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I have a G1 that I got off a friend today, and it has a weird problem. It cannot make any calls at all not even emergency calls. It says out of range. with or without the sim card.
I cannot activate it because i have no network access, can i reflash the radio in the phone to see if it works?
I dont know the history of the phone and nether does she, but if you do ask for more info i will try my best!
mosher89 said:
I cannot activate it because i have no network access, can i reflash the radio in the phone to see if it works?
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Have you set the APN settings for your network?
No How can do that?
Would that also affect the phone making emergency calls?
Cheers
I broke mine too
I broke my calling ability by deleting the myfaves app. oops. Fortunately, I was able to install jf again to fix it.
ive been reading and it sounds like this is somehow doable. i've been trying to figure it out for YEARS, but to no luck. ive got htc hermes, blueangel, wallaby, motorazr, you name the phone i can get it.
how can i set this up. ive tried to dialup network over bluetooth and dial the phonenumber of hte isp, but i get PHONE IS BUSY.
help me guys, please=
i cant add data to my plan, this is my only shot at internet on my phone.
You and I just keep runnin into each other....
Who is your carrier and/or why can't you add data?
I had, at one point been q class w/tmobile, and wasn't allowed to add any data plan(s) so I had to connect to some internet provider over gsm cellular connection. this is, to the best of my knowledge, how I did it.
Go to settings, connections, connections, manage connectins, and add new.
Name it and select "cellular line" (not gprs).
Next, input the phone number your dial up provider uses (i'm not sure about 1's or +1's or whatever)
Next enter your username and password for your provider (most dial up's don't use a domain, so leave that blank).
Next, finish, and select it under "manage connections" so it is the default (this will screw up your messaging) and test it out. You may want to use autopick or leave the existing default connection as the default connection, and just click the g icon, and select another connection to connect to the net at that particular time, to maintain your ability to text.
You can expect a slow, fax machine like connection.
I have tmo now, and an sx66 (no 3g or edge) so I got the web2go for 9.99 (for normal phones) and set my access point to internet2.voicestream.com, with no proxy, or username/pass, and I get about dial up -ish speeds. I do have an issue with mms, and am working that out now.
irlol. we're the only two people in the BA forum nowdays, id say we're going to get to know each other realgood. its slightly funny that ive been searching for these instructions for 4years and you're the ONLY person ive found whos done it, so thank you verymuch.
as for carrier, im on att blue. original ATT before cingular bought it and then before cingular changed its name to att. im completely grandfathered in, they refuse to let me modify any of my addons. so i get charged up the ass for data.
alright i set it up. adding the + to the number made it dial longer, buit it sttill screams THERE IS NO MODEM AT THIUS NUMBER.
when i know damnwellt here is. this sux. -_-
i use same method with carrier Claro Dom, with my excalibur. on hermes and any umts phone u must disable it umts/3g first. i have used it with wizard perfectly.btw at&t had this service, using a home dialup account. if the number dialed is free of charge then u get free internet we call Dial-slow, as said already at fax speed which i havent seen over 9600 kbps.
i tried it on the blueangel as well, it didnt work. and its a standard gprs/gsm phone. no edge or 3g.
why can you all get it working and i can, what hte hell am i missing lmfao
ive been trying to get this to work for years i currently just got a Sprint Touch Pro 2 and i am going to Asia for a month. While their im goign to use the GSM portion of my phone.. etc and i would like to still get emails and use the itnernet..
i know the speeds will be ubeeer slow.. but if i put in as said earlier in this forum something from a dial up ISP, i should only get charged VOICe minutes and not data KB?
that would be AWESOME!!!!
I'll be out of the country and wanted to pick up a local SIM card. I'm not sure it will have data available on this local SIM (or lets assume it might, but might be crazy expensive).
I'd like to use the phone only for calls and also use the wifi for some very limited browsing (so I don't have to cart a laptop with me).
What setting combination do I need for this? I can't do full "airplane mode" b/c I will want to enable the wifi radio.
thanks,
Mike
To answer my own question (a few more hours of Googling), it looks like APNDroid may be the answer to this dilemna... but if there is something better, would love to hear about it.
