What are some roms with this setting? I liked CM7 and RG but they dont have this setting. Im on 200 mb plan and I meed this toggle to be able to MMS while mobile data network is off. Thx
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What are some roms with this setting? I liked CM7 and RG but they dont have this setting. Im on 200 mb plan and I meed this toggle to be able to MMS while mobile data network is off. Thx
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If your on T-Mobile mms messaging doesn't go against your data limit, its included in your messaging plan.
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What I need is a toggle that allows me to MMS while having mobile data off. Maybe its a Sense only feature?
sms/mms is not DATA...
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sms/mms is not DATA...
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Are you sure of this? If my wifi is on and I try to send/recv mms, the 3G lights up. It might not count count toward your data limit, but I think it does utilize your mobile data connection to send/recv mms. I believe the OPs concern is that they want mobile data off, but to be available on demand for sending/receiving mms. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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Are you sure of this? If my wifi is on and I try to send/recv mms, the 3G lights up. It might not count count toward your data limit, but I think it does utilize your mobile data connection to send/recv mms. I believe the OPs concern is that they want mobile data off, but to be available on demand for sending/receiving mms. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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think about what you said for a minute. it is using your CELL, and not the wifi. if it was data it would just go over the wifi.
i can assure you that DATA and SMS/MMS are different. you can have SMS/MMS without having a data plan. dont forget there were cell phones before smart phones came around.
dont believe me? just try it out for yourself. shut off all data and send/receive sms/mms. it works. i have many users with captivates that accidentally turn off their data but texting still works....
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think about what you said for a minute. it is using your CELL, and not the wifi. if it was data it would just go over the wifi.
i can assure you that DATA and SMS/MMS are different. you can have SMS/MMS without having a data plan. dont forget there were cell phones before smart phones came around.
dont believe me? just try it out for yourself. shut off all data and send/receive sms/mms. it works. i have many users with captivates that accidentally turn off their data but texting still works....
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Your confident answer gave me a scare for a sec, because I thought you might be right. Unfortunately you are confused, and consequently wrong as a result.
I will however concede a point - TEXTING works without a data connection. That was never in question. Re-read my post and you'll see I only mention MMS. To send or receive MMS you MUST have a MOBILE data connection. The only possible caveat to this is that this may be T-Mobile only??? I do not have any other carriers to test it on, so you may be right if you have AT$T.
Either way - ATLEAST for T-mo - mobile data must be active to send or receive MMS. If you are on WiFi, and try to send or receive MMS, it will enable mobile data to make that transaction happen. You do not have to have a data plan in order to use MMS, but mobile data must be enabled on the phone. I tested this personally as well as googled the subject to corroborate and compare my results. To quote someone's reasoned response that I found on the interwebz:
"Just to confirm, MMS can not be sent over Wi-Fi. The phone must have access to a carrier's network (its own or roaming) to send. The MMSC has a list of acceptable IP ranges to accept from and well when using Wi-Fi, it is not on that list . Plus if it did send over Wi-fi, the MMSC would not be able to identify correctly where the message is coming from and will not know whether it is a true message or spam."
You are right though, your Captivate using buds are able to send texts while mobile data is off, due to the obvious fact that texting doesn't use mobile data.
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Your confident answer gave me a scare for a sec, because I thought you might be right. Unfortunately you are confused, and consequently wrong as a result.
I will however concede a point - TEXTING works without a data connection. That was never in question. Re-read my post and you'll see I only mention MMS. To send or receive MMS you MUST have a MOBILE data connection. The only possible caveat to this is that this may be T-Mobile only??? I do not have any other carriers to test it on, so you may be right if you have AT$T.
Either way - ATLEAST for T-mo - mobile data must be active to send or receive MMS. If you are on WiFi, and try to send or receive MMS, it will enable mobile data to make that transaction happen. You do not have to have a data plan in order to use MMS, but mobile data must be enabled on the phone. I tested this personally as well as googled the subject to corroborate and compare my results. To quote someone's reasoned response that I found on the interwebz:
"Just to confirm, MMS can not be sent over Wi-Fi. The phone must have access to a carrier's network (its own or roaming) to send. The MMSC has a list of acceptable IP ranges to accept from and well when using Wi-Fi, it is not on that list . Plus if it did send over Wi-fi, the MMSC would not be able to identify correctly where the message is coming from and will not know whether it is a true message or spam."
