Can the creative Zii egg or any other android media player run sense ui (I'm assuming sense ui is just another program)
kurt.hewett said:
Can the creative Zii egg or any other android media player run sense ui (I'm assuming sense ui is just another program)
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It's impossible. It's not a program it's a complete OS. It's a Hero rom that works on Hero devices or similar. The hardware change in the Zii egg will not allow for it to work without tons and tons of work which i don't think anyone will spend the time on.
psychoace said:
It's impossible. It's not a program it's a complete OS. It's a Hero rom that works on Hero devices or similar. The hardware change in the Zii egg will not allow for it to work without tons and tons of work which i don't think anyone will spend the time on.
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well that is wrong actually. how do you think we got the hero roms on our G1/MT3G's? it's not hard actually as i assume the zii egg supports cupcake, and hero is no specific rom it's just a little modified cupcake shouldn't be hard to get it working on the zii egg if its bootloader will be unlocked and the kernel is opensource
the_fish said:
well that is wrong actually. how do you think we got the hero roms on our G1/MT3G's? it's not hard actually as i assume the zii egg supports cupcake, and hero is no specific rom it's just a little modified cupcake shouldn't be hard to get it working on the zii egg if its bootloader will be unlocked and the kernel is opensource
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both are htc phones with almost exact hardware that is how they got it on the g1 and mt3g. The drivers were almost exactly the same so it worked with the egg it's very different
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Hello Everyone,
As you guys may have heard that the magic will be able to update to the sense ui. Do you guys think it can be ported to the dream? The official update only. Or can we just install it even though its for the magic? Please let me know.
Thank You
Its already out there man... look at the roms in the development section.
However... if you think an official release of it from HTC is going to make it run smoother on the Dream then nah. Dream just doesnt have the hardware.
Senorkabob said:
Its already out there man... look at the roms in the development section.
However... if you think an official release of it from HTC is going to make it run smoother on the Dream then nah. Dream just doesnt have the hardware.
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an official update will make it run smoother because they have access to parts of the code that the developers here do not due to them being .odexed(allong with other things) so they could go even further with the optimisations. Although there would probably be some limitations due to hardware they could make a verson designed to run on the dream (which they probably would have if it wasnt google branded)
I wouldnt be mad if they DIDNT have an update to use the SENSE UI on the DREAM....i mean like the other guy said...its already available on here...just because main media and blogs say we wont get it doesnt mean a Dev isnt/hasnt already ported it.....i like the Sense UI at first but than I decided I like the regular Android Look alot better...
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
im not soo sure of this but that Motorola Droid looks bloody good! Really nice device, huge screen and it is one of the few Droid phones around that has a flash (LED i know but better than none)
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
shah_vm said:
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
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Yes. There have been several images on sites showing it over the last couple of days.
Aspesi4 said:
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
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Something I would like to know as well.
blazingwolf said:
Something I would like to know as well.
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Me too! Also if Motoblur will be easily ported.
shah_vm said:
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
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Yes, but we don't know about the 1700 Band yet.
Aspesi4 said:
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
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i doubt it anytime soon...first the droid would need to be rooted first then devs can start buildin on it.
I guess DROID will have a better version of MotoBlur. And it can be better then Sense.... This is just my guess.
Actually since it is a Google Experience device it will NOT have motoblur on it.
dakarf said:
Actually since it is a Google Experience device it will NOT have motoblur on it.
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Why "Google Experience device" does not have MotoBlur ?
Is Moto Cliq not "Google Experience device"?
I understand, "Google Experiance (enabled) device" means it has Google's Closed-Source Applications / LIbraries installed, includes Android Market access, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Google sync, etc.
.... Am I wrong?
setupr said:
Why "Google Experience device" does not have MotoBlur ?
Is Moto Cliq not "Google Experience device"?
I understand, "Google Experiance (enabled) device" means it has Google's Closed-Source Applications / LIbraries installed, includes Android Market access, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Google sync, etc.
.... Am I wrong?
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I was wrong, my dear.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26759
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Somehow, Android 2.0 includes MotoBlur's framework in it.
Basic idea of MotoBlur is to integrate phone and social network sites.
This is what Android 2.0 got, and 1.6 did not have at all.
I am thinking Android 2.0 is a better integration of Android 1.6 and MotoBlur.
I dont know how possible this is going to be.
From what i remember reading the sense ui, is dependant on the HTC framework which is a large part of the rom.
Its not just a question of ripping bits out, as is seen with WinMo and TouchFLO.
This is why sense hasnt been ported out to the g1 and instead the are ripping hero roms out and getting them running.
Not sure if the moto blur has the same frame work dependancy as the sense ui does.
joners said:
This is why sense hasnt been ported out to the g1 and instead the are ripping hero roms out and getting them running.
