I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
It sounds like for what you desire, someone would have to write a program to do that. If there was a program that did that, I would be interested in trying it out.
basically you have to accept the fact that its JUST TOO BIG
to ever be used as a conventional phone.
After I took ONE call on mine , i went straight out and bought a headset and its much better than using any phone which i loathe to do anyway.
I dont think of my athena as a phone , its a mini laptop that can make phone calls, you have to accept that or get another phone
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
i understand your dilemma but the only other real solution i can think of is to use a wired headset, it has better outgoing sound quality and you don't need to charge it.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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If you are so desprate to use the athena this way, I think the safest and easiest way is to put adhesive tape over the speaker holes to muffle the sound, and then punch a few holes in one to your liking
You could Just superglue it to the side of your face
you really will have to face the fact that you may have to develop this programme yourself if you wish to use the ameo as a normal handset - i use the term loosely - the problem with it is that whilst the ameo is the coolest gadget going as a mini pc, it is the most embarrassing thing in the world to press against your face, and also leaves you open to a VERY easy snatch if you get it out in public. And yes people who look like bellends are more susceptible to street crime. That's a fact, i'm sure of it. I chose my ameo knowing of its failings and devised my own solution of using it for data purposes only with wifi or a bluetooth dialup connection to my phone, which in turn i use for making calls and texting. Other people use bluetooth headsets and seem to get along with them fine. Until a kaiser quality device with a vga screen comes out i am happy to accept the ameos inconveniences and love it for what it is.
evermore said:
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.....Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
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You might want to try PocketZenPhone, a software that does profiles for the phone. It is an on-going project and the developper handles requests which he incorporates into the soft. It might just be a case of developing another profile for you called "semi-mute" or something .
Or just stick with a BT headset, like the rest of us.
Thanks very much, Abram. Will check that out.
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
hdubli,
what do you mean when you say "reduce the in call volume to zero"? Do you just mean moving the slider all the way to the bottom? For me, that's still pretty loud. I can hear it easily well away from my ear. Or, do you mean something else? Thanks.
evermore said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
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well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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The originator of the 'bellend' jibe just happens to be the man who devised a working CID and SIM unlock solution for this device: he would have been somewhat ancapacitated if his laptop had been glued shut.
I think that the use of such informal and slightly crude words as "bellend" is acceptable given the incorrigable nature of the problem: the idea of pressing a mini pc up against your face is crude in itself.
Given that I used to believe I could make a flying machine out of a monopoly board, a leather jacket and a tricycle, perhaps the same naive 4 year old might have thought it possible to turn a handset large enough to eat a ploughman's lunch off into a pocketable handset. I've grown up a little since then, and I use the Ameo for what it does best, rather than trying to make it into something it isn't.
YES I remember BIG phones. I also remember BBC Microcomputers, Shellsuits and televisions with teak surrounds but fortunately I've seen fit to move on since then, and find them a little embarrassing now.
If members wish to inform other members of the fruitlessness of their ideas then I don't think this is a problem (particularly if these members [Olipro] have a track record and know EXACTLY what they are talking about): the solutions of course are obvious and oft-discussed: bluetooth headset; turn volume down and press against ear; or don't use it as a phone at all.
Maybe you can't have your cake AND eat it.
johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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Feel better now? ;-)
Olipro said:
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
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Yes, I would like to request a hack for the phone so I can make myself look foolish and like a big bellend (whatever that means) in public.
I don't think I can look either foolish or like a bellend...no matter what I do. I just got it like that. LOL ;-p
I may even start a new trend. he he he
Hi to all and hope you guys are having a great day! YEA BABY!!!
hdubli said:
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
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Quite frankly, this works with me, if I feel like holding the x7500 to my head. Of course, the call volume you hear depends on how good your hearing is, so YMMV. I find myself using a BT when I'm around others, either the LG Style-I or the Jawbone. (I'm eyeing the Jabra BT 8010 also). But the bottom line is you can use the x7500 as a handset this way if that's your preference.
Perfect solution!!!
Okay, get ready for this guys!
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution.
