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BT WModem and COM ports....

Hi All,
Thanks for all the good suggestions I've got from this site over the last couple of days. I have a new problem for you now...
I see from searching this site that loads of people have had problems using the XDA / XDA II as a wireless modem, but I can't piece together quite what I have to do to get it working with bluetooth.
I've got the pdf from the o2 site, but it's not very clear, and I think it's targeted to W2000 not XP, which is what I have.
SO..... Would somebody be kind enough to let us all know what the step-by step process is to get a laptop, for example, talking to the internet via the XDA II, via BLUETOOTH.
I have the latest o2 ROM, so I have those 2 new check boxes in Bluetooth settings. Most of the laptop setup is ok, but I think the major question is regarding the ports.....
Which port is the XDA talking on?
Which port is the laptop talking on?
How do I make them talk to each other?
And to add to this question - the o2 pdf presumably gives instructions such that we end up using the GPRS line. Can this be modified to use the cellular line to dial up a standard ISP so I can use up some of my free minutes (that's what I do when surfing on the XDA II)?
Sorry it's a bit waffly - PLEASE help! Thanks very much!
Phil

www.o2.co.uk/xda
Under the Bonnet
User Guides
Oddly enough, a file called Using Xda II as a Modem.
Worked for me.

Oddly enough... that's the pdf I'm talking about.
It's not very clear about the COM ports - it says to select the "correct COM port for your connection", so the bit I'm asking about is how to decide upon or determine which is the correct com port for my connection. The important issue here is the bluetooth communication.
It's step-by-step modem and connection guide is also incorrect for XP (mine anyway - as I said, I suspect it's written for 2000, not 2000/XP), so there could be errors in my modem setup - I need to make sure that's not the case as well.
Any more ideas?

OK - let me put this another way - Before pressing connect on the WModem program on the XDA II, do you have to setup a bluetooth serial connection to the PC? If so, HOW? How do you simply make the connection?
Please help - somebody?
Thanks,
Phil

Just to make sure we are on the same document
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
You first install your bluetooth adapter on your PC and this should install a bluetooth modem on your PC. You then configure that as described in the first section "Desktop setting:" make sure you change the word internet with your service providors APN in the advanced setting string.
Thats your PC side finished for now. no connections made yet.
Ok on to the XDA II, follow the instructions in the next section "Getting Start:" Steps 1 - 6 are all on your XDA II. Now it is waiting to be a modem. Move to your PC and follow the rest of the steps and you hsould get connected.
I used the O2 free WAP APN for my connections when i set it up. This meant having to set the proxy in IE just as you do on the XDA II if you want to browse. This gives limited function for anything other than browsing but for free thats fine for me.
I have not yet tested an ISP using this method but it will be a matter of removing the advanced string in the modem settings and using your ISP details and phone number in the dial pop up instead of *99#. I have done this before with my old nokia 7650.
Also remember if dialing into an ISP like that instead you will only get 9600 baud rate as opposed to the 42k odd that GPRS will give you. However this is fine for most light emails and IMs etc.
Oh and i did bond the 2 devices first. i nearly forgot that.
I Hope this helps you get sorted.

It works fine for GPRS. However when I try to connect to an ISP, I get a "line is busy" message. Any clues?

Dingo - you're great. That's got it.
The pdf that's on the user guide section of 'under the bonnet' section in the XDA site is
http://smsgen.o2-uktech.com/xda2/Xda_II_Modem_Setup_Guide.pdf
which is NAFF!
Your instructions are much better!
I'll try the ISP method soon - I'll let you know if it works.
Cheers!
Phil

OK - looks like I've got the ISP method working.
The process on the XDA is identical, but the modem settings are slightly different. The extra initialisation string can be done away with, and in the security tab of the connection (in network connections) "typical" must be selected rather than "advanced".
Other than that, it's all the sam, for me at least. I use UK2 as my ISP. It's very handy - no registration required.
Hope this helps.
Phil

ISP works for me too. I had to change in CSD line type the data rate to 9600 bps(v.32).
Being used to ADSL, 9600 bps brings back memories

Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread - it's helped me connect my laptop to the net thru my XDA2 over bluetooth for the first time!
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone might clear up for me:
1. I've used "mobile.o2.co.uk" in the init string and dialled with *99# which works but the XDA doesn't show any change to the connection icon. Is it using GPRS or data over voice or magic?!
2. Although web and mail downloads works great, I can't send email - I get it returned saying '550 relay not permitted'. A port issue I guess? Can that be solved?
Thanks for your time - keep up the good work.
Andy.

HSDPA VIA TYTYN FROM PC ..??

Hi,
I was just wondering how to use my tytyn phone as a high speed modem from my pc..? basically I want to be able to connect my phone to laptop and surf at High speeds when on the move... anyone know how to do this..? I though you just connect via active sync and it defaults to your phone connection.. but any help is appreciated.. thanks.. :wink:

You need to turn Bluetooth on both devices. Pair them together and have your laptop use the Dial-Up service provided by your phone. No username and password. Just dial *99#

Thanks fo your reply.. but I dont have bluetooth on laptop.. can I use usb instead..?

