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After several cycles on WP7 the batt was fully drained and now it won't charge (charge LED goes on for few seconds and then goes off). It won't load either, just switches off on DFT screen. Batt is standard.
Guess it is critical not to allow batt to drain fully on WP7?
Is there any solution to this?
Thanks for any ideas.
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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I can confirm a similar experience; I thought it was worth trying the fully-drain-then-fully-recharge regime suggested elsewhere on these forums as a means of extending battery life, which does struggle a bit on WP7.
The fully discharge bit was easy, but it is worth everyone bearing in mind that magldr - as advised, I believe - will not allow the phone to charge. As a result, I was getting into WP7 (just) only for it to almost immediately shut down. But it was at least doing a small amount of charging before it did.
After a sweaty fifteen minutes or so of restarts (I was having to take the battery out to force the restart as it wouldn't start on the power button), it decided it had enough charge to...well, charge and all was well.
My suggestion would be not to risk going beyond the critical warning WP7 gives, at least until magldr is able to offer charging.
Almost the same issue here, without having let the battery fully drained...
I can't charge my hd2 anymore.....if it's turned off.
But, it Can be charged if wp7 is running! I don't know why...
I had This issue when I received the phone. It took me a whole Day to charge the battery the first time : orange LED turning off after 10seconds (HD2 switched off or in wm6.5
Once the led is off, can't turn the phone on or charge it again until I remove and put the battery back.
It was in summer so I thought the phone was too hot, so I cooled the battery with a fan, replaced it, retryed... At least 10times, and it finally charged.
SO weird, I'll test This again with wp7, who knows?
I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
I'll try the trick with the cable directly to the batt. It is not very practical though if you drain your batt, where there is no access to spare cabling.
bdkinney said:
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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This should be put into the sticky rollup thread for people who have let their batteries drain.
Why dont you do some pics bud and create a topic?
I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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Running cable directly to the batt is confirmed to work. Just revived mine with this trick.
jemaho said:
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
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I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
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Less of a bug and more of an unwanted side-effect of having this excellent capability, I think. I seem to recall that the developers are aware and looking to see what can be done.
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How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
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I guess it is possible to completely drain the battery, in which case this won't work. But if there is some power, removing the battery and replacing it should kick the phone into life for long enough to do this. This was going to be my first try if persistent rebooting hadn't eventually worked.
having this problem and definitely charging below the amount...
i cant fully charge the battery as well
Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
jemaho said:
Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
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You know nothing about chemistry at all! Cold kills battery charge if your going to use temperature use your armpit for 5 mins!
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"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
I finally made a dual boot Android/WP7.
At first, Android said my battery was fully charged, just like WP7, which is totally impossible as I used MAGLDR to format the SD card (wp7 & android partitions) and that it took me almost 1hour, without any possible way to charge the battery while I'm in bootloader mode.
But when I turned the phone off, plugged into the wall.......TADAA It was finally charging, with phone turned off
So, it seems that dual boot may be a way to solve this issue
jemaho said:
"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
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You're arguing against yourself here aren't you? Cold may be fine for storage but you need heat to coax a little more power out. You even say 'you need to wait until they've warmed up before using them'.
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I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
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If you could do some pics that would be great...I have two, "My computer's broken," calls to deal with today. Visuals might help some...it's appreciated.
Wrong idea, sorry guys.
I thought that HD2 was charging since I installed WP7 and Android in Dual Boot. But it's a fake : if the phone is turned off, and that I plug it, the orange led turns on. But that's all, even if I unplug the phone, the led remains turned on !!
And now, Android as well as WP7 are telling me that the battery is fully charged but I'm sure it's not even 50% full.
Need some help hope i post this in the right place. i have gingerbread on my HTC HD2 and was converting back to windows to sell on ebay and i started it was almost done when i relised before i started i forgot to charge the battery and it ran out before it was done know the phone what turn on at all. i plug it in the wall charger nothing, plug it into the computer nothing tried everything nothing. do you think that the battery is that dead and it was in the proccess that the chargers dont work on it no more. would it work maybe if i had a charged battery to put in it. it mite come back on. any help would be great thanks.
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Need some help hope i post this in the right place. i have gingerbread on my HTC HD2 and was converting back to windows to sell on ebay and i started it was almost done when i relised before i started i forgot to charge the battery and it ran out before it was done know the phone what turn on at all. i plug it in the wall charger nothing, plug it into the computer nothing tried everything nothing. do you think that the battery is that dead and it was in the proccess that the chargers dont work on it no more. would it work maybe if i had a charged battery to put in it. it mite come back on. any help would be great thanks.
