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Does the touch hd work on AT&T network?? 3g or edge

Please let me know if it works on AT&T..
Thanks.

this has been covered ad nauseum. Learn to use the search function. The t8282 will work for gsm, you will only get edge no 3g
if you get the t8285, and are on the att network in a market where they offer 3g on the 850mhz band, then you'll get 3g, otherwise only edge.
Other gsm operators in the US you won't get 3g, only edge on either model.

As mentioned U need the t8285 for usa 3g...what carrier do U have now?

The Telstra Next G versions will work on HSDPA with AT&T. So if you can source one of these from here, go for it

topher1976 said:
The Telstra Next G versions will work on HSDPA with AT&T. So if you can source one of these from here, go for it
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IF ATT uses the 850mhz band in your market.

DRTigerlilly said:
IF ATT uses the 850mhz band in your market.
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The AT&T UMTS850 network is the same as Telstra's Next G network in Australia.

topher1976 said:
The AT&T UMTS850 network is the same as Telstra's Next G network in Australia.
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Yes but ATT doesn't use the 850 band in all places in the US, though they are trying to move to the band, you'll want to check what band they use for 3g in your area & if not already rolled out, if there are plans to.

HD2 and Nexus One on T-Mobile USA ???

Given the poor 3G coverage on T-Mobile in the US, why would two powerful phones such as the Nexus One and HD2 be relegated there? It is as if they are sabotoging themselves by being on T-Mob. (This paragraph was rhetorical).
My X1i is on it's last leg (screen blank in landscape and microphone not working) and I want to replace it. Currently, HD2 is the only thing that is appealing. I think I am going to hack one of the overseas models to work on 850MHz 3G on AT&T and forego waiting for the T-Mob model. Thanks XDA.
Hopefully, someone will make a step-by-step sticky on how to get the HD2 working on AT&T 3G USA.

1. Hard-SPL
2. Flash custom ROM
3. Insert SIM
That's what I did to get it working on Telus' 850mhz 3G. I remember the dude who made the huge thread about being the first in the US with a T9193 saying it was similarly easy.
If you just put your AT&T SIM in, you'll be able to send/receive texts, and make calls, but Telstra has the data connection settings locked down pretty heavily in the stock ROM...

OK, yeah, I was just looking through some of that thread. I thought it said something about changing or not changing radios. Is this already taken care of inside the custom ROMs ?

WhyBe said:
OK, yeah, I was just looking through some of that thread. I thought it said something about changing or not changing radios. Is this already taken care of inside the custom ROMs ?
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As far as I know you don't need to change the radio.
I didn't have to.

Great, thanks.
What type of price did you get? I see them from less than $700 to more than $900.

WhyBe said:
Given the poor 3G coverage on T-Mobile in the US, why would two powerful phones such as the Nexus One and HD2 be relegated there? It is as if they are sabotoging themselves by being on T-Mob. (This paragraph was rhetorical).
My X1i is on it's last leg (screen blank in landscape and microphone not working) and I want to replace it. Currently, HD2 is the only thing that is appealing. I think I am going to hack one of the overseas models to work on 850MHz 3G on AT&T and forego waiting for the T-Mob model. Thanks XDA.
Hopefully, someone will make a step-by-step sticky on how to get the HD2 working on AT&T 3G USA.
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if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software

hoss_n2 said:
if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
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Thanks, however, that wasn't the question. It was already answered above.
Thanks all

hoss_n2 said:
if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
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WhyBe said:
Thanks, however, that wasn't the question. It was already answered above.
Thanks all
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You need to make sure that the HD2 you buy has HSPA/WCDMA 850 MHz (not just GSM 850 MHz), because most do not.

harolds said:
You need to make sure that the HD2 you buy has HSPA/WCDMA 850 MHz (not just GSM 850 MHz), because most do not.
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Yes, based on what I am reading, getting the Telstra model with 850MHz 3G band should be compatible with 850MHz 3G AT&T in the U.S.
The designated-"U.S." model is designed for T-Mobile 3G (1700MHz or 2100MHz)

WhyBe said:
(1700MHz AND 2100MHz)
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I fixed that for you -- phones won't work on T-Mobile 3G without BOTH 1700 and 2100.

Will T-Mobile HD2 work on AT&T 3G?

