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Hey all - one of the things I'd like to see the Android Browser pick up is Flash mobile or Silverlight... Thought I'd make this thread to keep up with news. Last I heard, Silverlight was going to make it possible, but Google was trying to keep Adobe out of it.
Would be awesome to have some Flash Apps and a browser that could run it or something similar!
Anyone else feel the same?
Two of my favorite sites, zillow.com and redfin.com dont work on G1 because of flash.
That would be nice,I was wondering myself if when u visit a website that says u need adobe falsh player,get it here has anyone tried to download it from the website link or you can't?
jkiller122 said:
That would be nice,I was wondering myself if when u visit a website that says u need adobe falsh player,get it here has anyone tried to download it from the website link or you can't?
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It just sends you to the standard download place for linux. Doesn't have any in the android format. We'll just have to wait. Luckily, I don't think there's anything stopping adobe from making a flash plugin for the android browser since any1 can make any plugin for anything on android.
[email protected] said:
It just sends you to the standard download place for linux. Doesn't have any in the android format. We'll just have to wait. Luckily, I don't think there's anything stopping adobe from making a flash plugin for the android browser since any1 can make any plugin for anything on android.
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It took Adobe 8 years to make the first flash player? I dont think we still have a real flash player for the WM6. Skyfire just blasted through and pretty much suppots everything under the moon on WM6. I wish Skyfire would port on Andriod on day.
Its really stupid that Youtube.com and Google Video websites dont open up on Android, they are both owned by Google!
brooklynite said:
Its really stupid that Youtube.com and Google Video websites dont open up on Android, they are both owned by Google!
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Both YouTube and Google video are supported out of the box on the G1.
OK, so they open outside of the browser, but it's no more effort than it would be otherwise.
jonbass said:
Both YouTube and Google video are supported out of the box on the G1.
OK, so they open outside of the browser, but it's no more effort than it would be otherwise.
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Ok so YouTube I understand opens in a special software and not inside the familiar browser. How do you open Google Videos?
And there is a big difference between supporting an industry accepted format (flash) and "supporting" flash based YouTube in a special app. There are hundreds of sites we cant access without Flash. What about Hulu and all other good stuff on the web?
Silverlight support on the G1 would be a wonderful thing because THIS and ONLY THIS will encourage Adobe to EVER support flash on the G1.
Don't believe me?
There has never been simultaneous releases of Adobe Flash Player for *nix and windoze but then Microsoft announces Silverlight support for Linux. The result is Adobe Flash Player 10 for both Windows and Linux released at the same time.
Someone just needs to make up some false story about Silverlight working on Android and get enough people to go along with it until Adobe catches wind of it. Then we'll see flash support, but until Adobe has a reason to support Flash on Android we are never going to see it.
joshtheitguy said:
Someone just needs to make up some false story about Silverlight working on Android and get enough people to go along with it until Adobe catches wind of it. Then we'll see flash support, but until Adobe has a reason to support Flash on Android we are never going to see it.
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Hahahah yeah let's trick adobe into making flash player for android
i want flash capatibility as well. i noticed we dont have it when i tried to veiw my Photobucket account. the load just keeps looping itself.
i was temped to download te Flash mobile, but was scared it'd brick the phone so i opted not to
jonbass said:
Both YouTube and Google video are supported out of the box on the G1.
OK, so they open outside of the browser, but it's no more effort than it would be otherwise.
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Google video works- if it happens to be a Youtube link. There are some 3gp sites like Tinytube that work, but the video buffer underrun is so bad the stream of frames bleeds into each other.
Flash on Android is probably having the same issues as Coreplayer trying to create codecs for Android. The "Java" layer and GSsteamers have to be gone through and this is causing heavy cpu overhead and causing the need to create more complex codecs. The video apps on the g1 market now are simply interfaces for the built in function of the Android OS- no codecs.
I agree that Flash would rock on the G1, but some sites would still be problematic if flash as not an imbedded function of the browser. Videos links would work, but files imbedded into the pages or scripts may not work well- if at all.
