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This is just something I stumbled across a while ago but haven't had the time to post it. I'm not making any promises so this is just a head's up.
If anyone remembers my last post on skype here, you'll recall me saying that there's a Disable Codecs key in the registry. Well I didn't know the codecs but SkypeSmart over at Skype forums posted this tweak for his iPaq and it works a treat.
I'm running my Mini S with the original ROM and skype with my key reading: ILBC G729 EG711U
As a result it only uses the EG711A codec and guess what, it works, at stock speed too. My phone is an utter mess but it works at an acceptable level that is to say both parties can hear the conversation without any hiccups. Tested over a WiFi link but be warned you'll lose connectivity with echo123 and it also seems to me that Skype Linux doesn't have the EG711A or EG711U or even the G729 codecs so you won't be able to chat with them unless you enable ILBC.
One thing worth testing is to see what happens in a conference call (with a Windows machine as host and a Linux machine and the wizard with some of the codecs disabled) but I don't have the time to test so be my guest and post the results if you do test it.
By the way, I use Skype v2 Feb 14 release. If anyone wants to post their overclocked results or anything, great.
Indeed it does work and VERY well. I just called across a very sketchy broadband connection and audio in BOTH ways was clear. Before, I could be heard by the other party but could not hear them in return. Once I overclocked, I could actually have a couple of pragrams running in the background and still have acceptable resources left. Bravo to whoever came up with this tweak.
How far did you overclock? Also, I know a lot of people are viewing this thread but only one response so far...does that mean the rest of you are enjoying Skype? :shock:
i use skype with my wizard very well and i can use skypeout as well.
i installed for the high cpu usage, not low cpu usage. but i also use omapoverclock.
what i did, just installed skype, then change the content of d shortcut using total commander in windows/start menu/programs/skype.lnk with this one:
46#"\program files\omapclock.exe" -clock 240 -launch "\Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe" -restore?Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe,
in this case, i put omapclock file in 'program files' folder, and don't forget to use "," sign in the last content of skype. because it gives u back d skype icon, otherwise u'll see omapclock icon.
Gut luck!!! and i hope this can be useful 4 u...
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i remember trying this on my wizard...i placed a call to a land phone and i could not hear the other phone ring or anything.. but t did call..
What am i doing wrong?
Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????
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Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????
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You're not. Apparently the M600 is the only phone which might support non-speakerphone chat on skype. I heard that its latest ROM does exactly what you want it do. I don't know if its a Skype specific issue or whether it's ROM specific but I have not seen any apps other than the phone app itself take advantage of the earpiece.
@guyver2077:
If you're referring to the tweak I listed, what does it do when you call PCs? I made a skype out call actually 3 of them and I could hear all of them clearly - 1 to Guam , 2 to HK and I'm in the UK.
@Ricky:
Does 240MHz eat away at the battery life, especially with WiFi on?
I just spent the last few days setting up a Linksys NSLU2 with DebianSlug and it works great; Samba works with the phone too 8). A little tempted to get a bluetooth dongle to stick to the slug so that I can connect to the net over bluetooth when possible but the BT stack on the mobile doesn't support BT networking does it?
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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When I said speakerphone I meant simply that the sound is coming out at the same volume as media player, etc if that makes sense. There's no reason for you not to be able to hear a thing though. :?
Thanks AsGF2MX, It works great with the headfones I just don't normally use them.
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ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
Do you have a BT headset? If so open the audio gateway (either using the program posted in this forum or via Voice Command press BT button and just say "Open Skype", the Audio gate will stay open).
This should allow you to use your BT headset for Skype calls.
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guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
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I suppose you're right, that would explain things but is there an option to actually channel audio to the ear piece? If not, then it's definitely an issue with the way the device ROMs are designed (assuming that there is a way for software to utilize the ear piece).
Well, I'm glad a few people found it useful and I hope it's working for the rest of you as well. I might just pick-up OMAP clock a little later and try to see how well an overclock fares on my device but first, I'm going to try a few apps I've been wanting to try for a while.
Great tip!
I have previously tried Skype on my Qtek 9100 but have always found the audio quality quite bad, even when overclocking to 240.
After changing the DisableCodecs as suggested here, the audio quality is now really good, also when using SkypeOut to a Fixednet phone.
Thanks for the tip!
Yes Great tip, thanks
Can someone point me in the direction of the program that opens the audio gateway?
