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Hi!Can i use an unlocked hermes,(apart from the tytn),in any country round the world?Anybody tried doing so??Thanks!
No mobile works in every country around the world.
I think that answer is a bit terse. A quad-band phone like the Hermes can be used in virtually any country. Take a look here, and you'll see that with the 850, 900, 1800 & 1900 MHz bands covered there's not many countries you can't get a signal in.
http://www.coveragemaps.com/gsmposter_freqbands.htm
I'm not familiar with Japanese requirements, but while it stands out as having a different set of requirements, I'm reasonably sure the Hermes works there too.
Testing it out in every single country could be a bit of a large proposition though.
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I think that answer is a bit terse. A quad-band phone like the Hermes can be used in virtually any country. Take a look here, and you'll see that with the 850, 900, 1800 & 1900 MHz bands covered there's not many countries you can't get a signal in.
http://www.coveragemaps.com/gsmposter_freqbands.htm
I'm not familiar with Japanese requirements, but while it stands out as having a different set of requirements, I'm reasonably sure the Hermes works there too.
Testing it out in every single country could be a bit of a large proposition though.
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So add the countries with 850/1900/2100 UMTS to the GSM list, and you'll have a comprehensive list... and yes, Japan uses 2100 UMTS, so you can add that one, too.
That just leaves the wierd 1700 spectrum .. wonder if any country is running that ..
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That just leaves the wierd 1700 spectrum .. wonder if any country is running that ..
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Not yet and probably not for a few years...
So in short,if i unlock the device,i may be able to use its phone capabilities on any carrier in the whole world,provided the carrier uses one of the 4 bands for communicating.The carrier may be anyone apart from the tmobile,o2,orange,cingular,vodafone?!
Yes ... you can use an unlocked TyTN on any carrier in the world that has one of the 7 bands that TyTN supports (4 GSM + 3 UMTS) ..
Ok thanks...the reason behind that question is that i'm going to Mauritius(a lost island situated in the indian ocean, beside reunion island) for a few weeks..And i wanted to be sure that my unlocked m3100 would work perfectly there...Anyway, thanks for ypur kind support..
Ahha .. Mauritius .. You are lucky my friend .. what a beautiful place from what I have heard .. enjoy your trip ..
Thanks,mauritius,the paradise on earth,here i come!
Thanks,mauritius,the paradise on earth,here i come!
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That just leaves the wierd 1700 spectrum .. wonder if any country is running that ..
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Not yet and probably not for a few years...
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Update: At the end of Nov 2006 T-Mobile won FCC auctions in 120 US markets for spectrum licenses in the 2100 and 1700 frequency bands. It is reported they will start rolling out service during 2007 (Sources: T-Mobile US Press Releases and Wikipedia). So the answer now appears to be, yes, the 1700 spectrum will be used extensively by T-Mobile USA.
I am not personally aware of any HTC phones which support 1700 yet. I am no engineer, but my assumption is that this could not be done through software upgrades on any existing devices. I imagine it will require different radio hardware. Clarification from the experts on this forum would be much appreciated.
Just a note of caution I've tried to use an unlocked VPA compact III in Barbados on the Bmobile network, but I can't geta signal. If I use a vodafone card I manage to get a signal, so I'm not sure all carriers support this phone.
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I am not personally aware of any HTC phones which support 1700 yet. I am no engineer, but my assumption is that this could not be done through software upgrades on any existing devices. I imagine it will require different radio hardware. Clarification from the experts on this forum would be much appreciated.
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Yes, a software upgrade cannot physically synthesize circuitry to support the 1700Mhz frequency channel.
Looking at the hermes architecture, their LNA's have just enough frequency coverage to support the 7 bands. So the answer is a concrete no in re: 1700MHz.
It is possible to deisgn an LNA with a larger bandwidth, for example, to cover frequencies from 1500MHZ to 2300MHZ configurable via MEMS capacitors and inductors (I have a PhD student working on this atm, but he is facing the problem of keeping up the gain as well as linearity of the amplifier). Motivation for this: the fewer LNA's the less power a device will consuming yielding greater battery life.
