks a mess!
thanks

Hi,
Try installing the latest hotfix for SMS. They've sorted out the little bugs in texting. You can download it from: http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
Hope this helps!

hitenpatel227 said:
Hi,
Try installing the latest hotfix for SMS. They've sorted out the little bugs in texting. You can download it from: http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
Hope this helps!
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thanks for reply
I'd already installed the update earlier today and it's still there . Surely it doesn't just look at hour:min in the text message details and list them. Wouldn't it work better if they also date/stamp (including seconds) the text when it's received so it will work OK in conversation mode?
try it yourself and send a text to yourself and when you get it, reply straight away and it will put the 2nd sent text before the text you received in the 1st place!

This happened to me where all my Texts were at the top of the conversation and all my friend's replied were at the bottom. Is this the same problem you had? I solved it by changing the message type to unthreaded in settings.

i have same issue .. my gf replies straight away and it appears she answered my question before i asked it .. its very annoying

Took me a LOT of searching when I had the same problem, but this fixed it for me:
Edit the following registry key...
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
add a DWORD key "TrustTimeZoneField" and give it a value of "0"
No more time zone issues. This is caused by your operator I think sending the wrong time to the phone...
SOURCE: http://www.mattgibson.ca/2008/04/13...gsm3g-windows-mobile-56-smartphonespocketpcs/

this change only solve if u r in diff timezone.
but we are both in same timezone.... but sms timestamp is not basic on our mobile time setting is basic on their one
mkent_barbados said:
Took me a LOT of searching when I had the same problem, but this fixed it for me:
Edit the following registry key...
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
add a DWORD key "TrustTimeZoneField" and give it a value of "0"
No more time zone issues. This is caused by your operator I think sending the wrong time to the phone...
SOURCE: http://www.mattgibson.ca/2008/04/13...gsm3g-windows-mobile-56-smartphonespocketpcs/
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I'd faced this issue too. The way I could fix it was set the Time of my HD2 about 2-3 Mins forward than the current time. That solved the SMS order issue.
Actually the issue seems to be due to the Timestamp of the SMS which is given by the Mobile Operator being a bit ahead than the time on your HTC Device.

Did you try it? Was happening in the same time zone with me and this solved it.
harky said:
this change only solve if u r in diff timezone.
but we are both in same timezone.... but sms timestamp is not basic on our mobile time setting is basic on their one
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yes i tried... it still same.

mkent_barbados said:
Did you try it? Was happening in the same time zone with me and this solved it.
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sadly that doesn't resolve it
Tanmay® said:
I'd faced this issue too. The way I could fix it was set the Time of my HD2 about 2-3 Mins forward than the current time. That solved the SMS order issue.
Actually the issue seems to be due to the Timestamp of the SMS which is given by the Mobile Operator being a bit ahead than the time on your HTC Device.
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that's no fix as the problem is then reversed as then incoming texts go before the ones you've sent out . I found that out straight away as I normally put my phone fast anyway but then got incoming texts going before my initial texts! Even just 1 minute ahead doesn't work as texts sent/received within that minute get mixed up!
my G1 used to time stamp them as they came in with the time of the handset, not time sent or network time. Good for conversation on G1 as it got them in the right order but it had it's flaw. The problem being you didn't know when it had actually been sent to you if your phone had been off for any amount of time as it simply time stamped when received when you'd switched your phone back on!
whoever tested the SMS feature of this phone obviously didn't do a good job at all strange that such a great feature handset trips up on one of the most used features that most other handsets work perfectly fine with

There's still no fix for this?

still no fix for this??

BadBoy8 said:
still no fix for this??
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its annoying that little bugs like this have not been addressed by HTC

same issue here
i am wondering when will HTC put a fix to this fundamental problem on a core function such as SMS. Seriously, the HTC messaging is nice, but with the lag and timestamp issue, it makes HTC seem like they're trying too hard and not focusing on making the phone work well first than look nice. I am frustrated as hell too, but trips to the service centre only gave me answers like "wait for a software release/upgrade", i am wondering whether do you receive any problems with the touch screen? the screen actually jitters and shakes up and down even when your finger is still frequently. i have changed the main board 2 times already and it happens still.
Btw, my set's from singapore.