I don't have MS Voice Command, I only have the default "Voice Speed Dial".
EDIT: FOUND IT!!!
Therez two actually. one is btAudio, and the other is VjVolubilis
After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi
I have been reading this thread with interest. I own an old XDA (one with aerial) and now the XDA Mini S. Have had it now for about 6 months and sync up to 2 pc's, have multiple email accounts, use the Wifi/msn - so use pretty much all of functionality. Happy so far!
I installed the pocket pc version of Skype last night - and found that this morning my alarm went off - but with no options displayed on the screen to snooze/dismiss alarm! Consequently - the alarm/vibrate goes off every 5 minutes - and only thing i can do is remove the battery -so phone basically unusable. Soft reset does not help - and would rather not hard reset as then will have to redo email settings etc.
Anyone out there had this problem before? Your help would be appreciated (think you are calling the XDA mini a wizard)
OS Build: 5.1.70 (14406.1.1.1)
ROM: 1.5.4.2 WWE
ROM date: 11/8/05
Radio: 01.09.10
Protocol: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM: 1.5.4.103
Have you removed the Skype software already?
After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi - Yes, I have removed Skype from the XDA Mini. Soft-reset again - no difference.
I had that alarm problem once.
I'd had my cingular 8125 (HTC wizard) for a week or two and had been putting apps on it and messing with the registry, then one morning my alarm went off, I reached over to silence it, pushed some random button accidentally, and the alarm kept on going. I opened my eyes and sat there for a minute waiting for my brain to boot up because I wasn't seeing the notice showing me which softkey to press. After awhile, I realized that I was completely awake, and there really was no way to turn the alarm off!
I messed around with that thing forever. Scrolling through menus, doing soft resets, etc. Nothing would silence the alarm. I tried reseting the time/date and doing a soft reset, but every time the device booted up, it would go nuts with alarm tones (they kept multiplying! Every time I would reset the time after having set it back, another alarm would go off and they started piling up!).
Boy, that really ruined my morning.
I ended up having to do a hard reset to fix the problem. And when I ran my latest backup, the problem came right back! So I had to do another hard reset and roll back to an earlier backup.
I really don't know what the problem was, but I think I might have a slight idea. I had downloaded some program called CheckNotifications by Scarybear software (I now know it's not meant for WM5) and I think I must have deleted that alarm notification from the "notification database". (No, I don't actually know what any of that means, I'm just regurgitating words I read online in a manner which seems to make a little sense). So some parte of the OS somewhere remembered the alarm, and turned it on at the right time, but the part of the OS responsible for giving you the facility to turn it off was screwed. But that's just a wild guess.
Maybe you also have some issue with your notification database.
Good luck! Of course, if you were anywhere near as annoyed as I was, you probably already said a few (dozen) choice curse words and did a hard reset.
(edit: clarified phone)
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
It sounds like for what you desire, someone would have to write a program to do that. If there was a program that did that, I would be interested in trying it out.
basically you have to accept the fact that its JUST TOO BIG
to ever be used as a conventional phone.
After I took ONE call on mine , i went straight out and bought a headset and its much better than using any phone which i loathe to do anyway.
I dont think of my athena as a phone , its a mini laptop that can make phone calls, you have to accept that or get another phone
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
i understand your dilemma but the only other real solution i can think of is to use a wired headset, it has better outgoing sound quality and you don't need to charge it.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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If you are so desprate to use the athena this way, I think the safest and easiest way is to put adhesive tape over the speaker holes to muffle the sound, and then punch a few holes in one to your liking
You could Just superglue it to the side of your face
you really will have to face the fact that you may have to develop this programme yourself if you wish to use the ameo as a normal handset - i use the term loosely - the problem with it is that whilst the ameo is the coolest gadget going as a mini pc, it is the most embarrassing thing in the world to press against your face, and also leaves you open to a VERY easy snatch if you get it out in public. And yes people who look like bellends are more susceptible to street crime. That's a fact, i'm sure of it. I chose my ameo knowing of its failings and devised my own solution of using it for data purposes only with wifi or a bluetooth dialup connection to my phone, which in turn i use for making calls and texting. Other people use bluetooth headsets and seem to get along with them fine. Until a kaiser quality device with a vga screen comes out i am happy to accept the ameos inconveniences and love it for what it is.
evermore said:
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.....Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
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You might want to try PocketZenPhone, a software that does profiles for the phone. It is an on-going project and the developper handles requests which he incorporates into the soft. It might just be a case of developing another profile for you called "semi-mute" or something .
