There is the chance to put (or try at least) an improvement in sound mic? Sometimes people said to me that they are listening me bad, others too down... Anyways, I'm using 2g connection only (in order to improve sound quality), even so, if I speak "with my normal voice" almost all people have a bit difficult to ear me!
I saw "hwVolumeFactor.cfg" , but there's no line to mic volume....
At least 2 other people have the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1157111
I have the same problem too. Tried to find some volume file. Solutions?
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+1.
I tried to find the file AudioPara, AudioFilter et similia,but i haven´t found anything in u8800 rom....
FabryXY
I have the same prob too.I have to speak loud to hear me
The hwvolumnfactor certainly cannot modify the internal mic and earpiece levels. It's to be done at the application framework stack or even the core library stack.
Sent from my IDEOS X5
any chance of those people with problems have a defective unit?
skinniezinho said:
any chance of those people with problems have a defective unit?
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I wouldn't say it's a defective unit, because that would mean more than 30% of the whole sold units of U8800 were defective and a company big as Huawei wouldn't do it. Would only create mass amount of angry people and paybacks. So I am guessing some setting is bad.
Hi
I not think that this unit are defective.
For me the microphone position isn´t ideal, so is necessary boost the mic volume,
expecially for people with deep voice.
I hope that in future this become possible.
FabryXY
fabryxy said:
Hi
I not think that this unit are defective.
For me the microphone position isn´t ideal, so is necessary boost the mic volume,
expecially for people with deep voice.
I hope that in future this become possible.
FabryXY
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I Think this is the problem, i have a deep voice too... although using 2g only helps a lot, there's no a excellent quality and every time I reboot the phone i have to configure 2g again!
I've posted this problem before, in another post. Just posting here too, simply to join the club. Same mic issue for me. Others cannot hear me well while I can here them crystal clear.
P.S. I replaced my first X5 device within 4 days from purchasing it and apparently the problem exists in my current (2nd) device too. I didn't replace the 2nd one because the mic issue appeared after "root". That's weird...
P.S. 2 I really love this phone. It's a high end device in an extremely affordable price and I DO NOT WANT to replace the specific model whatsoever. However, this has been a very frustrating thing and still no one has come up with a solution!
same problem here. have to speak really loud to be understood... hopefully someone is able to fix it. otherwise a great phone!
I also have the low mic volume problem. It's very frustrating. Not everyone seems to be complaining it seems so I'm wondering if it's possible that there was a bad batch of these phones?
Can anyone confirm that their mic levels are normal - i.e. the person you are calling can normally hear you loud and clear? That would be useful to know.
The mic itself should not be problem.
Since I have bad reception in home, I generally prefer talking to people with viber, skype and such. I do not have any mic. issues with such programs.
However people really have hard times to hear me if I am talking on GSM -or make me have hard times because of shouting-
Good tip, hopefully maybe some dev could look into it, with the idea to solve this problem... In small forums that i use, other peoples complain too about this strange behavior. I think the problem are related to the secondary mic that are erasing outside sounds, but it is very responsive and maybe it erases more than the outside sounds, it erases a little of our voice... The normal think is people telling me something like that: "Are you talking from the bottom?" or "Are you talking from the Chilean Mine?" xD
I agree. Once I changed the value of hw.secondary_mic=0 to hw.secondary_mic=1 in /system/build.prop. I noticed that people on the phone could hardly hear me and I heard weird noise from the earpiece. Then I switch the value back to 0, it works fine now.
You guys may need to check this value in your phone's current setting.
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I agree. Once I changed the value of hw.secondary_mic=0 to hw.secondary_mic=1 in /system/build.prop. I noticed that people on the phone could hardly hear me and I heard weird noise from the earpiece. Then I switch the value back to 0, it works fine now.
You guys may need to check this value in your phone's current setting.
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Mine was at 0 already. Changed the values to 1,2 just in case, but the problem remains. Changed back to 0 again.
Same here I was thinking about trying the hw_secondary_mic thing, but you say it's to no avail... It's a very nice phone, but what's the use if people can't hear me. I've sent a message to Huawei and I'll call local warranty service if this problem is salvageable for this line of phones. If not, the return path is the way ...
