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Back in mid August Slashgear.com reported that HTC told them there were two ROM updates for the Hero in the coming weeks. The first one should be released "within 10 days", while a major update would be coming in mid September.
As we all know many more than 10 days has passed since that report and we didn't get an official update. My initial though was that they were combining the two updates into one, since it is not a good idea to release two updates in a short period of time especially when installing the update require a wipe.
But honestly, beside the significant speed improvement, there is really nothing "major" in this ROM update, feature-wise I mean. Seeing the release of the 1.6 SDK today, I can't stop but think that the "major update" they mentioned is the Android 1.6 update for the Hero.
If you watch the video about Android 1.6 on Android Developer Blog, they mentioned that a main feature added to the 1.6 update is CDMA support. Since Sprint's Hero will be a CDMA phone, it needs Android 1.6. As Sprint is shipping their version of the Hero in October 11, I guess the "major" update for the Hero may get released around that time too. What do you think?
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Back in mid August Slashgear.com reported that HTC told them there were two ROM updates for the Hero in the coming weeks. The first one should be released "within 10 days", while a major update would be coming in mid September.
As we all know many more than 10 days has passed since that report and we didn't get an official update. My initial though was that they were combining the two updates into one, since it is not a good idea to release two updates in a short period of time especially when installing the update require a wipe.
But honestly, beside the significant speed improvement, there is really nothing "major" in this ROM update, feature-wise I mean. Seeing the release of the 1.6 SDK today, I can't stop but think that the "major update" they mentioned is the Android 1.6 update for the Hero.
If you watch the video about Android 1.6 on Android Developer Blog, they mentioned that a main feature added to the 1.6 update is CDMA support. Since Sprint's Hero will be a CDMA phone, it needs Android 1.6. As Sprint is shipping their version of the Hero in October 11, I guess the "major" update for the Hero may get released around that time too. What do you think?
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For being the "minor" update it was quite a big update...
I mean, headphone jack works flawlessly, LEDs are working too, a major speed optimization in the UI/OS... it was a well needed update. Now let's look forward to the Donut/1.6 update.
BRING IT ON Google/HTC.
i hope another update will be comeing soon because i´m missing the announced virtual java implementation
One quote for you all "Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?" - Homer Simpson
That's the major rom release, Donut SDK just got released today.
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If you watch the video about Android 1.6 on Android Developer Blog, they mentioned that a main feature added to the 1.6 update is CDMA support. Since Sprint's Hero will be a CDMA phone, it needs Android 1.6. As Sprint is shipping their version of the Hero in October 11, I guess the "major" update for the Hero may get released around that time too. What do you think?
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I concur with your reasoning here - Donut (1.6) is required for CDMA, and the Sprint Hero is CDMA. This will have a different radio obviously, but assuming the rest of the hardware is relatively similar (and the specs would seem to show this) there shouldn't be too much work for HTC getting this ROM working on the GSM Hero, so hopefully it will follow relatively soon after the Sprint Hero is released.
Regards,
Dave
The recent update is mostly UI (sense) optimisations. In addition there's a number of serious bugs in the applications that HTC needs to address. Some of these bugs were already solved in the applications delivered with the android 1.5 (cupcake) development-kit, so I really hope HTC fixes them too. This includes problems such as calls and SMS's that are missed, and HTC-mail being unable to display certain messages. There are also too frequent application crashes, if you compare the quality of this android-distribution to that of most regular linux distributions. Applications on a hand-held linux-device should be just as stable as those which are used on a linux desktop.
Sebastian768 said:
One quote for you all "Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?" - Homer Simpson
That's the major rom release, Donut SDK just got released today.
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Do you have a download link?
around to web browsing on the new ROM? Is the scrolling of pages fast on the websites as well like the Iphone 3GS? There was a lot of lag in scrolling web pages as well.
How are the web pages looking now?
Do we have an equaliser on the new ROM as well?
Has it resolved the google calender sync problem?
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The Donut SDK is on the official Android website, android.com
Drizzy (and Paul from MoDaCo I think) have said that they have a 2.8something version of the software but cannot leak it yet due to their source. Have no idea what it has to offer but hopefully it's another great boost!
I think this was the "minor" update if you can call it that. and that the bigge one will include 1.6 Donut
Hallo! i have heard allot of rumours that legend won't be getting froyo
is it true?
like you said they are rumours.
just wait. think there will soon be more info from htc when the first 2.2 phones are released.
the rumours are indeed very iffy
I honestly just posted an entire rant last night about this, allow me to quote myself...
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Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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Soo yeah that's my 2 cents, but it seems reasonable if you ask me.
