Charging new battery with NAND - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hello guys,
I'm buying a new standard battery because my current one is going bad. Meanwhile, MAGLDR is known of not charging battery correctly while the phone is off. What should I do know since I heard that new battery must be charged first while the phone is off. Thanks.

The new battery will come with some charge in it. It will not be empty. Lithium batteries do not have 'memories', you do not need to give it a full charge to get the best performance out of it as you used to have to do in the old days. Google for Lithium battery information if you are unsure.
Don't worry about it
Insert the battery, boot into Android and charge it.

Afterthought...
If you are worried however. Just backup your build, flash Windows Mobile back on to the phone. Turn the phone off and charge it with the phone off. Then flash MAGLDR again and recover your backup build.

thanks man, I heard about that too but what makes me doubtful is if that's correct then why almost all phone manuals instruct us to charge the battery until full before turning phone on for the first time.

dan138zig said:
thanks man, I heard about that too but what makes me doubtful is if that's correct then why almost all phone manuals instruct us to charge the battery until full before turning phone on for the first time.
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From personal experience I can say it's pointless to charge full while the phone is off.
All i do everytime is use the charge the battery came with untill the phone turns off by itself, then turn on and plug the charger for 16 hours.
If you do this - full cicle - several times in the begining, the battery is working perfectly.
This way the cells are loaded to the maximum in the begining and the battery is "conditioned"
the use of HD2 with Android is quite a different issue...

Dont know bout all builds(I have nexusHD2 1.9a) but I charged my battery after my phone went comatose-just connect the phone to power with battery and -then- turn it on.If that doesnt work you can always buy el cheapo charger from Ebay.
I bought new battery from ebay,which works great.10$(M | less)for battery+charger.
Cheers

damn, so many different thoughts about li-ion battery i don't know which is the best one.

anyone else? before i receive my new battery tomorrow

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re-Changre phone battery in boot rom mode?

My battery dead during a rom flash, after i purchased a new battery, I try to start the phone, but the phone show up the three color screen for 5 second than switched off, I am not sure if the newly purchase battery are empty or not, is it possible to charge up the battery if the phone unable to boot into windows? Thanks
rookery said:
My battery dead during a rom flash, after i purchased a new battery, I try to start the phone, but the phone show up the three color screen for 5 second than switched off, I am not sure if the newly purchase battery are empty or not, is it possible to charge up the battery if the phone unable to boot into windows? Thanks
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I believe you need a rom in the phone to get it to charge. New batteries normally do not come charged. You can get a battery charger from ebay for only a few dollars ( I just found one for $3.99).
Or you could find someone with the same phone and ask them to charge your battery, so that you can flash again...
Thanks for the informations, I think I have to find my friend to chanrge the battery for me, so does any HTC phone say Prophet and Hermes use the same battery model as Wizard??

Runs only on charger - broken phone or battery?

Yesterday everything was OK. I flashed my phone to newest version of OpenEclair, put phone on charger (like every night) and then went to sleep.
Today, when i plug phone off charger they automatically turn off. When i plug charger on the phone is running ok, but everywhere (eg. in Spare Parts) they shows that battery is 0% charged, battery level is Good (100%), and battery temperature is 67.7*C (153.86*F).
I tried to insert other battery to Phone. I found that, Nokia BL-5C battery have similiar parameters, but everything was identical to situation on original battery.
What may be wrong? What should I do?
Sorry for my bad english.
Use the recovery image in my sig if you don't have it already and wipe battery stats, reboot and let the phone charge fully.
Doesn't work.
Now the situation on
HTC battery & charger: phone turns on (on power on blink one time red) and after 1min they shut down without any information
Nokia BL-5C battery & charger: phone turn on (blink one time red) and still runs without any problems.
I'm not sure, is that battery or phone disfunction? Important is that Nokia BL-5C battery has only 3.7Wh. HTC battery has 4.25Wh.
Damn your phone is 2x hotter then mine xD
its only shown temperature, i dont believe [and dont feel] this temperature
evilkorn said:
Use the recovery image in my sig if you don't have it already and wipe battery stats, reboot and let the phone charge fully.
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Its the other way around
You Fully charge then wipe the stats:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Troubleshooting#Battery_recalibration
My comment was assuming he started with a full charge in the first place.
Reboot the phone and use it normally, but don't charge until it shuts off.
Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
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I have bought new battery for g1, and this problem still exists...
Is any program or anything, which "cheats" system about battery?
Phone can run out of charger only in recovery menu - at normal theyre shutdowing because of low battery.
Can i do anything without visiting service? Any ideas?
endpl said:
I have bought new battery for g1, and this problem still exists...
Is any program or anything, which "cheats" system about battery?
Phone can run out of charger only in recovery menu - at normal theyre shutdowing because of low battery.
Can i do anything without visiting service? Any ideas?
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Sounds like phone. A new battery would've solved this problem. Why do you not wanna visit service? Just unroot and demand a replacement.

