I think I may have a faulty battery (hoping it's not a problem with the phone itself). The battery seems to hold it's charge ok but when it has completely run out of charge or is close to running out, I have a lot of problems getting it to charge up.
If the phone is turned off, the orange light comes on but then goes off again after about 10 minutes and the battery still shows 0% when I turn the phone on to check progress. I have to remove the cable, then remove the battery for at least 5 mins, turn the phone on and while it is booting up, do a soft reset. I then insert the cable as the phone is booting up and after a while the orange light comes on and the phone starts to charge. It takes ages to charge and when it has got to about 20%, I then turn off the phone and it then charges the remaining % fairly quickly. It only gets to 99% though....
I am pretty sure (like 99.9%) that it is just the battery as my son has the same phone. We have swapped chargers - no difference. We then swapped batteries - my phone worked fine and his wouldn't charge! However, when I went in the Orange shop they were insistant that I had to send the phone back as well, which I really don't want to do as I haven't got a spare phone (even a brick).
Unfortunately, as I have just lost my job, I don't want to have to buy a new battery as they are about £25 but I guess I will have to.
What do people think - is it just a faulty battery? Has anyone else had this issue with their phone - i.e is it a known problem?? Hope someone can help...
I guess no-one bothers to answers questions from newbies then....
idd, i feel the same way..
but i think your battery is dead, don't have much experience about that subject but when you exchange the battery with someelse and then his phone acts weird to, look no further.
im having a problem with my battery in my at&t 8525. It stays at 60%. i tried to charge in on my computer but it wont charge. How can i go about fixing this? Can u even charge this from through ur pc?
wmontae;2141201 said:
im having a problem with my battery in my at&t 8525. It stays at 60%. i tried to charge in on my computer but it wont charge. How can i go about fixing this? Can u even charge this from through ur pc?
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I can only answer your last question definitively ... YES, you should be able to charge through a USB connection to a PC.
You say your battery stays at 60%? Wow...I wish MINE did that
Seriously ... what happens if you let it die? Drain the battery of ALL its juice. When it shuts down, keep on trying to restart it and let it run as long as it will. Eventually, you will not be able to start it at all. When that happens, plug it into a charger and leave it shut off until the LED glows green. Then try restarting it and seeing what your battery meter reads. IF IT'S STILL AT 60%, I would think it might be time to invest in a new battery.
Good luck,
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Hello guys,
I'm buying a new standard battery because my current one is going bad. Meanwhile, MAGLDR is known of not charging battery correctly while the phone is off. What should I do know since I heard that new battery must be charged first while the phone is off. Thanks.
The new battery will come with some charge in it. It will not be empty. Lithium batteries do not have 'memories', you do not need to give it a full charge to get the best performance out of it as you used to have to do in the old days. Google for Lithium battery information if you are unsure.
Don't worry about it
Insert the battery, boot into Android and charge it.
Afterthought...
If you are worried however. Just backup your build, flash Windows Mobile back on to the phone. Turn the phone off and charge it with the phone off. Then flash MAGLDR again and recover your backup build.
thanks man, I heard about that too but what makes me doubtful is if that's correct then why almost all phone manuals instruct us to charge the battery until full before turning phone on for the first time.
dan138zig said:
thanks man, I heard about that too but what makes me doubtful is if that's correct then why almost all phone manuals instruct us to charge the battery until full before turning phone on for the first time.
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From personal experience I can say it's pointless to charge full while the phone is off.
All i do everytime is use the charge the battery came with untill the phone turns off by itself, then turn on and plug the charger for 16 hours.
If you do this - full cicle - several times in the begining, the battery is working perfectly.
This way the cells are loaded to the maximum in the begining and the battery is "conditioned"
the use of HD2 with Android is quite a different issue...
Dont know bout all builds(I have nexusHD2 1.9a) but I charged my battery after my phone went comatose-just connect the phone to power with battery and -then- turn it on.If that doesnt work you can always buy el cheapo charger from Ebay.
I bought new battery from ebay,which works great.10$(M | less)for battery+charger.
Cheers
damn, so many different thoughts about li-ion battery i don't know which is the best one.
anyone else? before i receive my new battery tomorrow
After several cycles on WP7 the batt was fully drained and now it won't charge (charge LED goes on for few seconds and then goes off). It won't load either, just switches off on DFT screen. Batt is standard.
Guess it is critical not to allow batt to drain fully on WP7?
Is there any solution to this?
Thanks for any ideas.
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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I can confirm a similar experience; I thought it was worth trying the fully-drain-then-fully-recharge regime suggested elsewhere on these forums as a means of extending battery life, which does struggle a bit on WP7.
