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HTC Leo = The first decent HTC phone in a long time

Disagree with me, if you want, but for a very long time, I found myself with a lack of enthusiasm for HTC's various phones. In-between all the various 'meh' releases, there were some nice phones, but they were always nice for only a few reasons. For example, the Touch HD was nice because it had a large display and supposedly better speakers. The Tough Pro 2 is nice because it's a Touch HD with a keyboard. The HTC Dream was nice because it's the first phone to use something other than Symbian/WinMo/OSX.
Now, however, for the first time in a very long time, an HTC phone came out which I can give more than one or two compliments about. This phone is of course the HTC Leo: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-leo-spotted-in-the-wild-sports-gargantuan-800-x-480-display/
Let me list all of the great things I personally see about the phone:
1) 4.3in WVGA display (that surpasses even the Toshiba TG01)
2) 1Ghz Snapdragon processor; I don't think much of Qualcomm, but an upgrade is an upgrade
3) 320MB RAM
4) Dual LED flash on 8MP camera
My God, those specs are simply awesome, and best of all, it uses my favorite OS: WinMo. More importantly, the specs is perhaps good enough to facilitate an upgrade to WinMo 7 later (at least I dearly hope so). The only thing that could make this phone better is a QWERTY version and a release date not too far off.

Super specs...

The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all

Resistive or capacitive, not a big deal to me personally. Capacitive is a little better, but resistive is more flexible (gloves & stylus).
That aside, 100% this is the first phone since my Touch Pro to really get me excited, and the first ever non-keyboard WM phone I'll buy. Nice to see an actual device just to prove the doubters wrong (seriously, how the ignored the evidence I don't know). Now we just need to get people to stop referring to it as "Touch Pro 3". It's NOT! Also, for those who haven't noticed, THIS IS NOT A RELEASE DEVICE! You really think HTC will release it as-is with the filler "lorem ipsum" text on the back? Sheesh...
Pretty obvious this device's main job is as a tesbed for WM7, the specs of this and WM7 are almost 100% aligned. HTC might not release the upgrade come the time, but the good folk here cetainly will.

michd43 said:
The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
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Well, to be honest, I didn't even know the Leo was supposed to have a capacitive screen to begin with. Besides, I really do prefer a resistive screen. The screen is good enough as it is; perhaps it could be a bit better if it were AMOLED, but otherwise, meh.

WOW its a Godzilla
very big device because of the screen
but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast
but its not for me
i like a smaller device
3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap
im very confused now
i think ill go for samsung omnia 2 or omnia pro

Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC

michd43 said:
The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
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Although you may be disappointed, to me a resistive screen makes me WANT it. I prefer a resistive screen because it can run software that would be untenable on a capacitive screen. So thank you for the good news!

Aqrab said:
but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast
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Unlikely, I don't think the CPU is 1024Mhz. More likely than not, it's probably 990-995Mhz and they round it up.
3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap
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Yes, I don't mind any device so long as it has at least a 3.5in screen. As someone who has been a former user of the HTC Hermes and a current user of the HTC Raphael, I tend to get sick using devices with small screens, and low res.
However, I don't doubt you for thinking of the Omnia II or B7610. I myself was actually planning on buying the B7610.
skuliaxe said:
Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC
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My friend, you are speaking to someone who use to pocket devices like the HP Jornada 548, Palm TX, Ti-85 calculator, and many, many other similar objects. The HTC Leo will not be a problem.

htc leo is a multi touch screen device
see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026KGhk29Io

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7764
may be you should check this up..

Isn't multi touch a requirement or goal of wm7?
In any case LEO is attractive to me due to the large screen, my eyes arent as good as they used to be and snapdragon should make it zippy

Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.

11sec_lx said:
Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.
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You are right.
Till now, Its not 100% clear about anything about Leo.
Even the complete ACTUAL specifications. Like video call support, Camera resolution, keyboard support, etc.

Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.

Thanks skr_xd!