Hmm well if you get a card with no data service then you have nothing to worry about. Just find a wifi signal and you're set. If you do get data service but still want to use only wifi, one solution is to only use data services when you're connected with wifi...... and don't use them when you're not...... the phone will prefer wifi over 3G/EDGE when its connected. If you really need to get rambo with it you can just break your APN settings to guarantee no data connection over the network
pimpin214 said:
Hmm well if you get a card with no data service then you have nothing to worry about. Just find a wifi signal and you're set. If you do get data service but still want to use only wifi, one solution is to only use data services when you're connected with wifi...... and don't use them when you're not...... the phone will prefer wifi over 3G/EDGE when its connected. If you really need to get rambo with it you can just break your APN settings to guarantee no data connection over the network
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(smacks forehead).... good point about the SIM if it doesn't support data
what is rambo? when I search "rambo android" all I get is references to an Indian cartoon.
zim2dive said:
I'll be out of the country and wanted to pick up a local SIM card. I'm not sure it will have data available on this local SIM (or lets assume it might, but might be crazy expensive).
I'd like to use the phone only for calls and also use the wifi for some very limited browsing (so I don't have to cart a laptop with me).
What setting combination do I need for this? I can't do full "airplane mode" b/c I will want to enable the wifi radio.
thanks,
Mike
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Go to Market and download "Toggle Data" might even be one word. Its a widget i i think this is what your looking for.
zim2dive said:
what is rambo? when I search "rambo android" all I get is references to an Indian cartoon.
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haha...
Rambo... see attached.
What I mean is you can break the access point settings by, for instance, removing the password in Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. That way your phone would still make calls but couldn't connect to the mobile data network if it tried. There may be more subtle methods, but the commando approach is often more fun... do a google image search for commando if you're not sure what i mean
Unless you know the Access Point password, it may be more practical to alter the Access Point Name if you want to maintain the ability to connect later - ie, if I changed mine from "epc.tmobile.com" to "epc.immobile.com", I could change it back later.
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haha...
Rambo... see attached.
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ah yes.. the brute force approach ... I know it well
What I mean is you can break the access point settings by, for instance, removing the password in Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. That way your phone would still make calls but couldn't connect to the mobile data network if it tried. There may be more subtle methods, but the commando approach is often more fun... do a google image search for commando if you're not sure what i mean
Unless you know the Access Point password, it may be more practical to alter the Access Point Name if you want to maintain the ability to connect later - ie, if I changed mine from "epc.tmobile.com" to "epc.immobile.com", I could change it back later.
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if I understand correctly that is what APNDroid will do for me (post #2)
Has anyone actually tested out the wifi calling hack by actually going to another country and using it? I am curious because in "airplane mode" the wifi calling app says it will not connect in that mode. I read on the t-mobile site that you should disable data roaming before trying to connect via wifi but that leaves me with a really uneasy feeling. I mean what if it fails? How would you know until you got back to the US and had a ridiculous bill! Your voice antenna remains on? Why does it need that?
copter105 said:
Has anyone actually tested out the wifi calling hack by actually going to another country and using it? I am curious because in "airplane mode" the wifi calling app says it will not connect in that mode. I read on the t-mobile site that you should disable data roaming before trying to connect via wifi but that leaves me with a really uneasy feeling. I mean what if it fails? How would you know until you got back to the US and had a ridiculous bill! Your voice antenna remains on? Why does it need that?
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WiFi calling isn't free.. It is just for people with poor signal.
It still uses your minutes
Master™ said:
WiFi calling isn't free.. It is just for people with poor signal.
It still uses your minutes
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I realize that. But let me rephrase: I would like to be able to use my minutes in another country utilizing wifi but avoiding international roaming charges. Has anyone tested this to see if it is possible?
copter105 said:
I realize that. But let me rephrase: I would like to be able to use my minutes in another country utilizing wifi but avoiding international roaming charges. Has anyone tested this to see if it is possible?
