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Will US T-Mobile phone work on European GSM900/1800 ?

Hi everybody.
Does anyone can confirm the American 900/1900 T-Mobile works on European (I live in the Ukraine) GSM 900/1800 ?
Thanks,
Igor.

only if your provider supports 900
only if your provider supports 900. It will not work on the 1800 obviously
I suggest the following URL's...
About finding information:
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/search.php
About your question:
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=251&highlight=900+1800+1900
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=372&highlight=900+1800+1900
and some extra info
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=196&highlight=900+1800+1900
Robert

Thanks Robert.

Can Someone explain the triband thing?
Could someone explain 800/1800/1900 to me in terms of functionality differences and geographic regions. What I'm trying to figure out is, since I live in the states when I buy a 800/1900 version will it work just about anywhere as well? Geographic regions of my travels: Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, South America.
Sorry for the newbie question followup.

Hi, 900 (not 800) should work everywhere. At least in Europe and Asia.
1800 works only in Europe/Asia. 1900 works ONLY in the U.S.
HTH.
Igor.

HSDPA - International Roadmaps

As we are an international community here I'd like to use the "collective brain" of this forum to get a screenshot of the HSDPA roadmaps of mobile operators worldwide.
So I'd like to ask everybody herewith to contribute on the HSDPA plans of the operators in your home countries.
To start this thread here the status within Austria:
Country: Austria - AT
Operator: Mobilkom Austria
Launch of HSDPA: now
Device promoted: Vodafone Mobile Connect Card
Special Price Plans: no
Data Price Plans: yes (e.g. 500MB for EUR 29)

Sounds like you on of the first in the west to get it. South Africa (Vodacom) will launch on 2 April 2006.

I am currently in Israel, and as far as I understand from the media - Orange Israel (one of the local GSM providers), has announced that HSDPA is currently operated by them.

In Germany both T-Mobile and vodafone offer HSDPA since CeBIT, and seem to also offer a PC card for it.

USA
USA has HSPDA however it is tuned to the 1900mhz band so it doesn't work

SPAIN
What is HSPDA¿

hspda
hspda is a next gen of 3g that will eventually support high bandwidth however they are diffrent technologies and hspda in the usa runs on the 1900mhz band. These are both UTMS.

Which Nexus Model for UK O2 use.

Basically as the title suggests........possibly being a bit dim, but would prefer confirmation that I am about to buy the correct/best model for UK use.
There are 2 sim free models, which do I need...?
The 2nd one appears to me to be "The One"
Can someone please confirm this for me.. I am buying today

Presumably you do *not* want to buy the cdma one... You should buy the one that is compatible with the t-mobile network if the UK is the country you're going to be using it in.

peadarog said:
Presumably you do *not* want to buy the cdma one... You should buy the one that is compatible with the t-mobile network if the UK is the country you're going to be using it in.
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Your post is appreciated...thanks

Choose the model that was first released, it works perfect on Orange and O2

nDrg said:
Choose the model that was first released, it works perfect on Orange and O2
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And T-Mobile UK

If you plan on traveling to North America, the 850/1900 UMTS network here is bigger than the 1700/2100. If you plan on traveling to Asia and I think Australia, there are a few networks that use the 900 band.
It doesn't matter which GSM model you get if you are only counting UK networks.

My query revolves around the google ordering site, both options appear pretty similar...
Initially I thought it was option 2 I needed but now it doesn't really matter, if I understand the replies above. I will mainly be UK based but will be in Europe occasionally.
3G is essential for obvious reasons.
1. Compatible with 3G on T-Mobile (U.S.)
Supports three 3G/UMTS bands (900/AWS/2100 MHz) and four GSM radio frequencies (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
2. Compatible with 3G on AT&T (U.S.) and these wireless providers in Canada.
Supports three 3G/UMTS bands (850/1900/2100 MHz) and four GSM radio frequencies (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)

Get the one that as originally released. I have one & am using it on O2 UK & work great. No issues.

