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I'm down to 15% and It says its been on for 1 hour 30 minutes while my phones been unplugged for 9 hours and 30 minutes, but it used 68% of battery? Is the screen the biggest battery hog?
My tws is 11%
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All of it.
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All of it.
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pretty much.
Screen use always tops my battery use by a large large large margin.
I always thought the AMOLED screens were supposed to be super battery efficient, but it always seems like its the thing totally KILLING battery life. Compared the battery usage to an evo with a standard LCD screen and even though its larger, it uses vastly less power.
I owned the EVO before and while I was thinking about getting the epic, I read a lot about AMOLED technology. I posted a bunch in July about my findings.
Regarding Power Consumption I posted this in July:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7271721#post7271721
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7403102#post7403102
It turns out that AMOLED uses 3 times as much power as LCD when displaying text on white backgrounds...ouch. I stand by my decision to purchase the Epic however. The Battery life is actually a little better than what I got on the EVO.
muyoso said:
I always thought the AMOLED screens were supposed to be super battery efficient, but it always seems like its the thing totally KILLING battery life. Compared the battery usage to an evo with a standard LCD screen and even though its larger, it uses vastly less power.
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They are for the most part, and there's more progress to be made in those regards, but it's conditional. For all white, it can uses more power, for something like watching a movie, the AMOLED wins. I think part of it, though, is that the rest of the phone is just ridiculously efficient. Either way, it looks fantastic.
How is the battery holding up for most folks?
I've been using Atrix for a few hours tonight (perhaps a bit more than normal use was on my Nexus) and I've already used 50%. Thats pretty crappy for whats proclaimed to be a large, long-lasting battery.
What should I be doing to improve battery life on this device?
Thanks.
I've seen the same poor battery performance. I'm hoping after being on the charger all night I'll see the battery performance that I've read about.
nexusonemeover said:
How is the battery holding up for most folks?
I've been using Atrix for a few hours tonight (perhaps a bit more than normal use was on my Nexus) and I've already used 50%. Thats pretty crappy for whats proclaimed to be a large, long-lasting battery.
What should I be doing to improve battery life on this device?
Thanks.
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It's called "New Battery Syndrome give it a week, you will settle into your normal usage pattern and you will really see fantastic battery life.
Pretty much, you have a new toy, you want to play with it as much as possible, thus you run it more than you may have used your previous devices thus effectively running the battery down faster.
Mine seems to be pretty great. Have had the display on for about two hours straight and it only drained 20%
naturefreak probably nailed it. most batteries seem to last longer after they've been discharged and recharged a few times.... on top of playing with it for probably just about the entire day..... BOUND to see less-than-expected battery life.
I don't want to ruin the moment... but any info about battery life on Nexus 4?
I don't want to waste ~u$s360 with a device that longs 4/5 hours...
Thanks.
And how are we supposed to gather this type of information?
Wait for hands on reviews!
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I don't want to ruin the moment... but any info about battery life on Nexus 4?
I don't want to waste ~u$s360 with a device that longs 4/5 hours...
Thanks.
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is the only question that I
According to gsmarena, it has a 2100 mah battery
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Yeah, the big downside of a non-removable battery is the inability to upgrade if the battery life sucks. I can go over 24 hours on my Sensation with moderate use thanks to the extended battery I purchased for it.
It's a far cry from the GNexs 1750mAh battery, the 2100mAh battery in this should last a little longer.
I heard somewhere (for the life of me I cannot remember where) that it has somewhere around 12 hours talk-time. Of course that's yet to be confirmed...
well your basically getting a gnex with 350mah extra battery. and this time they are using a Li-polymer battery instead of the normal Li-ion so the battery will not degrade in about 2 years it will still hold a good charge.
anything's better than the iPhone 5's 1700 mAh batter
As seen in the pdf manual, there are only two little screws keeping you from removing the battery
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CJHolderUK said:
anything's better than the iPhone 5's 1700 mAh batter
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1440 mAh.
That said, it's not only about mAh -- the iP5 holds pretty close to the Maxx from a lot of reviews.
Zurginator said:
1440 mAh.