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Ooh... Okay, you could always call & ask T-Mobile..
copter105 said:
Has anyone actually tested out the wifi calling hack by actually going to another country and using it? I am curious because in "airplane mode" the wifi calling app says it will not connect in that mode. I read on the t-mobile site that you should disable data roaming before trying to connect via wifi but that leaves me with a really uneasy feeling. I mean what if it fails? How would you know until you got back to the US and had a ridiculous bill! Your voice antenna remains on? Why does it need that?
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I've used it in France and Germany and it worked fine. There were no surprise charges on my bill.
quadratic said:
I've used it in France and Germany and it worked fine. There were no surprise charges on my bill.
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Thanks for your reply! Just out of curiosity, were you able to accept incoming calls ok?
copter105 said:
Thanks for your reply! Just out of curiosity, were you able to accept incoming calls ok?
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I had incoming calls hard-forwarded directly to voicemail. On T-Mobile, if you're roaming internationally and your phone rings, you'll get charged for one minute even if you let it go to voicemail. I didn't feel like unforwarding every time I got on wifi, so I just left it as is.
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have worked though. I've done it with my BlackBerry on UMA internationally and incoming worked fine.
What are some roms with this setting? I liked CM7 and RG but they dont have this setting. Im on 200 mb plan and I meed this toggle to be able to MMS while mobile data network is off. Thx
knapz said:
What are some roms with this setting? I liked CM7 and RG but they dont have this setting. Im on 200 mb plan and I meed this toggle to be able to MMS while mobile data network is off. Thx
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If your on T-Mobile mms messaging doesn't go against your data limit, its included in your messaging plan.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA Premium App
What I need is a toggle that allows me to MMS while having mobile data off. Maybe its a Sense only feature?
sms/mms is not DATA...
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sms/mms is not DATA...
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Are you sure of this? If my wifi is on and I try to send/recv mms, the 3G lights up. It might not count count toward your data limit, but I think it does utilize your mobile data connection to send/recv mms. I believe the OPs concern is that they want mobile data off, but to be available on demand for sending/receiving mms. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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Are you sure of this? If my wifi is on and I try to send/recv mms, the 3G lights up. It might not count count toward your data limit, but I think it does utilize your mobile data connection to send/recv mms. I believe the OPs concern is that they want mobile data off, but to be available on demand for sending/receiving mms. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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think about what you said for a minute. it is using your CELL, and not the wifi. if it was data it would just go over the wifi.
i can assure you that DATA and SMS/MMS are different. you can have SMS/MMS without having a data plan. dont forget there were cell phones before smart phones came around.
dont believe me? just try it out for yourself. shut off all data and send/receive sms/mms. it works. i have many users with captivates that accidentally turn off their data but texting still works....
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think about what you said for a minute. it is using your CELL, and not the wifi. if it was data it would just go over the wifi.
i can assure you that DATA and SMS/MMS are different. you can have SMS/MMS without having a data plan. dont forget there were cell phones before smart phones came around.
dont believe me? just try it out for yourself. shut off all data and send/receive sms/mms. it works. i have many users with captivates that accidentally turn off their data but texting still works....
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Your confident answer gave me a scare for a sec, because I thought you might be right. Unfortunately you are confused, and consequently wrong as a result.
I will however concede a point - TEXTING works without a data connection. That was never in question. Re-read my post and you'll see I only mention MMS. To send or receive MMS you MUST have a MOBILE data connection. The only possible caveat to this is that this may be T-Mobile only??? I do not have any other carriers to test it on, so you may be right if you have AT$T.
Either way - ATLEAST for T-mo - mobile data must be active to send or receive MMS. If you are on WiFi, and try to send or receive MMS, it will enable mobile data to make that transaction happen. You do not have to have a data plan in order to use MMS, but mobile data must be enabled on the phone. I tested this personally as well as googled the subject to corroborate and compare my results. To quote someone's reasoned response that I found on the interwebz:
"Just to confirm, MMS can not be sent over Wi-Fi. The phone must have access to a carrier's network (its own or roaming) to send. The MMSC has a list of acceptable IP ranges to accept from and well when using Wi-Fi, it is not on that list . Plus if it did send over Wi-fi, the MMSC would not be able to identify correctly where the message is coming from and will not know whether it is a true message or spam."