JAW$ said:
Get the one that as originally released. I have one & am using it on O2 UK & work great. No issues.
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Argh.....this is my question ?? which one is that from the choice of 2 on the google site.

I have seen you post in a couple of Forums and from what I have read they say get the T-MOBILE version, that is the BEST for T-MOBIL UK O2, that is the first one released,

arimus said:
I have seen you post in a couple of Forums and from what I have read they say get the T-MOBILE version, that is the BEST for T-MOBIL UK O2, that is the first one released,
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At last.........thanks for being clear and to the point.

Although both versions will work perfectly fine in the UK (all UK carriers use the 2100 UTMS band for 3G), it really depends if you ever plan on using it abroad.
Europe, Asia, Africas and Oceania (everywhere else but Americas basically) you are better off getting the 900/AWS/2100 "US T-Mobile" version as most carriers use 900/2100 band around the world.
Americas (both North and South) you are better with the 850/1900/2100 "US AT&T" version as the majority use the 850/1900 band.
I myself have the 900/AWS/2100 version because most of my usage abroad are either in Europe (France/Italy) or in Asia (Hong Kong/China). You can check the frequency band usage yourself at Wikipedia so you can lookup your favourite carriers if needed.

difference between "a" and "i"

What is the difference between the two and can you make an "a" an "i"?

the differences are the 3g frequencies that they support
i forgot the exact bands but i know that the x10a supports us atnt, rogers canada, and telstra australia 3g bands. the x10i supports asia and european 3g bands

The difference is pronouncation. Also a is the first letter in the alphabet while i is the 9th. I don't think you can make i into a and vice versa.
PS. You can make [email protected] and vice versa but it causes SEUS problems.

x10i and x10a both have the same GSM network frequency as 850/900/1800/1900, or you can call as as Edge network as well. As for the 3G frequency or UMTS bandwidth, here is the difference:
x10i
UMTS: 900/1700/2100 MHz
it will support Asia / Europe / and T-Mobile USA 3G network.
X10a
UMTS: 800/850/1900/2100 MHz
like dorifuto.boi said, it will support AT&T US, Roger Canada, Teltra Australia. It also support Japanese Do-co-mo 3G network as well.
You may wanna check with your current service provider and ask them which UMTS bandwidth they fall into the above category. Again, this is for GSM network only. If you are using Sprint, Verizon, etc they are in differenet as they are in CDMA network.

To further add to your comments
SE uses the a or I for country variants
A - America's (Canada, US & Latin America) Support these bands
I - International (Europe, Asia, Middle east etc) support these bands

thanks for the info. I received and "a" as a gift, but am not able to get on tmobile3g. Only getting edge, but it runs fine.

nkn_1 said:
thanks for the info. I received and "a" as a gift, but am not able to get on tmobile3g. Only getting edge, but it runs fine.
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a - AT & T
i - tmobile
Just find somebody here on the forum and exchange the phones

njfpolyr6 said:
x10i
UMTS: 900/1700/2100 MHz
it will support Asia / Europe / and T-Mobile USA 3G network.
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As well as WIND Mobile in Canada
njfpolyr6 said:
X10a
UMTS: 800/850/1900/2100 MHz
like dorifuto.boi said, it will support AT&T US, Roger Canada, Teltra Australia. It also support Japanese Do-co-mo 3G network as well.
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Bell and Telus have 3G (only) networks in Canada in these bands

By the way... it is technically possible to build a phone that works on all the 3G bands, so that it would not be required an "a" and an "i" version?

the Nokia n8 is like that. 5 band 3g. but the x10 is not

quanganhle90 said:
the Nokia n8 is like that. 5 band 3g. but the x10 is not
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Yes it is - for some weird reason t-mobile was included in the international version, and AT&T was on the American version... But the facts is, that both versions have 2100 MHz 3G which is the most used 3G band worldwide... As I see it, you will just have to go into a secret menu and then check off some other boxes, and then it should be able to use the other 3G bands!
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just because they both have 2100 doesn't mean ATT and t-mobile are using them. personally they should have made 1 model with quad band 3g. better for everyone.

nkn_1 said:
thanks for the info. I received and "a" as a gift, but am not able to get on tmobile3g. Only getting edge, but it runs fine.
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I have a X10i but for my operetor I need a X10a. I will apreciate to change my model with you

lornova said:
By the way... it is technically possible to build a phone that works on all the 3G bands, so that it would not be required an "a" and an "i" version?
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technically yes
RIM has this
blackberry's band can be swtiched by changing the fw.

will UK version work in US 3G and EDGE

will UK version work with US t-mobile or ATT 3G? EDGE?