HTC maybe should think about hardware re-configurability as well, but then again, they would like to make their devices obselete ASAP.
NO, you cannot use it worldwide
I could not receive a signal in Brazil with my 8525. Others reported the same problem with the Samsung Blackjack. Cingular has not provided a solution to our problem.
I hope the band select hack that I found on this great XDA forum will let me use my unlocked 8525 in Brazil next time I go in March.
Australia, if I recall, was also a problem for a Blackjack user. See the Blackjack thread on the Cingular forum for details on our tribulations.
Rgds
Ben
I have used my TyTN in the USA, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore, Philippines and Hong Kong all with no problems. All locations outside the USA were with pre-paid local SIM cards (except Japan and Taiwan, which were roaming on Cingular).
Are the people having problems using a Cingular SIM (and roaming), or using a local pre-paid card?
I got full coverage in the Geylang District in Singapore. full bars.
Am I right to understand that an 8525 purchased from Cingular is locked to Cingular and in order to use in another country it would need to be unlocked prior to inserting another sim card? Would I simply ask Cingular to provide the unlock code for such use?
I'm having a Problem using a local pre-paid SIM card in Barbados, if I Roam on Vodafone which is my original carrier then it's no problem at all
Hi,
The official specs of T-mobile's HD2 says that the supported 3G bands are: WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
Does it mean it will work on European 2100 MHz 3G too? Nexus one does so I suspect HD2 could too but as far as I could digg nobody had a straight answer to this question yet.
-AlefSin
actually i asked HTC CS before, and the answer is NO!
european countries WCDMA frequencies are the same with ASIAN countries. So no chance for European countries either.
hmmm I don't know JohnQ. In your attached email HTC is saying China's frequencies are different from the rest of the world so how do you say it's the same as Europe? I don't know much about 3G network in China though.
Just a few weeks back it was annoounced that the US operators had all signed up to migrating to the rest of the wold's GSM standards!
So in time we will all be singing from the same hymn sheet!
Accoridng to Wikipedia, while 3G in China is using the same frequencies as Europe in UMTS-I band, the air interface is different (TD-SCDMA vs TD-CDMA).
(sorry, cannot link to the docs since as junior member cannot embed links yet).
pa49 said:
Just a few weeks back it was annoounced that the US operators had all signed up to migrating to the rest of the wold's GSM standards!
So in time we will all be singing from the same hymn sheet!
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Wow, that's... odd! It seems US operators cannot even agree whinin US and now they all want to use the rest of world's standards! That's so un-american!
At&T, rogers, etc are all using european 3G frequencies, which is why you can use device from europe on their networks.
T-mobile US uses 1700 & 2100 (one for up stream, one for downstream) which is why it won't work on at&t etc or european frequencies.
The t-mobile 3G phones use both 1700 and 2100 at the same time; and they cant use 2100 seperately on other networks.
erm att uses 850/1900,and very few operators use the same,none in Europe use these bands
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hmmm I don't know JohnQ. In your attached email HTC is saying China's frequencies are different from the rest of the world so how do you say it's the same as Europe? I don't know much about 3G network in China though.
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you can check though. google it
Yes it does!
alefsin said:
Hi,
The official specs of T-mobile's HD2 says that the supported 3G bands are: WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
Does it mean it will work on European 2100 MHz 3G too? Nexus one does so I suspect HD2 could too but as far as I could digg nobody had a straight answer to this question yet.
-AlefSin
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I've tested mine on a 3G only network (2100mhz) and it works fine. What I mean by "only" is that the Digi Mobil in Romania works only on 2100Mhz.
I hope it helps!
GG
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you can check though. google it
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I did, check post #5
Well, it seems the answer is negative. I asked HTC:
Hi, I'm very excited about HTC HD2 on T-Mobile USA. However there is a cruicial question taht I could not find an answer for yet: Should I get this phone, when I travel to Europe, can I use 3G? The specs say this phone will support AWS/2100 MHz UMTS. Since the 2100 MHz is the dominant frequency for western european 3G networks, does it mean this phone would work on their 3G networks? Nobody at T-mobile's support could answer me so I hope you could solve this mystery.
