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Would it be any easier using a moment dump to help compile some sprint specific stuff since the moment runs a vanilla android to get things ready for a 2.0 upgrade?
Are you referring to a 2.0 upgrade of Moment or Hero?
Both phones are running 1.5 so I am not sure what we would be able to get from the Moment.
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Would it be any easier using a moment dump to help compile some sprint specific stuff since the moment runs a vanilla android to get things ready for a 2.0 upgrade?
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hero has vanilla too, just runs senseUI by default
BrianDigital said:
Would it be any easier using a moment dump to help compile some sprint specific stuff since the moment runs a vanilla android to get things ready for a 2.0 upgrade?
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As kcarpenter said, we aren't trying to take a 1.5 rom and make it 2.x. We have a GSM 2.x rom that we're trying to make work on a CDMA phone with a kernel that doesn't exist for us.
sorry, I meant for specific apk for sprint since htc hacked up stuff to get cdma to work and so on, but nevermind
Good thought, never hold back on ideas. The more ideas and thoughts that are put out here on these forums gives people like flipz more opportunities to create bigger better things. Who knows, you may say something that puts everyone on the right track to fixing this 2.1 data issue.
@flipz - I always thought kernels just magically appeared. No luck with this one? Maybe we should find a corn farmer...wow that was a bad pun.
Are you 100% sure this is a kernel issue? I was just doing some research on the RIL and it seem that would certainly hold the keys to enable data and such. I've been looking up from my phone so my knowledge is limited since I haven't been home since tues.
So if we can write a Sprint specific RIL then we'd be looking pretty good. Or is the issue that the RIL is compiled into the kernel itself.
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Are you 100% sure this is a kernel issue? I was just doing some research on the RIL and it seem that would certainly hold the keys to enable data and such. I've been looking up from my phone so my knowledge is limited since I haven't been home since tues.
So if we can write a Sprint specific RIL then we'd be looking pretty good. Or is the issue that the RIL is compiled into the kernel itself.
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I think I recall reading that the RIL is in the kernel. I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong.
Darn manufacturers keep messing us over. Moment with the jacked up file system so Root stuff won't work but they release source (minus RFS stuff required to get the real goodies working). HERO with no kernel but it seems like everything else is inline.
Ok, so I was going a lot of playing around with my phone last night. On the scale of hacking, I am not even in the same realm as the skilled folks here. I tinker with things now and then... and sometimes I get ideas... like now.
So, my EVO is setup to work with my corp exchange server for work emails. I noticed that under Settings / Security / Select Device Administrators, the exchange security policy is in there. This section also seems to suggest that you can "add / remove" but it appears to only allow removal from the UI.
Then I got to some more thinking... an app essentially installed itself and granted itself this right. Why cant we study what that app is doing a do something similar? Or at a minimum, exploit those very roles that are already there on the device?
Am I even thinking along the right lines? Or am I way off?
Makes sense to me but I'm also a novice but good contribution dude. Maybe it could get the ball rolling on this thing.
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Joeriginal said:
Makes sense to me but I'm also a novice but good contribution dude. Maybe it could get the ball rolling on this thing.
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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Come on, you know that's not true. The reason people get crap for asking about rooting 2.2 is that the info and answers are all already here on the front pages.
But I like that people are still thinking and suggesting like the OP. That's how things are going to keep moving.
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
now we just need a hacker
So... thanks for the chime-ins on the idea. I thought it was a good one too. I am curious now to see what one of the big hackers has to say about it. Knowing my luck, it would be a squashed dream.
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Come on, you know that's not true. The reason people get crap for asking about rooting 2.2 is that the info and answers are all already here on the front pages.
But I like that people are still thinking and suggesting like the OP. That's how things are going to keep moving.
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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Hummm "crap" to "veal" I love it you know what some developer thinks of veal LOL
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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That's the main reason I check in daily too...
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Not bad......
Just had an idea ( warning I am a noob.) So the previews exploit was found by running flash. If any developer can create an app and install the old flash to allow the old exploit. Then this will allow us to flash.
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Ok, so I was going a lot of playing around with my phone last night. On the scale of hacking, I am not even in the same realm as the skilled folks here. I tinker with things now and then... and sometimes I get ideas... like now.
So, my EVO is setup to work with my corp exchange server for work emails. I noticed that under Settings / Security / Select Device Administrators, the exchange security policy is in there. This section also seems to suggest that you can "add / remove" but it appears to only allow removal from the UI.
Then I got to some more thinking... an app essentially installed itself and granted itself this right. Why cant we study what that app is doing a do something similar? Or at a minimum, exploit those very roles that are already there on the device?
Am I even thinking along the right lines? Or am I way off?
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Not to burst your bubble or anything, but I'm pretty sure this is mostly related to corporate security so that IT can lock the phone down even more than carriers/manufacturers do. Think stuff like not being able to install apps, email restrictions, password management, etc.