Zzim said:
Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.
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So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.
Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.
Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.

lude219 said:
So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.
Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.
Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.
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Hey Lude,
Why don't you put on some lube and calm your cojones? He had an opinion, and that was it.
This phone is simply just way too big, I'd have to agree. The specs are beastly on this thing, and I personally think even 3.8" on the Touch HD was the ideally perfect size. I have no idea why they'd even want a 4.3".
And personally, unless if this thing is packing a 1850 mAH battery on it, I wouldn't even bother with the phone. 4.3" and a 1Ghz processor + 3G or 4G or what have you. You do the math on how fast before this thing dies in your hand midway through the day. This is assuming that they're using the same old type of LCD-displays that are present in the TouchHD and not some new revolutionary giga-low-powered-screen.
It looks very good on paper, but I'm fairly confident that this phone is going to only attend to a market that is only a fraction of what the TouchHD is focused on now.
Cheers.

It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?

Limlin said:
It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?
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Yes, the Leo uses the Snapdragon processor, but it is not the Touch Pro 3. As far as I know, HTC's Touch Pro line are all supposed to be QWERTY.

HD2 (leo) or TD2 (Topaz)? I need your opinon!

My Touch Pro is nearing it's 1.5 year birthday, and although it has served me well I feel it it is time to retire it. I am in the market for a new phone, and two phones have caught my eye. I wanted to get the opinon of current TD2 owners and see what you thought on the matter
Now I am fully aware people would be sat there saying "why would you get the TD2 over the HD2?!", but the TD2 has a few redeaming features that make me think it would like it better. For my money, the TD2 has the following reedeaming features:
Sits better in palm (due to smaller form factor)
Looks much better
£200 cheaper (!)
Bigger battery
It also shares many features, like the ability to run WinMo 6.5 and HTC Sense, same resolution, 5mp camera, SD slot... e.t.c.
I know the HD2 has a much faster 1GHz processor, and the huge screen would be great for GPS. but I am not sure it would be comfertable to use (I think my iPod touch is quite large). That said the screen would be alot nicer to use, and the HD2 will probably run WinMo7 when it finally surfaces (since I will have the phone for at least 12 months, probably 18)...
You can see why I'm stuck right?
What would you do? If you had the oppertunity, would stay with what you have, or upgrade to the latest and greatest?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the TD2 battery 1100 mAh while the HD2 is 1350?
EDIT: To give my opinion, I'm totally satisfied with my TD2 at the moment but I wouldn't mind getting the HD2 instead of it. I watch ALOT of movies on my TD2 and the screen is really good (16:9 in CorePlayer looks beautiful, widescreen ftw!). But I just bought it so I will have to wait some months and see what's coming.

ooops... I actually wanted to vote for the Leo - sorry
Take the HD2 - it has the dual LED flash, 3.5mm headphone jack and capacitive touchscreen - and, most importantly, it's incredibly fast!

I would say get neither if you plan on having them for 12months+
But really I love My TD2. Had it since release day in April. So like 6 months now. If it weren't for the price I'd get an HD2. But then again it's nearly the same phone I have minus the Flash, Big Screen, and SnapDragon. I upgraded from a touch and skipped out on the Original Diamond. And thank god I did, cause a few months later the announcement of the TD2 came.
Wait till Feb for the World Mobile Congress (or Mobile World Congress) I'm sure there will be smaller sized devices than the HD2 that have the same specs. I mean look what happend last year. The HD was announced then along cam the TD2 which is the same yet different. Plus the TD2 was like $200 USD less.
If you can wait wait. If not get the TD2. It looks nicer. and say in6 Months when the D3 is out you can trade up. Cut that 12month wait in half.

I like the HD2.. it's looks good and has a nice big capacitive screen..
If i didn't have the TD2 i would buy the HD2.
But the TD2 is a nice phone, not too big and it's fast enough for me.
The thinks i hate off the TD2:
Bad camera and no flash
My wifi sucks (broken) and HTC won't repair it They tried to repair it 2 times but they failed
But i can't say what phone you should buy, it depends on what you want to do with it..
Fast, big screen, camera flash, good for movies? then go for the HD2
not too big, easy too use with one thumb, cool design? then go for the TD2

I was goign to get the HD1 over the TD2, but as soon as i held the TD2, i love it. Feels better in my hand than somthign the size of an ipod touch.

Go to the store and try both out. You can't beat first-hand experience. Personally, I think the HD2 is too big to carry in your pocket and uncomfortable to use with one hand. HD was already just short of too big for me.
I really hope HTC puts these snapdragons into something smaller than the HD2 eventually. I'd love something the size of TD2 yet with bigger screen. Who decided to sacrifice screen estate to have a frickin' "zoombar" anyway?