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And they answered:
Thank you for contacting HTC Technical Assistance Center. I understand the importance in researching a phone before you purchase it. This is a unusual situation and one T-mobile may not have been experienced with. For T-mobiles network the phone will be using the 1700 and 2100 bands. Although the 2100 band is common world wide. allowing the phone to pick up the edge network. T-mobile uses the 1700 for there 3G services. This band as far as we are aware is only used by T-mobile when it comes to major carriers world wide. More then likely the phone would not be able to pick up 3g if taken over seas.
However. T-mobile dose have a few branches in Europe. You may wish to check with them to see what bands they use for 3G, and if they have had any conflicts with American phones.
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wmfreak said:
I've tested mine on a 3G only network (2100mhz) and it works fine. What I mean by "only" is that the Digi Mobil in Romania works only on 2100Mhz.
I hope it helps!
GG
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But T-mobile's HD2 is not out yet! Are you sure you didn't test European HD2?
OK things are starting to get weird. I received a negative answer from HTC's customer support but then I found USA T-mobile G1 users that reported their phones were working on 2100 MHz 3G in Europe (G1 like US T-mobile version of HD2 only supports 1700/2100 MHz 3G). I need to buy a phone and these contradictory reports leave me confused
Here is what T-mobile says in the specs sheet of the new HD2:
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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Isn't it interesting that 2100 Mhz is listed both separately and in with combintaion with 1700 Mhz?
JohnQ said:
actually i asked HTC CS before, and the answer is NO!
european countries WCDMA frequencies are the same with ASIAN countries. So no chance for European countries either.
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nice email address you have in that picture John
I tested my unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Sweden using 3's network and worked like a charm in 3G
Bit of a bump here as I'm trying to use my unlocked US T-Mobile HD2 with Orange in France and I can't do better than Edge (it went down to GPRS at one point...). I guess it could come down to spotty reception but I do get 3G speeds in my current location with an iPhone 3GS so I'm not so sure...
I'm using the AmericanAndroid ROM, maybe that's why my speed is throttled ;-)
I am using HD2 T-mobile in Serbia and i have no problem with conection or data speed.
I was on vacation and i didnt use Wifi ,and i used the phone all the time on 3G - the 3G network is incredibly fast, I even think that it is twice as fast as the EU HD2, which I used before..
Thanks, will check again then, maybe bad reception then!
What is the difference between the two and can you make an "a" an "i"?
the differences are the 3g frequencies that they support
i forgot the exact bands but i know that the x10a supports us atnt, rogers canada, and telstra australia 3g bands. the x10i supports asia and european 3g bands
The difference is pronouncation. Also a is the first letter in the alphabet while i is the 9th. I don't think you can make i into a and vice versa.
PS. You can make [email protected] and vice versa but it causes SEUS problems.
x10i and x10a both have the same GSM network frequency as 850/900/1800/1900, or you can call as as Edge network as well. As for the 3G frequency or UMTS bandwidth, here is the difference:
x10i
UMTS: 900/1700/2100 MHz
it will support Asia / Europe / and T-Mobile USA 3G network.
X10a
UMTS: 800/850/1900/2100 MHz
like dorifuto.boi said, it will support AT&T US, Roger Canada, Teltra Australia. It also support Japanese Do-co-mo 3G network as well.
You may wanna check with your current service provider and ask them which UMTS bandwidth they fall into the above category. Again, this is for GSM network only. If you are using Sprint, Verizon, etc they are in differenet as they are in CDMA network.
To further add to your comments
SE uses the a or I for country variants
A - America's (Canada, US & Latin America) Support these bands
I - International (Europe, Asia, Middle east etc) support these bands
thanks for the info. I received and "a" as a gift, but am not able to get on tmobile3g. Only getting edge, but it runs fine.
nkn_1 said:
thanks for the info. I received and "a" as a gift, but am not able to get on tmobile3g. Only getting edge, but it runs fine.
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a - AT & T
i - tmobile
Just find somebody here on the forum and exchange the phones
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x10i
UMTS: 900/1700/2100 MHz
it will support Asia / Europe / and T-Mobile USA 3G network.
