can anyone tell me how they the streaming is on the N1 when using edge network. I like pandora, and it seems to work ok on my touch pro when in edge land, but am just wondering in general how the streaming is on the N1. IE internet radio, youtube, pandora...
On edge, youtube buffers for a while before playing, and it's certainly not high-def, but it usually plays all videos without pausing once it finishes the initial buffer. I've used Pandora, Last.fm, imeem, and others I can't remember, and streaming on them is flawless on edge. All this was on a G1, but I imagine the Nexus has to perform at least as well.
Pandora does great on edge. Frankly I'm not too disappointed about the lack of AT&T 3g. Even net surfing hasn't been bad. With WIFI at the house and such I'm not really worried.
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Great forum,
I was wondering if anyone else is able to stream shoutcast or similar in the US using the kjam? In the denver area, I can barely stream 56Kbit streams, as they have to buffer all the time. Occasionally I can stream a 128Kbit stream for an hour or more. I upgraded my 6315 ipaq (among other reasons) to make use of the supposed Edge data rates.
I have tried GSPlayer, TCMP, Resco Radio, and others. None of the prebuffering options seem to help significantly. It seems logical to me that even over GPRS speeds, I should be able to buffer enough that it should only hiccup once a .5 hour or so. Resco Radio seems to work the best, yet it has the least buffer tweak options.
Any advise?
Thanks!
pterodyne said:
Great forum,
I was wondering if anyone else is able to stream shoutcast or similar in the US using the kjam? In the denver area, I can barely stream 56Kbit streams, as they have to buffer all the time. Occasionally I can stream a 128Kbit stream for an hour or more. I upgraded my 6315 ipaq (among other reasons) to make use of the supposed Edge data rates.
I have tried GSPlayer, TCMP, Resco Radio, and others. None of the prebuffering options seem to help significantly. It seems logical to me that even over GPRS speeds, I should be able to buffer enough that it should only hiccup once a .5 hour or so. Resco Radio seems to work the best, yet it has the least buffer tweak options.
Any advise?
Thanks!
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eb said:
pterodyne said:
Great forum,
I was wondering if anyone else is able to stream shoutcast or similar in the US using the kjam? In the denver area, I can barely stream 56Kbit streams, as they have to buffer all the time. Occasionally I can stream a 128Kbit stream for an hour or more. I upgraded my 6315 ipaq (among other reasons) to make use of the supposed Edge data rates.
I have tried GSPlayer, TCMP, Resco Radio, and others. None of the prebuffering options seem to help significantly. It seems logical to me that even over GPRS speeds, I should be able to buffer enough that it should only hiccup once a .5 hour or so. Resco Radio seems to work the best, yet it has the least buffer tweak options.
Any advise?
Thanks!
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Interested int this too. Just discovered Shoutcast today and I'm in love, but the pauses/speed is irritating. Any fixes?
Well...I've noticed something concerning streaming audio to my device (Cingular 8125) over EDGE. Unless I use the 'dialup' servers it won't work. I decided to do a speed test at bandwithplace.com and I discovered that even in places where I had 4 full bars and complete EDGE coverage I still only got results of about 100 kbps +/- 10kbps. So I've been somewhat limited in where I can listen to most streams. Imagine my surprise when I learned (today searching that same website) that EDGE is actually rated for 384 kbps! If my home broadband service (rated at 6 mbps) suddenly only worked at 2mbps I'd be angry. Well after venting a bit, does anyone here know if this speed is a limitation of the hardware/software or a bottleneck in the network itself?
I don't know much about the technical issues but my understanding is that EDGE works using multiple channels or timeslots which aggregated together would give you the theoretical maximum of 384. If the network you are connected to has much voice traffic then voice channels take priority and the slots available to your data would reduce and consequently the throughput. There is also the potential that a network may not allocate the full EDGE service but throttle the number of channels available to you on the system giving you a lower maximum rate evn when the network is fully available.
So far my experiences have been such that I have given up on streaming audio through my kjam over EGDE. From an email or browsing perspective GPRS seemed just as fast, although the speed tests seemed to indicate a higher throughput. It's a good thing the Tmo in Denver Isn't charging more for EDGE over GPRS or I'd be angry!
My experience has been that using Orb I can stream video from my home PC with little problem other than the occassional pause (makes those long meetings tolerable ;-)
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I was using Shoutcast thru TCPMP again and this time, I seemed to be getting a better GPRS signal, resulting in a stream of music (same station as before) that lasted about 10 minutes without a hiccup, and then about another 10 more without another break. It was fantastic! Using shoutcast thru TCPMP has been the best experience I've had with internet radio to this point....
If so whats the speed for Web Browsing and Youtube?
Im getting an HD2 and am going to be using ATT, obviously no 3G, so just wondering.
I do, in Czech Republic, T-Mobile. Web is fine. Youtube with low-resolution is fine, but the quality sucks. Google maps are usable, but streetview is very slow.
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I do, in Czech Republic, T-Mobile. Web is fine. Youtube with low-resolution is fine, but the quality sucks. Google maps are usable, but streetview is very slow.
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Thanks! You say Youtube on low, will it even play on Hi-res? Or just take a while to load?