Hope this helps someone ;-)
http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
Ok, ok...all kidding aside, one of the coders may want to write something to make this possible. I would use it. I've been caught without my headset before and didn't want to answer the phone because there were people around me. This is a good backup solution and I would use it as that...a backup i ncase my headset battery went out (even though I have a spare headset) and in case I forgot my headset at home....GOD forbid!
ltxda said:
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution. http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
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I love it! My only suggstion is the guy in the picture needs to ditch his hat in favor of the tin foil model with the built-in antenna.
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on a I-mate jam it's possible to turn on speaker while calling so you can speak "handsfree".
This can be done by holding down the green call button.
When I do this the sounds of the speaker is de same as normal only the sounds comes from the back of the phone instead of the front.
Does anybody know how to fix this? A friend of mine has the same phone without a problem.
KoBolD said:
on a I-mate jam it's possible to turn on speaker while calling so you can speak "handsfree".
This can be done by holding down the green call button.
When I do this the sounds of the speaker is de same as normal only the sounds comes from the back of the phone instead of the front.
Does anybody know how to fix this? A friend of mine has the same phone without a problem.
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Have you tried while you are on the speakerphone mode to make the volume slider higher?
That ain't gonna help you. This is a known - and unsolved problem with the Jam. If you really need a speakerphone, you should return the phone. No amount of firmware/ROM update will help you.
I use the speakerphone option without any problems. The sound is loud and clear. What is this unresolved JAM problem that you're talking about?
Jam speakerphone volume problem
My XDA1 had the best speakerphone I've ever used, including corded phones. I could be in a conferance room with 10 people around the table and everyone could hear, speak and the participate on the phone never had problems with background noise. I have a hard time accepting that next generation technology from the same manufacturer should be woefully inadequate. The unit is advertised as a speakerphone, the solution is to return my phone and purchase another? No thanks friend, anyone reading this with solutions please respond.
I only have the phone for 1 month now so I´ll return it
tnx for the help
I think most of us don't know how to hold the mini in the right way, while the phone is in speaker mode...
if u want to hear a load voice.. make sure that back of the phone faces ur ear..
that' because the mini has 2 speakers... and the one in the back( near the mirror) is loader.. so you will hear the conversation very well...
and BTY.. I suggest u upgrade to the latest ROM available for ur device..
it helped me a lot....
cheers
duke911 said:
I think most of us don't know how to hold the mini in the right way, while the phone is in speaker mode...
if u want to hear a load voice.. make sure that back of the phone faces ur ear..
that' because the mini has 2 speakers... and the one in the back( near the mirror) is loader.. so you will hear the conversation very well...
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Wrong - its patently obvious that the sound is coming from from the back speaker. Why on earth it comes frm the back is another question entirely, given that the speaker phone is supposed to free up your hands so you do other things, including multi-task on the device i.e looking at the screen! Every other phone I've had has a decent speakerphone - and they face the front too.
But the main problem is that the volume from the supposed "speakerphone" is too damn low, irregardless of location.
Considering all the huge volumes of prior experience that HTC has (making practically every Microsoft PPC device, smartphones, plus the Palm Treo phone), things like this awful speakerphone on the magician are really not excusable at all.
I went through 3 TREO 600s due to speaker problems. You could barely hear the speaker phone on the 600 either. ANd to top that off, no one could hear you! The JAM is nice, but the more that I use it, the more I wish that either I bought something else or that the the JAM could just work the way it was designed!!!!!!
1.3 Mega pixel camera... my ass! It's the same quality as my first Casio digital camera from '96. Not mention the fact that Imate can't even put a decent ROM update together.
Perhaps we should build our own PPC's!
P.S. PM me if you want the CEO and VP of Imate's e-mail address. I e-mailed them and they actually wrote back! -Of course they weren't very helpful though. :evil:
One time, I turned on this speakermode operation on my MDA-Compact, I could hear my phonecall loud and clear from the built-in speaker.... This happenend accidently, probably by pressing just the right button, but I wasn't aware....
I cannot find how to do this again? How can I get the MDA-Compact to operate in speakermode using the built-in speaker?
I'm searching this (and other forums) quite a while now, but I cannot find my solution?!
Any help will be very much appreciated!
Thanks,
Igor.
One time, I turned on this speakermode operation on my MDA-Compact, I could hear my phonecall loud and clear from the built-in speaker.... This happenend accidently, probably by pressing just the right button, but I wasn't aware....