Breaking this security feature will at most give you the access non-corporate users enjoy with their unrooted phones.
I'm sure there are plenty of dev's looking for exploits on a daily basis. No need to get peoples hopes up early is why there isn't much talk about it. Same reason people get dumped on for asking on a daily basis. If there was one found already it would be posted so quit asking sort of issue.
I like the thoughts though.
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Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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Just had an idea ( warning I am a noob.) So the previews exploit was found by running flash. If any developer can create an app and install the old flash to allow the old exploit. Then this will allow us to flash.
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I asked same thing other day... They said that htc closed thee flash exploit and reverting to an older version won't be able to access that same exploit since they closed and patched thee exploit
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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To further derail this thread, this "easter egg" is actually a feature from Google, the reasoning being that is probably better to send a nonsensical word over a swear word in case you didn't actually mean to write the swear word.
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To further derail this thread, this "easter egg" is actually a feature from Google, the reasoning being that is probably better to send a nonsensical word over a swear word in case you didn't actually mean to write the swear word.
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Still derailing I understand what your saying as you are probably correct, its just funny how they related crap to veal...as you know lots of people don't approve of veal, so the code writer must be one of them...there are so many different words they could have chosen..just funny that's all! Done with the derail, back on this exhausted topic
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Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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Sorry... I hate to be off topic, but this sparked a memory. I was sending my wife a txt a couple weeks ago and I can't remember the word I was typing, but it was definitely a legitimate word--no reason for Android to mess with it anyway. It effectively turned that word into "gay"...go figure.
Like sk63 said, that just relates to the Exchange admin role. Nothing to do with root access on the device.
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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OK -
V is to the right of C
E is to the left of R
A is the same as A
L is left under P
I hope this puts an end to this veal crap!
ok, back to topic
So, for the point about exchange administration... I am aware of what it is used for... since I myself am a user of it. My point was that it has administrative power over the phone since it can perform a wipe (among other highly privileged tasks)... so the idea was to try and use that system somehow to exploit.
I also liked the thinking behind installing old flash. That is at least a good question. One that I would love to hear the answer to.
Any time I spell Uber it tries to write ubersexual lol
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I'm sure there are plenty of dev's looking for exploits on a daily basis. No need to get peoples hopes up early is why there isn't much talk about it. Same reason people get dumped on for asking on a daily basis. If there was one found already it would be posted so quit asking sort of issue.
I like the thoughts though.
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Wow! So (1) we aren't allowed to make any kind of new thread about 2.2 and rooting and (2) we can't share ideas about possible exploits, at least not in your presence.
I gotta say, kick me, kill me, put me on probation, but you are truly one GIANT ASS. Who put you on that high horse? What an Asshole. Hey, what prompted you to open this thread? Was it to review some interesting literature tied to an intriguing title, or did you open it knowing full well when you clicked that you were going to scroll to the bottom and post the most close-minded, rude, obtrusive comment you could think of?
I've been looking for answers for a while now, but can't come up with anything...
Every MMS that is sent or received from my phone has all the files in it renamed ie: imagejpeg_3 or text_2 or whatnot. Has anyone ever come across this before? And if so, how do i stop it?
Oh, it is a sprint branded Snap, currently running the stock rom. I've also tried ookba's 3vo but got the same issue
Ouch. 150 people, and no one even has a suggestion? Oh well, I figured it was something i would have to live with anyway
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Ouch. 150 people, and no one even has a suggestion?
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Yeah I've noticed this forum isn't exactly the most active too...lol. I've asked ?? and got no answer and well over 100 something views.
I figure either it's a new problem and no one's run into it or they're busy with other stuff...lol.
Since I'm tenacious by nature usually I end up solving my own issues anyways...lol.
I can't help you with your prob but I can sympathize with ya!
Take care and I hope ya figure it out.
Well, there's something to be said for self-reliance and learning new things as you go I'm still playing with it, and hopefully i figure it out eventually lol
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Well, there's something to be said for self-reliance and learning new things as you go I'm still playing with it, and hopefully i figure it out eventually lol
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I completely agree, but when one needs help usually it's because they're at their witt's end...lol. I myself managed to hack the .xml and .cpr files for the t-mo dash 3g's "T-Mobile default" panel homescreen without help. Since I have a background in skinning I had an idea of what to look for with the xml tags, but if you're a beginner it's not easy to locate things if you don't know what to look for.
What I want is to figure out a way to design my own system wide skins for winmo 6.5 standard. I have all the skinning and graphics knowledge but only minimal coding skills. Even if there were a way to reverse engineer a skin I'd do it if someone would be willing to guide me in the right direction. I'll prolly post a help thread asking about it. dunno if it'd be a waste of time or not so....
