Hello,
Is there any difference between power-off then power-on, and power-off then soft-reset?
thanks
fastscud said:
Hello,
Is there any difference between power-off then power-on, and power-off then soft-reset?
thanks
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No difference if you mean a true power off i.e. a long press on power button until the message pops up, not just a quick press. I suppose soft reset is like a restart on PC and true power off is a shutdown.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Yes, by 'power-off' I mean actually holding the power button for several seconds to turn off the device.
The reason for my question is that I saw, for one of the hermes hacks (sorry, can't remember which one), some instructions that say power off the device, then do a soft-reset, after installing some cabs for the hacks.
Anyway, I figured they are the same as well.
cheers
fastscud said:
Hi Mike,
Yes, by 'power-off' I mean actually holding the power button for several seconds to turn off the device.
The reason for my question is that I saw, for one of the hermes hacks (sorry, can't remember which one), some instructions that say power off the device, then do a soft-reset, after installing some cabs for the hacks.
Anyway, I figured they are the same as well.
cheers
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Yes that's a bit of overkill. I know why they say this though. Lots of folks complain because they make a registry change followed by a soft reset and the changes thay have just made disappear on re-start.
When registry changes are made they are not written back for some time - say a few minutes. This means that a quick soft reset and you lose all your changes. However using the long press power-off forces a write back to the registry and thus saves the changes. (Alternatively wait say 10 minutes and do a soft reset - but why wait). I can't personally see the point in following up with a soft reset - unless someone can think of a reason.
Mike
I see, that clears it up. Thanks Mike!
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ok here is the problem, i downloaded batterystatus and loaded a few option it asked for a soft restart so i let it be, soon as it get to the today screen it freezes, my activesyne wont connect to my phone it just stays frozen, is there another way to do a hard reset? or clear this issue please i really need help.
what the guy below me said!
jr4000watts said:
ok here is the problem, i downloaded batterystatus and loaded a few option it asked for a soft restart so i let it be, soon as it get to the today screen it freezes, my activesyne wont connect to my phone it just stays frozen, is there another way to do a hard reset? or clear this issue please i really need help.
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If you have the phone completely off, (battery removed). If your holding bothe soft keys when you press the power button it will ask you to press y/n to do hard reset
jr4000watts said:
ok here is the problem, i downloaded batterystatus and loaded a few option it asked for a soft restart so i let it be, soon as it get to the today screen it freezes, my activesyne wont connect to my phone it just stays frozen, is there another way to do a hard reset? or clear this issue please i really need help.
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Press the two soft keys and with the stylus at the same time press the reset button. Good luck
Regards
Hi,
Yesterday, all of a sudden, my Tmobile Wing started vibrating and it wouldn't stop. I took a look at it and the front two lights displayed red and blue during this vibration episode. The only way I could stop it was by taking the battery out. After reinstalling it, I did a soft boot and it turned back on and worked perfectly fine for about eight more hours. Then, last night, it started vibrating again on it's own so I did the same exact thing as earlier in the day.
This time, it did not respond to a soft boot. It won't respond to a hard boot either. It won't take a charge (or at register it's taking a charge). Nothing!
The only thing that displays is a little BLUE light on the keyboard where it says, ALT. If I remove the battery, the light goes out. Once I insert the battery again, the blue Alt light goes back on. The phone is completely dead otherwise.
I have not done any hacks, updates, changes whatsoever. It didn't get wet and was not dropped.
Any possible ideas what the little blue light is supposed to mean? It's got to be some kind of service code or something? I'm pretty sure the battery still has a charge, but I haven't tried a new one. I even tried the plugging in the AC adapter and the phone still wouldn't respond at all. Is there any reason to think the computer would recognize it with the USB cable when it won't even power up?
Any solutions or where to turn with this thing? I think the little blue ALT light must signify some error code possibly......
Thanks.
it's the ALT key..
so you can input the blue characters on the keyboard.
you're phone is possessed.. sorry
can it go into bootloader mode(hold camera key and pole hole on side)?
if it can just flash a new rom into it or the original tmobile stock rom.
Have you hard-resetted your phone?
Which ROM are you using?
mv3, the answers to your questions.
Brudha said:
It won't respond to a hard boot either. I have not done any hacks, updates, changes whatsoever. It didn't get wet and was not dropped.
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Hey I Install The Cube And Enable It But How Do I Run It Like How To I Turn It On What Button Am I Suppose To Put
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what cube did you install?
well install ftouchflo config by schaps and enable ftouchflo
i suggest you uninstall your cube and install slithers cube here.
then either get ftouchflo config or get the _ftouchflo_config.txt file from the windows folder and make the down-up gesture to be slithers cube.
kidnamedAlbert said:
mv3, the answers to your questions.