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As well as WIND Mobile in Canada
njfpolyr6 said:
X10a
UMTS: 800/850/1900/2100 MHz
like dorifuto.boi said, it will support AT&T US, Roger Canada, Teltra Australia. It also support Japanese Do-co-mo 3G network as well.
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Bell and Telus have 3G (only) networks in Canada in these bands
By the way... it is technically possible to build a phone that works on all the 3G bands, so that it would not be required an "a" and an "i" version?
the Nokia n8 is like that. 5 band 3g. but the x10 is not
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the Nokia n8 is like that. 5 band 3g. but the x10 is not
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Yes it is - for some weird reason t-mobile was included in the international version, and AT&T was on the American version... But the facts is, that both versions have 2100 MHz 3G which is the most used 3G band worldwide... As I see it, you will just have to go into a secret menu and then check off some other boxes, and then it should be able to use the other 3G bands!
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just because they both have 2100 doesn't mean ATT and t-mobile are using them. personally they should have made 1 model with quad band 3g. better for everyone.
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thanks for the info. I received and "a" as a gift, but am not able to get on tmobile3g. Only getting edge, but it runs fine.
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I have a X10i but for my operetor I need a X10a. I will apreciate to change my model with you
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By the way... it is technically possible to build a phone that works on all the 3G bands, so that it would not be required an "a" and an "i" version?
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technically yes
RIM has this
blackberry's band can be swtiched by changing the fw.
Hi!
I'm planning to visit the US and want to pick myself a DVP Unlocked for $499(16GB).
I spoke to a Dell rep who basically told me that when you buy a contract free DVP , it will still be locked to T-mobile.
I'm wondering if T-mobile will provide an unlock for it as I plan to use it in Sweden.
If they don't, has anyone tried the alternative unlock websites that exist on the internet? Are they a scam?
They are probably a scam or just a template for now. Someone will probably call T-Mobile for it when they get it, then post the code for us here
I'm in the same boat as you are and BTW already ordered the phone as I'm pretty sure I'll be able to unlock it.
Not sure if the websites are all scam, there are also posts here of people who actually used them in the past. But let's say that if we can get the unlock code for free from T-mobile it will be best.
From my understanding the unlock code is unique per handset based on the IMEI number, so don't expect anyone posting an unlock code. However, look on the T-mobile web site for their SIM FREE Policy.
When you buy the phone for full price, it makes you actually a "former customer" for T-Mobile as you do not have any contract with them anymore so they should have no problem giving you the unlock code. I also think that legally they need to do it.
Kotlicki said:
I'm in the same boat as you are and BTW already ordered the phone as I'm pretty sure I'll be able to unlock it.
Not sure if the websites are all scam, there are also posts here of people who actually used them in the past. But let's say that if we can get the unlock code for free from T-mobile it will be best.
From my understanding the unlock code is unique per handset based on the IMEI number, so don't expect anyone posting an unlock code. However, look on the T-mobile web site for their SIM FREE Policy.
When you buy the phone for full price, it makes you actually a "former customer" for T-Mobile as you do not have any contract with them anymore so they should have no problem giving you the unlock code. I also think that legally they need to do it.
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Please PM me once you get it, and tell me how it went.
Anyone else knows the shipping times for within the US? I have until Jan 11.
is the $499 version unlocked?
The 2 units I used, both were unlocked.
these were the 8 gig 449 ones
Canadian here: I spoke to T-Mobile yesterday. They are currently unable to unlock the phone, even if purchased outright. They suggested contacting Dell.
Called Dell america (dell canada is clueless) and they will not be giving unlock codes for a while at least.
expected release in canada is hopefully before the end of the 'holliday season' according to one of the reps.
I work for T-Mobile USA. They WILL NOT UNLOCK the device unless you have service for longer than 90 days. It is manadtory to have T-Mobile service before asking for an unlock , also you need to have the phone you want unlocked on T-Mobile service for that 90 days
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The 2 units I used, both were unlocked.
these were the 8 gig 449 ones
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They were the ones sold in stores. The ones sold by Dell are locked.
michael871410 said:
I work for T-Mobile USA. They WILL NOT UNLOCK the device unless you have service for longer than 90 days. It is manadtory to have T-Mobile service before asking for an unlock , also you need to have the phone you want unlocked on T-Mobile service for that 90 days
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Since you work for T-Mobile, are you aware of the issues with activating this phone through the Dell site? Is T-Mobile acknowledging that the problem is on its end, or is it a problem on Dell's side?