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Just keep it plugged in for 1-2 hours and then try booting in to try color screen bootloader and go from there.....
If you have MAGLDR installed then you can not charge the battery when the phone is off.
You should try to charge the battery using an external charger.
Edit: If you have a friend with HD2 and windows Mobile 6.5 then you could use the phone to charge you battery.
Wrong, you can charge it while it's off.
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Wrong, you can charge it while it's off.
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really? are you sure? because there are a lot of references to the magldr bug that wont allow charging (or even powering on without pulling the battery) if you try to charge with the phone turned off.
well i tried to charge for the last 2 hours nothing tried to remove battery nothing. Iam going to try and find a charged battery to see if the phone mite turn on or something. ill post later to let yall know what happen tho. thanks for the help.
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really? are you sure? because there are a lot of references to the magldr bug that wont allow charging (or even powering on without pulling the battery) if you try to charge with the phone turned off.
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Just give it a try man and see for yourself whether it charges or not....
what are you guys fighting about man, they just updated the magldr v1.3 and yeah we can now charge the phone while its off
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what are you guys fighting about man, they just updated the magldr v1.3 and yeah we can now charge the phone while its off
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Wrong x2.
1. No one is fighting.
2. With new magldr, phone turns itself on when plugged in. Charging when off is not possible. The battery requires management which is only implemented in software. It may hold a small charge if you have magldr installed, but it won't charge fully, or properly. Also, it's not likely he's got the new magldr if he's returning back to windows.
Lastly, for the OP, what method did you use to return to winmo? And which winmo rom did you use?
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Find a way to charge your battery and everything it's going to be just fine.Your phone it is going to work.
Changing the battery should work.
I'm new here so basically with new 1.13 or later phone can't be charging if it's not turned on?
Makić said:
I'm new here so basically with new 1.13 or later phone can't be charging if it's not turned on?
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Read? Phone turns itself on if you connect a charger. Phone has NEVER charged while off with nand. This way at least you don't have to pull the battery to turn the phone on.
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Just in case: If you on same situation that described on first post try this:
Q: If you completely run down the battery, would you be able to charge it with the phone again?
A: If your battery is dead, press and hold Vol Down and plug in USB cable / charger at same time. Phone will boot into bootloader and charge there just fine. Leave for 20 mins, pull battery, reboot and charge normally. If phone has just run down, plugging in the charger will usually turn it on.
Its found on one NAND thread and goals goes to g.lewarne
Actually i was on same situation and this helped on first try.
check the connection between battery and phone , the metal things i mean.
Perhaps, it is off the subject, but...
Poster #1: why do you want to get rid of this beautiful phone?
Just curious...
ok i bought another phone and i took out the charged battery from it and put it in the bricked HTC and it does nothing. now i know it was almost reverted back and i think the battery ran down but Iam not completely sure but maybe it could have been in the reverting software i used and maybe it just like lock up or something cause at that point you couldnt see the battery indicator. now i guess ill just have to sell on ebay for parts but it would be cool to try and un-brick it or try and figure it out.
So we all know the major problem with the WP7 roms.
You can not charge your phone when battery is completely drained!
Now here is the solotion. This requires no apps, no mods. Just your own handeling!
So what to do when battery depletes?
1. Plug your phone into a powersuply.
2. Turn on the phone and keep the power button and both volumes buttons pressed. (this is called a hard reset.)
How to hard reset HD2, view the first 17 seconds. Ignore the VolUp!.
3. You will receive an message saying:
''This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer defailt. Press VolUp to restore manufacture default, or press other keys to cancel.''
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4. Do not press anything. Let your phone be for a couple of minutes. I keep my phone laying for a minimum of 10 minutes.
You won't see the phone charging (no orange light in upper left corner)! Believe me it is!
5. After 10 minutes restart the phone. If ''press any other button to cancel'' does not work. Take out the battery, keep battery out for 5 seconds. Restart phone.
6. Phone will start. After windows phone loading screen you will see the phone is charging. If you kept it on power. If not, you didn't follow my instructions.
Tip: to avoid battery drainage!
When the phone is making the bleep noice warning for critical energy level, turn off the phone and keep it at a warm location. Ideal is to take out the battery and keep that to as warm as possible. Batterys barely drain when they are in warm enviorments.