I cannot find how to do this again? How can I get the MDA-Compact to operate in speakermode using the built-in speaker?
I'm searching this (and other forums) quite a while now, but I cannot find my solution?!
Any help will be very much appreciated!
Thanks,
Igor.
Speakerphone..
To turn on the speakerphone part press the Green call button whilst in the call for 5 secs or so.....
I updated my Jam and now it's all ok
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Sure the build quality is nice.
Sure the internet browsing is fantastic.
Now the basic functions of the phone:
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
Unfortunately you are right, I am having the same issue. I don't care about the Camera.. I just need to perfrom the basic phone features.
Hopefully HTC is reading us.
We are still using the first Stock ROM which is obviously buggy and it is expected.
However, HTC should hurry up and come up with a new upgrade and Hotfix patches, else, I will seriously consider selling the device. I can't wait more than two other weeks.
only problem with mine is the camera...none of the other issues you say you have...
to bad
People said the same things with the blackstone and diamond, magic, atom, kaiser etc etc etc. Is this your first HTC? last phone a nokia? For every problem you stated there's a solution, reg tweaks, programs what ever. This is my 5th htc device, they all start out like crap but once their tweakt they are superior to any other phone. But once again out of the box it's no nokia.
Good luck and good hunting (for the tweaks)
Um... slight exageration... there a couple niggles so its the worst phone ever? I think its the best phone ever, with a few niggles.
I dont have a problem with my texts being delayed. It lags a little bit when there are loads of texts, but I just clear them out. (one niggle I would like fixing though)
The speaker volume for me is perfect, yes it is loud, but I just keep it turned down and its fine, but it also means if I need to I can turn it up! which is a much better than not being able to have it loud enough. (Fine the way it is)
Speakerphone is supposed to be loud?! again, set it to a low volume and its fine, and if you need it to be louder then you can turn it up. (Fine the way it is)
Dont care about the hard keys lighting up, took me maybe a day, if that to get used to where the buttons are, dont need them to light up (Fine the way it is)
CoPilot is rubbish, but thats nothing to do with the phone, use iGO its miles better.
Calender snooze option, I hadnt noticed, will have a look...
As to if you phone is faulty, I would say operator error
sunking101 said:
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Sure the build quality is nice.
Sure the internet browsing is fantastic.
Now the basic functions of the phone:
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
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Never had the sms problem
Huh on the phone volume?? Maybe im def or something becuase this seems perfect in my opinion.
Speakerphone... see volume comment above
I don't use copilot, i use tomtom, so no problem here. When i tried it out, it s worked perfectly for my route
Never tried the calendar snooze, but that isn't enough for me to agree with you.
SO i have to completely dsagree, best device ive owned by FAAAAR
loomx said:
As to if you phone is faulty, I would say operator error
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LOL, amen loom
sunking101 said:
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Sure the build quality is nice.
Sure the internet browsing is fantastic.
Now the basic functions of the phone:
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
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Put it down on the table and walk away, it's just a phone not a crisis point in your life.
Dogtag said:
People said the same things with the blackstone and diamond, magic, atom, kaiser etc etc etc. Is this your first HTC? last phone a nokia? For every problem you stated there's a solution, reg tweaks, programs what ever. This is my 5th htc device, they all start out like crap but once their tweakt they are superior to any other phone. But once again out of the box it's no nokia.
Good luck and good hunting (for the tweaks)
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basically this ^^^^
Hd2 = best phone / pda ever made
I am a heavy phone / PDA user ( around 7000 min per mounth phone and i have un unlimited data contract). My only problem is that HD2 was not here 10 years ago .
Sure is not perfect and bugs are there too but if u want a bug free phone buy a classic phone not a small computer. The OS and the HTC senses are very complex programs and there is no way hell to be ever bug free.
So all HTC phones are rubbish out of the box, I need to 'tweak' them in order to get them to work? I don't mind tweaking things but basic phone functions such as speakerphone, call volume and texting *should* work out of the box. All of you who claim your phone volume is fine must be deaf! There are several guys on this forum who complain about the in-call volume, speakerphone volume and distortion coming through the speakers....so this isn't a one-off faulty handset that I own.
Take the hands off that phone and walk away. It's better for both sides.