You are right though, your Captivate using buds are able to send texts while mobile data is, off, due to the obvious fact that texting doesn't use mobile data.
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This is correct and what I'm experiencing. I'm on T-Mobile, have 200 MB data plan, using CM7 and RG, I want to be able to turn data off but have it come on automatically for mms (not SMS). I know mms does not count towards data usage but I still would want to be able to control it. I've tried apndroid and data toggle widget to no success.
Fyi if I go into CM7 network settings and uncheck data the mms will not send and will stay in "sending" mode
If I go into miui or evil 4g HD mobile settings I can unchecked data and CHECK enable alwayson data and my mms will work and my browser wont since data is off
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Your confident answer gave me a scare for a sec, because I thought you might be right. Unfortunately you are confused, and consequently wrong as a result.
I will however concede a point - TEXTING works without a data connection. That was never in question. Re-read my post and you'll see I only mention MMS. To send or receive MMS you MUST have a MOBILE data connection. The only possible caveat to this is that this may be T-Mobile only??? I do not have any other carriers to test it on, so you may be right if you have AT$T.
Either way - ATLEAST for T-mo - mobile data must be active to send or receive MMS. If you are on WiFi, and try to send or receive MMS, it will enable mobile data to make that transaction happen. You do not have to have a data plan in order to use MMS, but mobile data must be enabled on the phone. I tested this personally as well as googled the subject to corroborate and compare my results. To quote someone's reasoned response that I found on the interwebz:
"Just to confirm, MMS can not be sent over Wi-Fi. The phone must have access to a carrier's network (its own or roaming) to send. The MMSC has a list of acceptable IP ranges to accept from and well when using Wi-Fi, it is not on that list . Plus if it did send over Wi-fi, the MMSC would not be able to identify correctly where the message is coming from and will not know whether it is a true message or spam."
You are right though, your Captivate using buds are able to send texts while mobile data is off, due to the obvious fact that texting doesn't use mobile data.
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knapz said:
This is correct and what I'm experiencing. I'm on T-Mobile, have 200 MB data plan, using CM7 and RG, I want to be able to turn data off but have it come on automatically for mms (not SMS). I know mms does not count towards data usage but I still would want to be able to control it. I've tried apndroid and data toggle widget to no success.
Fyi if I go into CM7 network settings and uncheck data the mms will not send and will stay in "sending" mode
If I go into miui or evil 4g HD mobile settings I can unchecked data and CHECK enable alwayson data and my mms will work and my browser wont since data is off
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you are both right. i apologize. i tested this out on my captivate to my desire z. texting works fine, but as you said, MMS doesnt work.
what you want to do sounds like something that can easily be done with tasker. you could have a shortcut on your homescreen that launched a task (enabling data long enough for your MMS). there are probably other variables that could be used in this as well...tasker is extensive.
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Is there a way to download mms pictures on verizon without a data connection? like through wifi or lan?
Verizon
Verizon disregards MMS data usage.
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Verizon disregards MMS data usage.
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what does that mean, this phone comes with mms, but all smartphone with verizon uses data to download the imges
Bump. I'd like to know this as well.
Of course, all mobile devices require a data connection to retrieve pictures from the server. But you do not have to have a dedicated data plan to download the pictures. In other words, you'll be able to download pictures with the connection, but unless you have a data plan, you won't be able to do anything besides download MMS attachments. No, WiFi does not work with MMS..
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Is there a way to download mms pictures on verizon without a data connection? like through wifi or lan?
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As stated, you have to use the data connection. I have removed my password so that it prompts me for the password so the phone doesn't "decide" when it wants to use my data connection for something else. Seems to work fine, but they still seem to charge a tiny bit and they shouldn't. I have been transferred up to the chain concerning this. It is not much and I guess most don't complain, but I figured if they were charging the tiny (and it is small) amount to a million customers it starts to add up for them.
Yeah... I thought it was only me... I get a small charge too, like .25 to 1.25 every month. I send mms all the time. I didn't think it was the mms that made the charges though. Every once-in-a-while I would forget to turn on the wifi switch and it would start to dial the 777 number. I would cancel out before connection, but I did think that was the reason for the charges.
I did not have a data plan untill this month. VZW finally dropped the rate to 29.00 per month and I get a 20% disc so 23.20 per month isn't so bad....
So now I will see about the small extra charges... they better not be there or ELSE!!
