I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
It sounds like for what you desire, someone would have to write a program to do that. If there was a program that did that, I would be interested in trying it out.
basically you have to accept the fact that its JUST TOO BIG
to ever be used as a conventional phone.
After I took ONE call on mine , i went straight out and bought a headset and its much better than using any phone which i loathe to do anyway.
I dont think of my athena as a phone , its a mini laptop that can make phone calls, you have to accept that or get another phone
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
i understand your dilemma but the only other real solution i can think of is to use a wired headset, it has better outgoing sound quality and you don't need to charge it.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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If you are so desprate to use the athena this way, I think the safest and easiest way is to put adhesive tape over the speaker holes to muffle the sound, and then punch a few holes in one to your liking
You could Just superglue it to the side of your face
you really will have to face the fact that you may have to develop this programme yourself if you wish to use the ameo as a normal handset - i use the term loosely - the problem with it is that whilst the ameo is the coolest gadget going as a mini pc, it is the most embarrassing thing in the world to press against your face, and also leaves you open to a VERY easy snatch if you get it out in public. And yes people who look like bellends are more susceptible to street crime. That's a fact, i'm sure of it. I chose my ameo knowing of its failings and devised my own solution of using it for data purposes only with wifi or a bluetooth dialup connection to my phone, which in turn i use for making calls and texting. Other people use bluetooth headsets and seem to get along with them fine. Until a kaiser quality device with a vga screen comes out i am happy to accept the ameos inconveniences and love it for what it is.
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.....Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
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You might want to try PocketZenPhone, a software that does profiles for the phone. It is an on-going project and the developper handles requests which he incorporates into the soft. It might just be a case of developing another profile for you called "semi-mute" or something .
Or just stick with a BT headset, like the rest of us.
Thanks very much, Abram. Will check that out.
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
hdubli,
what do you mean when you say "reduce the in call volume to zero"? Do you just mean moving the slider all the way to the bottom? For me, that's still pretty loud. I can hear it easily well away from my ear. Or, do you mean something else? Thanks.
evermore said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
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well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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The originator of the 'bellend' jibe just happens to be the man who devised a working CID and SIM unlock solution for this device: he would have been somewhat ancapacitated if his laptop had been glued shut.
I think that the use of such informal and slightly crude words as "bellend" is acceptable given the incorrigable nature of the problem: the idea of pressing a mini pc up against your face is crude in itself.
Given that I used to believe I could make a flying machine out of a monopoly board, a leather jacket and a tricycle, perhaps the same naive 4 year old might have thought it possible to turn a handset large enough to eat a ploughman's lunch off into a pocketable handset. I've grown up a little since then, and I use the Ameo for what it does best, rather than trying to make it into something it isn't.
YES I remember BIG phones. I also remember BBC Microcomputers, Shellsuits and televisions with teak surrounds but fortunately I've seen fit to move on since then, and find them a little embarrassing now.
If members wish to inform other members of the fruitlessness of their ideas then I don't think this is a problem (particularly if these members [Olipro] have a track record and know EXACTLY what they are talking about): the solutions of course are obvious and oft-discussed: bluetooth headset; turn volume down and press against ear; or don't use it as a phone at all.
Maybe you can't have your cake AND eat it.
johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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Feel better now? ;-)
Olipro said:
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
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Yes, I would like to request a hack for the phone so I can make myself look foolish and like a big bellend (whatever that means) in public.
I don't think I can look either foolish or like a bellend...no matter what I do. I just got it like that. LOL ;-p
I may even start a new trend. he he he
Hi to all and hope you guys are having a great day! YEA BABY!!!
hdubli said:
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
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Quite frankly, this works with me, if I feel like holding the x7500 to my head. Of course, the call volume you hear depends on how good your hearing is, so YMMV. I find myself using a BT when I'm around others, either the LG Style-I or the Jawbone. (I'm eyeing the Jabra BT 8010 also). But the bottom line is you can use the x7500 as a handset this way if that's your preference.
Perfect solution!!!
Okay, get ready for this guys!
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution.
Hope this helps someone ;-)
http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
Ok, ok...all kidding aside, one of the coders may want to write something to make this possible. I would use it. I've been caught without my headset before and didn't want to answer the phone because there were people around me. This is a good backup solution and I would use it as that...a backup i ncase my headset battery went out (even though I have a spare headset) and in case I forgot my headset at home....GOD forbid!
ltxda said:
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution. http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
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I love it! My only suggstion is the guy in the picture needs to ditch his hat in favor of the tin foil model with the built-in antenna.
