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Gingerbread? Already?

androidcodex.com/gingerbread-is-coming.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gingerbread-is-coming

well, it was always destined to come out before the end of the year, whether the article is correct about the October date is anyones guess.

People have already learned their lesson with how long it took Froyo to come out...
I wouldn't expect Gingerbread any earlier than December with the time Google needs to keep updating it before eventually releasing it.

ap3604 said:
People have already learned their lesson with how long it took Froyo to come out...
I wouldn't expect Gingerbread any earlier than December with the time Google needs to keep updating it before eventually releasing it.
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Don't forget, Google did say that after Froyo they would begin a 6month till next update period, where updates wouldn't come out for 6 months. I figure June (when froyo was released) is 6 months from December so technically it still fits googles model.

It sucks how only specific phones are going to get the update

oO So SoL1D Oo said:
It sucks how only specific phones are going to get the update
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Who said that, obviously phones like the Hero isn't going to get it but who said only specific phones will?

Blueman101 said:
Who said that, obviously phones like the Hero isn't going to get it but who said only specific phones will?
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i think he meant older phones wont get it but that's understandable because 3.0 is said to bring GUI improvements which may need 1Ghz or above..
Gingerbread sounds delicious

The article repeats rumors knocked down by Dan Morrill
Re release date:
When will other Google products support WebM and VP8?
WebM support in Android is expected in the Gingerbread release (currently planned for Q4, 2010). We expect many other Google products to adopt WebM and VP8 as they prioritize it with their other product requirements. Keep an eye on the WebM blog for announcements.
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http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/

actually they meant after gingerbread and its going to be yearly not 6 months

Well we might start seeing Gingerbread in October, but probably officially rolls out in December. Sounds about right.
Funny how the article lists phones which meet the requirements but neglect to include Google's Flagship Nexus One.
Currently there are only a handful of devices with these types of specifications, among them the Samsung Galaxy S and the HTC Desire.
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player911 said:
Well we might start seeing Gingerbread in October, but probably officially rolls out in December. Sounds about right.
Funny how the article lists phones which meet the requirements but neglect to include Google's Flagship Nexus One.
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Well those requirements are fake anyways, Google denied it directly, so I wouldn't care what phones they put in a list.

Hopefully October or sooner The Nexus should have no problem running it

Clarkster said:
Well those requirements are fake anyways, Google denied it directly, so I wouldn't care what phones they put in a list.
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*conspiracy*
Didn't they deny the Nexus One's existence also?
*/conspiracy*

samagon said:
*conspiracy*
Didn't they deny the Nexus One's existence also?
*/conspiracy*
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yeah but the difference is that the rumors originally came out of the blue and by someeone who had no sources or anything. Basically there are reliable as the world ending in 2012

Blueman101 said:
yeah but the difference is that the rumors originally came out of the blue and by someeone who had no sources or anything. Basically there are reliable as the world ending in 2012
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I offer the mayan's a bit more credit than that.

maybe they will be announcing something cool about gingerbread on august 12th?
http://gizmodo.com/5609571/whats-google-got-planned-for-august-12th

We won't see Gingerbread before December. I seriously doubt we'll see it this year. Likely January-February time frame.

Just thought this would take a little weight off

http://mobile.computerworld.com/dev...mputerworld.com/16310/android_22_upgrade_list
It says froyo for all galaxy s phones in usa.
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You realize this was written in June?
You realize we all already know Froyo is coming sometime September?
In fact I think I remember reading something on these forums about the first week of september. Come on.

Well is it for sure coming early september and I'm just trying to help.
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zaduma said:
You realize this was written in June?
You realize we all already know Froyo is coming sometime September?
In fact I think I remember reading something on these forums about the first week of september. Come on.
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don't hate.
yeah man, we all know this. let's move on.

I'm just disappointed that people won't look around before posting stuff like this. It is very sad.