Hello,
as I mentioned in another Thread I have the same problems you have. There have to be some settings wrong in the comparison of the signals of the two microphones.
Also I played with "hw.secondary_mic=X" and it didn't help me. I tried 0 and 1. It changed, but 1 was worse than 0, without changing something else.
Maybe one of the more experienced Dev's can have a look at this problem, at least where we can find the source for comparison or the adequate settings. Thanks in advance
But for now I have a working workaround
I use the void#draco rom with the kernel from #eridanus (should also work with other roms)
In "system\build.prop" are the settings
hw.secondary_mic=1
...
ro.config.hw_optb=
hw.secondary_mic=1
...
ro.config.dualmic=true
important. Maybe someone can explain me what the second and third entry exactly do?
And now comes the trick. You have to cover your secondary mic on the back (next to the 5.0 Megapixels print). Either with your finger (cumbersome) or with 2 layers of adhesive tape or something like that.
I've tested this yesterday evening and it worked quite fine for me. Those were my best gsm-calls (exept those with the cable-headset).
Maybe it also works with other settings in build.prob, those above worked good for me and I didn' test all the 16 combinations (3 settings + dumb microphone).
So, please try it and share your experience
Edit: Just tried it with latest oxygen. Stock experience was as annoying as with stock void, but after changing values to those above (you have to write the last two of them by your own) and making the microphone dumb the call quality got much better. Try it for yourself
I thought about covering the secondary mic too, but it's a bit non-classy Hmm. From instincts, setting ro.config.dualmic=false should disable the secondary. Have you tried it? I'm gonna try it when I have the time...
Also I feel that there should be some settings regarding those microphones but, I'm not sure if they can be easily found without spending some time with the OS code. Having heard that Huawei has released the code as open source (?) I hope they have comments there
I tried ro.config.dualmic=0 a few minutes ago, and with the uncovered microphone i was hardly understood. With the covered microphone everything was good.
Seems that the phone is unimpressed by this setting...or it is because I use Oxygen at the moment. There wasn't such a setting in build.prop, I wrote it there by myself.
Now I tried hw.secondary_mic=0 without the other settings (commented out)
and with an uncovered mic you are hardly to hear as like as the other settings and with the covered mic it's acceptable. But I think it's a bit worse than the settings I mentioned above with everything enabled.
Somehow the phone doesn't react on these settings as we want it to do.
So I will set the three values to 1 and use my tiny piece of adhesive tape until a better solution is available. As I said this is a workaround, not a fix.
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Hey all, im glad this site is up its been great finding what i can really do with my wizard!
here is he issue im having. the wizard has 3 different speakers and 1 microphone. 2 side speakers (used to play music, or speaker phone) and the 1 main speaker (used for hearing calls). none of the 3 work when im making calls, listening to music, alarms, or any of the "screen click" sounds and the microphone doesnt work on phone calls or note recordings. however, the one time the speakers do work is when i have an incoming call, i tried listening to see which speaker its coming out of and it sounds like all 3. the headphone jack still works so thats what ive been using. pressing the speaker phone button while on a call (that i cant hear) doesnt do anything, the UI doesnt show any change or switch to indicate its changed to speaker phone and the "speaker on" button doesnt change to "speaker off" like it used to.
originally i thought this was a ROM issue, i was using the manufacturer's ROM (cingular 8125, unlocked for tmobile service) so i followed the lovely tutorial and switched my phone over to the t-mobile 2.26 ROM. this had no effect, so I then upgraded to XDA's WM6 ROM and while i love this new ROM it still did not fix my sound issue.
im stumped, any help anyone can offer would be great. I wanted to post here before i crack it open to look at all the insides.
same problem!
I'm having the exact same problem! I just noticed the problem recently, when my phones alarm didn't sound. I'm running a custom cooked rom from mattk_r 318 kitchen, but I don't think the rom is the problem, as i am indeed still hearing sound from the head phone jack. I don't think the internal speakers are broken, as when a call comes, the phone rings, and the sound come out from the speaks as mentioned above!
Help!
dropped?
have you ever dropped your phone?