Or just stick with a BT headset, like the rest of us.
Thanks very much, Abram. Will check that out.
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
hdubli,
what do you mean when you say "reduce the in call volume to zero"? Do you just mean moving the slider all the way to the bottom? For me, that's still pretty loud. I can hear it easily well away from my ear. Or, do you mean something else? Thanks.
evermore said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
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well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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The originator of the 'bellend' jibe just happens to be the man who devised a working CID and SIM unlock solution for this device: he would have been somewhat ancapacitated if his laptop had been glued shut.
I think that the use of such informal and slightly crude words as "bellend" is acceptable given the incorrigable nature of the problem: the idea of pressing a mini pc up against your face is crude in itself.
Given that I used to believe I could make a flying machine out of a monopoly board, a leather jacket and a tricycle, perhaps the same naive 4 year old might have thought it possible to turn a handset large enough to eat a ploughman's lunch off into a pocketable handset. I've grown up a little since then, and I use the Ameo for what it does best, rather than trying to make it into something it isn't.
YES I remember BIG phones. I also remember BBC Microcomputers, Shellsuits and televisions with teak surrounds but fortunately I've seen fit to move on since then, and find them a little embarrassing now.
If members wish to inform other members of the fruitlessness of their ideas then I don't think this is a problem (particularly if these members [Olipro] have a track record and know EXACTLY what they are talking about): the solutions of course are obvious and oft-discussed: bluetooth headset; turn volume down and press against ear; or don't use it as a phone at all.
Maybe you can't have your cake AND eat it.
johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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Feel better now? ;-)
Olipro said:
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
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Yes, I would like to request a hack for the phone so I can make myself look foolish and like a big bellend (whatever that means) in public.
I don't think I can look either foolish or like a bellend...no matter what I do. I just got it like that. LOL ;-p
I may even start a new trend. he he he
Hi to all and hope you guys are having a great day! YEA BABY!!!
hdubli said:
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
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Quite frankly, this works with me, if I feel like holding the x7500 to my head. Of course, the call volume you hear depends on how good your hearing is, so YMMV. I find myself using a BT when I'm around others, either the LG Style-I or the Jawbone. (I'm eyeing the Jabra BT 8010 also). But the bottom line is you can use the x7500 as a handset this way if that's your preference.
Perfect solution!!!
Okay, get ready for this guys!
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution.
Hope this helps someone ;-)
http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
Ok, ok...all kidding aside, one of the coders may want to write something to make this possible. I would use it. I've been caught without my headset before and didn't want to answer the phone because there were people around me. This is a good backup solution and I would use it as that...a backup i ncase my headset battery went out (even though I have a spare headset) and in case I forgot my headset at home....GOD forbid!
ltxda said:
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution. http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
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I love it! My only suggstion is the guy in the picture needs to ditch his hat in favor of the tin foil model with the built-in antenna.
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Sure the build quality is nice.
Sure the internet browsing is fantastic.
Now the basic functions of the phone:
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
Unfortunately you are right, I am having the same issue. I don't care about the Camera.. I just need to perfrom the basic phone features.
Hopefully HTC is reading us.
We are still using the first Stock ROM which is obviously buggy and it is expected.
However, HTC should hurry up and come up with a new upgrade and Hotfix patches, else, I will seriously consider selling the device. I can't wait more than two other weeks.
only problem with mine is the camera...none of the other issues you say you have...
to bad
People said the same things with the blackstone and diamond, magic, atom, kaiser etc etc etc. Is this your first HTC? last phone a nokia? For every problem you stated there's a solution, reg tweaks, programs what ever. This is my 5th htc device, they all start out like crap but once their tweakt they are superior to any other phone. But once again out of the box it's no nokia.
Good luck and good hunting (for the tweaks)
Um... slight exageration... there a couple niggles so its the worst phone ever? I think its the best phone ever, with a few niggles.