I am not responsible to any damage done to the phone!
I done this multiple times, all times it worked fine for me!
If it helped, Thank me and leave a comment
when i'm on the road there is only one warm place i could think off, besides my armpits...
but your method works, have faced it once.
Thanks for the conformation.
To bad the HD2, is kinda big... doesnt sit that well.
magldr works as well
whats not clear is if the battery controler is in use with this method, so be warned, dont leave it too long, if you charge it for no more than an hour it will be ok
mains power adaptors usually give out 1Ah, take in to account that the screen is on full, this should give you around 700mA, more than enough to get in to windows to charge propperly
USB charge will be half that, most USB ports only give out 500mAh so an hour will give you approx 200mA again, thats enough to get you in to windows
Overcharging a battery can have some side effects, firstly is reversed polarity, meaning it wont take as much charge in the future, or it could heat up a lot, which isnt good for anything, the life of battery or the device its self.
dazza9075 said:
magldr works as well
whats not clear is if the battery controler is in use with this method, so be warned, dont leave it too long, if you charge it for no more than an hour it will be ok
mains power adaptors usually give out 1Ah, take in to account that the screen is on full, this should give you around 700mA, more than enough to get in to windows to charge propperly
USB charge will be half that, most USB ports only give out 500mAh so an hour will give you approx 200mA again, thats enough to get you in to windows
Overcharging a battery can have some side effects, firstly is reversed polarity, meaning it wont take as much charge in the future, or it could heat up a lot, which isnt good for anything, the life of battery or the device its self.
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That is true, but I recommend trying it for a minimum of 10 minutes keep it on charge. and as soon as windows pop on it recharges normally.
And didnt knew magldr did the job as well, the only problem is if you deplete it to badly it doesnt go past the HTC screen in the beginning.
all this is completely unnecessary.
easy fix solution:
1. Pull the battery out and USB cable out (if connected and charging)
2. Plug the USB into the phone and allow it to charge without a battery (it will not, duh!)
3. Put the battery in while the HD2's connected to the USB charging.
4. Observe that you can boot all the way back into WP7.
enjoy.
lemonspeakers said:
all this is completely unnecessary.
easy fix solution:
1. Pull the battery out and USB cable out (if connected and charging)
2. Plug the USB into the phone and allow it to charge without a battery (it will not, duh!)
3. Put the battery in while the HD2's connected to the USB charging.
4. Observe that you can boot all the way back into WP7.
enjoy.
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I did not know that.
Well thank you. Although I am not such a big fan of taking out the battery when its not needed. I mean the change is short circuits with the connecting points when taking out, when powered or putting in when powered it larger. Now I heared from a comment above that MAGLRD does the trick as well. Now that is far more easier then all the others given above, Yours and mine
good tutorial on this. I cant believe the battery wont charge when dead thought this was a faulty error of the phone.
I flash boyppc rom v5 and my battery drained completely and now it doesnt start up I tried both methods available here. Please help.
faiz1120 said:
I flash boyppc rom v5 and my battery drained completely and now it doesnt start up I tried both methods available here. Please help.
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theres 3 methods on here,
bootloader charge
magldr charge
remove battery charge
all three will benifit frm heating up the battery, do not cook it, or it may blow up
there is a 4th way but i dont recomend it unless nothing else works
take a usb cable mini or usb printer cable
cut off the end connector
strip back the wires and seperate them all, you want the red and black ones
make sure all the wires cant touch each other, cover the 2 unused wires with tape i
then connect the black wire to the (-) negative and the red wire to the (+) positive
tape them in place
the 3rd contact point on the battery isnt used in this method
finally connect the other end of the usb cable to the computer
dont leave it too long and when disconnecting remove the computer end first
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I flash boyppc rom v5 and my battery drained completely and now it doesnt start up I tried both methods available here. Please help.
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I recommend this one.
It bypasses the system somewhat. Don't know what happens when battery is entirely drained, but it is worth a try.
easy fix solution:
1. Pull the battery out and USB cable out (if connected and charging)
2. Plug the USB into the phone and allow it to charge without a battery (it will not, duh!)
3. Put the battery in while the HD2's connected to the USB charging.
4. Observe that you can boot all the way back into WP7.
enjoy.
If it does not help. You can buy a new battery.
