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Nexus1 is based on snapdragon, with a 3.7" screen, so hardware wise it's on the same level as HD2.
Android is starting to become a mature OS, it's much more stable than WM, and in several months it will do everything WM can do and more... Google has a great developing team which will surely keep updating Android with great abilities, while Windows Mobile developing team simply sucks, now they postponed WM7 to late 2010...
The Nexus1 is only $530, this will definitely bring the price of the HD2 down, so maybe it's better to sell the HD2 now ?...
The only thing that bothers me is that I spent money purchasing software for WM (like Thumbcal, Galarm and more) and if I'm going for Android it's money down the toilet.
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Nexus1 is based on snapdragon, with a 3.7" screen, so hardware wise it's on the same level as HD2.
Android is starting to become a mature OS, it's much more stable than WM, and in several months it will do everything WM can do and more...
The Nexus1 is only $530, this will definitely bring the price of the HD2 down, so maybe it's better to sell the HD2 now ?...
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Good idea mate. Let us know how you get on.
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Good idea mate. Let us know how you get on.
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No problem.
Yes 3.7" is the same as 4.3" lol
I wouldn't downgrade from the 4.3in to the 3.7in.
I wouldn't trade the HD2's slender design for the stale design of the Nexus and its trackball.
...but that's just me. The HD2 has both form AND functions, whereas the Nexus has all function, but no personality (not as highly customizable as winmo).
No point getting into this debate, if the HD2 doesn't do what you want and need from a phone, sell it. If the Nexus does do what you want, buy it.
It's each to their own, sounds like you've made up your mind!
Having had the HTC Hero, the Nexus is a good choice. However, Android and Windows is not a fair comparison. Windows have far greater options. Android is tied down but is simple like an iphone to use. Both are good, but 4.3 inch screen is miles better than 3.7inches.
Plus the HD2 has great sound, strong gps and radio chips. I wouldnt rush out. Wait for the real reviews from people who have bought it. Are there restrictions with the phone etc...
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No point getting into this debate, if the HD2 doesn't do what you want and need from a phone, sell it. If the Nexus does do what you want, buy it.
It's each to their own, sounds like you've made up your mind!
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Yep, but they can't help themselves can they
yep I had the omnia hd with 3.7 screen (I went to the dark side for a while) and in comparison the HD2 screen is huge, wouldn't go back to a smaller screen now
I don't think I can go back to 3.7" screen now. It's so small .
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Haha It's funny to see how every owner of HD2 is now so rotten by the 4.3 inch display nobody would downgrade now because any other display looks so small against it
True, the HD2's screen size is a real bonus, especially since it's packed into such a small form factor. Both the HD2 and Nexus1 have the *same* height (120mm), yet the HD2 has a 4.3" screen and the Nexus has a 3.7" (and HD2 is even thinner!).
Since the HD2 is a better hardware than nexus (at least regrading screen size, even though the Nexus is AMOLED, so colors might be better there), I think if we had an option to install Android on HD2 it would have been perfect. Maybe an Android port from Nexus1 to HD2 will be easier since both are using snapdragon...
once you go 4.3 there is no turning back -
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once you go 4.3 there is no turning back -
Could not help myself
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true, I got hd2 and my X1, I haven't used my x1 for a while, now I can barely read the screen on the x1
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true, I got hd2 and my X1, I haven't used my x1 for a while, now I can barely read the screen on the x1
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Agree. When i look at my friend's Iphone 3GS , it just seems so tiny...
The screen may be smaller, but it's a nice looking phone, and runs nice and smooth in this vid...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5349.html
is the problem of high res contact sync solve?
Going from a 4.3 inch screen to a 3.7 makes as much sense as going from a 24 inch monitor to a 20 inch one. It's a big step backwards.
You lot may well laugh at the obsession with the HD2's big screen, but at my age with eyesight getting dodgier by the day, I will soon need a phone with a 10 inch screen..................
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Haha It's funny to see how every owner of HD2 is now so rotten by the 4.3 inch display nobody would downgrade now because any other display looks so small against it
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exactly that. Honestley I'm even wondering what is gonna be my next device at all in one and half a year because from the logical perspective and the commonsense there is not that much place upwards regarding the size of screen And fact is I'm not up to miss the HD2 screen in future . For time being there are tons of rumors and announcements regarding new devices for 2010 but none of them can reach the HD2 size. Not even HTC with the new android flagshipp bravo or sony ericsson xperia x10. from my point of view this is also exactly the reason why HTC is bringing bravo with a smaller screen size . Because they want to keep HD2 and the winmob flagshipp... HD ready back and forth....
