Info Needed - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development

Hiya Guys, I've recently installed HSPL on my HD2 and i've tried a couple of different ROMs, so far i've realised i'm not a big fan of the graphical soft keys, much prefer the text ones!
I'm looking for a little but of advice. I am looking for a ROM which is close to stock but does not have HTC messaging as i am fed up of the SMS problems.
Which ROMS do not have the HTC messaging? I know people dont like reccomending ROMs and i am happy to try any/all, i just cant find them!
Thanks,
Martyn

dont know if theres a rom without manila sms. i know dutty made one for hd, but i dont know if he has one for hd2. Did you search for one? If you cant find one when you search, then prob there isnt one out there.

Take a look at Freyberry's ROMS. IIRC he has a version that may be what you are looking for.
WB

After the latest SMS hot fix. I am running problem free with my messaging (at least as far as i have noticed lol)

I tried all the patches but still had the issue, if anything it seemed worse for me!
the one I am running at the moment is Miris XtraLite which would be perfect, except i prefer to just have the text icons for the softkeys whereas this has the windows logo and rounded icons.
Can i just change these icons somehow?

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What ROM should I install?

I have no idea where to start, with there being so many different custom ROMS on this site.
Can anybody recommend a good, reliable, ROM to install?
I'm totally new to Windows Mobile so I have no idea which have a good reputation.
Not looking for any features in particular, although I'd like to keep HTC Sense.
If any ROMs have fixed the SMS lag, or more importantly, the stuck in outbox problem, then that would be great. Even the new SMS fix hasn't stopped them getting stuck for me, and now HTC messaging seems to crash.
If you are bored of the stock one and want to try a lighter custom ROM then my suggestion is:
1. Topix 1.1.6
2. Kumar's Leo 2.1
srw985 said:
I have no idea where to start, with there being so many different custom ROMS on this site.
Can anybody recommend a good, reliable, ROM to install?
I'm totally new to Windows Mobile so I have no idea which have a good reputation.
Not looking for any features in particular, although I'd like to keep HTC Sense.
If any ROMs have fixed the SMS lag, or more importantly, the stuck in outbox problem, then that would be great. Even the new SMS fix hasn't stopped them getting stuck for me, and now HTC messaging seems to crash.
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There's apparently a fix for the SMS problem coming this month, from HTC. You can always remove HTC messaging, as it's that that causes the problem - not the OS or the phone.
If I were you, I'd stick with what you've got, unless you're looking for something specific. Bear in mind that applying a new ROM may invalidate your warranty.
Otherwise, just read up in the ROM section and find one you like the look and sound of. The only way to know is to try
Is the latest Artemis rom worthwhile?
srw985 said:
Is the latest Artemis rom worthwhile?
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The Artemis HD2 ROM thread currently has 39 pages- you'd be much better advised reading that and posting a question there.

auto rotate, shortcuts, does flashing turn an HD into an HD2

Hallo boys and girls. Thanks to this forum I have learned how to flash my Touch HD ROM and have had fun with several different ones. But I still find a few things I can't find the simple answer to and I promise I have searched a lot before posting.
1) Rotation. Some ROMs seem to auto rotate, some partially autorotate, some need G-Sensor and some use MaxManila. I can't quite work out what is supposed to happen. Is there such a thing as a ROM where every screen rotates without having to do anything. XannyTech with MaxManila seemed to rotate everything but only after rotation is switched on (derr). With G Sensor, you seem to need to access each application, do the stylus thing and reset.
Have I got that right or am I missing something blindingly obvious?
2) Is it a Touch HD or HD2? Sometimes when I am looking for other apps, there are versions for HD and for HD2. After I have installed the new ROM, does my device "think" it is an HD or HD2?
3) From many posts, I gain the opinion that Sense (Manila) 2.1 is not as hard on resources as Sense 2.5. But shortcuts to programs are only available on 2.5 (I found someone working on this for 2.1 but not released yet). I think Agenda view is also only on 2.5.
4) On most of the new ROMs I flashed, the phone can hang quite badly sometimes. It seems to be mostly when accessing contacts. I have gone back to a ROM with Sense 2.1 now to see if it is a 2.1 vs 2.5 thing. Is there something else I should try, is it to do with HTC Messaging or just part of the fun of trying different ROMs?
5) And how should I work out whether to install an app to device or storage card - which is "best" and why?
Trying different ROMS and reading the posts here is good fun (mostly) so thanks to you all for that. But sometimes to flash and re-set up everything up so I am ready for work with everything, satnav, contacts all ready and working for Monday can take quite a long time so your help is always appreciated. Thanks.