I was at a carphone warehouse earlier, and the TD2 dos feel really nice sitting in the hand. How does HTC sense perform on the older hardware?

The leo will be the first of the snapdragon processors things will only get better from there. I'd save the money and go with the TD2/TP2

thsnx for the opinions...very helpful......I am in the same predicament...I've been in the market for a phone for almost a 9 months. I was gonna settle on the TD2, then came the Magic, then the Hero, and I fell out of love with the magic pretty fast. I still like the Hero but Im not sure about the NO BT transfer and poor cam. I am not sure about Android either. But I handled the Hero @ a HTC Store and I have to say that I was impressed by the build quality....the fone is firm..feels like luxury. (at least the brown one)
The Leo will not be in my price range once it comes out. I could buy a whole new laptop once the price it.
Anyways.....I like the HD2..Seems like the safe choice now...The moto STD is making want to be a bit more patient....need to get a phone now...cant wait till the mobile congress....So many choices ...what to do.... Hero, TD2,HD2 ??,STD by Moto,...uhm.....a little still after all......

I have the Topaz running a Leo based ROM (currently from Dutty) and it (Topaz) is an awesome phone, but the Leo has got me drooling- I gotta have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

as much as i would love the 1ghz cpu of the leo it just too big for me, thus i vote topaz.

Size does matter
Its way too big, i gave up on the TP2 due to its sheer size and bulk, yes the bigger screen was awesome, but back to the TD2, its the best balance.

Thanks for the oversight guys, it's mbeen really helpful. I will take a look at the HD2, but I think I will end up with a TD2 and get a new phone 10 months down the line. The hero is pretty nice, but I'm worried the novelty of android will wear off. I does feel really good in the hand, and the build quality is damn good.
Decisions, decisions...

Leo is very big in size, small battery, no 3g calling.
the only thing it has better then the TD2 is the processor.

i agree about the leo being to big. i just got the htc pure yesterday and starting to really love it. feels great in hand. its taking a little to get used to it coming from the fuze. the leo is just the first step. there will be more like it im pretty sure in the future. hopefully with a smaller screen.

Just buy your TD2 with a 1-year contract, by end of next year there will likely be a few snapdragon based phones to choose from. I'm sure you'll have different screen sizes to choose from at that point. Personally I would have gone that way but my company buys my phone so I got stuck with a 2 year on my new Imagio.

HD2 vs Hero vs Nexus

So, which one do you suggest if price is not an issue?
Obviously HD2 is superior in hardware but is is better overall?
Are there any good apps/games for windows 6.5? Are there any good free apps/games? Emulators?
Android or Wm?
I also kinda like nexus but lack of multitouch is a dealbreaker for me...
Any opinions? i really need help

Please look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609378
To give you a quick answer: The HD2 is the most powerful. Not only in hardware, but mostly because it runs Windows Mobile.
The others are inferior in hardware and offer less possibilities because they run Android, but they are easier to use.
Android is easier to use, but more limited. WM is not as simple, but offers more possibilities.
You can't say that one is better than the other. It entirely depends on what you need.
This is already discussed in that other thread, so maybe it's better to close this one.

freyberry said:
Please look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609378
To give you a quick answer: The HD2 is the most powerful. Not only in hardware, but mostly because it runs Windows Mobile.
The others are inferior in hardware and offer less possibilities because they run Android, but they are easier to use.
Android is easier to use, but more limited. WM is not as simple, but offers more possibilities.
You can't say that one is better than the other. It entirely depends on what you need.
This is already discussed in that other thread, so maybe it's better to close this one.
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+1 Well said

hooray !!
if you want a phone, that is responsive. fast and really your phone. HD2 should be the one for you.

The answers you get here might be biased as most people posting will own a HD2. I've got a HD2 and i think it's great. The Nexus has got pretty much identical hardware to the HD2 so from a hardware perspective i'd say go for the HD2 or the Nexus. There's also gonna be a Bravo released which will be pretty much the same as the Nexus but with a Sense UI. If it was me the choice would be between the HD2 or the Bravo.