I have dropped mine a couple times and thats the only cause I can come up with. But this never seemed to be a problem until recently.
no major drop recently.
i havent really dropped it recently at all.and for some reason i dont think the hardware is the problem,because i tryed voice recorder,and it records my voice and i can play it
back through the headset.so that confirms that the mic and both spealers work (rings
when incoming call). i really dont want this to be the downfall for my wizard! is there
any key registry entrys for sound maybe that we could have a look at? btw my wizards a G4 if thats makes any difference.
please help!!
mine is a g3, if it were a software issue then reflashing should have solved it. right? i dont know enough about the internal workings of the wizard to know what a flash actually does.
?
Anyone have any ideas on what I can try?
Well, a flash is an OS upgrade/downgrade. It contains drivers, programs, registry settings, things of that sort. Sounds like your problem is hardware related, nothing to do with the OS itself.
I assume the warranty on that baby has already expired, so you're pretty much on your own.
Two options come to mind:
1. The obvious... buy another Wizard
2. The not so obvious... buy another Wizard with a broken screen and take all of its guts out and put them in yours.
A third option also exists... (ther's always a third way)
Mind you, this is for INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY! In no way do I condone the below mentioned method.
Get a new line of service with Cingular and buy the Wizard to use with it. Exchange their boards, swap the IMEIs using the Wizard Service Tool utility found on these boards, cancel the line of service and return the "new" Wizard.
Sound issues
I have had a similar problem but located my problem to the microswitch which is in the headphone socket. Might be worth trying pulling the headphones in and out a few times to see if it allows the microswitch to release (if that is the problem?)
Steve
The wizard is magic
Some how my wizard seemed to repair it self. Its sound is working again...i didn't reflash or do anything special....weird. I think its because the phone had a good vibrate....ive got one of those speaker docks for the wizard..i put it in there...got a phone call and talked and stuff...but while it was in there (with the mic plugged it) it vibrated alot...maybe that flicked the switch mentioned above?
weird..this phone never ceases to amaze me. I just hope it doesn't happen again... because it appears to be emerging as a problem as the wizards get older?
Keep up the good work guys!
LOL!!!!!!!!! its so simple and yet so amazingly smart
wow, Steve you are the most amazing person EVER!
I put the headphone piece in about 1/10 of the way and slowly made a swirling action as i slid it all the way in, clicked the start button on wizard and i heard the "click" for the first time in a month!
Thanks!
I tried different options to get my sound back, no luck so far
Problem started after using the headset-connector to connect it to an FM-Transmitter.
After reading this thread, my guess is that the "micro-switch" is in a wrong position. So I opend my MDA, but can't find any "switch" in that connector.
Is there some more info about that connector, a connection-diagram perhaps ?
what worked for me was inserting the headset jack in roughly, robbing each side of the headset jack to try to hit the "switch". that might work for you.
Yes!!! Thank you a lot!
I have the same problem, no sound in my speakers, just vibrate and sound in handsfree. I figure out that this micro-switch could be the problem, but I haven't know how to solve it. Thank you once again, I love my SPV!! and this community.
Fixed!
Woohoo!
This problem just cropped up for me on the weekend.
Thankfully it wasn't long before I happened across this thread.
About a minute of persistent jiggling the microphone jack did the trick.
Thanks!
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
It sounds like for what you desire, someone would have to write a program to do that. If there was a program that did that, I would be interested in trying it out.
basically you have to accept the fact that its JUST TOO BIG
to ever be used as a conventional phone.
After I took ONE call on mine , i went straight out and bought a headset and its much better than using any phone which i loathe to do anyway.