Aaaand lastly, there's a guy currently working on porting froyo over and you can follow it at this thread in the forum, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709078
Just to throw some fuel in the fire, check out this link
The Flash Player 10.1 can be availed as a final production release for smartphones and tablets as soon as users can upgrade to Android 2.2 “Froyo”. Handsets which are anticipated to support “Froyo” and Flash Player 10.1 include Google Nexus One, HTC Evo, HTC Desire, HTC Incredible, Dell Streak, Samsung Galaxy S, DROID by Motorola, Motorola Milestone and more.
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Adobe didn't state HTC Legend on their supported devices list...could this mean no 2.2 for Legend? or Is HTC dumbing down 2.2 for Legend as they did with 2.1?
If 2.2 is dumbed down for Legend, it better have WiFi hotspot as a stock 2.2 rom would have, or I am going to be one pissed off long legged puerto rican!
androidcodex.com/gingerbread-is-coming.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gingerbread-is-coming
well, it was always destined to come out before the end of the year, whether the article is correct about the October date is anyones guess.
People have already learned their lesson with how long it took Froyo to come out...
I wouldn't expect Gingerbread any earlier than December with the time Google needs to keep updating it before eventually releasing it.
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People have already learned their lesson with how long it took Froyo to come out...
I wouldn't expect Gingerbread any earlier than December with the time Google needs to keep updating it before eventually releasing it.
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Don't forget, Google did say that after Froyo they would begin a 6month till next update period, where updates wouldn't come out for 6 months. I figure June (when froyo was released) is 6 months from December so technically it still fits googles model.
It sucks how only specific phones are going to get the update
oO So SoL1D Oo said:
It sucks how only specific phones are going to get the update
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Who said that, obviously phones like the Hero isn't going to get it but who said only specific phones will?
Blueman101 said:
Who said that, obviously phones like the Hero isn't going to get it but who said only specific phones will?
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i think he meant older phones wont get it but that's understandable because 3.0 is said to bring GUI improvements which may need 1Ghz or above..
Gingerbread sounds delicious
The article repeats rumors knocked down by Dan Morrill
Re release date:
When will other Google products support WebM and VP8?
WebM support in Android is expected in the Gingerbread release (currently planned for Q4, 2010). We expect many other Google products to adopt WebM and VP8 as they prioritize it with their other product requirements. Keep an eye on the WebM blog for announcements.
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http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/
actually they meant after gingerbread and its going to be yearly not 6 months
Well we might start seeing Gingerbread in October, but probably officially rolls out in December. Sounds about right.
Funny how the article lists phones which meet the requirements but neglect to include Google's Flagship Nexus One.
Currently there are only a handful of devices with these types of specifications, among them the Samsung Galaxy S and the HTC Desire.
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player911 said:
Well we might start seeing Gingerbread in October, but probably officially rolls out in December. Sounds about right.
Funny how the article lists phones which meet the requirements but neglect to include Google's Flagship Nexus One.
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Well those requirements are fake anyways, Google denied it directly, so I wouldn't care what phones they put in a list.
Hopefully October or sooner The Nexus should have no problem running it
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Well those requirements are fake anyways, Google denied it directly, so I wouldn't care what phones they put in a list.
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*conspiracy*
Didn't they deny the Nexus One's existence also?
*/conspiracy*
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*conspiracy*
Didn't they deny the Nexus One's existence also?
*/conspiracy*
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yeah but the difference is that the rumors originally came out of the blue and by someeone who had no sources or anything. Basically there are reliable as the world ending in 2012
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yeah but the difference is that the rumors originally came out of the blue and by someeone who had no sources or anything. Basically there are reliable as the world ending in 2012
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I offer the mayan's a bit more credit than that.
maybe they will be announcing something cool about gingerbread on august 12th?
http://gizmodo.com/5609571/whats-google-got-planned-for-august-12th
We won't see Gingerbread before December. I seriously doubt we'll see it this year. Likely January-February time frame.
we all know its going to happen but how soon till we see the leaks
Leaks? It's already officially out. Nexus One's are receiving the update as we speak. As for an EVO specific leak from HTC/Sprint, who knows..I'm sure the devs will have something out soon if there aren't any major hardware changes / requirements.
SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
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I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
Nexus One owners feeling a little Nexus S envy can breathe a little easier -- we're hearing that Android 2,3 Gingerbread is being pushed out to the N1 as we speak. We'd imagine that all the slick new features that don't require new hardware (like NFC support) will be there, and we're definitely interested in playing with this built-in WiFi calling stack.
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the latest ota pushed to the nexus was just a minor update i don't think it was 2.3
Sirchuk said:
I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
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That might have been an old link where the nexus one got a security update and people jumped the gun on calling gingerbread
Looks like Engadget was wrong and pulled the story. Nobody can confirm that 2.3 is out it seems, though some have tried to get their N1's to update.