IMO, the Nexus is ugly and a lot of wasted space around the screen. Sure, the spec is a lot more impressive than the HD2, but i can't get over how ugly it is and certainly not big enough of an android fan. If i had to go out and get one in the next few days, I'd get an HD2.
HOWEVER!!!! If you have time to wait, I would suggest waiting for the Motorola Shadow/Mirage

lude219 said:
IMO, the Nexus is ugly and a lot of wasted space around the screen. Sure, the spec is a lot more impressive than the HD2, but i can't get over how ugly it is and certainly not big enough of an android fan. If i had to go out and get one in the next few days, I'd get an HD2.
HOWEVER!!!! If you have time to wait, I would suggest waiting for the Motorola Shadow/Mirage
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That motorola phone looks awesome. Same screen as the HD2 but with a much better camera. If it has a similar processor as the HD2 then i'll probably sell my HD2 to buy that.

At this moment HD2 > all .

I had a Hero, sold it to buy a HD2. Hero was a great phone, but I wanted a bigger screen.
In Android I prefer the app market: it's bigger and it's easier to find an app. There's more integration with google services, also. Some apps in WM look like Windows 3.11. But as long as they work, that's what matters in the end of the day.
In the first couple of days, I missed Android. Now, I don't understand why I've missed it
I love my HD2 and would definitely recommend it. If not, go to Nexus One/HTC Bravo, its specs are obviously better than Hero's.

freyberry said:
Please look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609378
To give you a quick answer: The HD2 is the most powerful. Not only in hardware, but mostly because it runs Windows Mobile.
The others are inferior in hardware and offer less possibilities because they run Android, but they are easier to use.
Android is easier to use, but more limited. WM is not as simple, but offers more possibilities.
You can't say that one is better than the other. It entirely depends on what you need.
This is already discussed in that other thread, so maybe it's better to close this one.
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nexus hardware is better than hd2 (512 ram)

That's no significant difference from the 448MB in the HD2, which don't get filled up anyways.
The HD2 has the bigger screen and better camera LED.

freyberry said:
That's no significant difference from the 448MB in the HD2, which don't get filled up anyways.
The HD2 has the bigger screen and better camera LED.
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the nexus has amoled screen which is much more better

hoss_n2 said:
the nexus has amoled screen which is much more better
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Quality won't really make up for lack of quantity(size) in this case as it's a mobile phone we're talking about. I love having a screen that actually makes webpages readable without having to zoom in while sitting on the bus/train. Size-wise it's also more suitable for watching movies. The bezel on the Nexus is also ginormous compared to the one on the HD2.
I might add that sunlight legibility with an amoled screen is pretty bad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDMiNXK18FY

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Quality won't really make up for lack of quantity(size) in this case as it's a mobile phone we're talking about. I love having a screen that actually makes webpages readable without having to zoom in while sitting on the bus/train. Size-wise it's also more suitable for watching movies. The bezel on the Nexus is also ginormous compared to the one on the HD2.
I might add that sunlight legibility with an amoled screen is pretty bad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDMiNXK18FY
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thanks for the informations

id go for the milestone

HD2 IS A LOL OF A PHONE (compared to the nexus)

I just had to share I've been toying around with an HD2 (T-mobile) all day, Unlocked to ATT and then hacked to HSPL2 and a custom ROM.
Even with all that done its as slow as molasses. I mean I went into the windows mobile market place and scrolling through things is all glitch like and such.
then I went into Facebook and it was inoperable almost. The best part about it is how they try to make windows 6.5 a finger based system when its clearly not. If you own this phone go and try to create a windows live id or get on the internet its a joke.
I do however like one thing on the HD2 and that is the display of 4.3 inches it makes the only good thing on the phone (Transformers 1 & 2) nice to watch. If Android was ever ported to it (again on the non snapdragon 1024 chips it is) the phone would kick some but but I am in just shock and awe. I wish I could try WM7 but they don't have that either yet..
-Charlie

cool... but a senseless post
i mean i could have told you that only good thing about it is the screen.. which isn't even AMOLED. so ya

lol ya but its always fun to rant how nice the nexus is to other phones that are supposedly as good
-Charlie

Cheers! Nexus One FTW!

Nexus One rocks next to slow WM!

To each their own.
Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

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lol ya but its always to rant how nice the nexus is to other phones that are supposedly as good
-Charlie
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true that brother

but the screen... man the screen...