TMO US Stock ROM is perfect

Hello, my name is R and I'm an addict, to flashing, that is.
I had the Rhodium until the 24th when the HD2 came out and I was second in line at the store and was the first one out of there with a brand new HD2. (I know, the other lady had issues... lol...)
Anyway, I installed Cookie's Home tab, System SEVEN for push email, Garmin Mobile XT, Quick Menu and Total Commander on the phone, and it has been running better than the Rhodium ever did, even when I installed the cooked ROMs in it, so much so that I'm afraid to flash a cooked ROM on my HD2 and spoil it...
The things that I miss from the cooked ROMs:
1- Excluding the music tab and the pictures tab from rotation (NRG's Rhodium ROMs with Manila 2.5 can do that, and if i install MaxManila I know that it does that too, but I only ever used MaxManila for the extra links on the home tab and Cookie's Home tab does that with less bloat)
2- NRG's theme with the raised windows buttons instead of the flat ones in the Stock ROM.
3- I just read one of the posts below and remembered how sweet threaded emails were on the cooked ROMs, but System SEVEN didn't play nice with any of the 6.5.5 ROMs, and even some of the regular 6.5 ROMs, so I always had to reflash because the ROMs would freeze after a few hours and I would get an "Application Error" message that didn't go away, even uninstalling SEVEN didn't work... Why do I need SEVEN? I have three hotmail accounts, one personal and two business, and POP3 just doesn't work well, at least not with hotmail (or live mail, however you want to call it) and I haven't found anything better than SEVEN for configuring multiple hotmail accounts for push on windows mobile. Kind of lame when you think about it, because hotmail belongs to M$ and WinMo only allows one windows live account, and blackberries allow several windows live accounts, all with push...
Things that never worked on the Cooked ROMs and work perfectly on the stock ROM:
1- Facebook Integration: On the cooked ROMs, facebook integration kind of worked, I could link my favorite contacts to their facebook profiles and get their facebook pictures on my contacts tab, however, whenever they called me I saw their Outlook picture instead of their facebook picture, and I had to manually add the Outlook picture every time or I would get the generic gray avatar picture instead. On the stock ROM, I always see the facebook picture everywhere
2- On all the cooked ROMs that I flashed to the Rhodium, regardless of the version of Manila, I had to go to task manager and terminate outlook all the time because if I went to the email tab and tapped on Inbox and I was on an account other than the one that was open in Outlook (say I opened my hotmail inbox, then went back to the home tab, then back to the email tab and selected the exchange account and tapped on Inbox) Outlook would hang and I would have to restart it all the time. On the Stock ROM it works flawlessly, Outlook never hangs.
3- For the life of me, I never could figure out how to close Total Commander on the 6.5.X ROMs
4- I use Garmin Mobile XT, and while it worked, whenever the main GUI was open, it left a gap on the top between the GUI and the status bar or however you want to call it.
The Stock ROM is so good and stable that I'm not even going to flash anything until the Stock ROM is available to reflash.
Anyone knows how to exclude the music and the pictures tab from rotation (BSB Tweaks Rotation doesn't play well with rotating manila on the stock ROM, however TX_Total_Landscape.cab from the Touch Xtreme ROMs works perfectly), or anyone knows how to modify the default theme and make the windows buttons raised as in the NRG's themes, I would appreciate it if they let me know. (Some will say search the forums, but I've been searching for 6 days now and haven't found anything)
My two cents.
Peace!
Three row Landscape keyboard
When I first got my Rhodium (OK, TMO US HTC Touch Pro2) I loved the landscape keyboard, it only had 3 rows of keys and was very unobtrusive and functional. Then I started flashing and I really really really (as my 5 year old would say) dislike the new landscape EZInput keyboard layout. I have searched and searched endlessly for the original three row keyboard, but I've had no luck, there is one, but it's only for VGA devices, and I did dump my Rhodium ROM, but I haven't found a way to make a cab out of the dumped modules for the original keyboard (or any other modules for that matter), there are a couple of tutorials here and there, and I have followed them, but maybe because I have windows 7 they don't work, or maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Case in point: does anyone know where to get the below keyboard and install it on the HD2?
View attachment 301757