Disappointed people, sell the God damn thing
Sell it to me cheap then! I'll be happy to pass it on to someone who appreciates it more (and has more patience)
Ah ah ah ah
Why were you so hurry to buy such expensive phone ???
Weren't you able to wait some times to see if some issues raised
Your post is ... what´s the word you like to use ... ah yes ! your post is rubbish.
Sell you phone, you are not the kind of youngster that needs such a phone
Last week I sold my iPhone 3G 16Gb and two days ago I bought my first HTC device - the HD2. Yes, it has some bugs, yes, I reseted it several times, but overall the experience is great. From the problems, mentioned in the first post, I have only the last one, but the camera in my iPhone was nowhere near the HD2 one. So, I am very happy, it is a great phone with a great community. Someone complaint that you need to tweak the device before use it, but that is a positive thing, take the iPhone, which in most cases lacks the ability for customizations. I am really glad that I changed my device and I hope, we'll see some great ROMS, games and apps for the HD2.
I arrived on the Pocket PC scene with thge Xperia X1, I would say that this was my worst phone out of the 3 I've owned.
My second was the near perfect Touch Diamond 2, great.
My present one is the HD2, which despite the issues, I would not regret buying it as I believe and hope the issues will get addressed and sorted. Yep, the best phone I've ever had.
sunking101 said:
Sure it has a lovely screen.
Texts are delayed and, I kid you not, often go to a different person in your contacts list!!!
Phonecalls are terrible. The earpiece volume is SO loud it is deafening, you need to raise the volume and then lower it on every single call in order to get a low volume. This is an extremely tedious process.
Speakerphone is unusable in anything but a noisy environment. It is WAY too loud, even on the lowest setting. It also distorts like crazy.
Hard keys on bottom only light up *after* you have pressed them.
CoPilot Live is rubbish!!! Unusable. Takes you the wrong route time and time again.
Calendar snooze time is set at 5 mins and impossible to edit for longer.
The camera is actually very good, despite all this talk of it being poor and the pink colour in the centre. It's all the *basic* phone problems which make this the worst mobile phone I have ever used.
Is this just my handset? Have I got a faulty one????
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My HD2 Doesn't have any of your problems, including the pinkish color in the center.
You can try Garmin XT instead of Copilot. Other then that, i think most of the problems can be fixed software wise, we just gotta wait for new roms to come out .
I want my click back!
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I want my click back!
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Hahaha, that's the proper comment for this thread.
I know that this topic comes up again and again but wht has nothign been done about it? When I call SE they don't acknowledge that there is a problem - has nobody else contacted them about this?
My phone is not rooted - has anyone who has rooted their phone increased the volume? Is there a solution anywhere out there?!
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I know that this topic comes up again and again but wht has nothign been done about it? When I call SE they don't acknowledge that there is a problem - has nobody else contacted them about this?
My phone is not rooted - has anyone who has rooted their phone increased the volume? Is there a solution anywhere out there?!
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I was going just say WHAT???? I can't hear you! but that would just be mean
I'm up to 026 rooted and the volume seems the same to me. Only good news is that using a Bluetooth earpiece solves the problem ... now if only I could use the BT to voice dial.
the actual volume of the speaker is pretty decent, like when your in test mode you can hear a significant difference. I guess some idiot at SE decided to keep it low.
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I was going just say WHAT???? I can't hear you! but that would just be mean
I'm up to 026 rooted and the volume seems the same to me. Only good news is that using a Bluetooth earpiece solves the problem ... now if only I could use the BT to voice dial.
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I bought a BT earpiece so I can use while driving and it does make the volume much better....I cant get the BT to "activate" voice dialling on the phone - should it be able to? Have you manage that? The voice dialer standard app on phone is a joke I still therefore have to dial the person I want to call and once that is started then the BT takes over....have you managed anything better than that?
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the actual volume of the speaker is pretty decent, like when your in test mode you can hear a significant difference. I guess some idiot at SE decided to keep it low.
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Yes I know I have seen this....so why oh why oh why when SE must/should be aware of low volume havent they increased it instead of messing around with non-essential things like Creatouch/Timescape?
I just wish they would acknowledge the problem and let people know either they were going to fix it and if they cant fix it then i can get rid of the phone! Sp far they just seem to pretend it doesnt have a problem eg when calling customer services they say that nobody has reported any problems....
