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I was at Flashcamp yesterday at Adobe. Here's what I learned:
Flash Player will run on any handset with FroYo. Both should be available in May. FP is hardware-optimized when possible, hence the dependancy on FroYo.
Bowler Hat's GridShock was being demoed on a Droid as a native APK (just like the iPhone Packager). I forgot to check the Android version, but it felt slightly laggy.
I think I heard AIR (the Android Packager) should ship around September.
Awesome Android devices will ship this year, including tablets.
What version number will FroYo get? Are you serious, May? I seriously doubt that FroYo will be released in May...
I heard Fro-Yo is Android 2.3. They publicly stated that Flash Player 10.1 will run on any phone with Fro-Yo, and that there will be a public build available in May. They did give the caveat concerning the availability of Fro-Yo on devices, so I don't know what the Android timetable is.
I'm mainly posting this info here so the ROM chefs can start thinking about an AOSP build of Fro-Yo, so we'll be able to run Flash content on a mobile device in May.
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What version number will FroYo get? Are you serious, May? I seriously doubt that FroYo will be released in May...
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i can't remember when AOSP 2.1 was released but its at least 6 months now. i also doubt it will be May, but would be pleasantly surprised if it was.
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i can't remember when AOSP 2.1 was released but its at least 6 months now. i also doubt it will be May, but would be pleasantly surprised if it was.
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As I wrote somewhere, there are already some simple checks for Froyo in Google Maps This doesn't mean we will have it soon, but we can at least hope for that
Froyo will not be released today according to the Android Developer Blog and Google Press Release. Likely in the next few weeks.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/android-froyo-with-some-sprinkles.html
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/05/android-22-and-developers-goodies.html
"As I said at the beginning, Android 2.2 will be here soon, and some devices will get the update in the coming weeks."
Nexus One update in June, no doubt. What a great update, I can't wait!
If only they'd do some battery work and redo the interface; it would be perfect.
Man if they can give away 5,000 HTC Evo's to people there, they should have given Froyo out to every one else that was at least watching the keynotes on youtube... T.T
Thats weird, I have been reading that it will be available to Nexus One users today as an ota update. I thought the waiting thing was for all the other phones. If I cant get my hands on some Froyo, its gonna be a long few weeks.
Not sure how reputable this site is, but they arent the only ones saying it. and if its on the internet, it must be true.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/nexus-one-and-droid-to-get-android-22-froyo-ota-update.html
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Thats weird, I have been reading that it will be available to Nexus One users today as an ota update. I thought the waiting thing was for all the other phones. If I cant get my hands on some Froyo, its gonna be a long few weeks.
Not sure how reputable this site is, but they arent the only ones saying it. and if its on the internet, it must be true.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/nexus-one-and-droid-to-get-android-22-froyo-ota-update.html
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Don't you think Google would have mentioned that it would be out today if it was? None of these sites actually say where their source is from. For all we know, one could have made it up to get page views and the others copied it.
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Don't you think Google would have mentioned that it would be out today if it was? None of these sites actually say where their source is from.
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Thats why I said "Im not sure how reputable it is." So like anything else, take it with a grain of salt.
The sdk is out already. We should see roms soon (like tonight)
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The sdk is out already. We should see roms soon (like tonight)
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i don't believe that an sdk = new kernel release, or ROM, or whatever. it's a kit for producing software that will work optimally with froyo once it is released.
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i don't believe that an sdk = new kernel release, or ROM, or whatever. it's a kit for producing software that will work optimally with froyo once it is released.
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Maybe I miss understood this post and link.
http://www.johnzayas.com/blog/2010/5/21/android-22-sdk-update-and-rom-now-out.html
from Twitter...
Chris Soyars
Just successfully booted Froyo on the n1
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from Twitter...
Chris Soyars
Just successfully booted Froyo on the n1
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I take it this would require being rooted?
ap3604 said:
I take it this would require being rooted?
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I have a rooted N1. Can't wait for froyo!
Not hugely impressed by this to be honest. After being screwed around by HTC with the Hero (which, interestingly, I note is still on 1.5 and will be for the forseeable future) I bought the Nexus One for the precise reason of being first in the queue when updates are released.
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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Maybe I miss understood this post and link.
http://www.johnzayas.com/blog/2010/5/21/android-22-sdk-update-and-rom-now-out.html
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I think the issue is that blog says the ROM is out today when in fact it is the SDK and NDK. A ROM can be cobbled together from the SDK as is being thrown around twitter, but it is not stable.
Hopefully some developers (CM) start to play with these tools and get us Froyo-lite.
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Not hugely impressed by this to be honest. After being screwed around by HTC with the Hero (which, interestingly, I note is still on 1.5 and will be for the forseeable future) I bought the Nexus One for the precise reason of being first in the queue when updates are released.
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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N1 is still going to be first - The Evo runs Sense and will have to go through HTC before it will get a ROM release. I'd put good money that the OTA for the N1 will be available first.
David Horn said:
Not hugely impressed by this to be honest. After being screwed around by HTC with the Hero (which, interestingly, I note is still on 1.5 and will be for the forseeable future) I bought the Nexus One for the precise reason of being first in the queue when updates are released.