The fully discharge bit was easy, but it is worth everyone bearing in mind that magldr - as advised, I believe - will not allow the phone to charge. As a result, I was getting into WP7 (just) only for it to almost immediately shut down. But it was at least doing a small amount of charging before it did.
After a sweaty fifteen minutes or so of restarts (I was having to take the battery out to force the restart as it wouldn't start on the power button), it decided it had enough charge to...well, charge and all was well.
My suggestion would be not to risk going beyond the critical warning WP7 gives, at least until magldr is able to offer charging.
Almost the same issue here, without having let the battery fully drained...
I can't charge my hd2 anymore.....if it's turned off.
But, it Can be charged if wp7 is running! I don't know why...
I had This issue when I received the phone. It took me a whole Day to charge the battery the first time : orange LED turning off after 10seconds (HD2 switched off or in wm6.5
Once the led is off, can't turn the phone on or charge it again until I remove and put the battery back.
It was in summer so I thought the phone was too hot, so I cooled the battery with a fan, replaced it, retryed... At least 10times, and it finally charged.
SO weird, I'll test This again with wp7, who knows?
I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
I'll try the trick with the cable directly to the batt. It is not very practical though if you drain your batt, where there is no access to spare cabling.
bdkinney said:
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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This should be put into the sticky rollup thread for people who have let their batteries drain.
Why dont you do some pics bud and create a topic?
I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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Running cable directly to the batt is confirmed to work. Just revived mine with this trick.
jemaho said:
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
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I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
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Less of a bug and more of an unwanted side-effect of having this excellent capability, I think. I seem to recall that the developers are aware and looking to see what can be done.
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How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
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I guess it is possible to completely drain the battery, in which case this won't work. But if there is some power, removing the battery and replacing it should kick the phone into life for long enough to do this. This was going to be my first try if persistent rebooting hadn't eventually worked.
having this problem and definitely charging below the amount...
i cant fully charge the battery as well
Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
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Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
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You know nothing about chemistry at all! Cold kills battery charge if your going to use temperature use your armpit for 5 mins!
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double post oops please delete
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"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
I finally made a dual boot Android/WP7.
At first, Android said my battery was fully charged, just like WP7, which is totally impossible as I used MAGLDR to format the SD card (wp7 & android partitions) and that it took me almost 1hour, without any possible way to charge the battery while I'm in bootloader mode.
But when I turned the phone off, plugged into the wall.......TADAA It was finally charging, with phone turned off
So, it seems that dual boot may be a way to solve this issue
jemaho said:
"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
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You're arguing against yourself here aren't you? Cold may be fine for storage but you need heat to coax a little more power out. You even say 'you need to wait until they've warmed up before using them'.
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I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
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If you could do some pics that would be great...I have two, "My computer's broken," calls to deal with today. Visuals might help some...it's appreciated.
Wrong idea, sorry guys.
I thought that HD2 was charging since I installed WP7 and Android in Dual Boot. But it's a fake : if the phone is turned off, and that I plug it, the orange led turns on. But that's all, even if I unplug the phone, the led remains turned on !!
And now, Android as well as WP7 are telling me that the battery is fully charged but I'm sure it's not even 50% full.
My Phone won't turn on, even to load into magldr when charged. The phone sometimes vibrates when I plug it in, like it's trying to turn on, but doesn't have enough battery to load into magldr to charge...
The phone worked fine before (except semi-regular restarts, probably due to the memory card), so do you think the battery is the issue? If so should I just buy a new one and hope that it has enough charge to load magldr, then charge, or is there a way to charge the battery whilst it's not in the handset?
Cheers
Try making sure that the pins are both aligned to the battery.
thanks, you just saved me a tenner
can't believe i didn't think to check that...
axw820 said:
thanks, you just saved me a tenner
can't believe i didn't think to check that...
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No Problem
Incidently, i know you got it fixed which is great but for the record and anyone else searching for this.
If your battery is nackard and you cant get to WP7 and MAGLDR isnt able to load to start charging that way you can try to warm up the battery a bit, dont use a direct heat source, but just warm it slightly, dont over do it, or it might blow up, you'll help the chemical reactions inside which "might" be enough to get you in to magldr or even WP7 its self
anyhow, glad you fixed it!
If my battery dies completely, sometimes it wont turn back on and wont charge. But I found that if you pull the battery, plug the charger into the phone, and then put the battery back in while its plugged into the charger, it seems to fix the issue. It turns the device on and begins charging once again.
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If my battery dies completely, sometimes it wont turn back on and wont charge. But I found that if you pull the battery, plug the charger into the phone, and then put the battery back in while its plugged into the charger, it seems to fix the issue. It turns the device on and begins charging once again.
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amazing advice! thanks given =D