Ok.. I tried the following but it didnt work... ! I connected phone to laptop via USb, then started wireless modem on phone, laptop (XP) picks up new modem, created new dial up with moblie as modem and *99# as dial up number, I see connections flashing on mobile and dial up attempts to connect but fails on user/pass , I triedleaving them blank, then user/wap (im on t-mobile) none of which worked.... any help is appreciated...

I am watching this thread with interest too.
I have a Bluetooth adapter for my laptop but would like to see what the experts say on here first..

FINALLY WORKING WITH 800KBPS DOWNLOAD..!!!!!!!
I finally got it working with my t mobile vario 2 ... if you have the same then the APN is general.t-mobile.uk and uername /pass is user pass
the rest of the settings I got from this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37298&highlight=gprs+laptop
Now im surfing the net at nearly 1mb from my car..!!!!!!!!

Awsome! Watch your driving as you're sniping that eBay item though :shock:

ive been using my hsdpa via my vario 2 over bluetooth today and its very quick, someone was saying that there speed slowed down dramatically when they used it over bluetooth but i can confirm that they were tell porkies. Ive done speed tests on many different sites today through out the day and got 1.7mb every single time.
It is just like using wifi at home on 8mb for surfing sites, obviously downloading is slower though

bluetooth/internet or modem

A am sure this has been asked before, but i couldn't find a clear answer.
1) What are the steps I have to take to connect my bluetooth enabled laptop to my 8125 so that I can surf the internet on the laptop? I have an unlimited data plan for my 8125.
2) What are the steps I have to take to use my 8125 as a wireless modem with a bluetooth connection to the laptop?
I have found different answers (set up the active sync and it should work, instructions how to use the laptop as a gateway for the 8125), but the answer to my questions above has so far eluded me.
Can you help? Thanks.

Once you find out....let me know....Ive been wanting to do the same thing.

its quite simple, turn on bluetooth on both devices and do a search for devices on your laptop, pair the two and one of the services from your phone should be dial up networking. select that, and it should i belive automatically set up a dial up connection, if not just create one with your blkuetooth device as the modem, and the phone number to dial wil be *99# that should be it, i figure you most prolly dont need a username/ password, and you would know if you had one or not.

Goldy said:
its quite simple, turn on bluetooth on both devices and do a search for devices on your laptop, pair the two and one of the services from your phone should be dial up networking. select that, and it should i belive automatically set up a dial up connection, if not just create one with your blkuetooth device as the modem, and the phone number to dial wil be *99# that should be it, i figure you most prolly dont need a username/ password, and you would know if you had one or not.
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Sounds simple....I think the info I was looking for was: Do I need a dial up account and/or a data plan on my cell phone?
I think they did away with the 5.99 T-zones.
So either its pay for a slow dial up account....or get raped by Tmobile for their internet plan.

Free Internet - Two Mobiles via Modem Functionality and Data Call

Hey there,
I've been searching the net and this forum for a long while but did not find anything close. Here's what I have in mind:
I have a mobile plan that allows free calls within the provider network. I have a couple of phones, normal mobiles, but also three HTC devices.
I would like to place one HTC device (WM5 or WM6 with Wifi or via ActiveSync) at home, where it will always stay on and is connected to the Wifi or the internet via ActiveSync. This device contains a SIM CARD and therefore is callable.
Now, when I am out, I'd like to use my other phone and basically dial-up the phone at home for a data connection (DUN). This part should be easy.
The tough part is: How do I get my phone at home to pick up the call, treat it as a data call and route the data through the Wifi or ActiveSync to provide internet over this call/connection.
Anyone done anything like that? Ideas?

Is this wat ur looking for ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251957
second page

well, thanks for the hint. This would only solve part of the problem, but I am more worried about the modem part.
Now, I've changed the scenario a bit and I think this should be doable, yet I fail to get Vista to setup a incoming connection via Bluetooth modem...
New scenario:
Vista Internet PC connected to HTC WM5 via Bluetooth, Bluetooth Modem detected and useable on PC.
In Win98, I think, I was able to set up an incoming modem connection, so it would pick up automatically and take the call as a data call and route it over the local network. This would be perfect!
In Vista, I don't manage to find this incoming connection option anymore.
Yet, this solution would need a running PC all the time, not perfect. So if anyone has an idea on how to do this solely on a HTC WM5 device, this would be brilliant!

Internet over Bluetooth??

Has anyone had any luck with this.
I have instructs that basically say. Pair device. Let it auto discover the com port modem.
Create a dialup using *99#
Dial away.
Problem is it doesn't work. Can see modem etc however can't query the modem and dialup fails quite quickly.
Help

You need to provide more details as to what you did, step by step and also your GPRS service provider if someone has to help more.
I have tried HD with Internet over bluetooth with CDMA. But with GPRS over blutooth i suppose you need to edit the registry to dial the init strings as AT commands. May be someone who actually has done can help you more. Finally in my opinion it is a bit clumsier and also less reliable and more power hungry than using internet access(GPRS/EDGE/3G) from the SIM in the HD.

use the Internet Sharing program on your HD, works better than the dialup option. You'll need to first set up an activesync partnership before you're able to use it though. Good luck!

vince_b said:
use the Internet Sharing program on your HD, works better than the dialup option. You'll need to first set up an activesync partnership before you're able to use it though. Good luck!
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This answers the question as to why it never worked for me, I may have a tinker later.