It doesn't disappoint me. For some reason I am not bothered by repetative posts. Sometimes searching doesn't work well, or just isn't worth the time, etc.
People work in different ways. Besides, it sounds so elitist to get on peoples cases about what they post, just ignore the posts that aren't of interest to you.
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I'll believe it when I see it. Samsung has a HORRIBLE track record when it comes to updates.
HTC and Motorola have already upgraded all of their high end android devices (the Droid Incredible just got the update today). Samsung already has 2.2 running on their 7" tablet, so it is pretty fair to criticize them for being slower than their American and Chinese counterparts.
I think there's a fair chance that T-mobile will release the G2 (Sept. 29, 2010) before the Vibrant gets 2.2 update.

Samsung is most likely waiting for all of the Galaxy S phones to be released before pushing froyo. With the Epic coming this weekend and the Fascinate probably coming 9/9, froyo isn't far away. Mid September, about a week after the Fascinate release is my guess.

Tarzanman said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Samsung has a HORRIBLE track record when it comes to updates.
HTC and Motorola have already upgraded all of their high end android devices (the Droid Incredible just got the update today). Samsung already has 2.2 running on their 7" tablet, so it is pretty fair to criticize them for being slower than their American and Chinese counterparts.
I think there's a fair chance that T-mobile will release the G2 (Sept. 29, 2010) before the Vibrant gets 2.2 update.
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They've also been out longer... I'm also pretty sure 2.2 is already done for the U.S. Just working out extra kinks in it so naturally 2.2 on the tab that'll be released later on would have 2.2. It had to derive from somewhere. Just sit tight everyone it'll be here soon. If Samsung delivers on time then we would have the shortest wait for a 2.2 update out of all the Androids. I'm definitely okay with that.

I'm more interested in a fix ASAP for the calendar bugs (events are deleted when they're edited, etc.) which I've mentioned on another thread. Hope that comes along with the Froyo update. (Or, heck, just give us the standard Android calendar app -- the Samsung one looks nice, but I can't touch events on it due to these bugs.)

i hope we get it in september, but not holding my breath. samsung and tmobile (usa) have not 100% committed to giving us 2.2 in september... so no, its not confirmed

zaduma said:
I'm just disappointed that people won't look around before posting stuff like this. It is very sad.
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I think we just need to let these types of posts get buried, if you see a repeated post just don't reply, by replying to it you keep it alive...just like I'm doing now...
...Just let it die on it's own...that will save you a lot of disgruntled typing.

DLarva said:
It doesn't disappoint me. For some reason I am not bothered by repetative posts. Sometimes searching doesn't work well, or just isn't worth the time, etc.
People work in different ways. Besides, it sounds so elitist to get on peoples cases about what they post, just ignore the posts that aren't of interest to you.
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+1
And that's the truth... lighten up.

Tarzanman said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Samsung has a HORRIBLE track record when it comes to updates.
HTC and Motorola have already upgraded all of their high end android devices (the Droid Incredible just got the update today). Samsung already has 2.2 running on their 7" tablet, so it is pretty fair to criticize them for being slower than their American and Chinese counterparts.
I think there's a fair chance that T-mobile will release the G2 (Sept. 29, 2010) before the Vibrant gets 2.2 update.
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I second this this thought.

Android 2.4 coming April; Google Kills 2.3 Gingerbread Update

Check out this article from Android Headlines,
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/02...pril-google-kills-2-3-gingerbread-update.html

Pretty big news no?

Only if your aren't rooted and are waiting on an official gb update. Your wait just got a little longer
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Looks like the only change is to make dual core apps compatible with single core phones

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Pretty big news no?
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Pretty big unconfirmed rumor at this point but it wouldn't be surprising after what happened with 2.0 and 2.1.

I find that a little concerning, unless the only actual difference relates to single/dual core compatibility. The reason I rolled back from Gingerbread to Froyo was because some of my apps weren't Gingerbread ready. I hope the difference isn't significant enough to cause a gap like this.

That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.

xHausx said:
That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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My feeling exactly... i mean why would u do that???

Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.

housry23 said:
Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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If google tells htc to not update to 2.3, and 2.4 isn't due out till april, then that pretty much guarantees that the Evo will reach it's eol on froyo. It still take a couple months after the updates released for it to be used

With a source like Pocket-lint it has to be "who the hell are they?"
No, really. I've never heard of these guys.