Fix made! Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6116612

A few bugs ive noticed... Any fixes?

Hello, i am running 1.66 rom on a generic htc hd2 with a t-mobile contract.
I cant update to the very latest rom because theyve only released it for branded phones!
The first bug ive comes across is the Facebook profile pictures in my favourites list sometimes switch around betweeen different people, so say joe's profile picture appears on bills name! happens every so often, and its very irritating. the only solution is to delete both contacts and re enter them into the phone!
The second is when im texting, at the start of the text, after i have done a few characters, sometimes it scrolls up to the last text and selects it, meaning i can still type, but i cant see what im typing, the keyboard covers everything im typing.
Incredibly irritating, i then have to minimize the keyboard, then maximize it aagain.
Also, a new occurance, when i switch on my phone it says launching htc sence and stays there for ages, when i click the cross, i get onto my phone, its as if sence had already loaded and just not removing the message.
The next thing is the wifi, is it meant to switch off affter a while? my battery went from 100 percent to 0 in about 5 hours! (not even joking) i just leaave it off now..
OOh and whilst im at it, one more thing. Can you sync your emails over data conneection? It always displays 'synchronisation error' when ever i try to sync over data connection, but on wifi it connects and downloads perfectly!
Any ideas on any of these issues? has anyone else experienced them?
thanks in advance

stevemilw said:
I cant update to the very latest rom because theyve only released it for branded phones!
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Flash a custom ROM, they are far superior.
stevemilw said:
The first bug ive comes across is the Facebook profile pictures in my favourites list sometimes switch around betweeen different people, so say joe's profile picture appears on bills name! happens every so often, and its very irritating. the only solution is to delete both contacts and re enter them into the phone!
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I don't use the Facebook app as it is absolutely usless, but after a search I found this -'Go into all people then select your contact. Then select Edit Contact. Then press where the profile picture should be. A 'Set Contact Photo' option should pop up. Next to the Facebook profile it should have a downloading icon. Once that was done i selected Facebook Profile and all was working.'
stevemilw said:
The second is when im texting, at the start of the text, after i have done a few characters, sometimes it scrolls up to the last text and selects it, meaning i can still type, but i cant see what im typing, the keyboard covers everything im typing.
Incredibly irritating, i then have to minimize the keyboard, then maximize it aagain.
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There is an SMS update from the HTC website, but I believe this just addresses SMS failure to deliver issues. However, flashing a custom ROM with 235xx (WM 6.5.x) will definately eliminate this problem, as it uses a different SMS application. I'd assume flashing a custom 21907 (WM 6.5) would fix it too.
stevemilw said:
Also, a new occurance, when i switch on my phone it says launching htc sence and stays there for ages, when i click the cross, i get onto my phone, its as if sence had already loaded and just not removing the message.
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I get this from time to time on my Energy ROM, I don't know what causes it, it doesn't really bother me.
stevemilw said:
The next thing is the wifi, is it meant to switch off affter a while? my battery went from 100 percent to 0 in about 5 hours! (not even joking) i just leaave it off now..
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I am assuming you have BSB Tweaks installed? If so you have the 'Wifi Standby' option in Connections selected on. If you don't have it, download it and make sure it's disabled.
stevemilw said:
OOh and whilst im at it, one more thing. Can you sync your emails over data conneection? It always displays 'synchronisation error' when ever i try to sync over data connection, but on wifi it connects and downloads perfectly!
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I've done a search using the forums search function, (hint hint) and found this it seems to have helped someone with this same problem with their HD2.