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wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
brian_v3ntura said:
wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
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...That's what he just said. Instead of ripping Sense alone, they're ripping the entire rom is what he was meaning.
brian_v3ntura said:
wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
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Please try and read my post and understand whats being said. That way you wont find the need to make sarcastic comments, its not particulary helpful for anyone else trying to follow the thread.
Just so you know Sense UI isnt a ROM, Sense (aka Rosie) is HTC's Custom UI for Android, closed source im affraid so no direct porting on the any other handset, all you can do is modifiy another phones ROM to run on your hardware.
Is it possible to PORT Sense UI to other devices such as the Sony Ericsson X10, Dell Mini 5 etc?
I really Fancy a Dell Mini 5 but i seriously want Sense UI. I couldnt go back to the Android without it. I wish the Supersonic would just hurry up. I want an Android phone with at least a 4" Screen running Android 2.1....
over at alldroid.org, there is a group of developers under the name Zeusdroid that are working on porting SenseUI over and nearly have it completed besides the RIL or the Radio Interface Link. Due to HTC's special configurations of their ROM that tie into the Radio, there has been some issues with it switching between 3G and 1X to make outgoing calls and then not being able to receive incoming calls.
If there are any season software engineers out there that would be willing to mod the existing RIL to work with the SenseUI rom, please head over to alldroid.org and seen a PM to Greek35T, thegeektern, Birdman or myself.
Thanks,
tallnerd1985
Sorry... but I'm new to the Droid community, but not new to modding.
I've already been through 6 ROMs on my phone... right now on UltimateDroid. It's alright... I need better though.
I've been looking all over... and alldroid is dead. Sadly.
Does anybody know where there might be somebody still working on this and getting it fully functional on the MotoDroid?
I would really love to have SenseUI. And be OCed as fast as I am (Quadrant has BCed me at 1500+ w/ Chevy's 1250 ULV).
Let me know guys... Thanks!
WOW thread necromancy.
There is a user over at droidforums that is working on a sense ui port on the droid 1 from the incredible.
He has a flashable version right now that phone and text work on but no data.
Check this thread.
I'm a Palm Pre user and in love with WebOS, but as we all know Palm is dying and probably won't last through the year. I'm awaiting the EVO but I'm curious to know if it'll be possible to put WebOS on it. I'm not looking to start a WebOS/Android flame-war, I've just gotten used to WebOS in the past year. What do you guys think, is it do-able/worth the time?
Regardless, I'll probably upgrade to the EVO if the price is right
Thanks!
Is it possible? Probably.. Will it happen? Probably not.
There's already a discussion/wish list for WinMo 6.5 to be ported to the Evo, and even that may be a longshot.
But I'd say that has a much better chance of happening than WebOS... But then, anything is possible!
I was thinking that might happen. In that case, if not a complete port of WebOS is it possible to simulate/emulate the "card" system on Android? That's really my favorite part of the OS and what sets it apart from Android. Honestly, If someone could combine both OS's we'd have one hell of a phone.
Thanks!
TaskOS is about as good as you're going to get at the moment, no previews, just icons for running processes, not as flashy as webOS, but the basic functionality is technically there.
still waiting on the announcement of google buying palm for the acquisition of patents to multi-touch that palm owns the rights to.
Along with that would be webOS... give it some time, their stocks are tanking, another quarter of record losses will put them on the table to be bought up.
http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp...5&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NASDAQ:PALM&ntsp=0
Well instead of waiting for someone else to do it, what would I need to do to try to port the OS? Are there any tutorials or instructions available for this sort of thing? Is it standard or does the process vary by phone? I'd love to try it, even try to intergrate some Android functionality -- I think if WebOS and Android were combined it would make the perfect phone OS.
At the very least, would it be possibe to drop the Sense UI from the EVO and just run 2.1?
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Well instead of waiting for someone else to do it, what would I need to do to try to port the OS? Are there any tutorials or instructions available for this sort of thing? Is it standard or does the process vary by phone? I'd love to try it, even try to intergrate some Android functionality -- I think if WebOS and Android were combined it would make the perfect phone OS.
At the very least, would it be possibe to drop the Sense UI from the EVO and just run 2.1?
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webOS isn't open source so you will not be able to compile it.
The open souce part of webOS would be usefull in porting android to a palm phone but not the other way around sadly.
johnsongrantr said:
webOS isn't open source so you will not be able to compile it.
The open souce part of webOS would be usefull in porting android to a palm phone but not the other way around sadly.
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That takes some wind out of my sails. What about dropping the Sense UI in favor of just running 2.1 like the Nexus One?
greymalken said:
That takes some wind out of my sails. What about dropping the Sense UI in favor of just running 2.1 like the Nexus One?
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Go to YouTube and find the video called "Turning an HTC Desire into a Nexus One."
greymalken said:
That takes some wind out of my sails. What about dropping the Sense UI in favor of just running 2.1 like the Nexus One?