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wondering if someone can help me with an issue im having regarding mobile data useage. I am in the UK and I live in an area where 3g is non existant so I have switched to GSM only in the settings. My problem is my phone is constantly using data and I dont know why or how to stop it.
I downloaded an app to show mobile useage, calls, text, data etc
My provider charges me £4 per 1 Mb (this is 1024kb yeah?)
Well I then went into the settings and edited the providers auto settings to stop it from connecting, and left my wi fi on. When I went to bed, my data was showing 0.24Mb, when I woke up this morning it was showing 1.23Mb (with a cost of over £4)
What is causing this? Far as I can tell I have manually stopped the phone from connecting but something is using data. I have the Gmail sync option enabled (but wi fi was on) but still, it went up 1 Mb whilst I slept.
Can someone help me out with this issue please as its starting to confuse me
As far as I know, push email doesn't work over wifi. So if you have google syncing enabled, it keeps a small mobile connection open at all times over which email notifications are sent.
I'm not an IT guy, so I might be wrong But just try to disable syncing and see what happens!
I opened the thread "strange bug" related to this. In my case it uses more 3g band only if it's attached to the pc via usb. When I must attach the X10 to the pc I disable the apn with apndroid.
Ciao Angelo
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gmail does work on wifi as far as I can tell. However, I have now gone further into the internet settings and wiped all of the data and the phone now cannot connect. Now this will save me a bundle of cash, but also means that I cant get my internet connection when away from wifi. The APN apps looked good but a lot say dont work with CDMA networks, which I can only assume im on as the apps do nothing
I use WiFi too. But when X10 is attached to the pc it continues to use 3g band even if in the notification bar the WiFi icon appears.
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well I didnt know that.
I can confirm that Gmail sync DOES work over wi-fi as I have completely deleted the phones internet settings now and am still getting my email.
So this means I will no longer be getting charged for data useage, but cant get internet other than wi fi
cybrid3, you didnt need to wipe the apn/internet settings, there is a simple tick box in /wireless controls /mobile networks/ MMS and data <<, unticking this will stop the phone from using any mobile data (sms/texting still works).
Turning off 3g doesnt make any difference as the phone still uses data over gprs or gsm.
These phones are real data hogs and its best to get a cheap plan if you can.
yeah, but if I disabled it all, then I would not longer have MMS and that is something I do use
Ask your provider to:
1. block data
or
2. give you APN settings for MMS only.
Theres also the possibility that wifi is set to disable itself after the phone goes to sleep.
I left my wifi settings on and let the phone sleep. Based on testing through the wifi active time on spare parts, the phone accessed data through the carrier.
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ask your provider for wap access not data
its very cheap
this way u can send and get mms
Why don't you get a plan that includes unlimited data? Only cost me £5 a month extra for that on uk vodafone.. Well worth it.
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I have unlimited data, but they say I have gone over my fair use policy so something has been in the background. It used 1 MB whilst I slept. The plans with fair use of 1GB seem pretty useless now
Is this possible?
Any chance of me being able to ONLY use my 3G connection to send and receive MMS messages but NOT FOR INTERNET BROWSING,APPS AND WIDGETS ETC? Operator costs are very high in my country so this would be great! Thanks in advance if anyone can help me out
why are you doing this .......lmao
Sounds like something tasker may be able to do. But might be a bit specific.
Just looked and there's no 3g switch. Sounds like a fair enough request to me. 3g for something you want done straight away. 2g for all the background stuff.
Sorry I can't help more
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Not sure if this is what you want, but APNDroid will disable 3G data connection, but will still let you send and receive MMS.
I use it most of the time as the 3g data always on uses a lot of battery for no reason.
It's free from the market
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Not sure if this is what you want, but APNDroid will disable 3G data connection, but will still let you send and receive MMS.
I use it most of the time as the 3g data always on uses a lot of battery for no reason.
It's free from the market
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Yes, that's what I'm looking for. Well it's not for battery reasons, I'm charged € 4,99/hour and € 0,50/100 kB. So that's really expensive. I really hate the government for letting the operators get away with this.
In the settings menu simply activate mobile data when you wish to use it for MMS and disable it to avoid racking up charges. I don't use data either, wifi only. I am in a wifi area 90% of my day.
How many people have there data network turned off via power menu because they dont have a data plan for the vibrant?
If you turned them off then i dont think you will be able to send a picture message(mms).