That said, it's not only about mAh -- the iP5 holds pretty close to the Maxx from a lot of reviews.
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Exactly. But Android phones, particularly the high-end ones, require an added boost. The iPhone 5 doesn't need the extra battery power; Apple have been very clever when it comes to power consumption. It's impressive.
ethanj93 said:
well your basically getting a gnex with 350mah extra battery. and this time they are using a Li-polymer battery instead of the normal Li-ion so the battery will not degrade in about 2 years it will still hold a good charge.
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Plus, no battery hungry CPU or screen like the Gnex!
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As seen in the pdf manual, there are only two little screws keeping you from removing the battery
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That, and probably some glue
I took a review concerning this topic:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-O...-Galaxy-S-III-claims-an-LG-experiment_id35585
LG Optimus also has 2100mAh (I know, doesn't have to be same manufacteur) and the same components and it has a really good battery life.
Always better than S3.
+ LG says that their battery has more charging cycles. In the data sheet of Nexus 4 and Optimus G it says 800 instead of the usual 500:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-O...fe-cycle-and-brighter-True-HD-display_id33706
+ (OT) really flat display so you don't feel the distance of your fnger to the screen (same source)
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As seen in the pdf manual, there are only two little screws keeping you from removing the battery
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Nice!
2100mAh should be pretty good, especially without LTE.
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One other small thing to note, the battery is a bit higher voltage than your standard cell. 3.8v vs 3.6v, so that works out to 7.98Wh vs 7.56Wh.
manlisten said:
Yeah, the big downside of a non-removable battery is the inability to upgrade if the battery life sucks. I can go over 24 hours on my Sensation with moderate use thanks to the extended battery I purchased for it.
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Mine was giving me about 36 hrs with moderate use on ARHD ? Like a year ago ? Besides this phone will have so many kernels and rooms to choose from in like a month or so that will help you get better management of it that I just don't see it being an issue ??? And chances are you might not even have it after two years when the battery starts degrading ...
I had the note 3 the battery was terrible and i really thought we'd be getting atleast 4000mah as some websites stated but 3220mah aren't you guys concern? Seems like a joke to me.
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I was under the impression that the Note 3 had pretty good battery life... at least that was what I was able to discern from reviews.
Can someone else who also owned the Note 3 chime in?
Watch this and you won't be concerned about battery any more:
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&sour...Ot9BGMeI02GwNY_Zw&sig2=jB_BFvUf5EMKyJdT_ZwXOw
This video shows that the Galaxy S5 with Snapdragon 805 and QHD Display doesn't use more battery than the "old" Galaxy S5. So Samsung seems to have found good ways for battery saving.
I am not concern. I plan to get 2 extra battery and a external charger. The Note 3 version was like $30. Whick brand is good? Anker?
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I was under the impression that the Note 3 had pretty good battery life... at least that was what I was able to discern from reviews.
Can someone else who also owned the Note 3 chime in?
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You would be correct. The Note 3 Battery life was pretty damn good. I never had issues with it, and if you look over the N3 forum you'll see some pretty outstanding results :good:
I expect the N4 to have been tweaked a little and the battery to be either on par or at least very very similar to the N3.
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I had the note 3 the battery was terrible and i really thought we'd be getting atleast 4000mah as some websites stated but 3220mah aren't you guys concern? Seems like a joke to me.
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The Note 3 was widely regarded as having some of the best battery life for any phone of that time.
If anything wall hugging iphone users have something to be worried about with their copycat device, "Retina HD" welcome to 2012 Apple and the battery size, hardly a mention because we KNOW its smaller than Samsungs.
My note 3 has pretty decent battery life. Just make sure to disable a bunch of stuff that you don't need for best results.
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sofia-captivate said:
I had the note 3 the battery was terrible and i really thought we'd be getting atleast 4000mah as some websites stated but 3220mah aren't you guys concern? Seems like a joke to me.
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since 4.4.2 update WiFi battery usage increased. so i got battery drain...
But i change setting to turn off WiFi when screen off and Battery Life became normal
On Note 4 they claimed for more optimization for power + UltraPower Saving mode...
so we have to wait for reviews and our experiences...