Click Here. Its not that expensive, a official new battery from HTC is around 30$is around 20Euro's.
lemonspeakers said:
all this is completely unnecessary.
easy fix solution:
1. Pull the battery out and USB cable out (if connected and charging)
2. Plug the USB into the phone and allow it to charge without a battery (it will not, duh!)
3. Put the battery in while the HD2's connected to the USB charging.
4. Observe that you can boot all the way back into WP7.
enjoy.
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Thanks for this timely post Lemonspeakers. completely drained the battery listening to music on loudspeaker and didnt hear any warning. Couldn't hard reset then checked this thread.
On putting in the battery after charging the empty phone, the screen kept cycling between mgldr and HTC splashscreen so booted into sd android and the phone is fine.
I assume I didnt charge the empty phone for long enough (30 secs), I didnt warm the battery and I suppose I could have left it cycling until it charged up a bit more.
Thanks again
Toasit said:
I recommend this one.
It bypasses the system somewhat. Don't know what happens when battery is entirely drained, but it is worth a try.
easy fix solution:
1. Pull the battery out and USB cable out (if connected and charging)
2. Plug the USB into the phone and allow it to charge without a battery (it will not, duh!)
3. Put the battery in while the HD2's connected to the USB charging.
4. Observe that you can boot all the way back into WP7.
enjoy.
If it does not help. You can buy a new battery.
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i tried but my phone doesnt start even then. my friend said it might be a kernel. i wanna flash stock but i dont know how because my phone isnt starting
my hd2 is a tmous. the 1024 one
Robbie P said:
Thanks for this timely post Lemonspeakers. completely drained the battery listening to music on loudspeaker and didnt hear any warning. Couldn't hard reset then checked this thread.
On putting in the battery after charging the empty phone, the screen kept cycling between mgldr and HTC splashscreen so booted into sd android and the phone is fine.
I assume I didnt charge the empty phone for long enough (30 secs), I didnt warm the battery and I suppose I could have left it cycling until it charged up a bit more.
Thanks again
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your phone was not starting either? like it was black even though you pressed hard reset? how long do i leave it the empty phone to charge??
I "charged" it for about 30 seconds, suppose you could do longer
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I "charged" it for about 30 seconds, suppose you could do longer
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I left the phone without the battery and left it plugged in for 2 hrs and still no luck.
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I left the phone without the battery and left it plugged in for 2 hrs and still no luck.
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This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
Have you tried warming the battery? Hairdryer warm
Dont know if you have mgldr so maybe try the hard reset option
Robbie P said:
This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
Have you tried warming the battery? Hairdryer warm
Dont know if you have mgldr so maybe try the hard reset option
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I have magdlr but I can't even get it into hard reset. I can try the hairdryer warm the battery
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I have magdlr but I can't even get it into hard reset. I can try the hairdryer warm the battery
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That might work.
Otherwise maybe a phone repair shop, there is equipment that can charge your battery outside an phone. An emergency charger its called if I am not mistaken.
you could inform there.
its showing symtoms of it bring bricked. cause it doesnt charge, it doesnt turn on without the battery, and yeah conclusion is that its dead!
hey guys.
charged battery at night used it at work all day came home around 10 and battery was on 1%..went upstairs to charge but phone but was dead. when plugged into wall phone boots for 2 sec then turns off and boots again for 2sec....constantly looping like this? im pretty sure i just need enough charge so that i can boot into android and ill be sweet. but doesn't even get half way there!?
need help. cant charge.
im leaving the battery out for the night and im gonna try again tomorrow but any suggestions would be great!
thanks
Not sure but you can try this: hold down power button till mgldr menu comes. Stay in mgldr menu for some time and get some charge,then reboot.
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Phone will not charge on magldr screen. Android needs to be booted to charge.
Get old USB cable, mini or micro, cut end off, bare red and black, take battery, connect red to + and black to - ,plug into wall charger and hold wires on battery for a minute or so, reinsert battery, should be charged enough to get far enough into booting to start charging.
First.. i had the same problem.
it have to charge while off.
before you cut off things, check the batterypins. one of them was broken on my HD2 (i saw one of them below my battery).
if so, try to hold that broken pin back while insert the battery and try again.
you could also buy a dockingstation (something like that: http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Premi...P2YS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1313518480&sr=8-4) to charge batterys.
I had the same problem once, I`m not 100% sure how i solved it but I think that I pluged it in that it started booting and removed then the battery. I think it doesnt start automatically if you reinsert the battery then... but I´m not sure about it...