Major Battery Issues

I've been having problems with my battery for a week now, I noticed it wouldn't charge to 100% so that the green light comes on it will just goto 99% and then stay there. The battery then drains so fast, like literally I will be on 1% in an hour and a half.
So I tried a full reset of the phone and that didn't work. I also bought a new battery and that didn't work so I'm guessing the phone might well be knackered.
Also the phone seems to be really hot I never noticed it that hot before.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Replace battery immediately! Do not attempt to charge it anymore, it could go very bad!
I did, I bought a new battery and the same thing happens.
I have to have it on charge constantly all day.
Maybe charging control unit(in phone) is damaged, or charger is not working properly.
Can you check voltage on charger?
Also are you sure you use original battery manufactured by HTC?
Right here, my problem

[Q] After several cycles on WP7 HD2 won't charge

After several cycles on WP7 the batt was fully drained and now it won't charge (charge LED goes on for few seconds and then goes off). It won't load either, just switches off on DFT screen. Batt is standard.
Guess it is critical not to allow batt to drain fully on WP7?
Is there any solution to this?
Thanks for any ideas.
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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I can confirm a similar experience; I thought it was worth trying the fully-drain-then-fully-recharge regime suggested elsewhere on these forums as a means of extending battery life, which does struggle a bit on WP7.
The fully discharge bit was easy, but it is worth everyone bearing in mind that magldr - as advised, I believe - will not allow the phone to charge. As a result, I was getting into WP7 (just) only for it to almost immediately shut down. But it was at least doing a small amount of charging before it did.
After a sweaty fifteen minutes or so of restarts (I was having to take the battery out to force the restart as it wouldn't start on the power button), it decided it had enough charge to...well, charge and all was well.
My suggestion would be not to risk going beyond the critical warning WP7 gives, at least until magldr is able to offer charging.
Almost the same issue here, without having let the battery fully drained...
I can't charge my hd2 anymore.....if it's turned off.
But, it Can be charged if wp7 is running! I don't know why...
I had This issue when I received the phone. It took me a whole Day to charge the battery the first time : orange LED turning off after 10seconds (HD2 switched off or in wm6.5
Once the led is off, can't turn the phone on or charge it again until I remove and put the battery back.
It was in summer so I thought the phone was too hot, so I cooled the battery with a fan, replaced it, retryed... At least 10times, and it finally charged.
SO weird, I'll test This again with wp7, who knows?
I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
I'll try the trick with the cable directly to the batt. It is not very practical though if you drain your batt, where there is no access to spare cabling.
bdkinney said:
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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This should be put into the sticky rollup thread for people who have let their batteries drain.
Why dont you do some pics bud and create a topic?
I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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Running cable directly to the batt is confirmed to work. Just revived mine with this trick.
jemaho said:
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
adminlt said:
I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
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Less of a bug and more of an unwanted side-effect of having this excellent capability, I think. I seem to recall that the developers are aware and looking to see what can be done.
adminlt said:
How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
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I guess it is possible to completely drain the battery, in which case this won't work. But if there is some power, removing the battery and replacing it should kick the phone into life for long enough to do this. This was going to be my first try if persistent rebooting hadn't eventually worked.
having this problem and definitely charging below the amount...
i cant fully charge the battery as well
Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
jemaho said:
Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
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You know nothing about chemistry at all! Cold kills battery charge if your going to use temperature use your armpit for 5 mins!
double post oops please delete
lilikin said:
double post oops please delete
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"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
I finally made a dual boot Android/WP7.
At first, Android said my battery was fully charged, just like WP7, which is totally impossible as I used MAGLDR to format the SD card (wp7 & android partitions) and that it took me almost 1hour, without any possible way to charge the battery while I'm in bootloader mode.
But when I turned the phone off, plugged into the wall.......TADAA It was finally charging, with phone turned off
So, it seems that dual boot may be a way to solve this issue
jemaho said:
"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
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You're arguing against yourself here aren't you? Cold may be fine for storage but you need heat to coax a little more power out. You even say 'you need to wait until they've warmed up before using them'.
adminlt said:
I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
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If you could do some pics that would be great...I have two, "My computer's broken," calls to deal with today. Visuals might help some...it's appreciated.
Wrong idea, sorry guys.
I thought that HD2 was charging since I installed WP7 and Android in Dual Boot. But it's a fake : if the phone is turned off, and that I plug it, the orange led turns on. But that's all, even if I unplug the phone, the led remains turned on !!
And now, Android as well as WP7 are telling me that the battery is fully charged but I'm sure it's not even 50% full.

