Flash/Silverlight News for Android - G1 General

Hey all - one of the things I'd like to see the Android Browser pick up is Flash mobile or Silverlight... Thought I'd make this thread to keep up with news. Last I heard, Silverlight was going to make it possible, but Google was trying to keep Adobe out of it.
Would be awesome to have some Flash Apps and a browser that could run it or something similar!
Anyone else feel the same?

Two of my favorite sites, zillow.com and redfin.com dont work on G1 because of flash.

That would be nice,I was wondering myself if when u visit a website that says u need adobe falsh player,get it here has anyone tried to download it from the website link or you can't?

jkiller122 said:
That would be nice,I was wondering myself if when u visit a website that says u need adobe falsh player,get it here has anyone tried to download it from the website link or you can't?
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It just sends you to the standard download place for linux. Doesn't have any in the android format. We'll just have to wait. Luckily, I don't think there's anything stopping adobe from making a flash plugin for the android browser since any1 can make any plugin for anything on android.

[email protected] said:
It just sends you to the standard download place for linux. Doesn't have any in the android format. We'll just have to wait. Luckily, I don't think there's anything stopping adobe from making a flash plugin for the android browser since any1 can make any plugin for anything on android.
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It took Adobe 8 years to make the first flash player? I dont think we still have a real flash player for the WM6. Skyfire just blasted through and pretty much suppots everything under the moon on WM6. I wish Skyfire would port on Andriod on day.
Its really stupid that Youtube.com and Google Video websites dont open up on Android, they are both owned by Google!

brooklynite said:
Its really stupid that Youtube.com and Google Video websites dont open up on Android, they are both owned by Google!
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Both YouTube and Google video are supported out of the box on the G1.
OK, so they open outside of the browser, but it's no more effort than it would be otherwise.

jonbass said:
Both YouTube and Google video are supported out of the box on the G1.
OK, so they open outside of the browser, but it's no more effort than it would be otherwise.
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Ok so YouTube I understand opens in a special software and not inside the familiar browser. How do you open Google Videos?
And there is a big difference between supporting an industry accepted format (flash) and "supporting" flash based YouTube in a special app. There are hundreds of sites we cant access without Flash. What about Hulu and all other good stuff on the web?

Silverlight support on the G1 would be a wonderful thing because THIS and ONLY THIS will encourage Adobe to EVER support flash on the G1.
Don't believe me?
There has never been simultaneous releases of Adobe Flash Player for *nix and windoze but then Microsoft announces Silverlight support for Linux. The result is Adobe Flash Player 10 for both Windows and Linux released at the same time.
Someone just needs to make up some false story about Silverlight working on Android and get enough people to go along with it until Adobe catches wind of it. Then we'll see flash support, but until Adobe has a reason to support Flash on Android we are never going to see it.

joshtheitguy said:
Someone just needs to make up some false story about Silverlight working on Android and get enough people to go along with it until Adobe catches wind of it. Then we'll see flash support, but until Adobe has a reason to support Flash on Android we are never going to see it.
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Hahahah yeah let's trick adobe into making flash player for android

i want flash capatibility as well. i noticed we dont have it when i tried to veiw my Photobucket account. the load just keeps looping itself.
i was temped to download te Flash mobile, but was scared it'd brick the phone so i opted not to

jonbass said:
Both YouTube and Google video are supported out of the box on the G1.
OK, so they open outside of the browser, but it's no more effort than it would be otherwise.
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Google video works- if it happens to be a Youtube link. There are some 3gp sites like Tinytube that work, but the video buffer underrun is so bad the stream of frames bleeds into each other.
Flash on Android is probably having the same issues as Coreplayer trying to create codecs for Android. The "Java" layer and GSsteamers have to be gone through and this is causing heavy cpu overhead and causing the need to create more complex codecs. The video apps on the g1 market now are simply interfaces for the built in function of the Android OS- no codecs.
I agree that Flash would rock on the G1, but some sites would still be problematic if flash as not an imbedded function of the browser. Videos links would work, but files imbedded into the pages or scripts may not work well- if at all.
We might have to wait until Google goes with Flash and upgrades the OS.

Flash Player on the way...
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-new...+Remains+Left+Out+as+Android+Scores+Flash.htm
Read about it. Seems like apple played Adobe and will now make it sooner for the android? Fully functional flash player 10. Nice!