This is alittle thing that really spoiled me and kept everything on my phone nice and organized. When i had the moto droid and i was using bugless beast pete came up with a script that when you turned the phone it would automatically overclock your phone and the phone its self would adjust its self according to the situation. I dont really like using set cpu and would love to see a developer integrate something like this into our roms.
Maybe it could turn into a popsicle when you turned it? Sounds like something you would be into.
no....its just one of those things that made a rom feel alot more complete and run smoother. It just seems like every so often i have to reopen set cpu because android closed it
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Maybe it could turn into a popsicle when you turned it? Sounds like something you would be into.
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Why was this post even necessary? Just seems spiteful. To the OP, that was a nice feature, one less process in the startup and background running.
That script did nothing that setcpu will not.
And before you say, well setcpu makes my phone unstable--a script like that would do the same.
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Why was this post even necessary? Just seems spiteful. To the OP, that was a nice feature, one less process in the startup and background running.
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Its necessary because everyone wants things handed to them on a silver platter. You can't have everything done for you.
A script to automatically overclock..want me to flash the rom for you too?
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Its necessary because everyone wants things handed to them on a silver platter. You can't have everything done for you.
A script to automatically overclock..want me to flash the rom for you too?
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So suggestions on how to improve a ROM are really just lazyness on the part of the person who thought of it?
Could have provided a simple explanation instead of being a jerk about it.
No wonder XDA gets the reputation that it does with Posts like that.
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So suggestions on how to improve a ROM are really just lazyness on the part of the person who thought of it?
Could have provided a simple explanation instead of being a jerk about it.
No wonder XDA gets the reputation that it does with Posts like that.
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There are already apps readily available in the app market that do that.
Regardless of all the arguing, this is in the wrong section.
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There are already apps readily available in the app market that do that.
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Then point him in that direction, there is no need to flex your e-go. Maturity is evaporating at such a quick pace in this board.
There's way too much flaming goin on up in dis piece - someone call the fire department! Or the Ohio Players (heh heh)
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
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Then point him in that direction, there is no need to flex your e-go. Maturity is evaporating at such a quick pace in this board.
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Did you read the OPs post? He mentioned setcpu in it. Why would I direct him when he already knows it exists?
Ive never had to deal with so many jackass's in my life. If you dont like the idea keep your mouth shut. I was just thinking maybe some of you people would appreciate something like this for your phone. As for set cpu....i swear every hour android is killing that process. Dont worry i wont ever suggest anything again if this is the bull**** im gonna get thrown at me.
Yea, I was going to suggest that you ask on irc... But who cares what I think...
Maybe I'm stupid, but what would be the point of having your phone overclock when turned?
Maybe you could try excluding SetCPU from your task killer? I don't run a task killer and the setcpu service has been running for the last 36 hours....
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I dont use a task killer either. Maybe its cause im not using a widget?
I think you're getting flamed because that's exactly what setcpu does. Not sure why it gets killed for you though.
How do you know it is being killed? You know there are more tasks running than the last 6 that the viewer shows, right?
You realize that the system will automatically clock up/down depending on system load. The only reason you'd need setcpu if you're running an OC kernel is if you wanted to run at max speed all the time. If that were the case, you'd kill your battery because you'd be running at the highest voltage level constantly. This script that you want sounds useless for our devices.
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Just saw this over on Google+ and didn't see it posted on here.
We are no longer supporting the Vibrant due to the inability to dial 911. We consider the issues related to this unresolvable without source code from Samsung related to the Radio interface layer and its interactions with the Audio layers and have taken the decision to no longer support this. We apologize for the inconvenience and strongly suggest that Vibrant users use a Samsung ROM due to the 911 issues with any ROMs based on open source code.
-SGS Team/Team Hacksung/Teamdouche​
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Old news
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Bad news...
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Old news
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The 911 issue is old news, but the decision to stop support for the phone specifically stating the reason to be said 911 issue is new.
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I wonder why there hasn't been a fix for it yet. Why not just let us set a location during the initial setup. Seems like an easy fix to me
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The 911 issue is old news, but the decision to stop support for the phone specifically stating the reason to be said 911 issue is new.
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It's old news that they were going to stop support....
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I wonder why there hasn't been a fix for it yet. Why not just let us set a location during the initial setup. Seems like an easy fix to me
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Did you even read the link? They explained why in both the CM7 nightly thread and at the g+ link.
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This is just ****ty news. I wish the was a disclaimer when you download that you have to agree to rather then this...
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its the nice way of saying we are dropping support, they really dont have a good reason considering all that they really need to do is fix button mapping and release it, but since gps doesnt work 100% of the time they basically just said F*** it, thats my take, I'm sure that there will be kernels that are cm9 compatible and then we will just flash an I9000 version of the rom with a button mapped fix.
the best way to do it would be to create an update.zip that has a button fix in it so then we can just flash I9000 roms and then the button mapping fix but we'll see
So the 911 issue is specific to CM7 ROMs and not gingerbread ROMs for Vibrant in general? Do the new ICS ROMs have this problem?