I dont have a problem with my texts being delayed. It lags a little bit when there are loads of texts, but I just clear them out. (one niggle I would like fixing though)
The speaker volume for me is perfect, yes it is loud, but I just keep it turned down and its fine, but it also means if I need to I can turn it up! which is a much better than not being able to have it loud enough. (Fine the way it is)
Speakerphone is supposed to be loud?! again, set it to a low volume and its fine, and if you need it to be louder then you can turn it up. (Fine the way it is)
Dont care about the hard keys lighting up, took me maybe a day, if that to get used to where the buttons are, dont need them to light up (Fine the way it is)
CoPilot is rubbish, but thats nothing to do with the phone, use iGO its miles better.
Calender snooze option, I hadnt noticed, will have a look...
As to if you phone is faulty, I would say operator error
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Sure it has a lovely screen.
Sure the build quality is nice.
Sure the internet browsing is fantastic.
Now the basic functions of the phone:
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
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Never had the sms problem
Huh on the phone volume?? Maybe im def or something becuase this seems perfect in my opinion.
Speakerphone... see volume comment above
I don't use copilot, i use tomtom, so no problem here. When i tried it out, it s worked perfectly for my route
Never tried the calendar snooze, but that isn't enough for me to agree with you.
SO i have to completely dsagree, best device ive owned by FAAAAR
loomx said:
As to if you phone is faulty, I would say operator error
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LOL, amen loom
sunking101 said:
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Sure the build quality is nice.
Sure the internet browsing is fantastic.
Now the basic functions of the phone:
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
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Put it down on the table and walk away, it's just a phone not a crisis point in your life.
Dogtag said:
People said the same things with the blackstone and diamond, magic, atom, kaiser etc etc etc. Is this your first HTC? last phone a nokia? For every problem you stated there's a solution, reg tweaks, programs what ever. This is my 5th htc device, they all start out like crap but once their tweakt they are superior to any other phone. But once again out of the box it's no nokia.
Good luck and good hunting (for the tweaks)
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basically this ^^^^
Hd2 = best phone / pda ever made
I am a heavy phone / PDA user ( around 7000 min per mounth phone and i have un unlimited data contract). My only problem is that HD2 was not here 10 years ago .
Sure is not perfect and bugs are there too but if u want a bug free phone buy a classic phone not a small computer. The OS and the HTC senses are very complex programs and there is no way hell to be ever bug free.
So all HTC phones are rubbish out of the box, I need to 'tweak' them in order to get them to work? I don't mind tweaking things but basic phone functions such as speakerphone, call volume and texting *should* work out of the box. All of you who claim your phone volume is fine must be deaf! There are several guys on this forum who complain about the in-call volume, speakerphone volume and distortion coming through the speakers....so this isn't a one-off faulty handset that I own.
Take the hands off that phone and walk away. It's better for both sides.
Disappointed people, sell the God damn thing
Sell it to me cheap then! I'll be happy to pass it on to someone who appreciates it more (and has more patience)
Ah ah ah ah
Why were you so hurry to buy such expensive phone ???
Weren't you able to wait some times to see if some issues raised
Your post is ... what´s the word you like to use ... ah yes ! your post is rubbish.
Sell you phone, you are not the kind of youngster that needs such a phone
Last week I sold my iPhone 3G 16Gb and two days ago I bought my first HTC device - the HD2. Yes, it has some bugs, yes, I reseted it several times, but overall the experience is great. From the problems, mentioned in the first post, I have only the last one, but the camera in my iPhone was nowhere near the HD2 one. So, I am very happy, it is a great phone with a great community. Someone complaint that you need to tweak the device before use it, but that is a positive thing, take the iPhone, which in most cases lacks the ability for customizations. I am really glad that I changed my device and I hope, we'll see some great ROMS, games and apps for the HD2.
I arrived on the Pocket PC scene with thge Xperia X1, I would say that this was my worst phone out of the 3 I've owned.
My second was the near perfect Touch Diamond 2, great.
My present one is the HD2, which despite the issues, I would not regret buying it as I believe and hope the issues will get addressed and sorted. Yep, the best phone I've ever had.
sunking101 said:
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
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My HD2 Doesn't have any of your problems, including the pinkish color in the center.
You can try Garmin XT instead of Copilot. Other then that, i think most of the problems can be fixed software wise, we just gotta wait for new roms to come out .
I want my click back!
[email protected] said:
I want my click back!
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Hahaha, that's the proper comment for this thread.