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Even though I was disappointed they didn't include a bigger battery, I'm not concerned about battery usage on Note 4. I don't think they would've made a big deal about battery usage the and better performance on the Note 4, if they didn't have something to back that up. It would've been much simpler to not mention the 7% improvement, or just say they increased the battery by 20mAh. I'm expecting a somewhat better performance compared to the Note 3, which is fine.
Dat Noob said:
Even though I was disappointed they didn't include a bigger battery, I'm not concerned about battery usage on Note 4. I don't think they would've made a big deal about battery usage the and better performance on the Note 4, if they didn't have something to back that up. It would've been much simpler to not mention the 7% improvement, or just say they increased the battery by 20mAh. I'm expecting a somewhat better performance compared to the Note 3, which is fine.
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The battery is still bigger than the iphone 6+'s and you can always swap it out and with quick charge feature 0-50% in 30 minutes, how long does an iphone take?
It's not how big the battery is, but how it's used. I have Note 3 and I saw as much as 40% drain overnight, when phone was not used at all, right after updating to KitKat and I also managed to have as little as 1% drain overnight, after killing some of bloatware. I can't pinpoint anything in particular, but it could be more than one program. Right now for example Google search is draining my battery more than all other programs combined and I'm not doing anything with the phone at all. I don't want to kill it, since I use it sometimes, but if it keeps doing it I may have no choice. Anyhow if Note 3 is working properly it can have fantastic battery life.
According to what I read so far Note 4 screen should be something like 14% more efficient than older version, despite having higher resolution, CPU and rest of hardware should be at last as good as older models and there should be ultra power saving mode, so I wouldn't worry about power that much, unless some program or programs crash and go bananas, but at least software issues can be fixed, just a matter of effort. For example many claim factory reset fixes excessive battery drain right after firmware update, which I had personally.
If you are concerned, you could always buy a ZeroLemon battery.
Here's the report on Note 4 screen. Remember display consumes the most energy of anything.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Comparison with the Galaxy Note 3:
The Galaxy Note 4 is 14 percent more power efficient than the Galaxy Note 3. This is due primarily to a 19 percent improvement
in the power efficiency of the Green Primary channel (materials and electronics). The results are scaled for the same Luminance.
Comparison with LCDs:
While LCDs remain more power efficient for images with mostly white content (like text screens, for example), OLEDs are now
more power efficient for mixed image content because they are emissive displays so their power varies with the Average Picture
Level (average Brightness) of the image content. For LCDs the display power is independent of image content. OLEDs have
been rapidly improving in their power efficiency. In fact, the Galaxy Note 4 is 40 percent more power efficient than the
Full HD LCD Smartphones we tested for mixed image content (that includes photos, videos, and movies, for example)
with a typical 50 percent Average Picture Level, APL.
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SOC should use the same power as other Snapdragon 805 powered devices (hint: Qualcomm generally makes pretty power efficient smartphones).
Since I usually start this thread I thought I would get it up here and ready to go!
Post all of your information regarding battery life, on screen times, tweaks, and tips here!
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Since I usually start this thread I thought I would get it up here and ready to go!
Post all of your information regarding battery life, on screen times, tweaks, and tips here!
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Since i always post the same problem, battery life could be better, will probably get 8-9 hours, with 3-4 screen time. Gonna keep it stock kernal so its more stable.
i think 2800 mah battery not enough for daily usage
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i think 2800 mah battery not enough for daily usage
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It's 2600 mAh, not 2800 mAh. And why do you think it won't be enough? They're probably making AMOLED even more efficient than it was last year and the new Exynos SoC is up to 30% more efficient than current offers because of the 14 nm half node.
They are slapping power user in the face with non removable battery. Now instead of carrying spare battery I need to bring a chunky PowerBank. Can't Samsung realize they are not apple and they abandon their core audience do them no good?
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It's 2600 mAh, not 2800 mAh. And why do you think it won't be enough? They're probably making AMOLED even more efficient than it was last year and the new Exynos SoC is up to 30% more efficient than current offers because of the 14 nm half node.