stevemilw said:
The second is when im texting, at the start of the text, after i have done a few characters, sometimes it scrolls up to the last text and selects it, meaning i can still type, but i cant see what im typing, the keyboard covers everything im typing.
Incredibly irritating, i then have to minimize the keyboard, then maximize it aagain.
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I get this regularly (and also having the keyboard go mental sometimes, switching character sets, entering characters when I'm trying to backspace etc). Seems worse when the phone's hot or when I'm outside and it's windy! But that might just be a coincidence.
I actually sent the phone back to HTC a month or two ago (their customer service was fantastic btw - picked up the phone on a Monday, I had it back by Friday all by courier).
There was a note in there saying they'd reconnected the touchscreen. Everything seemed okay for a while but it's doing it again (I've never dropped the phone or anything). Wonder if it's a loose connector or something.
Mine's unbranded, so I'm waiting for the next ROM update (currently 1.66). If that doesn't fix it I'll ask for a replacement phone (not a fixed one).

There is an SMS update from the HTC website, but I believe this just addresses SMS failure to deliver issues. However, flashing a custom ROM with 235xx (WM 6.5.x) will definately eliminate this problem, as it uses a different SMS application. I'd assume flashing a custom 21907 (WM 6.5) would fix it too.
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thanks for the help! You say i would benefit from flashing a custom rom 235xx, what type of rom is that? for instance you have energy rom etc. Sorry if im sounding like a noob, but i like the original layout of my hd2, and dont want too change it too much if possible, but i would like the performance increases that come with it. thanks

stevemilw said:
thanks for the help! You say i would benefit from flashing a custom rom 235xx, what type of rom is that? for instance you have energy rom etc. Sorry if im sounding like a noob, but i like the original layout of my hd2, and dont want too change it too much if possible, but i would like the performance increases that come with it. thanks
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253xx puts the Start button at the bottom of the screen and makes menus and scroll bars bigger, it's called WM 6.5.x.
219xx is the stock look with the Start button at the top and no so finger friendly menu systems.
That's the basics of the differences between them both.

ok thanks i think ill installl standard reference energy rom 235xx one.
Do i need to change my radio before i flash? i have hspl installed.
The reason being is that i have changed the radio rom before and the signal was no where near as good as the stock radio rom. So i flashed back.

stevemilw said:
ok thanks i think ill installl standard reference energy rom 235xx one.
Do i need to change my radio before i flash? i have hspl installed.
The reason being is that i have changed the radio rom before and the signal was no where near as good as the stock radio rom. So i flashed back.
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If you have an international HD2 you have to install a 2.xx.50.xx radio before you flash the Energy ROM. if you leave a 2.xx.51.xx radio on the device you'll brick it.

ok thanks, im gonna update the rom now. The rom i have currently is far superior, but i will flash anyway and make the compromise.
Thanks

flangepiece said:
There was a note in there saying they'd reconnected the touchscreen. Everything seemed okay for a while but it's doing it again (I've never dropped the phone or anything). Wonder if it's a loose connector or something.
Mine's unbranded, so I'm waiting for the next ROM update (currently 1.66). If that doesn't fix it I'll ask for a replacement phone (not a fixed one).
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Thank you for your feedback!
And also thank you the OP who posted about that SMS problem- which I kept reporting with no echoes.
1) Yeah "reconnected the touchscreen" my @ss. That problem was fixed as soon as I changed ROM.
2) "theres a patch for problem with SMS", my @ss, I installed it did not fix anything- Also, if you read the rom's releases notes everything is "fixing the sms". They forget to mention that they moved the "task manager" in rom 1.66 and changed a few other things-
3) i still had lot of bugs with that rom and device. Now some of them are removed and I'm using Artemis 22A- A few bugs but all minor so far- so I finally start to "enjo..."erm hard word to say after so many months of troubles.
4) also for the "quietly brilliant support" you mention, I would not be so happy if you really knows what happens there: it's likely they will swap your device with 2nd hand device as they discontinued the manufacture of new devices. Also they had shortage of 1 part and they took it from random devices...
My point is you also risk to get 2nd spares part or the whole 2nd hand part... not too nice as it does not means that the original fault/flaw is fixed, and its gambling until your warranty expires...