Engadget link:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/finally-proper-banner-ads-for-android-flash-demoed-on-a-g1/

Flash on Android
Apparently, it's already been done - this tablet PC running Android has Flash -
http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=1410&tag=nl.e539

Sounds like overselling before release to me. I recall there was a handset announced recently that stated support for Word and Excel, I think we all know that doesn't exist yet.

i remember back in december watching a video of flash fully working on a G1 and it's still not been released.
suppose it was buggy as hell or too good/not good enough for the phone, **** knows.

benmyers2941 said:
Sounds like overselling before release to me. I recall there was a handset announced recently that stated support for Word and Excel, I think we all know that doesn't exist yet.
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not sure if thats sarcasm or not but assuming it isn't, windows mobile has supported word, excel, powerpoint and onenote for a while now...

[email protected] said:
not sure if thats sarcasm or not but assuming it isn't, windows mobile has supported word, excel, powerpoint and onenote for a while now...
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Sorry I should have clarified. They were claiming it on and Android handset.
I found the link too...
http://www.generalmobile.com/new/Default.aspx?PageName=Products&ProductId=200

Flash 10 anyone?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-10164745-78.html

Adobe announces Flash for Android and some others (iPhone looks to be out)
http://www.googleandblog.com/adobe-announces-flash-for-android-at-mobile-world-congress-in-barcelona/3785/

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Flash on the X10?

Simple question - Is there any way to get Flash Player or Flash Lite working on the X10 with any Android browser?
use the search feature.. there's various posts already on this.
I thought there might be but i cant find them.
Because searching for "flash" comes up with flashing the device, camera flash and all kinds of other things.
So any help would be appreciated.
EDIT, dont worry i found the asnwer. No Flash on X10. Only issue i have with this phone.
fairy nuff!!.. short answer is no.. and I'm no expert, but I understand that it's not possible on And 1.6.. but maybe on 2.1 (possibly!).. or.. you can use a browser which renders flash at the server and then passes it to you in a format the handset can make sense of.. the only browser i'm aware of that can do this at the moment is skyfire.. and that's a beta test app so isn't quite there yet.. but suspect it won't be long.
skyfire browser has a kind of work around. it grabs flash videos and converts them on the fly.
i don't know if it's any good yet as i only downloaded it yesterday, but it might be what you're after
I've already tried skyfire, it didn't work lol. Well it might for videos, didn't try for them, because i'm more interested in Flash sites and games (which is what i make).

Cellspin app

does anyone have any history with this app? I downloaded it because I was looking for a way to quickly blog pictures and videos i take while out. I downloaded the cell spin app b/c it does that with a ton of services. Everything is fine except I can never get it to show the videos I have taken. It never finds them, and I even switched the format a few times. Anyone who has used this program got any tips?
I've never used that app, I use Qik for that type of thing, it's free and looks like the same exact idea.
Are you sure the app is pointed to the folders the videos get saved to? Some apps require you to manually tell them where to find stuff like that, especially if it's on the SD card.
i do use qik for streaming video, but this is different. This is more of a blogging tool. I should be able to update videos and pic to my blog, but it cant seem to find any of my videos. I ded just see that this phone is not officially supported on their site though
braveally said:
i do use qik for streaming video, but this is different. This is more of a blogging tool. I should be able to update videos and pic to my blog, but it cant seem to find any of my videos. I ded just see that this phone is not officially supported on their site though
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Yeah, looking over that list of supported phones, it looks like they gave up on winmo development quite a while ago...it looks like some of those are WM 6.1 devices, I don't see any that run 6.5, so that may be the issue.
I haven't used those features, I just thought qik could upload existing videos from your phone to most any blogging site (I know it can do it to their own site...you can pick stored videos instead of a live stream).
true. I was looking more for an all in one blogging platform. I'm using the livejournal app now,its coll but still very buggy.

Flash Support on EVO??

I had read that one big advantage of Android over iPhone/iPad was support for Flash-enabled wed sites. But I went to Hulu.com, which presents all it's video in a Flash 10 player, and my phone or the web site said "Sorry, we do not support this platform." Any ideas?
i could be completely wrong on this but im going to assume by platform, they mean the operation system, in this case it's android
You need to write the Hulu team themselves, they are controlling what has access and what doesn't. They even banned PS3s this year...there was no reason it couldn't work on them, but Hulu didn't want to allow it.
Hulu doesn't work. Their choice.
Make sure you have flash 10 installed from the apps and themes forum its on the first few pages. With that most other sites will work fine.