We might have to wait until Google goes with Flash and upgrades the OS.
Flash Player on the way...
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-new...+Remains+Left+Out+as+Android+Scores+Flash.htm
Read about it. Seems like apple played Adobe and will now make it sooner for the android? Fully functional flash player 10. Nice!
Engadget link:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/finally-proper-banner-ads-for-android-flash-demoed-on-a-g1/
Flash on Android
Apparently, it's already been done - this tablet PC running Android has Flash -
http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=1410&tag=nl.e539
Sounds like overselling before release to me. I recall there was a handset announced recently that stated support for Word and Excel, I think we all know that doesn't exist yet.
i remember back in december watching a video of flash fully working on a G1 and it's still not been released.
suppose it was buggy as hell or too good/not good enough for the phone, **** knows.
benmyers2941 said:
Sounds like overselling before release to me. I recall there was a handset announced recently that stated support for Word and Excel, I think we all know that doesn't exist yet.
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not sure if thats sarcasm or not but assuming it isn't, windows mobile has supported word, excel, powerpoint and onenote for a while now...
[email protected] said:
not sure if thats sarcasm or not but assuming it isn't, windows mobile has supported word, excel, powerpoint and onenote for a while now...
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Sorry I should have clarified. They were claiming it on and Android handset.
I found the link too...
http://www.generalmobile.com/new/Default.aspx?PageName=Products&ProductId=200
Flash 10 anyone?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-10164745-78.html
Adobe announces Flash for Android and some others (iPhone looks to be out)
http://www.googleandblog.com/adobe-announces-flash-for-android-at-mobile-world-congress-in-barcelona/3785/
Simple question - Is there any way to get Flash Player or Flash Lite working on the X10 with any Android browser?
use the search feature.. there's various posts already on this.
I thought there might be but i cant find them.
Because searching for "flash" comes up with flashing the device, camera flash and all kinds of other things.
So any help would be appreciated.
EDIT, dont worry i found the asnwer. No Flash on X10. Only issue i have with this phone.
fairy nuff!!.. short answer is no.. and I'm no expert, but I understand that it's not possible on And 1.6.. but maybe on 2.1 (possibly!).. or.. you can use a browser which renders flash at the server and then passes it to you in a format the handset can make sense of.. the only browser i'm aware of that can do this at the moment is skyfire.. and that's a beta test app so isn't quite there yet.. but suspect it won't be long.
skyfire browser has a kind of work around. it grabs flash videos and converts them on the fly.
i don't know if it's any good yet as i only downloaded it yesterday, but it might be what you're after
I've already tried skyfire, it didn't work lol. Well it might for videos, didn't try for them, because i'm more interested in Flash sites and games (which is what i make).
I had read that one big advantage of Android over iPhone/iPad was support for Flash-enabled wed sites. But I went to Hulu.com, which presents all it's video in a Flash 10 player, and my phone or the web site said "Sorry, we do not support this platform." Any ideas?
i could be completely wrong on this but im going to assume by platform, they mean the operation system, in this case it's android
You need to write the Hulu team themselves, they are controlling what has access and what doesn't. They even banned PS3s this year...there was no reason it couldn't work on them, but Hulu didn't want to allow it.
Hulu doesn't work. Their choice.
Make sure you have flash 10 installed from the apps and themes forum its on the first few pages. With that most other sites will work fine.
I'm on WM6.5 right now with Android on SD card. I mostly use Android because of the Flash support in the web browser. How does the WP7 browser stack up against the Android browser?
Brgds... /Tubgirl
no flash, but scrolling and pinch to zoom is better.
Depends on the sites you are using
I use to bet a lot with austrian bookie Bet-at-home. The stock Andtroid browser is unusable with them as it overlaps the odds and you can't really place a bet at all. IE dispays it just fine.
I also use electronic invoice services from efaktura.bg. IE is the only mobile browser I know so far that allows me to login to my account there. Every other browser out there including Opera 10 can not display the login button Same goes for some other sites I need to use for business and fun.