I havent actually taken my phone out of the house yet, so I dont have any actual experience with the vibration (having it in my pocket and seeing if i feel anything). But wow, it seems really weak to me.
Usually I can hear my phone vibrate against the table when im at home, but I cant hear anything from the X1 at all.
Do you guys frequently miss texts and calls because of the weak vibration? or is it actually decent and im just crazy?
nope vibration strong.
Nippero said:
I havent actually taken my phone out of the house yet, so I dont have any actual experience with the vibration (having it in my pocket and seeing if i feel anything). But wow, it seems really weak to me.
Usually I can hear my phone vibrate against the table when im at home, but I cant hear anything from the X1 at all.
Do you guys frequently miss texts and calls because of the weak vibration? or is it actually decent and im just crazy?
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I find it pretty weak also..along with the horrible speaker position, I too miss texts and calls.
If it wasn't for the vibration i'd be screwed. The ringtones are so low compared to videos/games. I don't understand what's wrong with the ringtones! I'm playing an mp3 and it sounds like 5 times lower volume then when I play it in a media player...what gives?
Is the volume of your ringtone loud? Tend to find most custom ringtones don't have enough amplification.
artesea said:
Is the volume of your ringtone loud? Tend to find most custom ringtones don't have enough amplification.
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I bump the volume up of my tones in Audacity
Well, bouth the vibration and speaker is as bad as the w880i. All ringtones that use anything but treble is crap. The vibration is better with pulse vibration. So i use Valert that i found here at xda.
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Well, bouth the vibration and speaker is as bad as the w880i. All ringtones that use anything but treble is crap. The vibration is better with pulse vibration. So i use Valert that i found here at xda.
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Does it change the SMS vibration as well as the incoming call vibration? I just want the SMS really, I don't mind my calls going to voicemail.
hmm I'm just using a regular mp3, but the thing is if I play it through coreplayer or the media panel it sounds a lot louder then when I have it set to a ringtone. Should I really have to increase the volume of a regular mp3? It's just going to distort it. I think it's mostly the speaker placement as it is easily covered.
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Well, bouth the vibration and speaker is as bad as the w880i. All ringtones that use anything but treble is crap. The vibration is better with pulse vibration. So i use Valert that i found here at xda.
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I download valert and installed it to my phone. however, i can't find the program in the program list of the phone. Can you tell me how to execute this program or least where do i find/run the program from ?
On first install it puts the EXE in the Autostart folder, you can find it here, but it should be running automatically on every boot.
Weak?
Damn, when my X1 rings I feel like I just bought one of those machines you stand on and it vibrates your whole body for exercise.
The loudness depends on file.
I have one which is TERRIBLY loud.
Hi folks,
Hope you can help.
I've switched off haptic feedback on the keyboard and find it a lot more usable without it. I've activated the "clicky" sound on the keys as this suits me best, however, the volume of the click driving the wife and my co-workers mental. I even got some dirty looks this morning on the train from others as I furiously (not really) typed out some emails.
Problem is, the keyboard sound volume seems to be tied in directly with the system sounds volume!
I need the system sounds high for text message alerts etc, but then, the keyboard is super loud; bring it down to an acceptable level and I can't hear texts coming in etc. To be honest even on low setting its excessively loud..
Is there any way around this? A reg tweak, substituting the wav file with a lower volume one? I don't even know where to start to be honest and appreciate any help you guys can give.
Thanks in advance!!!
wab
Sorry guys, just saw this thread. Didn't come up earlier for some reason:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588179&highlight=Keyboard+Volume
I tried the CAB there and it didn't lower the volume noticably. Is there a way to lower if further?
I've made a quieter version (attached). It's probably too quiet now
It's probably best if you uninstall the last version first, a soft reset is required after installation
Thanks soooo much!!
Installed and its better already!
Thanks again.
wab
Hi all,
love the HD2 got 2 mail problems with it,
1) email is not reliable on pop 3, have to do soft resets to get it working again,
2) audio is crackly on the device and on some calls it sounds like there is distortion. audio is the same on headset , but clear as bell on music or vids.
Any comments will be appreciated. I am coming up to my 7 days caecal time limit and deciding what to do,
MB
1) I don't use POP3 but PUSH mail so can't help you about it.