I have contacted se about this too. It is mt biggest stumbling block with this otherwise sound phone. Come on se FIX IT!
ear piece volume is for sure lot less than many phones I used. Much less than SE's own phones. I almost can't talk on it in noisy streets or I take out my bluetooth head set.
Unfortunately, I love the phone so much that I decided to adjust to several issues X10 has. When I first got the phone I had so many little issues with the phone that bothered be but over time I adapted myself to it
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I bought a BT earpiece so I can use while driving and it does make the volume much better....I cant get the BT to "activate" voice dialling on the phone - should it be able to? Have you manage that? The voice dialer standard app on phone is a joke I still therefore have to dial the person I want to call and once that is started then the BT takes over....have you managed anything better than that?
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Android 1.6 doesn't do BT voice dial.
It might sound kinda stupid but make sure that the ear speaker is direct to your ear, which means that your ear will be covered by half the phone and not all of it ( unlike my previous nokia phones) pretty stupid I know but I hope it helps.
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Sort of depends on the conditions you use it under. If you're in a conference room it would work better than if you're in a shopping mall.
I've had mobile phones since 1988 (22 years of wireless) and I can tell you that the X10 has the worst in call volume I've ever experienced.
I imagine that somebody at SE must be aware of this.
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Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Count me in. But like I mentioned earlier I love the phone so much for it's style and so many other things that I decided to adapt to it. I use bluetooth in noisy places. I normally hate having bluetooth hang on my ear in public. So, I put it in my pocket and take it out when I get a call. Fortunately, there are not many calls I need to answer right away.
I too have this problem so I bought SE's MW600, well worth it but I hope they sort this problem soon.
My K800i had a fantasic earpiece sound quality and volume but my previous SE C905 was terrible and the X10i is worse still!
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yess , volume is very low when in-call
SE should do something
i;ve had p990 , p910 , p1 , and x10
and they all suffer from this problem
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+1...It's a bit quieter than most other phones I've had, but conversations are still fine.
The way everyone's talking about it, it seems like a huge deal. I've heard that (it was about the Evo 4G because many people complain about call quality on it too) when custom ROMs can be booted, the devs can increase in-call volume.
chris_knows;7454879 when custom ROMs can be booted said:
And we are all eager to see that day...
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Yes I know I have seen this....so why oh why oh why when SE must/should be aware of low volume havent they increased it instead of messing around with non-essential things like Creatouch/Timescape?
I just wish they would acknowledge the problem and let people know either they were going to fix it and if they cant fix it then i can get rid of the phone! Sp far they just seem to pretend it doesnt have a problem eg when calling customer services they say that nobody has reported any problems....
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maybe they said nobody has reported the problem because they couldn't hear the callers either. sorry, just couldn't resist that!
anyway, i do agree that this is the worst phone i've ever had in terms of caller volume. unless i'm in a quiet room, it's utterly useless. the only remedy i've found so far is to use the speaker phone, which is not a good solution at all!
while i do love the X10, if the issue still isn't resolved with the 2.1 upgrade, i may just go back to my old phone, because while the X10 is indeed quite smart, it sure as hell isn't much of a phone!
How can people honestly say this is not a problem?
We all have the in-call volume set to max and it's barely acceptable, set to half-way/normal which on many other devices would be sufficient and it's hardly audible unless you're in a library. Setting my Blackberry's in-call volume to max actually hurts my ears it's so loud! But ideally that's the kind of dynamic range in volume I'd like to see, no...hear SE implement.
If I had to guess, I would say that SE was having trouble finding a balance between finding an acceptable in call volume level and having a problem with echoing in calls. The louder the speaker is, the more susceptible it is to echo. There is no other reasonable explanation as to why its so low. Especially in a flagship phone. As a device, this phone is stellar, but as a phone, its pretty bad.
The last post basically echos my latest communique with SE. Their reply is below:
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your X10
Andriod 2.1 is due for release within Q3 of 2010, this may be subject to change however.
This should resolve the audio issues you have explained.
Kind Regards,
Stephanie Purvis
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
Looks like they know but are not too bothered about it! Certainly does not appear to be a priority............................