Anyone else having this issue? This is a straight up legit T-Mobile phone with stock ROM and WM6.5 upgrade. I've noticed that calls through the speaker are now distorted, blue tooth clarity remains fine though.
Hmmm...no one?
The Rotagilla said:
Anyone else having this issue? This is a straight up legit T-Mobile phone with stock ROM and WM6.5 upgrade. I've noticed that calls through the speaker are now distorted, blue tooth clarity remains fine though.
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Mine after the upgrade sounds fine
I've had the same issue the entire time I've had my Dash. Right out of the box I had distortion and a crackling in the speaker - i thought i might have had a bad connection on that particular phone call. After flashing - about a month agio, it's continued. As frustrating as TMobile makes me at times, I dont want to try to hash it out with them. I might reflash to see if that helps but I'[m afraid it wont
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I've had the same issue the entire time I've had my Dash. Right out of the box I had distortion and a crackling in the speaker - i thought i might have had a bad connection on that particular phone call. After flashing - about a month agio, it's continued. As frustrating as TMobile makes me at times, I dont want to try to hash it out with them. I might reflash to see if that helps but I'[m afraid it wont
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Could be hardware related, if the contacts are dirty or the speaker is not set properly it will crack.. could be a bad batch of devices.. get a new one under warranty if possible. I got three Dash 3G's the first day they came out and all three sound fine.
Finally couldn't take it anymore and took it back to the T-Mobile store. The new one should arrive this week.
Hi Rotagilla, would be interested to hear if the new one had the same loudspeaker distortion. mine does the same thing and has done from new. i just thought it was a crap quality speaker
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Hi Rotagilla, would be interested to hear if the new one had the same loudspeaker distortion. mine does the same thing and has done from new. i just thought it was a crap quality speaker
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The replacment phone just got sent back and I'm now on #3. The same issue happened again...calls started off very clear but then seemed to degrade to the point where unless I was using BT, the audio quality was terrible. I'm not upgrading the phone to WM6.5 at this time, I'm going to wait and see if the same thing happens again. BTW, the TMO rep I dealt wth most recently was excellent...really first class all the way.
Looks like the speaker will continue to be a last resort. BT seems the only way to get clear reception. thanks.....i dont like my chances with a replacement from Telstra. The only thing that disappoints me with this one is not being able to edit the menu items and not having the Voice Dialling tags. replacing it with the Voice Command is a quantum leap backward, otherwise a great phone.
Well the most recent replacement has started doing the same thing. I did not upgrade to WM6.5 and this one lasted the longest before giving in to the speaker distortion gremlin. Pretty bummed about this, guess I'll just have to live with it.
I know that this topic comes up again and again but wht has nothign been done about it? When I call SE they don't acknowledge that there is a problem - has nobody else contacted them about this?
My phone is not rooted - has anyone who has rooted their phone increased the volume? Is there a solution anywhere out there?!
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I know that this topic comes up again and again but wht has nothign been done about it? When I call SE they don't acknowledge that there is a problem - has nobody else contacted them about this?
My phone is not rooted - has anyone who has rooted their phone increased the volume? Is there a solution anywhere out there?!
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I was going just say WHAT???? I can't hear you! but that would just be mean
I'm up to 026 rooted and the volume seems the same to me. Only good news is that using a Bluetooth earpiece solves the problem ... now if only I could use the BT to voice dial.
the actual volume of the speaker is pretty decent, like when your in test mode you can hear a significant difference. I guess some idiot at SE decided to keep it low.
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I was going just say WHAT???? I can't hear you! but that would just be mean
I'm up to 026 rooted and the volume seems the same to me. Only good news is that using a Bluetooth earpiece solves the problem ... now if only I could use the BT to voice dial.
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I bought a BT earpiece so I can use while driving and it does make the volume much better....I cant get the BT to "activate" voice dialling on the phone - should it be able to? Have you manage that? The voice dialer standard app on phone is a joke I still therefore have to dial the person I want to call and once that is started then the BT takes over....have you managed anything better than that?
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the actual volume of the speaker is pretty decent, like when your in test mode you can hear a significant difference. I guess some idiot at SE decided to keep it low.
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Yes I know I have seen this....so why oh why oh why when SE must/should be aware of low volume havent they increased it instead of messing around with non-essential things like Creatouch/Timescape?