When I first got my HD2, my fingers were all over the place and I couldn't click on anything accurately. I really missed my Rhodium but figured that I would adapt to the new capacitive screen and the HD2 didn't have the "Align Screen" available in its settings. I must say that I was still struggling with it until today that I found this and I was able to align my screen and now I can tap anywhere with great accuracy and my days of missing my Rhodium are gone...
Yet another one
And this is the last one...
I will update this thread with the CABs that I install and the ROMs that I flash, and even the CABs that I make to make my phone run smooth and fast...
I don't understand the reserved for future use... Can't you just update the initial post?
Thraka said:
I don't understand the reserved for future use... Can't you just update the initial post?
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I guess I could...
People who plan to include a lot of data in their thread and lots of responses usually reserve a space or two on the thread. This is because some forum restrict the size of a post you can make, even editted. So for instance, each post can only be 500 characters and no more. This allows them to include more information (characters) at the beginning of the thread.
Try this Rom, not sure you will ever come back to stock Rom, give it a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654218
Steve0007 said:
Try this Rom, not sure you will ever come back to stock Rom, give it a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654218
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This is the one I also might try after a month or week of the stock rom, i'm waiting for us to be able to reflash the stock rom...i don't even have the HD2 US yet but it's coming...and i have tons of cabs ready for it...so I would love the auto-install feature of that rom...but yeah, that facebook picture thing would be big for me as well...and on the stock rom some games lag a tad, so i will be using the 3d driver patch cab. and see if it helps.
I just flashed back to stock myself....I've yet to find a custom ROM that was as bug-free as stock
I just wish they'd release an official 6.5.x update. I'll miss the taskbar on the bottom of the screen, threaded emails, nicer stock apps (I prefer Titanium to Sense)....
stock rom....
does anyone know where to download the stock rom for warranty purposes?
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I just flashed back to stock myself....I've yet to find a custom ROM that was as bug-free as stock
I just wish they'd release an official 6.5.x update. I'll miss the taskbar on the bottom of the screen, threaded emails, nicer stock apps (I prefer Titanium to Sense)....
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where did you get the stock rom?...i cant find it
tylermobile said:
where did you get the stock rom?...i cant find it
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There was a link floating around here right after release. Not sure what happened to it.
You can find the stock rom here, under the Leo 2.10 folder, have flashed it myself after testing a few custom roms:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html
I find the stock rom really nice too. However I do wish I had a stock 6.5.X to go with though. I miss a lot of the little things in 6.5.X like threaded email, Start button on the bottom, Beautiful menus, and the general ugly is gone.
Yes, one wonders why HTC released the T-MO HD2 with the old version when they will soon be releasing the so called HD Mini with 6.5.3.
The Stock ROM is nice and suitable for your average Joe but for cell phone enthusiasts it is a memory hog and full of bloatware. That said, it would need to be stripped to be worthy of its own thread.
kable said:
The Stock ROM is nice and suitable for your average Joe but for cell phone enthusiasts it is a memory hog and full of bloatware. That said, it would need to be stripped to be worthy of its own thread.
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I have to agree with the bloatware part of your statement. However, every cooked ROM that I used had it's own bloatware. Now, I know this is preference, but for instance, I don't like Opera, I prefer plain old IE, however, Opera is installed in all Cooked ROMs and there is no way to uninstall it. There are several other things that I would take out of every ROM, including the Stock of course, but I just havent have time to learn how to cook myself yet. I will soon, though... matter of fact, I'm dumping my ROM right now and will see how I can manage to "clean it up" a little bit and see what happens...
I'm a cell phone enthusiast myself, or at least I consider my selft to be one. My first Phone was an MDA, then I had a Wing, then the Touch Pro2, and now the HD2, and I flashed and customized each and every one of them...
efjay said:
You can find the stock rom here, under the Leo 2.10 folder, have flashed it myself after testing a few custom roms:
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Well the last updated ROM should be ending in 2.10.531.1
Thats the one I'm looking for.
Thanks for you link.