You wanna buy a bridge?
Well I heard they are killing the 2.4 release to solve the multi-screen issues, by releasing Android 2.5 "troufles" in July. So named because of the layers of screen, not shrooms ( did you get that big "G" ? )

And our long wait gets longer.

I'm LoL'ing at people who blindly believe the OP.

It's July already...where is Gingebread?!

Motorola are a bunch of SOB. They do this with EVERY major phone they release and it REALLY pisses me off Is it so hard to say something and then commit to it? Specially when Gingerbread has already been released for other Motorola models with a very similar configuration to the Atrix. It's very very frustrating having a phone like the Atrix that doesn't live to it's full potential due to poor build implementation. Is Motorola that stupid not to realize that once gingerbread hits the Atrix it will sell more and people will be happier with their product?!

You think motorola don't want to update all phones first of all the other companies?
The more fastest updates, the more developers/money they need..
Why they unlocked the bootloader?
To get more people to atrix...
And why before a couple of weeks..
To earn some time, and keep us busy and satisfied, to forget the upcoming update!!
Anyway.. Can't wait too for the update..
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Wait until July 31st then you are able to be annoyed. Its only the 7th. Settle down
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waiting too
I'm starting to to get anxious about the about update too. My wife's 7in Galaxy Tab (Sprint model) is getting Gingerbread this week, why not my Atrix.

As a person that owned 3 Motorola android phones - their update policies really piss me off.
They took forever to bring Froyo to Milestone, and still their final release contained a crappy kernel with error.
Now they are taking forever with GB for D2G and Atrix... If they don't keep their promise with unlocked bootloaders, this surely will be my last Motorola phone.

If my memory serves me right it was supposed to be the 11th. July when we got the update, so I for one will wait till at least the 12th. before I start moaning.

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Motorola are a bunch of SOB. They do this with EVERY major phone they release and it REALLY pisses me off Is it so hard to say something and then commit to it? Specially when Gingerbread has already been released for other Motorola models with a very similar configuration to the Atrix. It's very very frustrating having a phone like the Atrix that doesn't live to it's full potential due to poor build implementation. Is Motorola that stupid not to realize that once gingerbread hits the Atrix it will sell more and people will be happier with their product?!
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FYI, It's only July 7th, and a few days ago was a weekend and holiday. We are technically only 3 business days into July. Be patient.

You can always flash the leaked 2.3.4 build if you really can't bear to wait for the update.

to be honest, i can stand to wait a little longer so long as gingerbread is bug free.
the only thing i really want is a smoother browser. my last phone was a nokia n900, had that thing overclocked to 1.2ghz. whilst flash videos werent that great since it didnt really support flash 10 (no gpu accel), its browser was much faster and smoother.
sure you can argue that the atrix can render more pixels on the screen at any given time, but whats the point if its not smooth.
i also want to see if motorola have optimised motoblur. if its smoother, then i'll leave it as is. if not, im flashing this thing.

rawfa said:
Motorola are a bunch of SOB. They do this with EVERY major phone they release and it REALLY pisses me off Is it so hard to say something and then commit to it? Specially when Gingerbread has already been released for other Motorola models with a very similar configuration to the Atrix. It's very very frustrating having a phone like the Atrix that doesn't live to it's full potential due to poor build implementation. Is Motorola that stupid not to realize that once gingerbread hits the Atrix it will sell more and people will be happier with their product?!
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You bought the phone with Froyo, knowing it had Froyo, knowing it did not have GB, and Motorola has not said anything about a July release of GB. There has been mention in the past week or so on the Motorola boards of an upcoming soak test, that is all. Anything you read on other sites about release in July or any other time is pure speculation.
It doesn't matter which other devices have GB, the Atrix doesn't. Do you realise how much time it takes to develop, test, test, test these operating systems? Companies are not like the devs on the board here. They have procedures to follow, both internal and external. They quality test before releasing anything, hardware or software, then test some more.
I am sure Motorola does not want to release a buggy GB and are trying their best to give us a release which works as well as possible, so chill out and get off your high horse. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the world won't end if we have to wait a wee bit longer for GB on the Atrix.