I just wish they would acknowledge the problem and let people know either they were going to fix it and if they cant fix it then i can get rid of the phone! Sp far they just seem to pretend it doesnt have a problem eg when calling customer services they say that nobody has reported any problems....
I have contacted se about this too. It is mt biggest stumbling block with this otherwise sound phone. Come on se FIX IT!
ear piece volume is for sure lot less than many phones I used. Much less than SE's own phones. I almost can't talk on it in noisy streets or I take out my bluetooth head set.
Unfortunately, I love the phone so much that I decided to adjust to several issues X10 has. When I first got the phone I had so many little issues with the phone that bothered be but over time I adapted myself to it
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I bought a BT earpiece so I can use while driving and it does make the volume much better....I cant get the BT to "activate" voice dialling on the phone - should it be able to? Have you manage that? The voice dialer standard app on phone is a joke I still therefore have to dial the person I want to call and once that is started then the BT takes over....have you managed anything better than that?
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Android 1.6 doesn't do BT voice dial.
It might sound kinda stupid but make sure that the ear speaker is direct to your ear, which means that your ear will be covered by half the phone and not all of it ( unlike my previous nokia phones) pretty stupid I know but I hope it helps.
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
rocketpaul said:
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Sort of depends on the conditions you use it under. If you're in a conference room it would work better than if you're in a shopping mall.
I've had mobile phones since 1988 (22 years of wireless) and I can tell you that the X10 has the worst in call volume I've ever experienced.
I imagine that somebody at SE must be aware of this.
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Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Count me in. But like I mentioned earlier I love the phone so much for it's style and so many other things that I decided to adapt to it. I use bluetooth in noisy places. I normally hate having bluetooth hang on my ear in public. So, I put it in my pocket and take it out when I get a call. Fortunately, there are not many calls I need to answer right away.
I too have this problem so I bought SE's MW600, well worth it but I hope they sort this problem soon.
My K800i had a fantasic earpiece sound quality and volume but my previous SE C905 was terrible and the X10i is worse still!
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yess , volume is very low when in-call
SE should do something
i;ve had p990 , p910 , p1 , and x10
and they all suffer from this problem
rocketpaul said:
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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+1...It's a bit quieter than most other phones I've had, but conversations are still fine.
The way everyone's talking about it, it seems like a huge deal. I've heard that (it was about the Evo 4G because many people complain about call quality on it too) when custom ROMs can be booted, the devs can increase in-call volume.
chris_knows;7454879 when custom ROMs can be booted said:
And we are all eager to see that day...
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johnaachen said:
Yes I know I have seen this....so why oh why oh why when SE must/should be aware of low volume havent they increased it instead of messing around with non-essential things like Creatouch/Timescape?
I just wish they would acknowledge the problem and let people know either they were going to fix it and if they cant fix it then i can get rid of the phone! Sp far they just seem to pretend it doesnt have a problem eg when calling customer services they say that nobody has reported any problems....
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maybe they said nobody has reported the problem because they couldn't hear the callers either. sorry, just couldn't resist that!
anyway, i do agree that this is the worst phone i've ever had in terms of caller volume. unless i'm in a quiet room, it's utterly useless. the only remedy i've found so far is to use the speaker phone, which is not a good solution at all!
while i do love the X10, if the issue still isn't resolved with the 2.1 upgrade, i may just go back to my old phone, because while the X10 is indeed quite smart, it sure as hell isn't much of a phone!
How can people honestly say this is not a problem?
We all have the in-call volume set to max and it's barely acceptable, set to half-way/normal which on many other devices would be sufficient and it's hardly audible unless you're in a library. Setting my Blackberry's in-call volume to max actually hurts my ears it's so loud! But ideally that's the kind of dynamic range in volume I'd like to see, no...hear SE implement.
If I had to guess, I would say that SE was having trouble finding a balance between finding an acceptable in call volume level and having a problem with echoing in calls. The louder the speaker is, the more susceptible it is to echo. There is no other reasonable explanation as to why its so low. Especially in a flagship phone. As a device, this phone is stellar, but as a phone, its pretty bad.
The last post basically echos my latest communique with SE. Their reply is below:
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your X10
Andriod 2.1 is due for release within Q3 of 2010, this may be subject to change however.
This should resolve the audio issues you have explained.
Kind Regards,
Stephanie Purvis
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
Looks like they know but are not too bothered about it! Certainly does not appear to be a priority............................