Ive had this problem and i just found out today that if you turn this on you will be able to send picture messages.
This might only apply to a small amount of people.
So all you have to do is turn on your data network via power menu and you might possibly send mms.( If you have this problem)
I guess for some reason you need data network to be on to be able to send mms?
EDIT: This might work with other phones too. Worked on the HD2 for tmobile.
It's not a fix...you can't send mms on wifi.
edit: you can send and be charged for data.
aaronhiep said:
How many people have there data network turned off via power menu because they dont have a data plan for the vibrant?
If you turned them off then i dont think you will be able to send a picture message(mms).
Ive had this problem and i just found out today that if you turn this on you will be able to send picture messages.
This might only apply to a small amount of people.
So all you have to do is turn on your data network via power menu and you might possibly send mms.( If you have this problem)
I guess for some reason you need data network to be on to be able to send mms?
EDIT: This might work with other phones too. Worked on the HD2 for tmobile.
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I toggle my data on and off for battery purposes and if I try to send an mms on just wifi, it hangs and hangs. Turn off the wifi and turn on the mobile data and the mms goes right through. Strange but it seems to work. Thanks for the post
Same here. I can send text only messages on Wifi. But if I have an attached picture it will not go thru. I have to turn the Wifi off and then the picture and text message will go thru.
Download super power app from market. It will turn data off when phone sleeps.
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have unlimited data plan worth it to me
I use unlimited data with only 200 minutes of talk. Because I have a work cell too, I only use like 6 or 7 minutes a month of my 200.
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have unlimited data plan worth it to me
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Same. I have a previous Android Unlimited data plan that might not be available anymore? For $20. Not entirely sure but I heard that other than the $10/200mb plan there are $25/$30 Unlimited data plans.
You welcome guys and i also do the same as faith5x5. I wonder if theres a work around to sending mms if the datas off?
On my S8+ I noticed this was the case too around November or so, and I am still seeing it on my S10+ too. Used to be able to send MMS (with mobile data completely turned OFF) over wifi, but now it needs mobile data. Anyone else? Whether on Sprint or TMo
JoeFCaputo113 said:
On my S8+ I noticed this was the case too around November or so, and I am still seeing it on my S10+ too. Used to be able to send MMS (with mobile data completely turned OFF) over wifi, but now it needs mobile data. Anyone else? Whether on Sprint or TMo
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By definition, MMS needs mobile data. It shouldn't be possible to send any MMS on any phone with mobile data enabled. If it worked before, the phone probably automatically enabled the connection just to send the message
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On my S8+ I noticed this was the case too around November or so, and I am still seeing it on my S10+ too. Used to be able to send MMS (with mobile data completely turned OFF) over wifi, but now it needs mobile data. Anyone else? Whether on Sprint or TMo
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Usually to get around the issue, you have to send one MMS via mobile data, then after that it should work. If I remember correctly. Something to do with verification for the initial send.
I can't speak to TMobile or Sprint, but I have MMS working over WiFi on Verizon prepaid. I know it isn't using data because I have 0 bars at my house. MMS over WiFi did not, however, work for me on Cricket. Do you have WiFi calling enabled? If not, I think I needed to do that first (this requires a data connection to initiate). Good luck!
I have an unlocked S10 on Consumer Cellular with an AT&T sim and I've noticed that I can completely disable data and send MMS also. I knew I had working wifi calling but never tried MMS until this post.
Been on Sprint since 2008. MMS uses data, never been able to use it with WiFi......
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I just switched over from an s9 to the s10 on Sprint. Was able to receive mms while talking on the phone as long as I had WiFi. I'm not sure why some people don't believe this works. Now I am trying to figure out how to make it work again.
I am tmobile I notice MMS and text will send on wifi if I have bars of service if I am in dead zone and no service wifi only will not send.
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I am tmobile I notice MMS and text will send on wifi if I have bars of service if I am in dead zone and no service wifi only will not send.
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Yep, THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. If you have no service/no mobile data, MMS will not send. It used to back on my S8+, but then recently also stopped on my S8+ and continued to not work on the S10+.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
Yep, THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. If you have no service/no mobile data, MMS will not send. It used to back on my S8+, but then recently also stopped on my S8+ and continued to not work on the S10+.
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You might have a point i always had service up until getting moved to a new spot at work in December. I know it does not matter if there is data or not. It matters service. Good luck and I hope for my sake too u find a fix lol.