EDGE = about 25kB/s max. Do the calculations yourself
It's fine for light pages and such, but a heavy webpage (1MB) takes easily 40sec to load, a youtube video in HQ several minutes. Consider Opera Mini for brosing, their compression is very efficient and speeds up things a lot.
Compression can be turned on in both opera 10 and opera 9.7. In opera 10 it's in the settings menu, in 9.7 you have to go to about:config and search for 'turbo'.
Just for comparison, you said edge= 25 k/b max.
what would 3G be??
I am on T-Mobile's Edge and it is almost impossible to watch streaming video on Edge. I will be upgrading to T-Mobile US HD2 once HSPL will work on it so I can use 3G.
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Hi kevin, I think we talked before? I love hd2, & I only get edge. I had hd before, it was nice, but this hd2 is great, even on edge. I watch youtube on skyfire, not bad at all. I use google, accuweather, Igo8, Google maps, all work great. I had no choice, no 3g here. Tmobile is almost no signal at all here! Quig,, From Htchd2 forum
I only use EDGE on the ATT network. I have no problem browsing the web, and Youtube seem to log quickly. It's definitely not 3G, but it's good enough for me .
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I only use EDGE on the ATT network. I have no problem browsing the web, and Youtube seem to log quickly. It's definitely not 3G, but it's good enough for me .
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Do you watch youtube with youtube app, or different browser? My youtube app is like nonworking? I have to use skyfire? lmk please,
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Just for comparison, you said edge= 25 k/b max.
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About 200kB/s here. Results in same experience than when you're on wifi.
EDGE is still very useable though especially if you have opera Mini / turbo mode. I sometimes switch to EDGE only when moving as I'll go in/out of 3G coverage repeatedly with many switches/dropouts, and it's fine. The biggest annoyance here before we had 3G is that the edge network would often clog, and as calls have priority sometimes you simply couldn't do anything for 5 mins, had to wait for the load to lighten.
I installed skyfire and also tried some flash websites on IE since it does have flash support and while watching videos flash seems to be real choppy. I think it's due to the slowness of the buffering, but I have 4-5 bars on 3G so just wondering if its the browser or connection. Anyone have a fix to make the flash playback more responsive thanks.
Have you tried it using wifi?
What are the results?
No I haven't tried it yet, but I will definitely do that. I was kinda hoping I'd see better results with 3g, but I guess I was presumptuous.
I tried it with wifi and yet the video is still slow and choppy. It's almost like having a computer that can't handle a program so it starts buffering and bugging out. I don't have anything else running and I have hooked up it to wifi as well and let the video load before watching still is choppy and goes crazy. I have tried it with skyfire is it true that the ie has flash support just not for all sites and does opera have some flash support? Basically I only ask because I want to go to streaming sites for movies sports etc. Thanks
The problem with flash and skyfire is its not optimized for mobile browsing. So its going to have issues. I hope the update the browser to what they released for android it doesnt actually play the video in the browser but does a popout window to play content which seems a lot better.
The crazy thing is i've seen people demo the skyfire browser on youtube and it worked perfectly crazy. Is there any other alternative to getting a better flash experience on our phone until Adobe officially releases full flash support? Mostly I'm trying to use sites like justin to watch programs and they all require flash.
i tried many ways to use skyfire, but still no well progress, its buffering rate is slow, whether u using wifi or 3g, it has a unique connection with the server, if that server is slow(having too much load) then ur browser gona be goofy.
I know there are some apps listed in market that allow live streaming but non of them seem to work. For example Fox News has an app for live radio, it installs OK but when running it it just sits there and I never get any sound.
Also trying some radio stations websites I never get the live streaming to work, even trying multiple browsers (Opera, Dolphin, SkyFire and built in one).
Anyone have any luck trying the above?
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I'm using TuneIn Radio app. Has all my local stations in CD quality and works well. Although it does take a while for the streams to load.
Also since I flashed JK1 firmware, I can now go on to all my favourite sites and use the built-in flash players. Maybe it's something to do with the firmware?
You beat me to it I just installed Tunein..and yes it works great! A little issue on the buffering (and I'm in a great reception area too) but other than that its a great app!
I have the JK5 flashed to my tab at the moment (ATT Tab with working phone in US) so that may be part of the reason.
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yes I don't know why it takes so long to buffer but once it kicks in, mine plays without any issues.
Also just noticed it has alarm wakeup function in the menu, so you can specify a time and it will start playing your favourite station to wake you up
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While streaming this will this eat into my Sprint 2gb plan ?
Thanks...
Is there a service that can cache music to my SD card while I'm on wifi instead of eating up my 3G plan?
I know Slacker can do this, but they charge for that feature (I think).
Anyone else tried the new Google Movies in the marketplace yet?
I gave it a go last night just to see how well it streamed. I have the Wi-Fi only Xoom and tethered it through my G2 on T-Mobiles HSPA Network.
Overall the experience was kind of sour. The movie played for about 30 mins before it stopped to "buffer." The bigger problem was audio and video was WAYYY off after about 36 minute mark. It was a good 10 secs apart at some points. Took it home on my wireless network just to make sure the T-mobile network wasn't the problem and i had the same problem there!
Anyone else experience the same problem?
Edit:Streaming from my computer was flawless though. It seems to the same problem most video players experience when playing movies on the xoom.
I dont even know where to find the movies. I can see them on the site, but where do I find them on my XOOM?
market.android.com in the browser