Way to go Engadget, wrong information with no clarification. At least post a "Oops, we were wrong" update or something.
The N1 forums are saying it will be out on/around the 16th.
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Think they heard me:
Update: Looks like our flood of tips came from people who were seeing their N1s get a different, less-interesting update -- we'll let you know when the actual 2.3 update roll out. Ah, the heady optimism of hope.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
Award Tour said:
Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
drmacinyasha said:
I'm going to say this once to head off the countless sheep who will ask...
Do not ask when Gingerbread will make it to the EVO.
Seriously, how the hell would any of us know? We're not psychics, we're not secret HTC/Sprint/Google/CIA/Mafia/Former KGB/NSA employees, we can't predict the future, so why on God's green Earth would you ask us?
Shut up, sit down, twiddle your thumbs, and wait for a press release from Sprint, HTC, Google, etc. announcing that Gingerbread will or will not be ported to the EVO. If you really want Gingerbread, go help Team Douche port it to be CyanogenMod 7. That's the most guaranteed way to get it to our phones.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Not sure if there's any confusion with what I think I read from your post but.. I'm talking about the AOSP source not the HTC source. That'll probably take a month or so after the Nexus One OTA to be released and then another month or so before CM releases a RC of CM7/2.3.
apollooff320 said:
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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windows phone? are you on crack?
I'm guessing you won't see a Sprint/HTC Gingerbread ROM until sometime next year. Rumor has the source code being released when the Nexus S ships which is allegedly on Dec 16. Expect AOSP based Gingerbread ROMs to start rolling out around then and an Official Sprint ROM after sometime well after that, after its been thoroughly QA'd.
I just Read an article stating that 2.3 will be scraped, but that doesn't coincide with 2.3.3.
The Article is on pocket-lint.com or Search Google for the Phrase "Android 2.4 coming April, leaving 2.3 dead on arrival - not Ice Cream"
Sorry can't post a link.
I was looking for any sort of Response about this on the Forum or the Main Site on XDA.
Since I didn't find anything, I decided to post it.
It is interesting though, what does it mean for the Nexus S?
Peace.
IronSingh
Well if you look at it like that all OS versions are "scrapped" in the end.
My guess is the 2.3.3 will be a bugfix (reboots anyone? ^^) and NFC upgrade (as its mainly disabled in 2.3.2). And 2.4 is the next update, ovbiously making 2.3 redundant.
It's almost like seeing a report saying windows7 retail is cancelled because sp1 is coming out
IMO gingerbread/NS were rushed for the holiday release and proof is in this 2.4 update.
2.3 has too many issues poor 3d performance compared to 2.1-2.2 galaxy s FPS is inconsistent, compass is messed up ...movement is too jerky, dropped calls, crappy browser performance not 3d accelerated, the CPU seems to down clocks even when it shouldn't this might explain the inconsistent/stutter FPS when running 3d apps becasue setting CPU to performance with set SETCPU seems to smooth things out.
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IMO gingerbread/NS were rushed for the holiday release and proof is in this 2.4 update.
2.3 has too many issues poor 3d performance compared to 2.1-2.2 galaxy s FPS is inconsistent, compass is messed up ...movement is too jerky, dropped calls
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that's exactly the case.... like common being released on Mid Dec 2010, just a few days shy for the holiday... it's way to obvious
and all the small bugs we find here and there are prove of that
usually going from say for example 2.1 to 2.2 are like major changes
but now we got 2.3 and 2.4 that seems more like a routine maintenance release
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Well if you look at it like that all OS versions are "scrapped" in the end.
My guess is the 2.3.3 will be a bugfix (reboots anyone? ^^) and NFC upgrade (as its mainly disabled in 2.3.2). And 2.4 is the next update, ovbiously making 2.3 redundant.
It's almost like seeing a report saying windows7 retail is cancelled because sp1 is coming out
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What I mean is Why 2.3.3 when 2.4 is the actual Update.
AFAIK 2.3.3 is for Upgrade to NFC capabilities like stated in the first link over here.
Reboot issue doesn't seem to be addressed. I haven't faced the reboot issue yet, so I am not worried about that.
I think 2.4 is rushed 2.2 was somewhere in June or July, 2.3 was in Late November. 2.4 will likely be hereby March. The Gaps are getting shorter, the only way I see it is they are leaving less time to do the testing or Programmers have gotten faster leaving more time for Testing. More Likely the the earlier assumption as we can see with the problem on the Nexus.