What does it matter if you have the unlock code or not? The phone only has T-mobile radio bands for UMTS.
I think it has 2100 (for Europe/Asia) also.
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I think it has 2100 (for Europe/Asia) also.
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I don't believe that will work as the 2100 radio is set up for AWS.
American AWS UMTS phone radios are set up to transmit signal in "2100" (2110-2155)Mhz range and receive signal in the "1700" (1710-1755)MHz range.
While EU UMTS "2100" phone radios are set up to receive signal in "2100"(2110-2170)Mhz, and transmit signal in "1900" (1920-1980)MHz range.
Actually since the Venue Pro has UMTS 900 support that should indicate the unit has been configured for at least some Asia and European UMTS support. UMTS 900 is not a American UMTS band.
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I don't believe that will work as the 2100 radio is set up for AWS.
American AWS UMTS phone radios are set up to transmit signal in "2100" (2110-2155)Mhz range and receive signal in the "1700" (1710-1755)MHz range.
While EU UMTS "2100" phone radios are set up to receive signal in "2100"(2110-2170)Mhz, and transmit signal in "1900" (1920-1980)MHz range.
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But according to Lionel's blog post stated that the phone spec
Bands/Mode: UMTS 900/1700/2100/AWS
Would it means that is a dual band UMTS support for AWS and Band I 2100Mhz?
My guessing only...
Will wait til Jan 11th and buy it from either Clove or Expansys.
Although I could have saved a couple of dollars on buying it in the us
A couple of dollars? The 8GB DVP is $450 in the US and £440 in The UK, that's a massive difference. Someone will figure out how to unlock it I'm sure.
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A couple of dollars? The 8GB DVP is $450 in the US and £440 in The UK, that's a massive difference. Someone will figure out how to unlock it I'm sure.
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Wow - that's a massive difference . Hope Orange UK stock it for my upgrade then !
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I don't believe that will work as the 2100 radio is set up for AWS.
American AWS UMTS phone radios are set up to transmit signal in "2100" (2110-2155)Mhz range and receive signal in the "1700" (1710-1755)MHz range.
While EU UMTS "2100" phone radios are set up to receive signal in "2100"(2110-2170)Mhz, and transmit signal in "1900" (1920-1980)MHz range.
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You have got it backwards. Both AWS and EU 2100 UMTS use 2100 MHz for download; they just use different frequencies for upload. See the table here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The more recent posts are correct. The facts are these:
1. When a phone's specs list "UMTS xxxx" (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100, etc.) it generally isn't a listing of the exact frequecies, but rather the 3G "bands" that are supported. Thus a European phone that lists "UMTS 900/2100" actually supports 3G downloads in the 1920-1980 MHz range, since that is part of Band I or "UMTS 2100".
2. The WHOLE POINT of AWS in North America is to make it super-easy for manufacturers to support the European and Asian UMTS 2100, by using largely overlapping download frequencies. PhoneScoop has a good article on this: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=99&p=1493. For this reason, you will rarely or never see an AWS phone that doesn't also support 3G in Europe.
3. Even if surelock and others were correct in their mistaken info that AWS transmits on 2100, that wouldn't make it impossible to support both. Many "3G world phones" for AT&T and Rogers support UMTS 850/1900/2100. 1900 is the PCS band, and it receives on 1930-1990, while Band I (or 2100) transmits on 1920-1980, which overlaps. These phones have radios that can switch between transmitting and receiving on overlapping frequencies. You'll just rarely see these two types of networks operating on the same continent.
In closing:
The Dell Venue Pro supports one North American 3G band (UMTS 1700 or "AWS") and two European/Asian 3G bands (UMTS 900 and UMTS 2100).