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its the nice way of saying we are dropping support, they really dont have a good reason considering all that they really need to do is fix button mapping and release it, but since gps doesnt work 100% of the time they basically just said F*** it, thats my take, I'm sure that there will be kernels that are cm9 compatible and then we will just flash an I9000 version of the rom with a button mapped fix.
the best way to do it would be to create an update.zip that has a button fix in it so then we can just flash I9000 roms and then the button mapping fix but we'll see
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I am sorry no - it isn't that simple. 911 calls, audio callbacks (and related GPS callbacks) aren't working correctly specifically on the Vibrant due to missing code in the Radio Interface layer and audio stacks. We don't have this code, we are unlikely to ever get this code. This was something we've been trying to fix for a while, and have finally given up. As a lot of other ROMs use our code, we'd rather not have CyanogenMod distributing a ROM that cannot do 911 calls correctly, even with disclaimers. The disclaimers will mean squat if someone actually has to call 911 and we strongly encourage you to stick with Samsung ROMs. Until we can fix this, this is off our supported device list and we are sorry about this.
This came to a head last evening after some unrelated threats, but an actual 911 operator who has been working with us to fix 911 calling made it clear to us just how dangerous this really is if Vibrant cannot do 911 calls, and we made the decision to stop support and remove the device from our supported list.
Yes, others can still build it - but it will not be CyanogenMod that does it. We're sorry about this.
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I am sorry no - it isn't that simple. 911 calls, audio callbacks (and related GPS callbacks) aren't working correctly specifically on the Vibrant due to missing code in the Radio Interface layer and audio stacks. We don't have this code, we are unlikely to ever get this code. This was something we've been trying to fix for a while, and have finally given up. As a lot of other ROMs use our code, we'd rather not have CyanogenMod distributing a ROM that cannot do 911 calls correctly, even with disclaimers. The disclaimers will mean squat if someone actually has to call 911 and we strongly encourage you to stick with Samsung ROMs. Until we can fix this, this is off our supported device list and we are sorry about this.
This came to a head last evening after some unrelated threats, but an actual 911 operator who has been working with us to fix 911 calling made it clear to us just how dangerous this really is if Vibrant cannot do 911 calls, and we made the decision to stop support and remove the device from our supported list.
Yes, others can still build it - but it will not be CyanogenMod that does it. We're sorry about this.
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Atinm you guys did the right thing. I appreciate everything you and everyone else working to bring CM on Vibrant did. However, no rom is worth risking someones life. I applaud you guys for making the right decision. I hope Samsung releases the source needed and we can get CM back on the Vibrant with working 911/GPS.
It may suck for us but its the right thing to do what if someone dies do to this then they could be sued and possibly mental stress on someone who is doing something for fun/free
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Sounds like we all gotta put our heads together and fix the 911 bug
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That's a pretty weak excuse to give up on development. People can add local emergency service numbers to their phone contacts
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That's a pretty weak excuse to give up on development. People can add local emergency service numbers to their phone contacts
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But they don't want to put out product that would put peoples life at risk an vibrant has no source so that makes it even harder so y waste a head ache
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I was just thinking today that it may be time for a new phone... I guess this further suggests that the Vibrant is surely fading away.
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That's a pretty weak excuse to give up on development. People can add local emergency service numbers to their phone contacts
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I disagree. Local numbers don't do jack when you are out of town. To many what-ifs to worry about.
These guys supported our phones LONG after Samsung abandoned us. Credit where credit is due I say.
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That's a pretty weak excuse to give up on development. People can add local emergency service numbers to their phone contacts
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Another point to add is what if you didn't have cell reception? And you were lost in the woods? The only number you can contact is the emergency number which happens to be 911. So if you didn't have the option to call this # you are screwed big time.
I've been trying to research this 911 issue from a user's perspective for the past few days now, but I still have some questions unanswered. If anyone can answer them or point me in the right direction/thread I'd appreciate it.
First of all to reiterate something I learned, the issue isn't that you can't actually dial and connect to a 911 operator. The problem is that they won't be able to hear you and they wouldn't be able to get a GPS lock on your phone. Although I've also heard 911 calling does work for some people in some states.
Anyway, so my question is which specific ROMs actually support 911 calling? Is it JUST the offical stock ROMs? What about Froyo custom ROMs like Bioinix 1.3.1? I read from one Bioinix user that 911 does work, but I'm not sure if they're just guessing. Do these custom Froyo ROMs have this missing Samsung code (I'm guessing all GB ROMs don't)? Thanks!