I dont think of my athena as a phone , its a mini laptop that can make phone calls, you have to accept that or get another phone
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
i understand your dilemma but the only other real solution i can think of is to use a wired headset, it has better outgoing sound quality and you don't need to charge it.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
evermore said:
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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If you are so desprate to use the athena this way, I think the safest and easiest way is to put adhesive tape over the speaker holes to muffle the sound, and then punch a few holes in one to your liking
You could Just superglue it to the side of your face
you really will have to face the fact that you may have to develop this programme yourself if you wish to use the ameo as a normal handset - i use the term loosely - the problem with it is that whilst the ameo is the coolest gadget going as a mini pc, it is the most embarrassing thing in the world to press against your face, and also leaves you open to a VERY easy snatch if you get it out in public. And yes people who look like bellends are more susceptible to street crime. That's a fact, i'm sure of it. I chose my ameo knowing of its failings and devised my own solution of using it for data purposes only with wifi or a bluetooth dialup connection to my phone, which in turn i use for making calls and texting. Other people use bluetooth headsets and seem to get along with them fine. Until a kaiser quality device with a vga screen comes out i am happy to accept the ameos inconveniences and love it for what it is.
evermore said:
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.....Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
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You might want to try PocketZenPhone, a software that does profiles for the phone. It is an on-going project and the developper handles requests which he incorporates into the soft. It might just be a case of developing another profile for you called "semi-mute" or something .
Or just stick with a BT headset, like the rest of us.
Thanks very much, Abram. Will check that out.
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
hdubli,
what do you mean when you say "reduce the in call volume to zero"? Do you just mean moving the slider all the way to the bottom? For me, that's still pretty loud. I can hear it easily well away from my ear. Or, do you mean something else? Thanks.
evermore said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
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well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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The originator of the 'bellend' jibe just happens to be the man who devised a working CID and SIM unlock solution for this device: he would have been somewhat ancapacitated if his laptop had been glued shut.
I think that the use of such informal and slightly crude words as "bellend" is acceptable given the incorrigable nature of the problem: the idea of pressing a mini pc up against your face is crude in itself.
Given that I used to believe I could make a flying machine out of a monopoly board, a leather jacket and a tricycle, perhaps the same naive 4 year old might have thought it possible to turn a handset large enough to eat a ploughman's lunch off into a pocketable handset. I've grown up a little since then, and I use the Ameo for what it does best, rather than trying to make it into something it isn't.
YES I remember BIG phones. I also remember BBC Microcomputers, Shellsuits and televisions with teak surrounds but fortunately I've seen fit to move on since then, and find them a little embarrassing now.
If members wish to inform other members of the fruitlessness of their ideas then I don't think this is a problem (particularly if these members [Olipro] have a track record and know EXACTLY what they are talking about): the solutions of course are obvious and oft-discussed: bluetooth headset; turn volume down and press against ear; or don't use it as a phone at all.
Maybe you can't have your cake AND eat it.
johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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Feel better now? ;-)
Olipro said:
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
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Yes, I would like to request a hack for the phone so I can make myself look foolish and like a big bellend (whatever that means) in public.
I don't think I can look either foolish or like a bellend...no matter what I do. I just got it like that. LOL ;-p
I may even start a new trend. he he he
Hi to all and hope you guys are having a great day! YEA BABY!!!
hdubli said:
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
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Quite frankly, this works with me, if I feel like holding the x7500 to my head. Of course, the call volume you hear depends on how good your hearing is, so YMMV. I find myself using a BT when I'm around others, either the LG Style-I or the Jawbone. (I'm eyeing the Jabra BT 8010 also). But the bottom line is you can use the x7500 as a handset this way if that's your preference.
Perfect solution!!!
Okay, get ready for this guys!
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution.
Hope this helps someone ;-)
http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
Ok, ok...all kidding aside, one of the coders may want to write something to make this possible. I would use it. I've been caught without my headset before and didn't want to answer the phone because there were people around me. This is a good backup solution and I would use it as that...a backup i ncase my headset battery went out (even though I have a spare headset) and in case I forgot my headset at home....GOD forbid!
ltxda said:
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution. http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
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I love it! My only suggstion is the guy in the picture needs to ditch his hat in favor of the tin foil model with the built-in antenna.
First 1,gps needs around 10 mins in clear sky to lock my position , with gps fix(from the market) it takes 5-20 seconds.
Second and most important,all the people that i talk with cant hear my voice clear,i hear them clear tho,there is a really low pitch sound in the background when noone talking even on the road with full bars,i tryed 2g and 3g networks, i even tryed calling my phone from someone else phone and i couldnt hear his voice clear,when i used the headphones my callers heard my voice crystal clear.
