Is the htc Hero (UK) and the sprint HTC Hero the same phone? from everthing that I've read and seen there not the same phone. True Or Not true
Not the same phone:
1) U.K hero has the "chin" form factor. Sprint Hero does not.
2) They operate on different frequencies and network types. U.K. hero is UMTS/HSDPA and Sprint Hero is EV-DO.
They both run Android with the HTC Sense UI and look act very similar, but are completely incompatible.
So when rooting this phone, Its not the same as the U.K. hero... So does anyone know how to root this phone?
yes...
try www.theunlockr.com
they should have video and instructions
good luck
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Ok ok so I really want this phone but I don't care for the look of the Sprint version here in the states. It's fatter and bland, tacky looking... I'd like to get an imported one and use it on either T-Mobile or AT&T... I've heard some folks say that only Edge is possible on AT&T with the current model that's out but I'm wondering if you guys know any different? I'd be willing to use this on T-Mobile US or AT&T as long as I could get the 3g speeds... Are there any version of the Hero out right now or that have been confirmed coming out in the near future (within the next 30 days) that will be able to be used on AT&T or T-Mobile?
No - what you've heard is correct. At present, if you're in the US and want a Hero with 3G, it's either the Sprint Hero or nothing. However, there isn't really a whole lot of difference hardware wise between the Hero and the MyTouch 3G.
Regards,
Dave
I've read that the hardware is similar but I was kinda pining for the Sense UI which is what really got me excited about Android... before that I wasn't a huge Android fan. I'm all about the UI
I wonder if there is a way to install sense on a mytouch? Also as far as I know the US version of all other android phones only come in white and not black or dark gray which is what I would want. I could be wrong about that though.
-Michael
There are custom Hero roms for the MT3G.
Well the main reason I wanted the European version aside from the 3g instead of the CDMA was the look of the hero... the MT3G doesn't have the chin and thin/sleek design that I like.
the hero wont work at all in the US? or just no 3g?
I am currently using the Hero on AT&T, you will not get the 3G band. The phone works great on Edge and I dont seem to see any speed difference from my 3GS Iphone.
mtwilford said:
I am currently using the Hero on AT&T, you will not get the 3G band. The phone works great on Edge and I dont seem to see any speed difference from my 3GS Iphone.
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how's it working out for you? i recently bought a Hero and i was deciding between that and the iPhone 3GS (coming from a HTC Touch Pro / Windows Mobile user). i'm also on AT&T so i' going to be going from 3G to Edge.
I would wait...
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/07/02/htc-hero-hits-fcc-with-us-3g/
Note that this is a different model than the CDMA version that Sprint has. I think there are 3 possible things that will happen:
The Hero will be sold in an unlocked North American version.
The Hero will go to AT&T.
The Hero will go to Rogers, the Canadian mobile company that currently sells the Dream and Magic/Sapphire.
i have a problem. my hero arrived yesterday and i have at&t (us) and under phone status it works just fine. it shows i'm running edge, phone calls work. but when i try to go online and use any kind of data connection it doesn't work, anyone know what's going on? everything works on wifi but it doesn't pick up a data connection on edge when it says edge on phone status.
FIXED: nvm, i figured out i had to input the APN settings manually since the phone came unlocked from China.
Just buy a rogers HTC Magic and put one of the many hero roms on it. The rogers one has the same 3g bands as at&t. The only difference is the 3.5 not there and only a 3MP camera but I really don't see a difference in the 3MP and the 5MP. Atleast not from the magin & hero compared.
hey guys.
lets start with some background for a second...
i havent been here in over like 9 months, i used to own an htc touch pro (at&t fuze) but shortly moved on to a blackberry, then an iphone...... and now ffffiiinally, i am sooooo ready for a fresh start with a new device and a new OS and feel. Thus, i chose android, because i think it is gonna be the future of phones. and i like the customization ability and the openness..