Lol calm down its still pretty early. They never stated exactly when in july. Hopefully soon tho!
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it's only the first week in july. I wouldn't expect it until the last week of the month. If at all.
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I know this doesn't make things any better, but I don't Motorola every promised anything more than "Later this year". July was mostly what Kenneth inferred from his sources I believe.

JxWayne89 said:
Lol calm down its still pretty early. They never stated exactly when in july. Hopefully soon tho!
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Motorola has NEVER given any release date, month, etc.
Briefmobile said July. That is all.

If it dont come im going to trade my atrix for a mytouch4g slide, cant stay with this anymore... i had to develop things i wanted to my dext, dont want to suffer all over again with the atrix...

CaelanT, they said "in july we're releasing gb to the public" briefmode just posted this, but i heard of the CEO himself in a expo i went.

I'm about to stick to my Nexus if they don't hurry. ;(
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I would say hold the tantrum for August 1st. Then I'll be right there with ya.
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I would say since there is no official word from Motorola other than by the end of the year I would say come Jan 1st 2012 if it's not out then complain. I am looking forward to the release of GB just as much as the next Atrix owner but come on people learn a little patience. As the saying goes "Good things come to those who wait."

MdX MaxX said:
You can always flash the leaked 2.3.4 build if you really can't bear to wait for the update.
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This is only for unlocked bootloaders (AT&T phones), in case you haven't noticed we're from Brazil and we still have locked phones (along with all other countries/operators).
PS: I'm really sick of people who thinks Atrix is only sold on USA/AT&T or that we are a minority

ICS for Play confirmed!

SE Blog
If only all manufacturers could be as awesome as SE <3

Excellent news
Well done Sony (Ericsson) !
Seeing as I have an unlocked/unbranded handset, hopefully won't be too long a wait either

Love you Sony Ericsson, I have an unbranded UK r800i model so I'm hoping the wait isn't that long...
To be honest I never expected them to announce this until 2020.

Great!
Now lets hope Verizon gets it before they are up to Yellow fudge cake.

Rogue Leader said:
Great!
Now lets hope Verizon gets it before they are up to Yellow fudge cake.
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If Verizon releases ICS for the Play, then I will personally donate my unlocked device to OP.
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Wasnt ICS for the Play confirmed much earlier?

IE-coRe said:
Wasnt ICS for the Play confirmed much earlier?
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Apparently it was confirmed and then unconfirmed and no-one knew for sure if we'd get it or not, now we do

Leraeniesh said:
If Verizon releases ICS for the Play, then I will personally donate my unlocked device to OP.
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What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?

Cl8rs said:
What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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The fact that it took them months to distribute an update. The low sales. The lack of official SE support. And the low interest SE has with giving support for the R800x.
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Cl8rs said:
What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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Poor sales, and the fact that they just announced their releasing the source for 2.3.3 after this long. Pretty sure VZ could care less about ICS for the XP.
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It's interesting that they will be updating the low end (and low res) devices like the minis and the Live. There are lots of apps which don't support those resolutions anymore, isn't there?

That's one of the big reasons I think the American system is flawed, regarding to their (your) own different models of the same phone. In the end it's you as the customer that has to pay the price.
Not to say its confirmed you won't get it either. But doesn't sound like you have much faith in them (Verizon).
I realize this can be an issue in the rest of the world too depending on what manufacturer you have on the phone and their policy of updates (or lack of them). But it's not quite the same as companies demanding different hardware and stuff for their model of the same phone creating even more issues for customers.

VZW managed to get Froyo to the LG Ally, one of the worst Android phones, so I think we will get it. Pretty positive about that, if not, there is always XDA

Never expected "Live" to get it. But oh well, We won't get 4.1, thats the time I flash a custom rom.

TheCraig said:
Never expected "Live" to get it. But oh well, We won't get 4.1, thats the time I flash a custom rom.
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We dont even now what 4.1 will be so if it will be an update like 3.0 to 3.1 we will get it.

Anyone know the pro and cons of using ics over gingerbread?

Lol, Ics isn't even released in the Nexus yet. Give it some time to see how it works in real life. Eventually the idea is that Ics is an improvement over Gingerbread, so there shouldn't be any cons.