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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if the evo would be getting froyo first, wouldn't you think they would've demo'd with it instead of the nexus?
either way, it runs sense and not vanilla android like the nexus so it goes through htc before release.
David Horn said:
Not hugely impressed by this to be honest. After being screwed around by HTC with the Hero (which, interestingly, I note is still on 1.5 and will be for the forseeable future) I bought the Nexus One for the precise reason of being first in the queue when updates are released.
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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Hate to burst that bubble, but the Hero got 2.1 today.
David Horn said:
Not hugely impressed by this to be honest. After being screwed around by HTC with the Hero (which, interestingly, I note is still on 1.5 and will be for the forseeable future) I bought the Nexus One for the precise reason of being first in the queue when updates are released.
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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The Evo 4G is running 2.1 still! Nexus One will still be getting this first!
David Horn said:
Not hugely impressed by this to be honest. After being screwed around by HTC with the Hero (which, interestingly, I note is still on 1.5 and will be for the forseeable future) I bought the Nexus One for the precise reason of being first in the queue when updates are released.
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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I wouldn't use your experience with a third party company delaying the update to Android for any bearing because a never implied, expressed, or stated expectation of Froyo being released today over the air didn't come true.
I'm just... not seeing the logic.
David Horn said:
Unfortunately, if you're a Nexus One user I wouldn't get your hopes up about a release any time soon. If it was going to come, I imagine it would have been ready for the keynote. The Evo 4G is now Google's favourite toy and I should think that's the only way to get FroYo now.
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Christ, a little dramatic don't you think? Froyo was announced mere hours ago! And Google employees have said that devices will be getting it over the next few weeks and they demoed it ON THE NEXUS ONE! Why do you believe that we shouldn't get our hopes up and that the Evo will be the only way to get it now? Are you seriously that depressed, or is this just another troll? I can't tell.
The SDK is here today, and I'm sure Google is working hard at polishing up the firmware update for the Nexus One and will push it out in due time. No need to panic yet.
we all know its going to happen but how soon till we see the leaks
Leaks? It's already officially out. Nexus One's are receiving the update as we speak. As for an EVO specific leak from HTC/Sprint, who knows..I'm sure the devs will have something out soon if there aren't any major hardware changes / requirements.
SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
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I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
Nexus One owners feeling a little Nexus S envy can breathe a little easier -- we're hearing that Android 2,3 Gingerbread is being pushed out to the N1 as we speak. We'd imagine that all the slick new features that don't require new hardware (like NFC support) will be there, and we're definitely interested in playing with this built-in WiFi calling stack.
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the latest ota pushed to the nexus was just a minor update i don't think it was 2.3
Sirchuk said:
I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
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That might have been an old link where the nexus one got a security update and people jumped the gun on calling gingerbread
Looks like Engadget was wrong and pulled the story. Nobody can confirm that 2.3 is out it seems, though some have tried to get their N1's to update.
Way to go Engadget, wrong information with no clarification. At least post a "Oops, we were wrong" update or something.
The N1 forums are saying it will be out on/around the 16th.
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Think they heard me:
Update: Looks like our flood of tips came from people who were seeing their N1s get a different, less-interesting update -- we'll let you know when the actual 2.3 update roll out. Ah, the heady optimism of hope.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
Award Tour said:
Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
drmacinyasha said:
I'm going to say this once to head off the countless sheep who will ask...
Do not ask when Gingerbread will make it to the EVO.
Seriously, how the hell would any of us know? We're not psychics, we're not secret HTC/Sprint/Google/CIA/Mafia/Former KGB/NSA employees, we can't predict the future, so why on God's green Earth would you ask us?
Shut up, sit down, twiddle your thumbs, and wait for a press release from Sprint, HTC, Google, etc. announcing that Gingerbread will or will not be ported to the EVO. If you really want Gingerbread, go help Team Douche port it to be CyanogenMod 7. That's the most guaranteed way to get it to our phones.
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10 characters.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Not sure if there's any confusion with what I think I read from your post but.. I'm talking about the AOSP source not the HTC source. That'll probably take a month or so after the Nexus One OTA to be released and then another month or so before CM releases a RC of CM7/2.3.
apollooff320 said:
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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windows phone? are you on crack?
I'm guessing you won't see a Sprint/HTC Gingerbread ROM until sometime next year. Rumor has the source code being released when the Nexus S ships which is allegedly on Dec 16. Expect AOSP based Gingerbread ROMs to start rolling out around then and an Official Sprint ROM after sometime well after that, after its been thoroughly QA'd.
According to this website, there have been multiple rumors from independent sources at MWC stating that Gingerbread is supposed to drop OTA by the end of this week or early next.
Any truth to this or do you guys call shenanigans?
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/02...e-to-hit-nexus-ones-within-the-next-few-days/
I'll believe when I see it.
I'm afraid this rumour is even less reliable than @googlenexus' tweet in the early December days...
Same.
10sames.
I really want to believe this one as there are multiple devices set to launch with Gingerbread, and it's been long enough. Yeah, I am running CM7 but I want it fully optimized with the OTA drivers.