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uhmm...no.
hard boot does not = hard-reset.
boot = to load your device.
there's no such thing as a hard boot or is there?
i assumed this person meant a power cycle..because if the device is not booting even after performing a hard reset command via hardware keys..blablablah..
saying you have a wing does not mention which of the stock ROMs is on the device.
so yeah... my questions werent answered.. :/
mv3 said:
uhmm...no.
hard boot does not = hard-reset.
boot = to load your device.
there's no such thing as a hard boot or is there?
i assumed this person meant a power cycle..because if the device is not booting even after performing a hard reset command via hardware keys..blablablah..
saying you have a wing does not mention which of the stock ROMs is on the device.
so yeah... my questions werent answered.. :/
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I might be using the words 'reboot' and 'reset' interchangeably (incorrect or not). What I have attempted to do is a soft reset by depressing the little hole by the volume control. This is what worked the first time for me. The phone will NOT respond to that now.
In attempting a hard reset, I pressed the two buttons on the front marked with a '-' at the same time as depressing the same hole. Nothing responds to this at all. Is this the corrrect procedure for a factory reset?
I'm not sure the exact ROM installed. I have not changed it at all since the phone was purchased, so it's original. Since the phone doesn't even work now, doesn't seem like I can find out the ROM version.
Brudha said:
I might be using the words 'reboot' and 'reset' interchangeably (incorrect or not). What I have attempted to do is a soft reset by depressing the little hole by the volume control. This is what worked the first time for me. The phone will NOT respond to that now.
In attempting a hard reset, I pressed the two buttons on the front marked with a '-' at the same time as depressing the same hole. Nothing responds to this at all. Is this the corrrect procedure for a factory reset?
I'm not sure the exact ROM installed. I have not changed it at all since the phone was purchased, so it's original. Since the phone doesn't even work now, doesn't seem like I can find out the ROM version.
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continue holding the 2 soft keys, don't release. a warning should appear.. if you press the 'Send' key... the send call/talk/etc button.. then it should initiate a dealer specified ("hard")reset.. if you press any other buttons, it will ignore the attempted hard reset.
if that doesn't happen.. then that's very uncool....
Well, after trying just about everything, I've pretty much accepted there's got to be some sort of 'short' to the motherboard. I think the ALT light constantly on signifies the phone thinks that key is indefinitely in a depressed state. Or something like that...........
same thing happened to my phone. does anyone know if there's a known fix for this?
Hi All,
Can anyone please advice what is the difference between (preferably technical diff from device's perspective), the Soft Reset and Reboot of your device.
- By Soft Reset, I mean the one which we ideally do by removing the backcover of Jade and putting the stylus in Reset Button/Hole.
- By Reboot, I mean Power OFF your device with the Power button on the top of the device and then Restart/Reboot (Power ON) your device all over again.
I'm wondering are both of them same and does the same functionality at the background OR they are some way different from each other?
It might be a dump Q for many experts, but I'm just too curious.
Gurus, please throw some light on their difference.
Thanks in advance!!
AFAIK, it's the same.
azahidi said:
AFAIK, it's the same.
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I agree, AFAIK.
So, that means I can use them (Soft reset and Reboot) interchangeably.....
- Like after installing any third party application when it says to reset, I can just Power OFF and Power ON (reboot) the device rather then doing a soft reset. And the application will be installed perfectly as it suppose to be...
- Like I need to do a soft reset using my stylus (after removing the back cover), ONLY if my device hangs or freeze for some reason. Till then I can happily manage any reset requirement by just Power OFF/ON (reboot) my device.....
Are these inferences correct? Please share your thoughts......
yes, your inferences are correct, AFAIK.
azahidi said:
yes, your inferences are correct, AFAIK.
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Agree, AFAIK.
I agree. Just as on a PC, shutting it down completely and turning it back on is the same as restarting it (via Start>Shut Down>Restart).
Is it possiable I can have softrest (cap) shortcut button ( instead of Powering off / press softrest button under cover / remove battery) on my t-mobile htc hd2 without installing non-official rom?
yes you have to instal one of this cab file.
search for xdaShutdown or Touch X reset
suryo88 said:
yes you have to instal one of this cab file.
search for xdaShutdown or Touch X reset
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You can also install HButton (along with the xdaShutdown cab mentioned here), so you can map this app to a long press of the power button.
Good luck!
suryo88 said:
yes you have to instal one of this cab file.
search for xdaShutdown or Touch X reset
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Yep, this is what i was looking for...thanks lot
I dont understand this need for "reboot software" whats so hard about holding the power off button for a few seconds then hitting the power off button that appears on screen, then pressing the power button again once the phone is off?
If your phone is so fubar that you have to resort to pulling off the battery cover and poking the reset button, then a piece of software to reboot it likely wont be of any use.
I do remember trying out such software long ago on my MDA, and it always seemed the software just instantly rebooted, rather than doing a graceful shutdown. What are the chances of file system corruption by repeatedly doing instant reboots rather than graceful shutdowns? especially dealing with the larger file storage spaces we have now
RESTART
alsalahi said:
Is it possiable I can have softrest (cap) shortcut button ( instead of Powering off / press softrest button under cover / remove battery) on my t-mobile htc hd2 without installing non-official rom?
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I use this....It worked better than the XDA shutdown for me.