Every single time I talk on the phone, my gf (she's the only one I call, everyone else I just text, including my parents) say she can barely hear me if I don't have the phone oriented just perfectly. If I move it like a 1/2 inch further away from my mouth, she says something almost immediately. Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Is there a way to boost the sensitivity, or the mic volume, or something like that? A workaround would be to get a bluetooth earpiece, but I dunno if I want to get one just to use it for like a half hour a day, if that.
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Every single time I talk on the phone, my gf (she's the only one I call, everyone else I just text, including my parents) say she can barely hear me if I don't have the phone oriented just perfectly. If I move it like a 1/2 inch further away from my mouth, she says something almost immediately. Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Is there a way to boost the sensitivity, or the mic volume, or something like that? A workaround would be to get a bluetooth earpiece, but I dunno if I want to get one just to use it for like a half hour a day, if that.
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Options:
1) Talk Louder.
2) Get married to her. Then you won't want to talk to her at all
Sorry. I don't have anything constructive to say ... just being a smart-ass.
Lol... Yeah, if anyone that knows me read #1 they would laugh, apparently I already talk too loud.
I've gotten this problem as well. One peculiar thing I've noticed is that the phone uses the microphones you wouldn't think it'd use while you talk.
In normal phone conversations, my Droid X uses the microphone on the back - the one next to the speaker. I used to hold the phone in such a way that it'd cover that bit; after I gave the phone a bit of space between it and my hand, my voice has gone through much better.
Similarly, when on speakerphone my Droid X uses the mic that's on top of the phone next to the headphone jack. So instead of leaving my phone right side up on the table, i turn it around so the top faces me. Much better results.
I wonder if there's a way to select which mic to use in what mode. Or perhaps an app to select the microphones is in order?
Wait...people use this to talk on?!
But yeah...when I do nobody has any problems hearing me. Granted, I put them on speaker 90% of the time.
I did a quick google search and saw that someone mentioned this in the comments on another forum. Maybe a common issue?
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/209406
Ugh...posted twice...sorry :-(
There is the chance to put (or try at least) an improvement in sound mic? Sometimes people said to me that they are listening me bad, others too down... Anyways, I'm using 2g connection only (in order to improve sound quality), even so, if I speak "with my normal voice" almost all people have a bit difficult to ear me!
I saw "hwVolumeFactor.cfg" , but there's no line to mic volume....
At least 2 other people have the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1157111
I have the same problem too. Tried to find some volume file. Solutions?
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I tried to find the file AudioPara, AudioFilter et similia,but i haven´t found anything in u8800 rom....
FabryXY
I have the same prob too.I have to speak loud to hear me
The hwvolumnfactor certainly cannot modify the internal mic and earpiece levels. It's to be done at the application framework stack or even the core library stack.
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any chance of those people with problems have a defective unit?
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any chance of those people with problems have a defective unit?
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I wouldn't say it's a defective unit, because that would mean more than 30% of the whole sold units of U8800 were defective and a company big as Huawei wouldn't do it. Would only create mass amount of angry people and paybacks. So I am guessing some setting is bad.
Hi
I not think that this unit are defective.
For me the microphone position isn´t ideal, so is necessary boost the mic volume,
expecially for people with deep voice.
I hope that in future this become possible.
FabryXY
fabryxy said:
Hi
I not think that this unit are defective.
For me the microphone position isn´t ideal, so is necessary boost the mic volume,
expecially for people with deep voice.
I hope that in future this become possible.
FabryXY
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I Think this is the problem, i have a deep voice too... although using 2g only helps a lot, there's no a excellent quality and every time I reboot the phone i have to configure 2g again!
I've posted this problem before, in another post. Just posting here too, simply to join the club. Same mic issue for me. Others cannot hear me well while I can here them crystal clear.
P.S. I replaced my first X5 device within 4 days from purchasing it and apparently the problem exists in my current (2nd) device too. I didn't replace the 2nd one because the mic issue appeared after "root". That's weird...
P.S. 2 I really love this phone. It's a high end device in an extremely affordable price and I DO NOT WANT to replace the specific model whatsoever. However, this has been a very frustrating thing and still no one has come up with a solution!
same problem here. have to speak really loud to be understood... hopefully someone is able to fix it. otherwise a great phone!
I also have the low mic volume problem. It's very frustrating. Not everyone seems to be complaining it seems so I'm wondering if it's possible that there was a bad batch of these phones?