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the 2.1 that the nexus one runs is AOSP http://source.android.com/ and a custom built launcher for the nexus (launcher2.apk) which is popular here on xda and is easily obtainable.
These will all come in good time after it's released and rooted and custom roms start popping up. One thing you can hope for as I wish the phone to be successful and bring much attention to wimax in general is that AOSP and cyanogen mods http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ gets ported to the EVO. It's the cleanest version of android without all the crapware that generally comes with feature phones and flagship phones.
Cyanogen mods is where's it's at in the android hacking community. Suggestion if you really get into hacking android, start with AOSP and cyanogen port to the EVO. It will teach you alot about the android OS without all the added htc jazz.
Hope for a quick release of the EVO kernel's source though... once you have that then you can get to work. Without that don't expect much success.
Thanks for the advice! I'll start looking into them as EVO day gets closer. Are there any good tutorials for getting into Android modding/writing apps? Good ones though, not just any result from a google search.
greymalken said:
Thanks for the advice! I'll start looking into them as EVO day gets closer. Are there any good tutorials for getting into Android modding/writing apps? Good ones though, not just any result from a google search.
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like writing apps for anroid? or porting andorid OS? I'm not a programmer, don't know nothing about writing apps, so someone else will have to chime in there.
As far as porting, I do not know of any point and click guides for porting, this is the documented process for the Odroid, it should be relevant to your endeavor. They wrote a step by step for compiling android on Odroid, they do however use Uboot I'm not 100% certian what HTC devices use for their bootstrap.
http://dev.odroid.com/projects/android/
Hopefully that helps some. Good luck.
EDIT: found this for building for the G1
http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream
Hello i would like to know if it's possible to install SonyEricsson's Interface on HTC Hero instead of Sense UI.
Has anyone ever tried to do so?
I cannot say that i am an experienced android user but i think it should not be that hard right???
Thanks in advance
nicknls said:
Hello i would like to know if it's possible to install SonyEricsson's Interface on HTC Hero instead of Sense UI.
Has anyone ever tried to do so?
I cannot say that i am an experienced android user but i think it should not be that hard right???
Thanks in advance
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Wrong
That would be very difficult to do, as the frameworks are totally different due to them being totally different devices
Hmmm I never thought that..... you're right......
Thanks anyway
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it is possible, but as said itd be very difficult. I guess it would require source code modification, a massive amount of T&A and alot more stuff too.
As good as sonys system may be (no flaming from those who hate it), its just not worth the effort
If SE release an android 2.2 version of the software it is more likely to be ported. But due to the fact it is based upon android 1.6 (last i checked) it is old and outdated - meaning despite it's fancy looks it is very limited in features and speed.
Is this possible?
As of right now I think the development are worrying about getting a recovery on our phones and we need the recovery to flash roms unless there's another way...
Not only that but sense is a cpu hog. Such a horrible UI.
CM6 is all I care about getting on here. FB/Twitter integration all exists in 2.1, Sense adds little other than pretty looking widgets.
Isn't cm6 2.2??
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robavila721 said:
Isn't cm6 2.2??
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Yes, I was just referring to the fact that we havent needed Sense UI for anything but pretty widgets since Android SDK 2.1
Why would you want Sense over TouchWiz? If you we're looking for pretty there are lots of HTC Sense packing HTC phones on the market. The myTouch Slide is kind of running an ugly version of Sense but it still is Sense.
One more thing to consider, also. You won't find any reputable developer such as Cyanogen putting sense in their roms because of legality issues. So, if you do happen to come across a rom for this phone running sense, chances are its going to be pretty bunk.
Sense has some very appealing factors, such as the hibernate support and of course, the cosmetics of it
In addition, the new version of HTC sense is supposed to have a lot of optimizations meaning it will be faster than before.
At the very least, is it possible for a dev to port the algorithms used for hibernate to the Vibrant?
Use this. its not sense but its a launcher close to it. has 3d drawer and everything.
sombionix said:
One more thing to consider, also. You won't find any reputable developer such as Cyanogen putting sense in their roms because of legality issues. So, if you do happen to come across a rom for this phone running sense, chances are its going to be pretty bunk.
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but there are many more reputable developers then CM
kingkurry said:
Is this possible?
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Possible? perhaps...
Desireable? perhaps not...
Likely? Given the legal issues involved? not very...
I am also interested in this.. But to be honest if it where to happen, it won't happen until the developers get the source code for 2.2 and haber time to play with it.
So, if we are lucky and someone does decide to work on this.. knowing the possible legal issues. It would take a few weeks (after official 2.2) to get it done.
But I have no doubt in my mind that it would work in our phones.
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KingKlik(sp?) made a lot of sense roms for the MT3G and a lot of people seemed to like them. I just think Sense looks terrible, compared to any UI on any new age smartphone I have seen(except maybe Windows Mobile). I'm mainly talking about the launcher tough, the part that people for some reason like to throw on their phone even if they don't have sense.