Thank you for clarifying. As far as I know all the releases WP7 can be unlocked one way or another so it will only be a matter of time until we can unlock the DVP. A Dell Venue Pro 16GB bought in the US would be over £50 cheaper to get than a 8GB one bought in the UK. If you have means of importing one that's a no brainer.
Hi everyone, i'll be going to USA, NYC for a week for the first time, and i'm wondering if i can get on 3G with my European Desire Z with a sim card from T-Mobile or AT&T, I want to be able to use gMaps to find all places i want to see and do some emailing, uploading photos etc.
also, which one should i choose (T-Mobile or AT&T)? i've read about the "goPhone" and "pay as you go" from AT&T but also the "Pay as you go data" plan from T-Mobile. researching this only gives me headace haha would be very happy if anyone could help me out with this (and where i get these prepaid sim cards, couldn't find that out anywhere either!).
but my main question is, as i said, will i be able to use 3G on my European DZ in the US?
i'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum, i really am. if it is, can a mod please move it for me?
I went to Houston in March. I have an unlocked Desire Z & bought a SIMPLE Mobile SIM card a week before I left (http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/7077857/simple-mobile-gsm-unlimited-sim) then I registered on the SIMPLE Mobile website & bought the $60 tarrif (unlimited domestic calls, international & local texts, and more importantly unlimited data) (http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Plan.aspx) I then popped it in to my Desire Z upon landing in Atlanta & put my existing T-Mobile UK SIM card in my wallet until I landed back in the UK. Phonecalls & texts worked instantly when I turned my phone on. However 3G was a bit trickier. I Google (using free Wi-Fi) & found the SIMPLE Mobile 3G settings I needed:
Press the menu.
Tap Settings.
Tap Wireless Controls or Wireless & Networks.
Tap Mobile Networks.
Check that: "Data Roaming" and "Use Only 2G Networks" are both unchecked. ETap Access Point Names. Press the menu button.
Select New APN. Name: Simple Mobile APN: simple proxy: 216.155.165.050 Port: 8080 Username: [empty]
Password: [empty]
Server: [empty]
MMSC: http://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMSProxy:[empty]
MMS Port: [empty]
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
APN Type: [Not set]
and it was perfect for the time I was out there. I was tethering a whole household at one point, tethering my girlfriend's UK Blackberry (with UK SIM) while driving too. I would recommend it!
Thanks for the tip!
I've never heard of "SIMPLE" before, so i'd like others to post their alternatives, so if anyone else have done this before and would like to share what they used (and how), I would be very happy.
If noone else comes up with an cheaper / better way, ill use it =)
E; saw that you need to put in zip-code on the tarrif page, i assume i type in my home zip-code (which doesn't work for me)?
comoba said:
Thanks for the tip!
I've never heard of "SIMPLE" before, so i'd like others to post their alternatives, so if anyone else have done this before and would like to share what they used (and how), I would be very happy.
If noone else comes up with an cheaper / better way, ill use it =)
E; saw that you need to put in zip-code on the tarrif page, i assume i type in my home zip-code (which doesn't work for me)?
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but SIMPLE mobile is owned by T-Mobile here in the US. They utilize the same bands/frequencies as Tmobile but operate as a Pre-Pay cell phone provider... No contracts required.
well you gotta verify what 3g bands uses your european DZ, from what i know there a 850/1900 mhz version which would perfectly run 3g with at&t, and theres also a 900/2100 mhz version which i think it could run t-mobile's 3g, but you need to verify which is your version before buying a sim card, if not youll be stuck with edge (2G)
im almost sure your version is the 900/2100 one tho
Yeah T-Mobile, but I don't think they are owned by them, I think they're just a mobile virtual network operator like GiffGaf & Tesco do to o2 in the UK.
I was all over Houston, from The Woodlands to Galveston & worked perfectly. Also in New York & Atlanta. However, it is (by UK standards) a rather limited network http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Coverage.aspx
nonione said:
you need to verify which is your version before buying a sim card, if not youll be stuck with edge (2G)
im almost sure your version is the 900/2100 one tho
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I think i read somewhere that the european dz would work all over the world sine it had support to all bands unlike the us one...
Anyhow how do i verify it?