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I had the same problem once, I`m not 100% sure how i solved it but I think that I pluged it in that it started booting and removed then the battery. I think it doesnt start automatically if you reinsert the battery then... but I´m not sure about it...
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thats correct, but relies on the bootloader being able to charge when off, so this method of fixing the discharged battery problem only works with winmo or cLK
Your right i had that Problem in the time i was running it with winmob andere haret
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Charge while in bootloader or hard reset screen, it should charge from there.
However, the charging process using the aforementioned methods is kind of slow.
hey guys. thanks for your responses. i have left it overnight and it doesnt get to the 1234 bit. i have 3-4 cords so i cut one up however it has blue, red, white and green cords....whats positive and whats negative?
also my pins are fine.
this is killing me!
Thank you to samsamuel, i ended up cutting my old cable. connected the red cable to + and the white cable to - and left it for a hour. just booted my phone back up and got 1000 msgs and emails lol and im on 84% battery.
thanks again to everyone how posted!
much appreciated!
Good to hear,, for anyone else thinking of trying it, an hour is pushing it a bit, you are running the risk of damaging the battery since the charge control circuits aren't being used.
What Android build is this? I remember having a build once that required a special key combination to charge the phone up. I think it required you to hold the volume down and power while plugged in to the charger and it could charge from there. I don't remember exactly though.
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What Android build is this? I remember having a build once that required a special key combination to charge the phone up. I think it required you to hold the volume down and power while plugged in to the charger and it could charge from there. I don't remember exactly though.
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Nothing to do with the build,,, if you have magldr installed the phone must be on and booted into android to charge.
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Nothing to do with the build,,, if you have magldr installed the phone must be on and booted into android to charge.
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EDIT: I realize now that it must have been something else, can't charge in HSPL or MAGLDR (duh). I have no recollection of what though (if anybody knows, let me know because it's driving me nuts now!)
OP, you do also realize that instead of cutting up wires you could get an external charger for your battery and just charge the battery alone, right? If you've wanted to buy one of those fancy desk docks you could get one that also charges a battery behind the phone
Hello
Once ive completely drained the battery, and i got to plug my hd2 WP7 in from a wall plug, it automatically switches on.
Then, it goes through MAGLDR and the boots WP7 onto the welcome screen, then restarts back to MAGLDR again!
So what i have to do, is leave it on the magldr screen for a few minuites and wait for it to charge up a little before starting WP7.
Anyone else have this problem?
I have checked BatteryTool whilst plugged in and on 30 second test, i get between 392 and 465.
Is this typical? this is whilst in the wall and the screen on.
Cheers!
p.s just looked at the charger, and its supposed to be outputting 5v DC and 1200mA
Same behavior here.
Seems that after x restarts also is capable of loading wp7 tough.
I run into the same problem. If you let it hang in MAGLDR, even on the first boot, to let it charge up some, then it can boot on the first round. For some reason it doesn't boot if you plug it in when the phone is off; does it not charge in this situation? I am yet to actually bust out a multimeter
The new magldr being developed supposedly fixes that. We all get that issue.
HD2 does it even without modifications. It seems it happens when it doesn't have enough charge to boot all the way into the OS so it reboots forever. As homeworld1031tx says, leave it on magldr screen for a few minutes which should let it get enough juice to boot properly.
aaah, glad to know im not the only one having this issue!
It becomes even more of a problem when your using a car charger.
I guess we will just have to waitt for the next MAGLDR
another one to watch out for, and that was what i thought you was going to say from your title
is that if you charge the phone whilst the red light blinks, it will not charge!
From what ive noticed this can happen from one of two ways, firstly is that you get the phone to hot, it seems to have some kind of thermal cut out, the second way is to run the battery right down low, it seems to get confused sometimes and wont let you charge even within windows. Infact the battery monitor program can sometimes show you a negative value for the charge left in the battery
In fact it almost discharges the device, The battery is a real pain in the arse, my advice to you is get an external charger cuz the other thing with using MAGLDR and The bootloader to charge is that it messes up your clock, an if you get a bunch of txts whilst its messed up it can be a pain in the arse to find them!
This isnt likely to get completely fixed guys (the Magldr issue fix is slightly different and wont fix everything), to try an make the best of a poor situation, i find a nice cradle with an Aux charge slot on it and a spare battery works wonders.