[Q] Sms sent lag, HELP

Hello all, I have a big issue with this tilt 2 and that is the sms sent and pressing "X" to go back in the inbox of sms messages, it lags for a good 10-20 and sometimes the whole screen would freeze up because of this.
So I recently bought a tilt 2 and the seller told me he flashed it to a new rom which whenever I turn the phone on, it says Energy Rom so does anyone have a solution to this sms sent lag other than deleting all text messages daily, please help!
Thank you all in advance for your time and suggestions!

Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.

Teej53214 said:
Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.
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And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.

Lennyz1988 said:
And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.
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I'd have to agree. A SMS is about 1/7th of a kilobyte and a kilobyte is practically nothing. Sending a SMS doesn't cause a lag. I've been sending SMS since 1998 and WM wasn't even an option back then. It's all Microsoft and their crap OS.

I have to agree, it is the crappy htc sms client to blame, so I'm guessing noone have found a solution to this yet? Have you guys tried to hotfix from htc site?
I owned the tilt 1 and there was no lag at all in sms.

Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?

Girli3e said:
Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?
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I can help you picking a rom and flashing, just pm me

Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..

Outlaw78a said:
Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..
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And what version of sense do you use? 2.1?

@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please

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@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please
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What Exactly Do You Need Help With?
Maybe I Could Try To Help You.

I am attempting to change the interface on my tilt 2 to android or something else so the sms in threaded mode won't lag and plus im tired of the WinMo appearance. =)
Thank you for your time!

Hi I have the same problem as you and it drives me crazy. tell me if im correct: You are complaining about the fact that after you press x to close a threaded text conversation it lags getting back to the inbox. On mine everything changes back to the inbox except for the top of the screen and then it just sits there till it eventually goes bqck. Your not reffering to how long it takes for you friend to receive the text, correct? Ive tired installing the most current sms program from htc that was taking from another phone and although it looked much niicer and had some cool features it didnt work right and i had to switch back. Maybe somone reading this can suggest something. It sdriving me crazy. as far as changing from the windows look which either you mean what they call titanium which is that homescreen where you have everything in alist and you can scroll up and own through it or do you you mean what they call touch flo or sense where you move along the bottom of the screen through tabs? either way i would highly recomend spb mobile shell which will make your phone similar to android layout. It works great and is reqally easy to customize everything. or at least touch flo/sense with what they call cookies home tab which helps you customize your home screen. Let me know whcih one you have and which one you want and ill help you. I dont know how to program but i do know how to use the phone well, and customize it thanks to all the developers here who provide us with so much to do it with.

@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.

Do you hava a lot of sms or e-mail saved on the phone? That can cause it to bog down.

Yeah, but I originally owned the tilt 1 and had over 4,000 text message and encounter no problem sending out text messages.

Girli3e said:
@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.
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i wish someone could help us with the lag, lately ive just learnt to be patient, though that is a little ridiculous. There is a sms program from htc (thecompany that makes the phone) that is much nicer and did not have the lag. I did have some other issues but maybe it will work for you. Search in xda for updated htc sms app and see if you can find it. as far as anroid goes I am trying to get mine to work properly and have still not got it to connect to sprint. Its a work in progress and not everything works so i dont think you would want to switch to it permanently. Give it a shot though its very cool and gets better every few days. As of know I think the camera is still not working but most everything else is. I would recomend spb mobile shell. watch some videos on youtube although you will be able to customize it yourself completely. Youll need to play with it to figure out how to customize it but its pretty easy just drag and drop type of stuff with anything on the phone. It looks and works like android but youll still be suing windows mobile. Its works great for me and i wouldnt be able to keep this phone if not for it. I hope that helps.