Here it goes again...
I will believe it when I see it.
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Here it goes again...
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Eventually, one of these "here we go again" threads has to be the real one.
so wait, you said it might come this week, or next week.
so it might come in the coming weeks....and yeah this is what google has been saying all along.
let's see what happens next month.
They said "next few weeks" and that was 3 months ago, so following that logic, "next few days" will be 3 weeks
keep waiting...
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Gingerbread ota will drop the day I purchase a babana shaped galaxy s.
Been running gingy on my N1 for some time now...In CM7 form.
BREAKING NEWS #mwc11: "#Nexus One #Gingerbread OTA": "In the next few DAYS".That STILL is:From this very instant up to the rest of eternity.
I understand all of the scepticism, but, with the slew of devices announced at MWC that are set to launch with Gingerbread, doesn't it make sense that the Nexus One should receive the update soon?
With the passion branch alive and well in AOSP, it's highly likely that the Nexus One is still a viable handset for Google.
I did wonder if we'd see an OTA during MWC. It seems to be a good opportunity for Google to promote Android with all these new devices that are lined up to launch with Gingerbread.
Can only hope at this point i guess
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Gingerbread ota will drop the day I purchase a babana shaped galaxy s.
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Good. I would propose, you just go and buy it right now, so we can have our Gingerbreadz
Well i've played around with some roms here, some mostly work and some are still a work in progress. I'd prefer to get a polished Gingerbread whenever they decide to push it out, not really rushing this one.
I'd wait for 2.4
After using some of the AOSP built roms out there, and seeing how they are a bit wonky, I am perfectly happy waiting for a polished release. If that means 2.4 with all the bugs and fixes, then so be it.
At the end of the day, even though people who own the n1 are desperate to continue to feel like they are up to date, the fact is that 2.2.2 is functional as hell, and there isn't much that is going to be augmented by the release of 2.4. Honestly, it will look different, im sure it will have a few improvements but the functionality will still be the same. It is not the type of jump we saw going from 2.1 to 2.2
The easter bunny will be delivering it to your doorstep....
FFS, rumors or not, I'll believe it when someone ACTUALLY gets an OTA for 2.3.
Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
designgears said:
Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
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good find. Lets hope they realize that 2.3 is a waste and to skip to 2.4 gingerbread with dual core capabilities
If they packaged it with a bootloader unlock they could make a lot of folks long time motorola users. I love everything else about my phone. Can live with it either way but I can dream
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What daveop said. As of now, I would totally be willing to go through switch carriers after this. This better be a worthwhile update (or updates, which ever is faster).
I wonder if it'll still be a Motoblur based update...
It doesn't make sense for motorola to remove blur. They actually advertised the "feature". If they remove it, lots of people will complain (not us, but we are on a different demographic)
So, don't get your hopes up, expect blur. And don't expect 2.4 either, we already know they are working on 2.3. 2.4 doesn't even have a release date yet people.
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I wonder if it'll still be a Motoblur based update...
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They would never just drop MotoBlur, they have probably spent a lot of time and money on it.
I just want an unlocked bootloader. The Dev's are better at maximizing the phone's potential than the manufacturers.
designgears said:
Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
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Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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Def, If we where in September I wouldn't mind but we could be waiting long. lol
jpasint said:
Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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"Later this year" = Don't hold your breath.
It just a holy crap.
Motorola never update
Holy crap. it says they will enable 1080p streaming in an update!
Maybe they will enable HDMI mirroring along with it
Hopefully by "Later this year", they don't mean December or so.
Realistically speaking if you want 2.4 on a phone, you will have to get one of the newest phones coming out - Galaxy S 2 etc. This phone wont see that until next summer at earliest.
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Hopefully by "Later this year", they don't mean December or so.
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Knowing moto, they're gonna wait as long as possible, so December 31st at 11:59pm.
However, if you live in Canada (like me), they'll give us a later date, then lie about it.
So for us it would be early q1 of 2012, but then at early q1 of 2012, the update still isn't given (this is what's happening with the milestone right now, it was suppose to get 2.2 at early q1 of 2011, and they still didn't give us 2.2, and early q1 is over already).
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good find. Lets hope they realize that 2.3 is a waste and to skip to 2.4 gingerbread with dual core capabilities
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Haha, where do people get this stuff? /sigh
I do hope it comes sooner for those who really want it.
Personally speaking, and this really is personal, I'm still getting used to using Froyo as the Atrix is my first smartphone. That isn't to say I don't want the update to come soon, of course. But at least there's plenty to play around with and learn up until that point.
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It just a holy crap.
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well that's funny, considering that when you look at what manufacturers release updates, Motorola is #2, only behind HTC.
I'm also betting AT&T will get better about updating now that iphone exclusivity is gone. I think the captivate froyo update is soon if not already around, and the Aria is getting froyo soon too.
From what i understand motorola was one of the faster manufacturers to get out updates.....anything will be better than samsung....my captivate is just now getting official froyo and its not even 2.2.1
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Samsung's that bad, huh.
Yeah, from what I have read, Motorola's pretty good with their flagship devices. Comparatively of course.