now. i live in the US. i have at&t.
i want a magic and a hero, but cannot have both.
i know they are virtually the same, hardware wise, but the hero's 5MP cam over the magic's 3.2, and the hero's 3.5mm headphone jack have me at a loss, because that makes me want the hero bad. but i cannot seem to get my hands on a hero with at&t 3G, which is 850/1900.
the magic on the other hand, i have found a version that possess american 3G.
so i'd either have to choose the hero, with a couple better specs and NO at&t 3G, or the magic, with the camera that gets the job done and no HS jack, BUT has at&t 3G. (Sense UI isnt something im worried about because i can get that on a magic easy peasy)
so im torn.
help me decide. and i'll love you.
The cameras in use are meant to be much of a muchness and an adaptor to 3.5 is not the end of the world either. I went the magic cause here the hero(with chin) is plain ugly
Have you looked into unlocked TELUS HTC Hero? Those versions have the AT&T bands. It also has the European version's chassis so it has the Jay Leno chin.
be sure if you get magic to get the 32A version with 3G
yea. thanks guys. i went with an unlocked magic from rogers. so, when it gets here i'll be back!
thanks!
So I've got an open T-Mobile (USA) account and I'm looking for a GSM device to fall in love with. The form factor and design of the original Hero has caught my eye for several months and I'm almost definitely sold on buying the phone.
A few questions I couldnt find solid answers to in the forums:
1. Will an factory unlocked (Non carrier branded, direct from HTC) Hero operate properly (and in 3G) on the American networK? What features will I not be able to use?
2. Purchasing the device unlocked - do I still have access to the Android market and purchasing abilities with my Gmail account?
3. Multitouch in the browser and albums - does it work as smooth as iPhone or Palm Pre?
4. I've heard the device is to go fully Multitouch with the 2.0 update - where do I get this update from and does it apply to unlocked devices?
5. Do you own one in the US and use it currently on a US GSM carrier? (Tmobile, AT&T).. how well does it work?
Please be sure to answer all the questions - I left my HTC devices (Touch Pro, Mogul, Wizard, etc) behind for a Palm Pre and I've never been happier (EVER!! ) but I want an Android phone to play around with.
These are the questions I can answer.
eightyf0ur said:
1. Will an factory unlocked (Non carrier branded, direct from HTC) Hero operate properly (and in 3G) on the American networK? What features will I not be able to use?
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You would have to get a European HTC Hero, not the Canadian HTC Hero to have full 3G on T-Mobile, due to T-Mobile use 1700MHz & 2100MHz & that's what the European Hero supports.
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2. Purchasing the device unlocked - do I still have access to the Android market and purchasing abilities with my Gmail account?
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Even if it doesn't, you can root the Hero & push all the necessary files to get all those functions.
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3. Multitouch in the browser and albums - does it work as smooth as iPhone or Palm Pre?
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Multitouch in the Stock HTC Hero browser is pretty good but not as good as the iPhone, but still good. Haven't played with the Pre browser so I don't have a opinion on it.
gu1dry said:
These are the questions I can answer.
You would have to get a European HTC Hero, not the Canadian HTC Hero to have full 3G on T-Mobile, due to T-Mobile use 1700MHz & 2100MHz & that's what the European Hero supports.
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No, I don't think that is correct. The European HTC Hero uses the 2100/1900 3G band where as T-Mobile in the Use 2100/1700. I can confirm that my HTC Hero (European, unlocked) never got 3G when I roamed onto T-Mobile U.S.A
4. From HTC in March or from these forums now.
clobber said:
No, I don't think that is correct. The European HTC Hero uses the 2100/1900 3G band where as T-Mobile in the Use 2100/1700. I can confirm that my HTC Hero (European, unlocked) never got 3G when I roamed onto T-Mobile U.S.A
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I stand corrected. Read some incorrect info & doublechecked on HTC's site & the European Hero doesn't support 1700MHz, so ya no 3G on T-Mobile.
clobber said:
No, I don't think that is correct. The European HTC Hero uses the 2100/1900 3G band where as T-Mobile in the Use 2100/1700. I can confirm that my HTC Hero (European, unlocked) never got 3G when I roamed onto T-Mobile U.S.A
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Thats horrible - I'm going to check out YouTube videos to be sure. If it doesnt Im going to be sorely disappointed! I really love this phone and having the Sprint device has made me want the European version that much more (the form factor of the European HERO is goregous compared to the way they butchered it on Sprint).