Can anyone confirm that their mic levels are normal - i.e. the person you are calling can normally hear you loud and clear? That would be useful to know.
The mic itself should not be problem.
Since I have bad reception in home, I generally prefer talking to people with viber, skype and such. I do not have any mic. issues with such programs.
However people really have hard times to hear me if I am talking on GSM -or make me have hard times because of shouting-
Good tip, hopefully maybe some dev could look into it, with the idea to solve this problem... In small forums that i use, other peoples complain too about this strange behavior. I think the problem are related to the secondary mic that are erasing outside sounds, but it is very responsive and maybe it erases more than the outside sounds, it erases a little of our voice... The normal think is people telling me something like that: "Are you talking from the bottom?" or "Are you talking from the Chilean Mine?" xD
I agree. Once I changed the value of hw.secondary_mic=0 to hw.secondary_mic=1 in /system/build.prop. I noticed that people on the phone could hardly hear me and I heard weird noise from the earpiece. Then I switch the value back to 0, it works fine now.
You guys may need to check this value in your phone's current setting.
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I agree. Once I changed the value of hw.secondary_mic=0 to hw.secondary_mic=1 in /system/build.prop. I noticed that people on the phone could hardly hear me and I heard weird noise from the earpiece. Then I switch the value back to 0, it works fine now.
You guys may need to check this value in your phone's current setting.
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Mine was at 0 already. Changed the values to 1,2 just in case, but the problem remains. Changed back to 0 again.
Same here I was thinking about trying the hw_secondary_mic thing, but you say it's to no avail... It's a very nice phone, but what's the use if people can't hear me. I've sent a message to Huawei and I'll call local warranty service if this problem is salvageable for this line of phones. If not, the return path is the way ...
Hello,
as I mentioned in another Thread I have the same problems you have. There have to be some settings wrong in the comparison of the signals of the two microphones.
Also I played with "hw.secondary_mic=X" and it didn't help me. I tried 0 and 1. It changed, but 1 was worse than 0, without changing something else.
Maybe one of the more experienced Dev's can have a look at this problem, at least where we can find the source for comparison or the adequate settings. Thanks in advance
But for now I have a working workaround
I use the void#draco rom with the kernel from #eridanus (should also work with other roms)
In "system\build.prop" are the settings
hw.secondary_mic=1
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ro.config.hw_optb=
hw.secondary_mic=1
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ro.config.dualmic=true
important. Maybe someone can explain me what the second and third entry exactly do?
And now comes the trick. You have to cover your secondary mic on the back (next to the 5.0 Megapixels print). Either with your finger (cumbersome) or with 2 layers of adhesive tape or something like that.
I've tested this yesterday evening and it worked quite fine for me. Those were my best gsm-calls (exept those with the cable-headset).
Maybe it also works with other settings in build.prob, those above worked good for me and I didn' test all the 16 combinations (3 settings + dumb microphone).
So, please try it and share your experience
Edit: Just tried it with latest oxygen. Stock experience was as annoying as with stock void, but after changing values to those above (you have to write the last two of them by your own) and making the microphone dumb the call quality got much better. Try it for yourself
I thought about covering the secondary mic too, but it's a bit non-classy Hmm. From instincts, setting ro.config.dualmic=false should disable the secondary. Have you tried it? I'm gonna try it when I have the time...
Also I feel that there should be some settings regarding those microphones but, I'm not sure if they can be easily found without spending some time with the OS code. Having heard that Huawei has released the code as open source (?) I hope they have comments there
I tried ro.config.dualmic=0 a few minutes ago, and with the uncovered microphone i was hardly understood. With the covered microphone everything was good.
Seems that the phone is unimpressed by this setting...or it is because I use Oxygen at the moment. There wasn't such a setting in build.prop, I wrote it there by myself.
Now I tried hw.secondary_mic=0 without the other settings (commented out)
and with an uncovered mic you are hardly to hear as like as the other settings and with the covered mic it's acceptable. But I think it's a bit worse than the settings I mentioned above with everything enabled.
Somehow the phone doesn't react on these settings as we want it to do.
So I will set the three values to 1 and use my tiny piece of adhesive tape until a better solution is available. As I said this is a workaround, not a fix.