I've read that the European HD2 (T8585) runs 3G on 900 and 2100.
I've also read that the Australian HD2 runs 3G on 850 and 2100.
AT&T appears to offer 3G on 850 and 1900, which is why the European model does not run 3G on AT&T, but the Australian version does.
What frequencies does T-Mobile offer 3G service on, and will EITHER the Euro or the Aussie version of the HD2 operate on T-Mobile?
Also, will the new T-Mobile HD2 work on AT&T's 3G frequencies?
I've tried to figure this out from posts and the wiki, but can't. Can someone please dispel my confusion? THANKS!

European version can select
frequents:
GSM : (900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM : (1900+850)
UMTS : (2100+900)
networktype:
Auto
GSM
WCDMA

No sorry
Unfortunately no, because T-Mobile uses 1700Mhz
Check out the T-Mobile HD2 here

glitzbd said:
Unfortunately no, because T-Mobile uses 1700Mhz
Check out the T-Mobile HD2 here
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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but according to T-mobiles site, it will support 850 and 1900 which are at&t's bands right? http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-HD2

dlphnkiller said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but according to T-mobiles site, it will support 850 and 1900 which are at&t's bands right? http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-HD2
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but that's gsm not umts

dlphnkiller said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but according to T-mobiles site, it will support 850 and 1900 which are at&t's bands right? http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-HD2
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those are edge bands, it will work on at&t edge but not 3g

Wrong thread

Flash rom = AT&T 3G
j23a45m said:
those are edge bands, it will work on at&t edge but not 3g
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I thought if you flash the rom, you can get AT&T 3G.

a_ok2me said:
I thought if you flash the rom, you can get AT&T 3G.
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No, absolutely not.
The radio inside the TMo HD2 will never work with AT&T's 3G bands. It will work with AT&T's EDGE service, but nothing faster.

any chance to flash radio , and get it done...... a mean make it work?????

zoom4zam said:
any chance to flash radio , and get it done...... a mean make it work?????
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Nope. It's a hardware thing, not a software fix.

T-mobile's US HD2 works on 2100 MHz 3G in Europe?

Hi,
The official specs of T-mobile's HD2 says that the supported 3G bands are: WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
Does it mean it will work on European 2100 MHz 3G too? Nexus one does so I suspect HD2 could too but as far as I could digg nobody had a straight answer to this question yet.
-AlefSin

actually i asked HTC CS before, and the answer is NO!
european countries WCDMA frequencies are the same with ASIAN countries. So no chance for European countries either.

hmmm I don't know JohnQ. In your attached email HTC is saying China's frequencies are different from the rest of the world so how do you say it's the same as Europe? I don't know much about 3G network in China though.

Just a few weeks back it was annoounced that the US operators had all signed up to migrating to the rest of the wold's GSM standards!
So in time we will all be singing from the same hymn sheet!

Accoridng to Wikipedia, while 3G in China is using the same frequencies as Europe in UMTS-I band, the air interface is different (TD-SCDMA vs TD-CDMA).
(sorry, cannot link to the docs since as junior member cannot embed links yet).

pa49 said:
Just a few weeks back it was annoounced that the US operators had all signed up to migrating to the rest of the wold's GSM standards!
So in time we will all be singing from the same hymn sheet!
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Wow, that's... odd! It seems US operators cannot even agree whinin US and now they all want to use the rest of world's standards! That's so un-american!

At&T, rogers, etc are all using european 3G frequencies, which is why you can use device from europe on their networks.
T-mobile US uses 1700 & 2100 (one for up stream, one for downstream) which is why it won't work on at&t etc or european frequencies.
The t-mobile 3G phones use both 1700 and 2100 at the same time; and they cant use 2100 seperately on other networks.

erm att uses 850/1900,and very few operators use the same,none in Europe use these bands

alefsin said:
hmmm I don't know JohnQ. In your attached email HTC is saying China's frequencies are different from the rest of the world so how do you say it's the same as Europe? I don't know much about 3G network in China though.
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you can check though. google it

Yes it does!
alefsin said:
Hi,
The official specs of T-mobile's HD2 says that the supported 3G bands are: WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
Does it mean it will work on European 2100 MHz 3G too? Nexus one does so I suspect HD2 could too but as far as I could digg nobody had a straight answer to this question yet.
-AlefSin
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I've tested mine on a 3G only network (2100mhz) and it works fine. What I mean by "only" is that the Digi Mobil in Romania works only on 2100Mhz.
I hope it helps!
GG