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is it not possible to insert 3000 mAh battery to s6? it won't be more usefull for users? why samsung still parsimonious? s5 has 2800 mAh battery & s4 has 2600 mAh battery and s6 will come with 2600 mAh battery. sometimes i can't understand to Samsung.
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is it not possible to insert 3000 mAh battery to s6? it won't be more usefull for users? why samsung still parsimonious? s5 has 2800 mAh battery & s4 has 2600 mAh battery and s6 will come with 2600 mAh battery. sometimes i can't understand to Samsung.
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Like I said, if these rumors get confirmed, it's quite possible that the GS6 will perform better than current smartphones, even with a smaller battery. Which in that case allows a slimmer, lighter device.
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If the phone is getting a QHD Screen I doubt that there will be any better battery results than the other mainstream smartphones.
Just compare the Note 3 vs Note 4.
What about a poll with:
a) I want a phone slim like a post card with 3-5 hours SOT
b) I want a phone slim like a S3/One/Lumia with 12-15 hours SOT
LINK to GSMARENA Battery Leaks
It seems like a non removable battery with 2600mAh
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-11252.php
The QHD on the Korean S5 LTE-A had about the same battery life as the US variant. Therefore, the QHD on the S6 should have the same...if not better battery life even with a smaller 2600 battery. I wouldn't worry too much about...my only complaint is that it'll be non-removable
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s5-lte-a-battery-benchmark-414550/
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Like I said, if these rumors get confirmed, it's quite possible that the GS6 will perform better than current smartphones, even with a smaller battery. Which in that case allows a slimmer, lighter device.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
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i see bro. thanks for your explanation. i think you will buy a GS6 when it available for users
Since S6 was said to use Exynos7420 instead of Qualcomm........the consumption of cortex A57 would exceed A15 and Krait a lot according to Anandtech
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What about a poll with:
a) I want a phone slim like a post card with 3-5 hours SOT
b) I want a phone slim like a S3/One/Lumia with 12-15 hours SOT
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I'll take Option C. A phone that is 12mm thin and has more like 20 hours of SOT.
There's no point in making super powerful smartphones, if we can't use them like the pocket sized PCs that they have evolved into. I'm sure there are many people who would love to use their phone to get actual work done without having to worry about the battery. Also, since batteries wear out over time, I'd rather have a bigger battery than what would seem to be big enough at first.
pikatchu said:
If the phone is getting a QHD Screen I doubt that there will be any better battery results than the other mainstream smartphones.
Just compare the Note 3 vs Note 4.
What about a poll with:
a) I want a phone slim like a post card with 3-5 hours SOT
b) I want a phone slim like a S3/One/Lumia with 12-15 hours SOT
LINK to GSMARENA Battery Leaks
It seems like a non removable battery with 2600mAh
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-11252.php
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Because the CPU/GPU only within the same generation range on 1080P(note3) and 2K(note4) though on paper spec. the latter one should be a lot better but still same generation and indeed that kind of power isn't enough to push 2K. Hence, the CPU/GPU will always require to run at a higher clock and battery draining even just on 2D.
S6 is running a whole new CPU with 14nm manufacturing process, the situation should be much better though but I agreed 1080P is enough on a tiny screen and I also prefer more battery life.
Is the battery removable?
I don't think so
The battery will NOT be 2600 for the MILLIONTH TIME. IT'S ANNOYING ME HOW blind all these websites and you lot are. The info is right in front of you the batteries were for G925 WHICH IS THE CODE FOR THE S EDGE. NOT S6
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? S6 WILL BE MORE JUST LIKE WITH THE NOTE
NOTE 4 BATTERY 3220
NOTE EDGE BATTERY 3000
NOW STOP SAYING IT'LL BE 2600.
Its funny to see how rumors, leaks and teasers mess with people's brains and expectations, the media really knows how to get in your heads. We will know by sunday's time, then all of you will really have something solid to criticize until the next device comes up, so just hang in there. I just hope it lasts me the whole day on moderate use, so that I can charge it overnight
Butthurt much?
Battery size difference of 200 mah is meaningless. What matters is actual battery performance. Is there a correlation? Sure. Does every phone last same length of time with the same capacity battery? Hell, no.
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Heard it is not, but I hope it is.
We will see next week.