Yes because no one lies on YouTube
It's in b&w on HTC's site that the European Hero only supports 2100MHz 3G & T-mobile requires 2100 MHZ AND 1700MHz for 3G. The Canadian Hero doesn't support neither 2100MHz or 1700MHz.
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Yes because no one lies on YouTube
It's in b&w on HTC's site that the European Hero only supports 2100MHz 3G & T-mobile requires 2100 MHZ AND 1700MHz for 3G. The Canadian Hero doesn't support neither 2100MHz or 1700MHz.
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Thanks for the nasty reply. I appreciate that.
One of those millions of YouTube reviews had mentioned something about the Hero supporting 3G when plopped onto a specific network. Guess I wasnt paying close enough attention. I suppose I'll be purchasing a G1 and figuring out how to install the stock rom of the HERO (or at least those fancy widgets) without turning it into a brick.
What nasty reply? Why would believe so random person, when the the manufacture of the hardware states it does support the specific radio needed for your needs. It does support 3G on specific networks, which T-Mobile is not one of them.
eightyf0ur said:
1. Will an factory unlocked (Non carrier branded, direct from HTC) Hero operate properly (and in 3G) on the American networK? What features will I not be able to use?
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Nope. No 3G..
eightyf0ur said:
2. Purchasing the device unlocked - do I still have access to the Android market and purchasing abilities with my Gmail account?
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Of course!
eightyf0ur said:
3. Multitouch in the browser and albums - does it work as smooth as iPhone or Palm Pre?
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If you buy a European version, yes.
eightyf0ur said:
4. I've heard the device is to go fully Multitouch with the 2.0 update - where do I get this update from and does it apply to unlocked devices?
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http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=283&act=sd&cat=all
You apply it like any other HTC update, with double clicking a exe file..
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5. Do you own one in the US and use it currently on a US GSM carrier? (Tmobile, AT&T).. how well does it work?
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Don't know.
This is EXACTLY what I wanted! Thanks!
TheDeadCpu... if I buy a G1 what do you suggest is the best way to get the Hero rom running on it? I'm VERY new to Android development and hacking...
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Nope. No 3G..
Of course!
If you buy a European version, yes.
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=283&act=sd&cat=all
You apply it like any other HTC update, with double clicking a exe file..
Don't know.
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Don't know much about the available ROMs for the G1, but head over to the G1 Android Development forum and look for a ROM with SenseUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
And find a ROM and READ the full thread
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Don't know much about the available ROMs for the G1, but head over to the G1 Android Development forum and look for a ROM with SenseUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
And find a ROM and READ the full thread
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Here we go with another 3 months of reading to find a simple answer. *jumps in*
Hero? - piece of rubbish.
Don't bother buying a Hero:
1) Battery life is rubbish
2) Lag on touchscreen is unacceptable
3) Regularly drops calls
4) Official rom updates delivered according to the Tectonic Plate movement calendar, i.e once every thousand years
5) On screen keyboard is rubbish (go on- just try typing a whole email on it aaaaargh!)
6) Lots of good apps but the rest of the phone is just not up to it yet.
7) Often does not send dtmf tones
8) Apps regularly crash
In short, mine is going on ebay for some other sucker to have to endure it.