Only on Edge.
The 3G bands on the UK version are 900/2100 which will never work in the US.

whats the difference between EDGE and 3G?

citrix80 said:
whats the difference between EDGE and 3G?
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Pretty sure Edge is significantly slower?
Been told Edge is good for email but **** else.

citrix80 said:
whats the difference between EDGE and 3G?
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Answer here

clove website just updated to 900/1700/2100 MHz . will that make any difference?

citrix80 said:
clove website just updated to 900/1700/2100 MHz . will that make any difference?
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Those are the 3G frequencies for T-Mobile US, so maybe Dell is producing only 1 version and that is what Clove expects they will get,and its quite possible the 900/2100 bands will work fine in Europe but that will have to be confirmed.

but UK version would work on both att and t-mobile edge?

citrix80 said:
but UK version would work on both att and t-mobile edge?
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The UK version listed previously only had 900/2100 3G bands, that will only give you EDGE on both T-Mobile and at&t.

What about the US version in the UK?

Peew971 said:
What about the US version in the UK?
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It might, see my 1st post above.

efjay said:
It might, see my 1st post above.
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US version should work fine since its 900/1700/2100. It has the base 900/2100 bands.

so US version can work in UK 3g? UK version cannot work with US 3g .

citrix80 said:
so US version can work in UK 3g? UK version cannot work with US 3g .
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yes. US version has the 900/2100 bands that UK needs.
UK version does not have the 1700, 850 or 1900 bands that US needs.

Se4nH4x said:
yes. US version has the 900/2100 bands that UK needs.
UK version does not have the 1700, 850 or 1900 bands that US needs.
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what about asia? I think europe and asia are same.
US really sucks on this one. world phone suppose to work all around the world.

citrix80 said:
what about asia? I think europe and asia are same.
US really sucks on this one. world phone suppose to work all around the world.
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Well check this site out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
2100 works in: Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania (Telstra, Optus, Vodafone AU, Three Mobile AU), Brazil
900 works in: Europe[1], Asia, Oceania (Optus, Vodafone AU, Vodafone NZ), Dominican Republic (Orange), Venezuela (Digitel GSM)
1700 works in: USA (T-Mobile, Cincinnati Bell Wireless), Canada (WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, Videotron)

Se4nH4x said:
Well check this site out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
2100 works in: Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania (Telstra, Optus, Vodafone AU, Three Mobile AU), Brazil
900 works in: Europe[1], Asia, Oceania (Optus, Vodafone AU, Vodafone NZ), Dominican Republic (Orange), Venezuela (Digitel GSM)
1700 works in: USA (T-Mobile, Cincinnati Bell Wireless), Canada (WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, Videotron)
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I still dont understand. is 1700 and 2100 required for t-mobile or only 1700?
if only one, then clove listed 900/1700/2100 MHz should work.

citrix80 said:
I still dont understand. is 1700 and 2100 required for t-mobile or only 1700?
if only one, then clove listed 900/1700/2100 MHz should work.
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Naw with T-Mobile you definitely need 1700. Guaranteed. I spent a lot of time googling it.
But oh wow, clove edited the frequencies on their website to 900/1700/2100. That is amazing. I could buy it from them now.

If you guys are in the US what aren't you ordering from Dell? And they have the 16GB too.

Peew971 said:
If you guys are in the US what aren't you ordering from Dell? And they have the 16GB too.
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I thought it would be cheaper from UK. i still dont know the final price in US yet.