I am thinking of taking my phone for replacement in the next 3 houers so i really apriceate any fast feedback especially for the second problem.
GPS fix is usually very quick on my X5 with data connection on, usually under 30 sec.
I've had one or two instances where a geocaching app wouldn't get a fix in 5 or 10 min. A reboot solved that every time.
As for the sound problem: sounds like your microphone is defect. No such problem on my phone...
1. You need to enable gps xtra for faster lock, in the same menu where you enable gps.
2. Some say that B160 rom creatly improves call quality, id try that from. Look from the dev section.
so gps is normal but microphone defective?
anyway,i got it back at the shop for a replacement i ll have a new in 4-5 days ,but im a bit woried if it will be defective again as there are some known problems like gps,wifi,light bleeding,burned pixels,flash player random reboots and i think i ve got 60-70% chance of geting a working one
I have a similar problem...
When people call me they tell me that my voice is very low. This changes when i hold the phone in front of my face, then it becomes better. But it is only good when I switch to the loudspeaker mode. Then you hear my voice clearly. Is it possible that this phone has a certain voice activation level and that this is set too critical?
And if it is so, can I set this threshold value anywhere?
edit: And can I edit the volume of the microphone itself too?
I find that if I have the phone tucked between my ear and shoulder (like you do when you are using both hands for something but still want to talk on the phone), noone can hear me at all.
But if using it "normally" (ie: by holding it to my ear with my hand) it works fine.
Does this device have a noise cancelling mic that is affecting things when the entire back panel is covered or something?
i have the same mic problem... i sent it for replacement...
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i have the same mic problem... i sent it for replacement...
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My replacement came yesterday and mic is ok
True about GPS, just need to enable the option sanpsa said.
Mic, never had a problem so far.. touch wood.
Notwithstanding the fact that flipmodegr's microphone was obviously faulty, something to consider when others say they're having difficulty hearing you is the noise-cancellation microphone.
I suspect that those who're having problems might be covering or scraping the second microphone hole, or have a cover of some sort over it.
I haven't encountered the problem at all, but I'd be interested in knowing if those of you who have (outbound) audio problems are using any sort of cover on the 'phone while you're actually using it.
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Notwithstanding the fact that flipmodegr's microphone was obviously faulty, something to consider when others say they're having difficulty hearing you is the noise-cancellation microphone.
I suspect that those who're having problems might be covering or scraping the second microphone hole, or have a cover of some sort over it.
I haven't encountered the problem at all, but I'd be interested in knowing if those of you who have (outbound) audio problems are using any sort of cover on the 'phone while you're actually using it.
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I'm pretty sure it's not a noise cancelling mic. It's just a directional mic for use when recording video.
Cephalus said:
Notwithstanding the fact that flipmodegr's microphone was obviously faulty, something to consider when others say they're having difficulty hearing you is the noise-cancellation microphone.
I suspect that those who're having problems might be covering or scraping the second microphone hole, or have a cover of some sort over it.
I haven't encountered the problem at all, but I'd be interested in knowing if those of you who have (outbound) audio problems are using any sort of cover on the 'phone while you're actually using it.
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well,i never covered the hole of the second mic i have even tryed touched the phone from the side with 2 fingers in each side,tryed every holding position and i was also carefoul to dont touch any holes or the main body of the device,also no phone case was used
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I'm pretty sure it's not a noise cancelling mic. It's just a directional mic for use when recording video.
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Google search mentions a noise cancellation microphone exists.
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sanpsa said:
1. You need to enable gps xtra for faster lock, in the same menu where you enable gps.
2. Some say that B160 rom creatly improves call quality, id try that from. Look from the dev section.
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I unfortunately don't have the option for xtra GPS - I only see Use GPS Satellites, and beneath that is GPS Source (which gives me only one option - Use internal GPS)
I am on Gingerbread - CyanogenMod 7.2.0.