Nexus One with a 4.3" screen ftw. I hope they make a GSM version of the Evo 4G. If they do, my N1 will be put on craigslist/ebay the day before its released

Dude, the HD2 is def as good as the Nexus One...for a WinMo phone. I own both and switch between the 2. If I had to get rid of one, it would be the HD2, but in no way is it a joke of a phone.

Breakthecycle2 said:
Dude, the HD2 is def as good as the Nexus One...for a WinMo phone. I own both and switch between the 2. If I had to get rid of one, it would be the HD2, but in no way is it a joke of a phone.
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I'll agree with selected bold text, I think besides my 8525 that this is the next best WM phone. Problem is its just as glitchy as my 8525 that I got when I was 17...
-Charlie

Well I just did some playing around with the windows phone 7 emulator on the computer.. And I have to say, if this comes out and gets ported to the HD2 1024 snapdragon edition I would use the thing. Its like they actually tried to make a phone OS this time instead of porting windows over.
until then I'll let this thread die its miserable, pointless death.
Viva La Nexs One!
-Charlie

HD2 is no joke of a phone and I would know having owned one (I found it extremely fast). The N1 is not without issues. The touch buttons on it for one DRIVE ME NUTS.

I own both also

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I just had to share I've been toying around with an HD2 (T-mobile) all day, Unlocked to ATT and then hacked to HSPL2 and a custom ROM.
Even with all that done its as slow as molasses. I mean I went into the windows mobile market place and scrolling through things is all glitch like and such.
then I went into Facebook and it was inoperable almost. The best part about it is how they try to make windows 6.5 a finger based system when its clearly not. If you own this phone go and try to create a windows live id or get on the internet its a joke.
I do however like one thing on the HD2 and that is the display of 4.3 inches it makes the only good thing on the phone (Transformers 1 & 2) nice to watch. If Android was ever ported to it (again on the non snapdragon 1024 chips it is) the phone would kick some but but I am in just shock and awe. I wish I could try WM7 but they don't have that either yet..
-Charlie
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I share your opinion, though I question your credibility because you're using that huge screen to watch two pretty awful movies.
It's Windows Mobile. Enough said. There are no rewards worth the headache in dealing with such a non-user-friendly OS, no matter how much HTC tries to doll it up.

dahui9 said:
I'll agree with selected bold text, I think besides my 8525 that this is the next best WM phone. Problem is its just as glitchy as my 8525 that I got when I was 17...
-Charlie
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I agree, the HD2 is complete BS. Like I said on the TMobile forums. Nothin about the HD2 is HD. No 720p recording and the discplay aint 720p either its WVGA @ 65k Colors.
I also own a 8525 thats rooted with a custom rom of WM 6.5 and both my 5 year old 8525 and the HD2 do exactly the same thing LOL. Just goes to show how dead WM 6.5 is. If WM7 or Android doesnt get ported over then owning the HD2 is just a waist.
The software developers will little to no interest in making appz since the upgrade to the OS is around the corner. Plus they wont make much loot since everyone is on Android and Apple.
I had a HD2 for like 2 weeks and rooted it also with a custom rom and everyone says the screen is nice.
Well actually the screen is not nice. The screen is big yeah but with 65k colors everything is washed out and pale looking. Everything from watching vids to browsing the web was missing a significant amount of color. Well at least it was very noticeble for me coming from a Nexus.
Long story short... Sold the HD2 and went back to Nexus.
(Kept my ATT Tilt 2 8525 since its kinda the same as HD2 LOL)

You are being to hard on the HD2. I have an HD2 and a Desire (browsing here because the N1 is much the same). The HD2 is FAR from outclassed. Android is very good and is smoother for sure, but actually getting things done is just as easy and fast on the HD2 and Winmo has its advantages. Sense on the HD2 is if anything faster than the Desires sense and certainly nicer than the blank Android on the N1.
Above all else is that 4.3 inch screen. Its just awesome. The 3.7 inch, massively over colour saturated AMOLED on the N1/Desire is no match at all. The colours may be more 'vibrant', but more vibrant just means grossly unrealistic here im afraid. If i calibrated my Plasma to look like that it would look grotesque.

I have just abandon One X and back to HD2!!

IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.

why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X

We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...

You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....

Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..

Interresting report !
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scpion said:
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
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I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544

Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.

Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....

Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...

xlr8me said:
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too

I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...

Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.

scpion said:
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.

I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!

I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.

Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?

I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.

you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter

Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.