For me personnaly IE Mobile (WP7 edition) is currently the most compatible browser for the sites I use, closely followed by Opera 10 (probs with efaktura.bg). Other browsers may have fancy stuff like flash, but I don't watch YouTube, so basically I don't need it that much.
That said I absolutely know that most users will be perfectly happy with the Android browser and will enjoy the extras they get there. So at the end of the day it really depends on the sites you visit and if they work correctly.
I neither like the IE mobile (no customization possible) nor the stock android browser(compatibility, few customization and not that fast)
I prefer Dolphin HD mini as the normal Dolphin HD is just too heavy and became too slow. (Android)
WP7:
- no flash (you can it use for other stuff than pr0n, youtube and ads)
- no real settings
- no fullscreen
- no copy & paste (i know not the browser's fault)
Android:
- slightly slower than IE
- pinch to zoom also a tiny bit worse than on wp7
IE on WP7 is based on IE7 with bits of IE8 in there. Pocketnow reported last week that M$ are working on bring IE9 to both desktop and WP7 soon. The Mango update, which will follow the NoDo update, looks set to bring IE9 to WP7. This will have copy/paste (NoDo update) as well as rumoured flash support.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/ie9-coming-to-windows-phones-mango-update
Long Story short : It sucks
The text looks really blurry in ie, in Android its really sharp.
And the flashplugin is really useful e.g. you can watch southpark episodes on southpark.com or watch videos on the full youtube site who are not available in mobile version yet
WP7 browser is faster (I am dual booting CM7 and WP7)
I have just had to uninstall windows 8 and dropped back to vista flash 11 in 64 bit keeps giving syntax errors and flash is not working?
Any help because if can get flash working will go back to 8.
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flash isn't working in immersive
but it does in desktop mode
Thank you, so I removed it for nothing, I was un aware it did not work in immersive. Shall re insta ll probably tomorrow now, hopefully someone works out how to get it working in immersive soon. Until. Then I thank you.
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Microsoft Mentioned that IE10-immersive is completely HTML5 no plugin support at all.. So like it was said.. Desktop Version is the same as all the others with full support
So how comes opera 12 is html 5 yet supports flash (then again only 32bit app) Shame immersive does not support flash yet. I'm sure rtm version or a beta will have a Microsoft version of flash built in instead of 3rd party due to lack of add on support
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^ no. Not at all.
Actually, that is not so bad. You will not get flash ads and other bloat that just slows down loading and browsing, but if you want to see flash video, there is "view in desktop mode" button.
yeah. IE immersive wont support flash. so there wont be anyway to get it, specially for arm tablets. no ads and no "you need flash to see this video" yeah not cool for Facebook games, but usually video sites are getting html5 and flash.
but if you are like "how i will see YouTube videos if links open in immersive"
if you win + i or go to settings with charm in IE immersive you can go to "default view links for" and you can tell IE to open links in desktop.
^ that option still wont have flash on ARM. The ARM version will not support it.
I think desktop IE on ARM will still support plugins. It's up to adobe to decide if they will develop flash for Windows ARM.
vetvito said:
^ that option still wont have flash on ARM. The ARM version will not support it.
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and im not saying it would support it.
are you running Windows dev preview on arm? no, like everyone else. so i dont care about ARM.
but some people dont know you can change the way IE opens links. you know people who will complain how new UI sucks and they dont even explore enough to know how to open links in IE desktop.
the only thing Adobe has talked about is flash based apps in win8 via AIR.
Emi_Cyberschreiber said:
the only thing Adobe has talked about is flash based apps in win8 via AIR.
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Well, we won't know that. Like we all know, the developer preview is not completely perfect. It's not even near to good.
The Metro browser doesn't support flash, and there are no plans to support it or any other plugins, but there was a lot of negative feedback at BUILD from the developers about the inconsistent browsing experience (in 1 on 1 sessions with microsoft)..
Perhaps flash could be implemented (maybe with cooperation from Adobe) at some point in the future; good or bad, flash is an currently important part of the web.