Can you or someone else suggest a way to get around this problem? I am trying geocaching and the lack of GPS fix is really frustrating!
for me the GPS fast fix was only solved with replacing the gps.conf file, with this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=905377&d=1329444560
tempius said:
for me the GPS fast fix was only solved with replacing the gps.conf file, with this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=905377&d=1329444560
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Excuse my ignorance but where do I need to change this? Or can you direct me to the right thread with the instructions?
So, it seems I have finally found out how to adjust the microphone volume on the phone.
I have posted the instructions on my blog. If you try the solution it please respond if it works or not.
This might be veey interesting. I changed 88 to 100 but will only be able to talk to someone tomorrow.
From personal experience both sgs ans sgs2 have low treble input sent to peer. Ots annoying.
Posted from Galaxy S II
tried, we will see...
Interesting, there's an option for speaker receive volume too...
I tried it but it didn't work on audio recording (Hi-Q MP3 Recorder).
There is some way to adjust mic volume of voice recording?, My old SGS recordings were a lot louder than on my new SGSII.
Great thank you so much for the post. It helped me out.
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So, it seems I have finally found out how to adjust the microphone volume on the phone.
I have posted the instructions on my blog. If you try the solution it please respond if it works or not.
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MY SGS2 DOES NOT HAVE THIS VOLUME ISSUE! PEOPLE HEAR ME VERY WELL, SOMETIMES THEY ACTUALLY LOWER THE VOLUME IT IS SO LOUD!!!
Seriously, how much better does it get? I am not in a noise free environment at the moment, how big of a gain does this produce? Does this fix work with the genuine wired headphones?
i thought this fix was temporary only, after a phone reboot the fix resets to default ?
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i thought this fix was temporary only, after a phone reboot the fix resets to default ?
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how often do you reboot your phone?
ph00ny said:
how often do you reboot your phone?
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I must admit...in all the smartphone that i have ever used.....This is the only phone that i have never rebooted except when flashing roms/kernels etc...
I never reboot! I did today, because I wanted to calibrate the battery for the first time and I let it die. So I let it die after 24 hours of use, and then when it turned on it rebooted
I love my phone
hpe said:
So, it seems I have finally found out how to adjust the microphone volume on the phone.
I have posted the instructions on my blog. If you try the solution it please respond if it works or not.
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It works but sadly as others have already mentioned, after a reboot, you have to re enter the settings, which is the only draw back, and am one of those who reboots the phone on a daily. Is there any way of making this permanent even following a reboot?. I can imagine its probably difficult, but thought I'd ask anywhere. Thanks op.
I'm actually looking for a way to lower the input gain, as my voice comes out distorted on the other side. Any clues? Besides the obvious "Turn 88 into something lower, I tried 70 and didn't work"
I don't know how the values can be saved so that they survive a restart. Personally I only restart my phone when it runs out of battery, or if I've done flashing that requries a reboot. If I need to disconnect from the real world airplane mode is used.
So, has anyone had any luck using this method? Seems to work for me.
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I'm actually looking for a way to lower the input gain, as my voice comes out distorted on the other side. Any clues? Besides the obvious "Turn 88 into something lower, I tried 70 and didn't work"
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That's quite the opposite problem Other than what you tried I have no idea. Sounds like a faulty device?
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I don't know how the values can be saved so that they survive a restart. Personally I only restart my phone when it runs out of battery, or if I've done flashing that requries a reboot. If I need to disconnect from the real world airplane mode is used.
So, has anyone had any luck using this method? Seems to work for me.
That's quite the opposite problem Other than what you tried I have no idea. Sounds like a faulty device?
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Actually, I tried 20 yesterday, and it did solve my problem!
Now sound is crisp and undistorted!
The question is,
1. How to make it stick reboot.
2. What do the rest of the volumes do? Vol0_1 0_2 0_3 etc, you suggested to edit number 5. Why specifically that one?
1. Still a mystery
2. My guess is that there are certain levels of output, and that all of them should be adjusted according to the other to have a linear line. The fact that I wrote that only 5 should be edited was simply because that worked for me.
First, great thanks hpe !!
I got my phone 2 days ago and got same problem.
ppl could not hear me well.
I tried your solution, hope it will help (tried 1-2 calls and seems ok).