Btw; what should i put as zipcode on the tarif page? Since its doesn't work with my Swedish zipcode (haha lol)
comoba said:
I think i read somewhere that the european dz would work all over the world sine it had support to all bands unlike the us one...
Anyhow how do i verify it?
Btw; what should i put as zipcode on the tarif page? Since its doesn't work with my Swedish zipcode (haha lol)
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There is no phone that works for everything, everywhere. Where are you planning to use the phone? You'll have to be more specific, different countries use different bands for different things.
The European DZ has the following compatibility: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
You should check those against the bands used by the carriers in the country you are travelling to. http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
The Euro DZ has the correct GSM bands to work for voice and EDGE data in most parts of the world. But bands used for 3G vary greatly by country and carrier. If you are going to the US, you won't have 3G on any carrier. The only GSM carriers in the US are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses the WCDMA 850/1900 band for 3G. T-Mobile uses WCDMA 1700/2100.
redpoint73 said:
There is no phone that works for everything, everywhere. Where are you planning to use the phone? You'll have to be more specific, different countries use different bands for different things.
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redpoint73; said:
The European DZ has the following compatibility: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
You should check those against the bands used by the carriers in the country you are travelling to. http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
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www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html said:
Sweden 900(3G) 1800(GSM) 3G 2100
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redpoint73 said:
If you are going to the US, you won't have 3G on any carrier. The only GSM carriers in the US are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses the WCDMA 850/1900 band for 3G. T-Mobile uses WCDMA 1700/2100.
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so if i have 900/1800 in sweden(like the rest of the world, expt america), does that mean i can't get 3G in the US? or what are you trying to say...? confused
comoba said:
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so if i have 900/1800 in sweden(like the rest of the world, expt america), does that mean i can't get 3G in the US? or what are you trying to say...? confused
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The 3G band compatibility of the Euro DZ (same model all across Europe, AFAIK) is WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
This doesn't match either of the two US GSM carriers, AT&T (850/1900 MHz) and T-Mobile (1700/2100 MHz). So no, you cannot get 3G in the US with that phone.
Also, if you were going to ask, the 2100 MHz band (known as Band I) used in Europe is not the same as the 1700/2100 MHz (known as Band IV) used by T-Mobile. T-Mobile uses 1700 for upload, and 2100 for download, so you need both in order to have 3G on their network.
I only supplied the website to look up the country, in case you want to travel to other countries beside the US. The spec of the phone is what is important to look at, and whether that matches the country you are traveling to. Also, you are not looking at the chart correctly. 900/1800 for Sweden is for 2G/Voice. Sweden and most of Europe uses 2100 MHz for 3G (see the green column).
redpoint73 said:
The 3G band compatibility of the Euro DZ (same model all across Europe, AFAIK) is WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
This doesn't match either of the two US GSM carriers, AT&T (850/1900 MHz) and T-Mobile (1700/2100 MHz). So no, you cannot get 3G in the US with that phone.
Also, if you were going to ask, the 2100 MHz band (known as Band I) used in Europe is not the same as the 1700/2100 MHz (known as Band IV) used by T-Mobile. T-Mobile uses 1700 for upload, and 2100 for download, so you need both in order to have 3G on their network.
I only supplied the website to look up the country, in case you want to travel to other countries beside the US. The spec of the phone is what is important to look at, and whether that matches the country you are traveling to. Also, you are not looking at the chart correctly. 900/1800 for Sweden is for 2G/Voice. Sweden and most of Europe uses 2100 MHz for 3G (see the green column).
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i may not know much about this; but, if you say that you can't get 3G in the US with a DZ; how come others says they can, and have had (such as salemfox, who suggested "SIMPLE" sim card)?
comoba said:
i may not know much about this; but, if you say that you can't get 3G in the US with a DZ; how come others says they can, and have had (such as salemfox, who suggested "SIMPLE" sim card)?
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gonna need an answer on this one. (bump)
comoba said:
gonna need an answer on this one. (bump)
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If you're reffering to "Simple Mobile", then no it still won't work, as they piggyback T-Mobile's network. Sadly there is no gsm carrier in the us that you could get 3g from, edge should still work though
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