JohnQ said:
you can check though. google it
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I did, check post #5

Well, it seems the answer is negative. I asked HTC:
Hi, I'm very excited about HTC HD2 on T-Mobile USA. However there is a cruicial question taht I could not find an answer for yet: Should I get this phone, when I travel to Europe, can I use 3G? The specs say this phone will support AWS/2100 MHz UMTS. Since the 2100 MHz is the dominant frequency for western european 3G networks, does it mean this phone would work on their 3G networks? Nobody at T-mobile's support could answer me so I hope you could solve this mystery.
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And they answered:
Thank you for contacting HTC Technical Assistance Center. I understand the importance in researching a phone before you purchase it. This is a unusual situation and one T-mobile may not have been experienced with. For T-mobiles network the phone will be using the 1700 and 2100 bands. Although the 2100 band is common world wide. allowing the phone to pick up the edge network. T-mobile uses the 1700 for there 3G services. This band as far as we are aware is only used by T-mobile when it comes to major carriers world wide. More then likely the phone would not be able to pick up 3g if taken over seas.
However. T-mobile dose have a few branches in Europe. You may wish to check with them to see what bands they use for 3G, and if they have had any conflicts with American phones.
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wmfreak said:
I've tested mine on a 3G only network (2100mhz) and it works fine. What I mean by "only" is that the Digi Mobil in Romania works only on 2100Mhz.
I hope it helps!
GG
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But T-mobile's HD2 is not out yet! Are you sure you didn't test European HD2?

OK things are starting to get weird. I received a negative answer from HTC's customer support but then I found USA T-mobile G1 users that reported their phones were working on 2100 MHz 3G in Europe (G1 like US T-mobile version of HD2 only supports 1700/2100 MHz 3G). I need to buy a phone and these contradictory reports leave me confused

Here is what T-mobile says in the specs sheet of the new HD2:
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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Isn't it interesting that 2100 Mhz is listed both separately and in with combintaion with 1700 Mhz?

JohnQ said:
actually i asked HTC CS before, and the answer is NO!
european countries WCDMA frequencies are the same with ASIAN countries. So no chance for European countries either.
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nice email address you have in that picture John

I tested my unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Sweden using 3's network and worked like a charm in 3G

Bit of a bump here as I'm trying to use my unlocked US T-Mobile HD2 with Orange in France and I can't do better than Edge (it went down to GPRS at one point...). I guess it could come down to spotty reception but I do get 3G speeds in my current location with an iPhone 3GS so I'm not so sure...
I'm using the AmericanAndroid ROM, maybe that's why my speed is throttled ;-)

I am using HD2 T-mobile in Serbia and i have no problem with conection or data speed.
I was on vacation and i didnt use Wifi ,and i used the phone all the time on 3G - the 3G network is incredibly fast, I even think that it is twice as fast as the EU HD2, which I used before..

Thanks, will check again then, maybe bad reception then!

International legend on rogers 3g not working?

Hey everyone i was just wondering if it's possible for me to get 3g working on my legend. It is an international legend and I am on rogers canada network. Any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated.

I don't think it will work. The international version uses a different band (900/2100) I believe.

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I don't think it will work. The international version uses a different band (900/2100) I believe.
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Thanks for the reply... the back of the box says this:
Network - HSPA/WCDMA (900/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) Which is what i thought rogers was.

Rogers GSM network operates on the frequencies of 850/1900 MHz so your 3g should work. Are you running stock rom or a custom rom? Do you know if your phone is rooted? If it's rooted and or you are running a custom rom then make sure your are running the last radio for your device..

Rogers uses 850/1900 HSPA bands not 900/2100 HSPA bands.
You will only get EDGE data.

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Rogers uses 850/1900 HSPA bands not 900/2100 HSPA bands.
You will only get EDGE data.
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Hmm that's a shame... would you happen to know if it could be used on any other networks with 3g? like wind?

JMAC323GT said:
Hmm that's a shame... would you happen to know if it could be used on any other networks with 3g? like wind?
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WIND uses 1700 AWS frequency, no providers in Canada use those two frequencies (and god knows why NCIX and other stores are selling the European version to Canadians.) You should really read up on these things before buying a phone.

yeah thanks... i was never told it was an international phone.