Who wants a Titanium (no Sense) ROM?

Alright, so I have no experience making a ROM, but I figure I might as well learn. I personally am interested in a ROM for the HD2 that just uses Titanium - none of that messy Sense nonsense - and to the best of my knowledge the current ROM chefs aren't too interested in that.
However, considering I can always just turn off Sense, it seems like a lot of work for just me. Is anyone else out there interested in such a thing? I presume you'd want it based on 6.5.x, not the standard 6.5?
If there's enough interest, I'll get started tonight.
Also, if you are interested, please post what other add-ons you'd want pre-installed. I'd like to keep it fairly basic, and allow users to add their own customizations later, but I figure maybe at least 4-column start menu and slider at the bottom.
Would be a good idea to have one. I'd love to have compatible themes as well for it. It's really tough searching for them as nobody is really into that anymore. Titanium would fly on our phones as HTC Sense for WinMo is pretty slow compared to it's Android counterpart. I ran HTC Sense on my Nexus One and it was crazy fast and the Nexus One has less RAM and ROM space than the HD2
I like to use the phone without Sense, but recently with the Elegancia ROM from steve0007 I have been using it with Sense enabled. When I disable Sense, there is a weird issue on the HD2, and I think I experienced it with other ROMs too, where the default menus don't disappear from the screen once I have tapped what I need. They just stay, blocking the screen, and the only solution is a soft reset. It'd be nice to have the ability to enable and disable Sense at will without an issue like this. A ROM without Sense at all might be a solution but I prefer having both options.
Miri has a couple options out, Titanium only or without both. But you have to go over to that 'other site' to get them.
mwelch16 said:
Miri has a couple options out, Titanium only or without both. But you have to go over to that 'other site' to get them.
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Just checked it out. Looks like its based on 6.5. Nothing wrong with that per se, but without Sense you lose the HTC apps like contacts, calendar, etc and 6.5.x is a nice upgrade over 6.5 in that area.
pinhead said:
I like to use the phone without Sense, but recently with the Elegancia ROM from steve0007 I have been using it with Sense enabled. When I disable Sense, there is a weird issue on the HD2, and I think I experienced it with other ROMs too, where the default menus don't disappear from the screen once I have tapped what I need. They just stay, blocking the screen, and the only solution is a soft reset. It'd be nice to have the ability to enable and disable Sense at will without an issue like this. A ROM without Sense at all might be a solution but I prefer having both options.
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I'm sorry, can you explain this a little more? I've used stock, Energy, and Kumar's ROMs all with Titanium and I don't think I've seen that one.
I'm using a really basic rom right now with HTC's stuff disabled. I prefer the WinMo 6.5 style today screen, SMS app, and speed. I've tried a bunch of roms and sense just bogs the phone down to the point that they keyboard becomes slow and unresponsive and that drives me bonkers!
FYI - I've been playing around with kitchens, and have what appears to be a stable version of a fast, basic, Titanium-only ROM running on my phone.
I'll play around with it some more to sort out bugs and clean up my kitchen a bit more. Look for a thread with the ROM download in the coming days!
I'm relatively new, and will do a search here shortly, but Titanium? My biggest gripe with this phone is the messaging app. It always lags heavily every time I get a new text, as well as other weird time stamp issues. I would be interested in a ROM w/o the HTC messaging app, and if Titanium is it, them I'm game!
Like I said, I will be searching RIGHT after this about what all this is, and if there's a solution to what I'm looking for now.
tbot said:
I'm relatively new, and will do a search here shortly, but Titanium? My biggest gripe with this phone is the messaging app. It always lags heavily every time I get a new text, as well as other weird time stamp issues. I would be interested in a ROM w/o the HTC messaging app, and if Titanium is it, them I'm game!
Like I said, I will be searching RIGHT after this about what all this is, and if there's a solution to what I'm looking for now.
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Titanium is the default Windows Mobile 6.5 interface. If you want to see what it looks like - go to the settings tab, hit menu->all settings->today, go to the Items tab, and switch to Windows Default.
And you're in luck - I am using the standard Windows Mobile messaging app as well.
I got a ROM building as I type this, I'll let you guys know how it goes
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I'm sorry, can you explain this a little more? I've used stock, Energy, and Kumar's ROMs all with Titanium and I don't think I've seen that one.
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Here is a link to the ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654218
It is for the T-Mobile HD2. It is probably the best looking and most stable I have used on any Windows Mobile phone...and I used MANY on my Touch Pro2.
DeekoVB5 said:
Titanium is the default Windows Mobile 6.5 interface. If you want to see what it looks like - go to the settings tab, hit menu->all settings->today, go to the Items tab, and switch to Windows Default.
And you're in luck - I am using the standard Windows Mobile messaging app as well.
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How did you get the standard winmo messaging app? Even after I disabled the sense UI it still used the sense messaging...
tbot said:
How did you get the standard winmo messaging app? Even after I disabled the sense UI it still used the sense messaging...
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Sense UI and HTC messaging client are different but interdependent.
The HTCmessaging client may still function without sense UI.
If you want windows messaging, try here or need a cooked ROM like my Lite version ROM.
How is this coming along?
Anyone have any links to some Titanium ROMs?
i know nrg always puts out a titanium rom
NRG does have a Titanium Rom, however I have noticed a lot of programs are pre-packaged into the Rom that I would never use.
An Elegancia Titanium Rom would be the best of both worlds in my opinion. No fluff and allows for your own additions. Or a NRG Rom without the extras. Just my .02 in what I would like to see.
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How is this coming along?
Anyone have any links to some Titanium ROMs?
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I would recommend either Energy or Kumar's Titanium ROM, depending on what you're looking for.
I had something that was ok, not great, when the more established ROM chefs started putting out Titanium ROMs, so I figured I'd just leave it up to them.
Do you have a link for Kumars Titanium Rom? I see the Lite version but is that the same as Titanium or is there a separate thread which I am not seeing?
I'm going to download the Energy Rom but have a feeling it will still have too much added for my liking.

Base WM6.5.5 Rom

Does any know of a rom without HTCs Sense or Dialer? Im trying to find one that is the basic titanium and nothing else, I want it so I get the standard WM6.5 slide to answer/end on calls, appointments and alarms.
I cant find one anywhere? they all have sense
loomx said:
Does any know of a rom without HTCs Sense or Dialer? Im trying to find one that is the basic titanium and nothing else, I want it so I get the standard WM6.5 slide to answer/end on calls, appointments and alarms.
I cant find one anywhere? they all have sense
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There's plenty that don't have Sense. Without even looking for threads I can tell you that Miri does a Lite ROM that doesn't come with Sense. I've been using his ROMs for a long time and he's always done none manila version.
You need to read the 1st post in the ROM threads a bit more than you have and you'll find what you want.
Yeh got it now, doesnt appear to be on this site though.

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