I have noticed also that when you talk you should be
stable with your hand and your face , I mean,
it should be with fix distance between the mouth and phone, not important the distance but it should be stable during the call, if not the AGC comes up and down and the other side can't hear you well...
About save setting,
Maybe there is ini file or something (rooted phone) that can be changed to keep value after reboot, I have noticed in the 2 days I have the phone that I had to reboot phone after install application to get it works well.
I've follow the hpe solution but i still have volume problem
My specific problem is:
On Normal Mic call > very low volume... on my SGS2 with android 2.3.3
But with Speaker call > clear (no problem)
Very strange!! I can't be able to solve this problem.
I'd like to precise that with other voip app like bria or "csip simple" i have no problem, mic volume is perfect..
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I've follow the hpe solution but i still have volume problem
My specific problem is:
On Normal Mic call > very low volume... on my SGS2 with android 2.3.3
But with Speaker call > clear (no problem)
Very strange!! I can't be able to solve this problem.
I'd like to precise that with other voip app like bria or "csip simple" i have no problem, mic volume is perfect..
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Speaker call uses different mic settings (since you've a higher distance between your mouth and the mic while using speaker), so it might just the "normal mic call" volume setting which fails.
I have understand and many thanks for your reply but it's strange that those settings works perfectly with the other voip applications..
Hi i've a huawei x5 with the last realese of oxygen and franco kernel, and my microphone works bad, my tell me that they can't hear me right, so i want to install the stock rom to test to see if the problem is for the software or hardware, what is the latest stock rom and where i can download it?
There are some problems with Mic volume on Oxygen...But it shouldn't be that bad...Anyway, check your PMs for Stock Rom instructions.
if you edit the "hw.secondary_mic=0" line to "hw.secondary_mic=1" from build.prop it should be fine.
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if you edit the "hw.secondary_mic=0" line to "hw.secondary_mic=1" from build.prop it should be fine.
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ALL people that tried this crap -said iit makes things worse with that setting.
Anyway soft will not help in this situation. It's bug in hardware/drivers. Some people are lucky to get good working cancellation others do get bad ones.
Also, i think that parameter is used to tell the phone to use secondary mic as primary.
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if you edit the "hw.secondary_mic=0" line to "hw.secondary_mic=1" from build.prop it should be fine.
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That just placebo effect, i think
Problem Headphone/Mic
I only use the U8800 heaphones/mic and I must not change because the pinout is different (begining by the point):
Sound.L/Sound.R/Mic/Ground.
The others like Samsung, LG, etc. the pinout is:
Sound.L/Sound.R/Ground/Mic.
If we chage it the sound is bad because it return by Mic, not by ground. The Mic sound is also bad
Or your problem is another?
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Problem Headphone/Mic
I only use the U8800 heaphones/mic and I must not change because the pinout is different (begining by the point):
Sound.L/Sound.R/Mic/Ground.
The others like Samsung, Lg, etc. the pinout is:
Sound.L/Sound.R/Ground/Mic.
If we chage it the sound is bad because it return by Mic, not by ground.
Or your problem is other?
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People here are talking about phone mic. And that when they talk people do not understand them because of noise cancellation chops up their voices and removes some part of it.
I have the same problem, others have trouble to hear my voice!
I think I was the first to put this question and until now, not a single question was effective... I think it's like tommyxoft said... With some peolpe the secondary microphone erases some voice parts, leaving voice muffled... I guess it is related to the tone of our voice...
I sent my X5 to be serviced and when I got it back I tested "the bad mic thing" again with the stock ROM and everything was fine. Everyone could hear me loud and clear. Then, I rooted the device and flashed Oxygen 2.2.2 and I tested it again. Problem was reborn once again!!! I tried B160, B130 v8, Miui also with same results. Obviously, it's a software thing but I don't want my X5 to be unrooted and with stock ROM! So I made peace with it. The only sure thing is to cover the secondary mic with your finger when making/receiving calls. That works perfect!!!
P.S. In addition, the "hwVolumeFactor.cfg" file is missing. It is not located in the "/system/etc/hwVolumeFactor.cfg" directory anymore. I've searched all folders with no luck. Any ideas???
You can disable secondary microphone by sellotape