Hulu while using dock?

Has anyone read anything about the possibility of watching hulu.com content while using the dock with the desktop version of Firefox? It makes me so angry that hulu blocks smartphone browsers. My hopes are that the "Desktop version of Firefox" will work with hulu.
That would make this phone nearly perfect for my needs.
Netflix would be awesome as well, but I have not read anything about installing plugins, such as silverlight, to the Firefox browser.
I hope the webtop feature is as cool and useful in practice as it looked from the CES demonstrations. It would really put a hamper on the experience, however, if sites like hulu.com still managed to block it.
The Firefox on Atrix is the Ubuntu Linux / ARM version.
Netflix is out. Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight and there is no way Microsoft is going to release a Linux/ARM version of that.
Hulu might be possible, since it uses Flash instead of Silverlight. But Hulu has blocked a lot of things that aren't Windows/Mac computers and they might choose to block this too.
Rastor said:
The Firefox on Atrix is the Ubuntu Linux / ARM version.
Netflix is out. Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight and there is no way Microsoft is going to release a Linux/ARM version of that.
Hulu might be possible, since it uses Flash instead of Silverlight. But Hulu has blocked a lot of things that aren't Windows/Mac computers and they might choose to block this too.
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I agree. Netflix is unlikely because of Silverlight. It doesn't work on full linux distros, so not likely to work here. (Although Netflix are developing a dedicated Android app.)
Hulu *should* work. It uses the Flash plugin, and the browser ID *should* indicate Mozilla running on linux, but only time will tell.
I guess the worst case scenario is that Hulu blocks Firefox on the Atrix like it has all the mobile browsers.
The good news is that if this is indeed the full linux distro of firefox, we technically should be able to change the User Agent, and get around the whole problem.
Here's hoping!
Ive seen a video somewhere of hulu running on the laptop dock...
I'm sure Hulu would work right now, the question is, will they choose to block it once they notice...
Hulu works!

Flash support?

I have just had to uninstall windows 8 and dropped back to vista flash 11 in 64 bit keeps giving syntax errors and flash is not working?
Any help because if can get flash working will go back to 8.
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flash isn't working in immersive
but it does in desktop mode
Thank you, so I removed it for nothing, I was un aware it did not work in immersive. Shall re insta ll probably tomorrow now, hopefully someone works out how to get it working in immersive soon. Until. Then I thank you.
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Microsoft Mentioned that IE10-immersive is completely HTML5 no plugin support at all.. So like it was said.. Desktop Version is the same as all the others with full support
So how comes opera 12 is html 5 yet supports flash (then again only 32bit app) Shame immersive does not support flash yet. I'm sure rtm version or a beta will have a Microsoft version of flash built in instead of 3rd party due to lack of add on support
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^ no. Not at all.
Actually, that is not so bad. You will not get flash ads and other bloat that just slows down loading and browsing, but if you want to see flash video, there is "view in desktop mode" button.
yeah. IE immersive wont support flash. so there wont be anyway to get it, specially for arm tablets. no ads and no "you need flash to see this video" yeah not cool for Facebook games, but usually video sites are getting html5 and flash.
but if you are like "how i will see YouTube videos if links open in immersive"
if you win + i or go to settings with charm in IE immersive you can go to "default view links for" and you can tell IE to open links in desktop.
^ that option still wont have flash on ARM. The ARM version will not support it.
I think desktop IE on ARM will still support plugins. It's up to adobe to decide if they will develop flash for Windows ARM.
vetvito said:
^ that option still wont have flash on ARM. The ARM version will not support it.
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and im not saying it would support it.
are you running Windows dev preview on arm? no, like everyone else. so i dont care about ARM.
but some people dont know you can change the way IE opens links. you know people who will complain how new UI sucks and they dont even explore enough to know how to open links in IE desktop.
the only thing Adobe has talked about is flash based apps in win8 via AIR.
Emi_Cyberschreiber said:
the only thing Adobe has talked about is flash based apps in win8 via AIR.
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Well, we won't know that. Like we all know, the developer preview is not completely perfect. It's not even near to good.
The Metro browser doesn't support flash, and there are no plans to support it or any other plugins, but there was a lot of negative feedback at BUILD from the developers about the inconsistent browsing experience (in 1 on 1 sessions with microsoft)..
Perhaps flash could be implemented (maybe with cooperation from Adobe) at some point in the future; good or bad, flash is an currently important part of the web.

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