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-apps-ranster-device-reset.html
d0ug said:
I dont understand this need for "reboot software" whats so hard about holding the power off button for a few seconds then hitting the power off button that appears on screen, then pressing the power button again once the phone is off?
If your phone is so fubar that you have to resort to pulling off the battery cover and poking the reset button, then a piece of software to reboot it likely wont be of any use.
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d0ug,
I was thinking the same exact thing. Maybe out of some freak of nature, I got the only perfect T-mobile USA HD2 but, I have never had to do any type of forced hard reset or forced soft reset. I rarely shut it off, mostly running 24/7
Thank you,
Monnie
MonnieRock said:
d0ug,
I was thinking the same exact thing. Maybe out of some freak of nature, I got the only perfect T-mobile USA HD2 but, I have never had to do any type of forced hard reset or forced soft reset. I rarely shut it off, mostly running 24/7
Thank you,
Monnie
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Ive not had any issues with mine either, other than the well documented SMS bug that starts slowing the phone down around 200sms messages or so.
Hopefully there will be a fix from HTC for that, in the meantime i just use PIMBackup weekly to backup all my SMS messages, and have created a "blank" message backup file that i use to restore over the message DB wiping out all the SMS.
For normal usage the phone has been great, ive only had to reset a few times after screwing around with some more advanced settings, nothing that would have been a problem for sometime just normally using the phone.
I've only poked my reset button under the battery cover once, mainly to see that it worked lol, basically the day i got the phone, going over all the functions of the phone to make sure everything worked.
Hello my friends.
Recently my girlfriend gave me her HTC TOUCH HD. I want to find a way to format the phone, so it would be like the day she bought it. I don't know many things about fixing windows phones but if someone knows the way to do this, i would be grateful (sorry for my English).
Thanks in advance.
restoring it to factory defaults is called a hard reset.
it is done by shutting down the device, then pressing vol+, vol- and power at the same time. this will take you to a white screen with blue font, giving you further instructions. in the end, it will reboot and start with the OOBE (out of the box experience), meaning, you get the oportunity to set the time, align the screen...
the important things is: this will format the entire storage partition, the contents of the my documents folder will be deleted, there will be no apps on it, all contacts, sms, emails, appointments, tasks and other pim data will be gone...
so it is greatly advised to backup personal data first, copy documents, photos... to the storage card (which is not affected by a hard reset), back up your pim data using pimbackup or sync it with outlook or ms myphone.
basic things like this are also covered in the first few pages of the manual, which, if missing, can easily be downloaded at htc.com
First of all thanks for your help!!
I did that (Vol +, Vol - and power) and it made a sound and now it doesn't start! Before making this action i did a reset from the back side of the phone (a button next to the battery). And the other problem i have is that the power button broke and missing so i have to push it with the pen. I don't know what to do now. I think i must go to an mobile technician.
aspaitanthrwpos said:
First of all thanks for your help!!
I did that (Vol +, Vol - and power) and it made a sound and now it doesn't start! Before making this action i did a reset from the back side of the phone (a button next to the battery). And the other problem i have is that the power button broke and missing so i have to push it with the pen. I don't know what to do now. I think i must go to an mobile technician.
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to hard reset:
1, charge it to at least 50% power and power off
2, hold vol + and vol - buttons
3, hit power button once to power on
4, release vol buttons when you see a tri-color screen
5, follow the instructions to confirm hard reset
simplistian said:
to hard reset:
1, charge it to at least 50% power and power off
2, hold vol + and vol - buttons
3, hit power button once to power on
4, release vol buttons when you see a tri-color screen
5, follow the instructions to confirm hard reset
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The hard reset was successful. My problem is that the screen is "closed" but the phone is still power on! The screen has not light so i cannot see!! And the funny thing is that the display lights after a few seconds and when i try to touch it, it immediately fading again.. How can i solve this problem?
what exactly happened?
the success of the hard reset would show as presenting you with the initial OOBE (as mentioned above). it takes you through a welcome wizard to set up basic things, where you just have to follow the steps shown. in the end windows mobile will boot, maybe customize your device further (by automatic data setup or the installation of carrier specific apps). then there would be a reboot. and from then on, you are to set up all further settings yourself. at what point in this timeline did the problem present itself?
oh, also, for backlight settings, go to start->settings->system->power and go to the 2nd tab, there you can uncheck the automatic backlight adjust and in the 3rd tab, you can extend the time, the backlight is activated.
and if this was the issue, let me point you at the official manual again:
http://www.htc.com/www/userguide.aspx?p_id=179
and here is a link to a basic faq, which, incidently, shows the hard reset procedure as the very first point: http://www.htc.com/www/help_howtos.aspx?p_id=179
you can answer some very basic questions for yourself there.
hope it helps,
regards
As i said before the hard reset was successful. I set the "screen align", the time zone and then the screen faded and has no light but the phone was still working. That's my problem. I cannot see the screen to make the changes you say.
Why don't you try to hard reset the device once more. Maybe that will fix the problem. Anyway, I don't think that the process of hard reset was the reason of the problem anyway.
Don't panic and try once more. Nothing to loose.
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