[Q] Phone wont charge Help

Hi there Guys I have an find 5 and it wont charge or sometimes it wont even turn on.
The phone boots up and it will display that it has 4% battery then this will go up to 5% or even 6% but then it starts dropping back to 0%.
At the moment I am unable to use the phone as it just jumps back to zero and turns off if I unplug the phone.
Here is what I have done so far:
Use a different charger and cable
Charge with pc
Keep the phone off and charge for 1-2 hours non stop
Turn the phone on and charge for a few hours
What do you guys suggest I do. I have a useless phone atm.
Thanks in advance.
TheKendal said:
Hi there Guys I have an find 5 and it wont charge or sometimes it wont even turn on.
The phone boots up and it will display that it has 4% battery then this will go up to 5% or even 6% but then it starts dropping back to 0%.
At the moment I am unable to use the phone as it just jumps back to zero and turns off if I unplug the phone.
Here is what I have done so far:
Use a different charger and cable
Charge with pc
Keep the phone off and charge for 1-2 hours non stop
Turn the phone on and charge for a few hours
What do you guys suggest I do. I have a useless phone atm.
Thanks in advance.
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Looks like faulty battery management or a faulty battery. I would contact OPPO for advice what to do. Just contact them and give all the information you provided here. It could maybe be a rom issue but i think that's unlikely. Try reflashing a rom but make sure the phone is connected to power during flashing, because a powerloss would be bad. Just ask them if you should try to reflash the rom or if you should just send ik back to them. My experience with Oppo's warrenty is really good I sent it back to HK and got a new one before mine arrived + a refund for the shipping costs. Good luck.
I had the same thing, problem was that my phone just completely refused to charge like at all. I was freaking out because of it, since I saw that many people were having problems with the USB connector on the Find 7a. I was just hoping and praying it was not the same with my phone. Then I was at school, forgot my charger and asked my friend, who had a Sony Xperia Z3 phone, who borrow me his charger. And all of a sudden my phone started charging.
It appears that the standard charger included in the package is quite vulnerable to excessive charging. Eventually the connector will get loose and won't be able to charge the phone. I would suggest you to use a different charger for a change, also...in case you already use a different charger, make sure it has the same amps throughput as the original Oppo charger does, if it is too low it has troubles charging as well since the throughput is lower that the phone uses to charge and keep the phone running. Have you tried to charge the phone already completely turned off?

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