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IronSingh
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that's exactly the case.... like common being released on Mid Dec 2010, just a few days shy for the holiday... it's way to obvious
and all the small bugs we find here and there are prove of that
usually going from say for example 2.1 to 2.2 are like major changes
but now we got 2.3 and 2.4 that seems more like a routine maintenance release
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Very true
it does seem isolated to 2.3 becasue i loaded 2.3 on my vibrant and had same poor results
I hope some of these issues are not just becasue google wanted to improve battery life on NS .... sacrifice performance
And hopefully not overlooked with 2.4
Seems like Android 2.4 can land as soon as early April 2011 but not as Android 2.4 Ice cream, instead it will be a continuation update of Android 2.3 Gingerbread. This news was sparked by tech blog pocket-lint claiming that his sources at ViewSonic have revealed that the ViewSonic will launch their ViewPad 4 Smartphone in early April with Android 2.4. This Android update will not bring any name change and it will be still known as Android 2.4 Gingerbread. So what is it going to do? Well it is said that the Android 2.4 will essentially bring the compatibility with dual-core applications that are customized for Android 3.0 Honeycomb to the currently available single-core devices.
Xanaki said:
Seems like Android 2.4 can land as soon as early April 2011 but not as Android 2.4 Ice cream, instead it will be a continuation update of Android 2.3 Gingerbread. This news was sparked by tech blog pocket-lint claiming that his sources at ViewSonic have revealed that the ViewSonic will launch their ViewPad 4 Smartphone in early April with Android 2.4. This Android update will not bring any name change and it will be still known as Android 2.4 Gingerbread. So what is it going to do? Well it is said that the Android 2.4 will essentially bring the compatibility with dual-core applications that are customized for Android 3.0 Honeycomb to the currently available single-core devices.
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that's so confusing, yet so clear
Google have been sort of "advertizing" for a while that 3.0 will bring dual core support for Tablets only
but they never mentioned nothing about supporting phones with dual core
2.4 seems to be a logical place for them to test dual core support for phones, specially with the horrible test results shown on the LG phone
Wouldn't it make more Sense to Make another Branch or have some different Name Desgnation for Android for Tablet.
I don't see how the Smart Phones will skip 3.0 altogether, (I understand Smartphones will get 3.1). But the Code for Tablet and Smartphone should be similar how can it be that 3.0 will not be suitable for Smartphones.
I mean the Hardware is basically the same, they are basically stretched out phones.
The Tegra 2 in LG will be redundant in many of the early tablets.
I just don't see how they will battle the battery issue from Dual Core Processor on a phone for a while. I see dual core doing better in Tablets for the moment.
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IronSingh
lol just freaking lovely
i love to see 2.4 update soon.. Btw, i don't feel any problems with my current nexus S. The only problem is poor wifi connection and long charging time, i never had issue with dropped calls, reboot, etc..
: cough :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863837
Edit: For those who don't want to read through an entire thread, in short, yeah, it's likely Gingerbread was rushed.
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I think 2.4 is rushed 2.2 was somewhere in June or July, 2.3 was in Late November. 2.4 will likely be hereby March. The Gaps are getting shorter, the only way I see it is they are leaving less time to do the testing or Programmers have gotten faster leaving more time for Testing.
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You're forgetting about the 2.0 and 2.1 releases. 2.0 was released in late Nov on the Droid. No other phone ever got it and it was quickly replaced in early January with 2.1. In other words, it looks pretty much exactly like the 2.3-2.4 situation.
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You're forgetting about the 2.0 and 2.1 releases. 2.0 was released in late Nov on the Droid. No other phone ever got it and it was quickly replaced in early January with 2.1. In other words, it looks pretty much exactly like the 2.3-2.4 situation.
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exactly the case here
I agree that it is the 2.0 - 2.1 situation again. Google rushed both out to get the phones out. I've been wondering if the delay for Nexus One is that they are actually going to push 2.4 to it and skip 2.3. 2.4 is still Gingerbread, so they aren't lying that Nexus One will get Gingerbread ... they just never specified the version.
So it looks like 2.4 is real and HTC phones are being released with it next month!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-confirms-incredible-s-ship-froyo-will-get-update-24-soon-after
SupaDupaFly24 said:
So it looks like 2.4 is real and HTC phones are being released with it next month!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-confirms-incredible-s-ship-froyo-will-get-update-24-soon-after
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HTC has confirmed via Twitter that its new Incredible S will run Android 2.2 out of the box, but will receive an update to version 2.4 shortly after launch. The Desire S and Wildfire S, however, will run 2.4 when they're released.
This discrepancy is most likely down to release timing -- the Incredible S launches next month, whereas the Desire S and Wildfire S are slated for release during the second quarter of the year.
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Nothing is being released with it next month you should read the articles you post
Oh ok I read wrong!!! Sorry