Hi All,
Can anyone please advice what is the difference between (preferably technical diff from device's perspective), the Soft Reset and Reboot of your device.
- By Soft Reset, I mean the one which we ideally do by removing the backcover of Jade and putting the stylus in Reset Button/Hole.
- By Reboot, I mean Power OFF your device with the Power button on the top of the device and then Restart/Reboot (Power ON) your device all over again.
I'm wondering are both of them same and does the same functionality at the background OR they are some way different from each other?
It might be a dump Q for many experts, but I'm just too curious.
Gurus, please throw some light on their difference.
Thanks in advance!!
AFAIK, it's the same.
azahidi said:
AFAIK, it's the same.
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I agree, AFAIK.
So, that means I can use them (Soft reset and Reboot) interchangeably.....
- Like after installing any third party application when it says to reset, I can just Power OFF and Power ON (reboot) the device rather then doing a soft reset. And the application will be installed perfectly as it suppose to be...
- Like I need to do a soft reset using my stylus (after removing the back cover), ONLY if my device hangs or freeze for some reason. Till then I can happily manage any reset requirement by just Power OFF/ON (reboot) my device.....
Are these inferences correct? Please share your thoughts......
yes, your inferences are correct, AFAIK.
azahidi said:
yes, your inferences are correct, AFAIK.
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Agree, AFAIK.
I agree. Just as on a PC, shutting it down completely and turning it back on is the same as restarting it (via Start>Shut Down>Restart).
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Hello,
Is there any difference between power-off then power-on, and power-off then soft-reset?
thanks
fastscud said:
Hello,
Is there any difference between power-off then power-on, and power-off then soft-reset?
thanks
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No difference if you mean a true power off i.e. a long press on power button until the message pops up, not just a quick press. I suppose soft reset is like a restart on PC and true power off is a shutdown.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Yes, by 'power-off' I mean actually holding the power button for several seconds to turn off the device.
The reason for my question is that I saw, for one of the hermes hacks (sorry, can't remember which one), some instructions that say power off the device, then do a soft-reset, after installing some cabs for the hacks.
Anyway, I figured they are the same as well.
cheers
fastscud said:
Hi Mike,
Yes, by 'power-off' I mean actually holding the power button for several seconds to turn off the device.
The reason for my question is that I saw, for one of the hermes hacks (sorry, can't remember which one), some instructions that say power off the device, then do a soft-reset, after installing some cabs for the hacks.
Anyway, I figured they are the same as well.
cheers
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Yes that's a bit of overkill. I know why they say this though. Lots of folks complain because they make a registry change followed by a soft reset and the changes thay have just made disappear on re-start.
When registry changes are made they are not written back for some time - say a few minutes. This means that a quick soft reset and you lose all your changes. However using the long press power-off forces a write back to the registry and thus saves the changes. (Alternatively wait say 10 minutes and do a soft reset - but why wait). I can't personally see the point in following up with a soft reset - unless someone can think of a reason.
Mike
I see, that clears it up. Thanks Mike!
I installed some software, a voice activation software, and now it crashes everytime i try to navigate to settings to remove the software. I have to reset it from the back everytime.
How can I sort this out
Sounds like time for a hard reset?
Sfkn2 said:
Sounds like time for a hard reset?
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I'm fairly certain you are going to have to hard reset too. Sorry
i just suffered the same fate thanks to my MT4.
btw , if you have sktools, you can try the remove program from there too
How do I do a hard reset? Wasn't that only done through the settings option on the phone?
Hard reset means you return the Xperia to "out of the box" state ...you loose all data and programs
1. turn off the phone
2. Hold both right and left buttons (the hardware buttons that stick out a bit, right under the screen)
3. press power button, while still holding the others
4. follow on screen instructions (to press "R" to confirm reset, slide out and use the hardware keyboard)
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I had exactly the same problem this week.
I had bought the program and installed it successfully. However after installing it again after a hard reset, it did exactly as you describe, crashing when you try to access settings.
I think the version I had purchased was MSVoiceCommand_1.6.17913.CAB. There is a version getting around these forums (MSVC_US_PPC_1.6.19209.bengalih.CAB) which did the trick for me.
Hope this helps
CapsLock1 said:
I had exactly the same problem this week.
I had bought the program and installed it successfully. However after installing it again after a hard reset, it did exactly as you describe, crashing when you try to access settings.
I think the version I had purchased was MSVoiceCommand_1.6.17913.CAB. There is a version getting around these forums (MSVC_US_PPC_1.6.19209.bengalih.CAB) which did the trick for me.
Hope this helps
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I'm scared installing any other voice command now, I've reset the phone too many times.
IS this software even that good?
I had the same problem too
In lieu of installing a 3rd party software (eg sktools, memmaid, etc) you could try uninstalling it via active sync. Or maybe remove it from the startup programs then soft reset.
what is the difference in the following:
clean storage, soft reset (turning phone off) and that red button near the battery
clean storage is a hard reset... ie it wipes all data from your device returning it to factory settings.
soft reset (which can be achieved any number of ways) and the red reset button do the same thing.... reboot the device.
the red reset button is completely redundant imo and i have no idea why HTC put it on the device as it is easier and quicker to simply take the battery out and replace it.