2) Audio is not crackly on mine, the speaker is not like a hi-fi speaker but the sound is not too bad. With headset, the sound is perfect. if you want to configure it, you can use the Audio-Amplifier ; or SRS WOW (Leo's Themes & Apps section).
HTC's WinMo phones aren't phones like others. If you don't like to configure, set, and work to make your device better ; if you don't like to flash your phone every week D), don't buy an HD2. But if you like it, and if you like to allways be up-to-date of every patch, apps, tweak for your Leo, then buy one, and you'll have the better phone in the world
if you just want a phone to take call, send sms and receive email, you can buy an other phone, more easy to use, and which need less configuration and tweaks. Less power, but easier.
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1) I don't use POP3 but PUSH mail so can't help you about it.
2)
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The usefulness of your email is well hidden, young padewan.
More seriously though....I've not noticed any crackly audio on mine so maybe it's your particular unit. Also POP3 mail has been working fine on mine, no problems with Yahoo mail. Perhaps your email provider might be at fault there.
Jim Coleman said:
The usefulness of your email is well hidden, young padewan.
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Sorry Yoda, I've just clicked on "Submit" accidently before to have finished to tape my answer
I have the same problem on my HD2. When I make a call somethimes I can hardly hear the person on the other line because of distortion(cracky sound).
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I have the same problem on my HD2. When I make a call somethimes I can hardly hear the person on the other line because of distortion(cracky sound).
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So its not just my ears lol! two units in a row I have had do this. And cant try the latest firmware as Vodafone uk have not released it (they take for ever in this regard).
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Same problem on my HTC HD2. The audio quality is really bad. Unfortunately even after the latest firmware the issue is still there!
My call quality isnt crackly, when the person is speaking, its fine, but when they are not, I get distortion. sorta like a bass sound. which differs depending on where the person im talking to is, and what type of phone they are on.
I suppose its the HD2 trying to distinguish background noise.
Ok so this is problem which more than one person has, I would guess a hardware replacement is the only option.
I also get that bass effect, you have described it perfectly!
Damn!
I know this has been talked about, but there seems to be mixed results, I have searched everywhere, and I have tried all the different suggestions, but I still have this issue. As for in call volume, I have no complaints, my primary complaints are When a call comes (Ringer) in its not anywhere as loud as my TP2 use to be, or even how the HD2 was in WinMo. and the other area is notification.
Again I have tried, deleting the htcleo.acdb and runing the default.acdb, I tried replacing the htcleo, replacing the default, and each one either makes it lower or no difference at all. I even had one that made the ring volume sound low and as if it was on speed.
So what I am asking is, for the people who have HD2's and say there's is loud, would it be too much trouble for you guys to attach your sound file so I can test it and see if it will help my phone out? Cause like I said alot of us are saying its low, and others are saying its too loud, and unless I am wrong, the acdb file should work across on the HD2 phones right? At this point I'll try anything.
Thanks to anyone who does, cause its the only thing driving me crazy.
Okay Can anyone confirm something I just ran into please? As I was browsing through the file system, I notice this:
etc/firmware - default.acdb
system/etc/firmware - default.acdb
data/etc/firmware - default.acdb
I thought it was only two locations not 3!?
Also can anyone tell me what the MFG.acdb is for? Thats also in all three locations.
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I just tried my HTC Aria its stock with the AT&T android, and the sad part is its louder then my damn HD2
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I know this has been talked about, but there seems to be mixed results, I have searched everywhere, and I have tried all the different suggestions, but I still have this issue. As for in call volume, I have no complaints, my primary complaints are When a call comes (Ringer) in its not anywhere as loud as my TP2 use to be, or even how the HD2 was in WinMo. and the other area is notification.
Again I have tried, deleting the htcleo.acdb and runing the default.acdb, I tried replacing the htcleo, replacing the default, and each one either makes it lower or no difference at all. I even had one that made the ring volume sound low and as if it was on speed.
So what I am asking is, for the people who have HD2's and say there's is loud, would it be too much trouble for you guys to attach your sound file so I can test it and see if it will help my phone out? Cause like I said alot of us are saying its low, and others are saying its too loud, and unless I am wrong, the acdb file should work across on the HD2 phones right? At this point I'll try anything.
Thanks to anyone who does, cause its the only thing driving me crazy.
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same problem for me maybe nothing is useful at the moment...