Hi,
I have an HTC Hero that I bought from TELUS. Its running on the American 3G Band. I unlocked it and am running it on a different carrier (Fido). My question is, when HTC comes out with 2.1 ROM for stock European versions on their site, can I use that on my current Hero and still have 3G?
Thanks for your replies everyone!
Yep, you should be fine. AFAIK, the only difference between the NA and EU versions of the GSM Hero is the radio frequency, which I'm pretty sure the OS is ignorant of.
If you want to be safe though, keep your eye on this:
http://www.htc.com/ca/support/hero-telus/downloads/
I don't foresee the European updates being released any earlier than the Telus update, unless there's some hangup to do with the Google Navigation localization.
I would personally wait for the Telus update myself. Or root your phone and start using custom ROMs. If you do that, I can guarantee you'll get the 2.1 update whenever HTC releases it for any GSM Hero.
Hey I appreciate that speedy and helpful response
Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it to splash $50 to buy an used Evo after selling my HD2? The thing is I want Android with 4.3" screen but I don't know if Android on HD2 is good enough compared to a real Android phone. So what do you think? Would there be a perfect Android ROM that'd make HD2 the same as any Android phone? One more factor to consider, my country doesn't support 4G. Thanks.
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Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it to splash $50 to buy an used Evo after selling my HD2? The thing is I want Android with 4.3" screen but I don't know if Android on HD2 is good enough compared to a real Android phone. So what do you think? Would there be a perfect Android ROM that'd make HD2 the same as any Android phone? One more factor to consider, my country doesn't support 4G. Thanks.
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Your country needs to support CDMA to use the EVO, IT IS NOT GSM COMPATIBLE!
If you would like an Android GSM phone with a 4.3'' screen, why not go for the HTC Desire HD?
paulmor said:
Your country needs to support CDMA to use the EVO, IT IS NOT GSM COMPATIBLE!
If you would like an Android GSM phone with a 4.3'' screen, why not go for the HTC Desire HD?
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yes, of course i'm aware of that. desire hd is not an option because it's not released yet here and even if it is, the price is out of my range.
"desire hd is not an option because it's not released yet here"
Well, your country doesn't have any CDMA network. And... The EVO 4G is available ?
The real question : do you need a phone for calling ? >> Yes or no ?
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"desire hd is not an option because it's not released yet here"
Well, your country doesn't have any CDMA network. And... The EVO 4G is available ?
The real question : do you need a phone for calling ? >> Yes or no ?
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my country indeed has a CDMA network. used one myself. what my country doesn't have is a 4g network. people buy evo from other countries. it's not officially released.
having used an evo i can tell you the is little to no speed difference. If you dont mind wating for the issues we're currently having with android to be resolved then no it isnt worth it. If you cant wait any longer then go for the evo.
dan138zig said:
my country indeed has a CDMA network. used one myself. what my country doesn't have is a 4g network. people buy evo from other countries. it's not officially released.
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CDMA networks operate in different bands in various parts of the world. you need to check with the local operator ( Pele....?) what bands he operates and buy only a compatible unit
paulmor said:
CDMA networks operate in different bands in various parts of the world. you need to check with the local operator ( Pele....?) what bands he operates and buy only a compatible unit
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yes i know. evo works in my country.
Just in case you talk about Pelephone (Israel), while the Evo should, indeed, be compatible with Pelephone's CDMA network, good luck convincing Pelephone to put you on it. And, while their CDMA network is currently fully operational, it kinda looks like they are more into their GSM one, and may eventually start killing the CDMA network off.
dan138zig said:
Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it to splash $50 to buy an used Evo after selling my HD2? The thing is I want Android with 4.3" screen but I don't know if Android on HD2 is good enough compared to a real Android phone. So what do you think? Would there be a perfect Android ROM that'd make HD2 the same as any Android phone? One more factor to consider, my country doesn't support 4G. Thanks.
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first, have you tried android on hd2?...if not, try the mdeejay revolution 2.3 build...it is based on the evo kernel, works perfect