You are right though, your Captivate using buds are able to send texts while mobile data is off, due to the obvious fact that texting doesn't use mobile data.
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Your confident answer gave me a scare for a sec, because I thought you might be right. Unfortunately you are confused, and consequently wrong as a result.
I will however concede a point - TEXTING works without a data connection. That was never in question. Re-read my post and you'll see I only mention MMS. To send or receive MMS you MUST have a MOBILE data connection. The only possible caveat to this is that this may be T-Mobile only??? I do not have any other carriers to test it on, so you may be right if you have AT$T.
Either way - ATLEAST for T-mo - mobile data must be active to send or receive MMS. If you are on WiFi, and try to send or receive MMS, it will enable mobile data to make that transaction happen. You do not have to have a data plan in order to use MMS, but mobile data must be enabled on the phone. I tested this personally as well as googled the subject to corroborate and compare my results. To quote someone's reasoned response that I found on the interwebz:
"Just to confirm, MMS can not be sent over Wi-Fi. The phone must have access to a carrier's network (its own or roaming) to send. The MMSC has a list of acceptable IP ranges to accept from and well when using Wi-Fi, it is not on that list . Plus if it did send over Wi-fi, the MMSC would not be able to identify correctly where the message is coming from and will not know whether it is a true message or spam."
You are right though, your Captivate using buds are able to send texts while mobile data is, off, due to the obvious fact that texting doesn't use mobile data.
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This is correct and what I'm experiencing. I'm on T-Mobile, have 200 MB data plan, using CM7 and RG, I want to be able to turn data off but have it come on automatically for mms (not SMS). I know mms does not count towards data usage but I still would want to be able to control it. I've tried apndroid and data toggle widget to no success.
Fyi if I go into CM7 network settings and uncheck data the mms will not send and will stay in "sending" mode
If I go into miui or evil 4g HD mobile settings I can unchecked data and CHECK enable alwayson data and my mms will work and my browser wont since data is off
TJBunch1228 said:
Your confident answer gave me a scare for a sec, because I thought you might be right. Unfortunately you are confused, and consequently wrong as a result.
I will however concede a point - TEXTING works without a data connection. That was never in question. Re-read my post and you'll see I only mention MMS. To send or receive MMS you MUST have a MOBILE data connection. The only possible caveat to this is that this may be T-Mobile only??? I do not have any other carriers to test it on, so you may be right if you have AT$T.
Either way - ATLEAST for T-mo - mobile data must be active to send or receive MMS. If you are on WiFi, and try to send or receive MMS, it will enable mobile data to make that transaction happen. You do not have to have a data plan in order to use MMS, but mobile data must be enabled on the phone. I tested this personally as well as googled the subject to corroborate and compare my results. To quote someone's reasoned response that I found on the interwebz:
"Just to confirm, MMS can not be sent over Wi-Fi. The phone must have access to a carrier's network (its own or roaming) to send. The MMSC has a list of acceptable IP ranges to accept from and well when using Wi-Fi, it is not on that list . Plus if it did send over Wi-fi, the MMSC would not be able to identify correctly where the message is coming from and will not know whether it is a true message or spam."
You are right though, your Captivate using buds are able to send texts while mobile data is off, due to the obvious fact that texting doesn't use mobile data.
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knapz said:
This is correct and what I'm experiencing. I'm on T-Mobile, have 200 MB data plan, using CM7 and RG, I want to be able to turn data off but have it come on automatically for mms (not SMS). I know mms does not count towards data usage but I still would want to be able to control it. I've tried apndroid and data toggle widget to no success.
Fyi if I go into CM7 network settings and uncheck data the mms will not send and will stay in "sending" mode
If I go into miui or evil 4g HD mobile settings I can unchecked data and CHECK enable alwayson data and my mms will work and my browser wont since data is off
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you are both right. i apologize. i tested this out on my captivate to my desire z. texting works fine, but as you said, MMS doesnt work.
what you want to do sounds like something that can easily be done with tasker. you could have a shortcut on your homescreen that launched a task (enabling data long enough for your MMS). there are probably other variables that could be used in this as well...tasker is extensive.