If they really wanted a reset button they should have made it easier to press (ie/ without a pin)
Audio Oblivion said:
the red reset button is completely redundant imo and i have no idea why HTC put it on the device as it is easier and quicker to simply take the battery out and replace it.
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in theory you shouldn't do that when the phone is on, it can (in theory remember) cause sparks that can affect the internals. personally I've yet to try using the red button, seems the prefect size for pressing with a stylus.
samsamuel said:
in theory you shouldn't do that when the phone is on, it can (in theory remember) cause sparks that can affect the internals. personally I've yet to try using the red button, seems the prefect size for pressing with a stylus.
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correct theory... but in practice... ive been doing just that on every mobile phone ive ever had =)
Switching off the phone and after a few seconds switching it on again acts also as a soft reset, so no need for third party apps, red button or battery and it is safe also.
Except that most of the times I need to soft reset it's because the phone is frozen, so no way to switch off
kilrah said:
Except that most of the times I need to soft reset it's because the phone is frozen, so no way to switch off
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Fortunately I never encountered that problem (untill now at least).
I have discovered pulling the battery on my phone causes my email accounts to lose their pop and smtp addresses. Using the red button doesnt. Also when pulling the battery my router security code is gone too.
Is it possiable I can have softrest (cap) shortcut button ( instead of Powering off / press softrest button under cover / remove battery) on my t-mobile htc hd2 without installing non-official rom?
yes you have to instal one of this cab file.
search for xdaShutdown or Touch X reset
suryo88 said:
yes you have to instal one of this cab file.
search for xdaShutdown or Touch X reset
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You can also install HButton (along with the xdaShutdown cab mentioned here), so you can map this app to a long press of the power button.
Good luck!
suryo88 said:
yes you have to instal one of this cab file.
search for xdaShutdown or Touch X reset
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Yep, this is what i was looking for...thanks lot
I dont understand this need for "reboot software" whats so hard about holding the power off button for a few seconds then hitting the power off button that appears on screen, then pressing the power button again once the phone is off?
If your phone is so fubar that you have to resort to pulling off the battery cover and poking the reset button, then a piece of software to reboot it likely wont be of any use.
I do remember trying out such software long ago on my MDA, and it always seemed the software just instantly rebooted, rather than doing a graceful shutdown. What are the chances of file system corruption by repeatedly doing instant reboots rather than graceful shutdowns? especially dealing with the larger file storage spaces we have now
RESTART
alsalahi said:
Is it possiable I can have softrest (cap) shortcut button ( instead of Powering off / press softrest button under cover / remove battery) on my t-mobile htc hd2 without installing non-official rom?
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I use this....It worked better than the XDA shutdown for me.
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-apps-ranster-device-reset.html
d0ug said:
I dont understand this need for "reboot software" whats so hard about holding the power off button for a few seconds then hitting the power off button that appears on screen, then pressing the power button again once the phone is off?
If your phone is so fubar that you have to resort to pulling off the battery cover and poking the reset button, then a piece of software to reboot it likely wont be of any use.
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d0ug,
I was thinking the same exact thing. Maybe out of some freak of nature, I got the only perfect T-mobile USA HD2 but, I have never had to do any type of forced hard reset or forced soft reset. I rarely shut it off, mostly running 24/7
Thank you,
Monnie
MonnieRock said:
d0ug,
I was thinking the same exact thing. Maybe out of some freak of nature, I got the only perfect T-mobile USA HD2 but, I have never had to do any type of forced hard reset or forced soft reset. I rarely shut it off, mostly running 24/7
Thank you,
Monnie
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Ive not had any issues with mine either, other than the well documented SMS bug that starts slowing the phone down around 200sms messages or so.
Hopefully there will be a fix from HTC for that, in the meantime i just use PIMBackup weekly to backup all my SMS messages, and have created a "blank" message backup file that i use to restore over the message DB wiping out all the SMS.
For normal usage the phone has been great, ive only had to reset a few times after screwing around with some more advanced settings, nothing that would have been a problem for sometime just normally using the phone.
I've only poked my reset button under the battery cover once, mainly to see that it worked lol, basically the day i got the phone, going over all the functions of the phone to make sure everything worked.
Hi
I know that it is possible to restore Tablet to factory defaults and also hard reset it (by holding the power button for 15-20 minutes).
So, I was wondering whether it is possible to perform a hard reset on the Docking, should it have some problems?
I'm not sure why you would want to. The dock isn't intelligent.
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I'm not sure why you would want to. The dock isn't intelligent.
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It's got usb ports and card slot, right? I guess that requires some sort of chip, which could be reset if nesessary?
That's just my idea
What? Hold down the power button for 15-20 minutes? Even Ronnie Coleman can't manage that.