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I'm trading my samsung Vibrant for an hd2 with Nand tomorrow, do you think it's a good trade? Or should I keep my Vibrant?
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well i have a hd2 and my girl has a vibrant. i love my hd2 now with nand and dual booting and ubuntu in developing stages the devs have proven this divice to be very great the pros of the vibrant to me are the super amoled screen and the internal memory the lack of a led flash is anoying but still a great phone in my own thoughts so its a really hard choice but i would chose the hd2 because i like to be able to run multiple os's and the led to me is helpful at night when trying to put your key in the door so like i said its a very hard choice hope i helped
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I'm trading my samsung Vibrant for an hd2 with Nand tomorrow, do you think it's a good trade? Or should I keep my Vibrant?
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I replied to you in the other thread, but unless you're making some money off it, or want the hd2 for winmo or wp7 when its released, I wouldn't do it. The vibrant can be made to run android much better and has a much better battery life. Any particular reason you want to trade a native Android phone for the hd2? Keep in mind also that Google new development phone, the nexus s, has the same insides as your vibrant, so future games and apps will be taking better advantage of your chipset and graphics processor, so a lot of things may run a lot better on your phone soon.
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I replied to you in the other thread, but unless you're making some money off it, or want the hd2 for winmo or wp7 when its released, I wouldn't do it. The vibrant can be made to run android much better and has a much better battery life. Any particular reason you want to trade a native Android phone for the hd2? Keep in mind also that Google new development phone, the nexus s, has the same insides as your vibrant, so future games and apps will be taking better advantage of your chipset and graphics processor, so a lot of things may run a lot better on your phone soon.
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Pro for both phones:
Samsung:
Better graphics chipset, better multitouch (actually working), battery saving screen technology (s-amoled), vivid display colors, not as heavy, processor==nexus s
htc hd2:
same size but bigger screen, not as much plastic(better look & feel), led flash, hardware phone-key (important for me), htc(love the brand) processor==nexus one (&&hd7)
hd2 is cheaper... so I would ask for some extra cash
But yeah I would go with the hd2. However the samsung is better for games. I fancy that...
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I replied to you in the other thread, but unless you're making some money off it, or want the hd2 for winmo or wp7 when its released, I wouldn't do it. The vibrant can be made to run android much better and has a much better battery life. Any particular reason you want to trade a native Android phone for the hd2? Keep in mind also that Google new development phone, the nexus s, has the same insides as your vibrant, so future games and apps will be taking better advantage of your chipset and graphics processor, so a lot of things may run a lot better on your phone soon.
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I agree with you completely, I wanted a hd2 for the screen size, and the feel, and I like the fact that you can switch to any android build you would like, but like you said most games wouldn't probably work, or it wouldn't work as well, and I know the phone isn't as fast. something else that I questioned was on internal memory, I don't think I would be able to install any apps.
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I agree with you completely, I wanted a hd2 for the screen size, and the feel, and I like the fact that you can switch to any android build you would like, but like you said most games wouldn't probably work, or it wouldn't work as well, and I know the phone isn't as fast. something else that I questioned was on internal memory, I don't think I would be able to install any apps.
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Don't get me wrong... the hd2 does make a great android phone, and apps and games work fine on it... but the vibrant can definitely be made to run android better... and battery life on vibrant is much better, especially if you're gonna be using bluetooth or just using your phone a lot in general. But I wouldn't trade my HD2 for nothing right now... because I like using winmo sometimes and like being able to boot both OS's on my phone. So it all depends what's important to you. Also, the vibrant is worth more, so you should try to get some cash too if you're gonna trade.
Hello everyone. I recently got tired bit of HD2 and would like to get a new phone. Nexus one and moto defy are in my price range. What are your thoughts on N1? Is battery life good? What about screen, is it of nice quality?
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You're better off getting something newer.
Unfortunately there are no better phones for $270, off contract, that will work on t-mobile USA network
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I think you've answered your own question then?
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I think you've answered your own question then?
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Hm, but both, defy and N1, cost ~$270 new in box.
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Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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Well I should have started with what I expect from it. I do a lot of browsing, reading, and most important - watching videos via flash player and Skyfire. I do gaming, some MMO and strategy/building.
What do you mean by fuzzyness?
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N1 is a great phone, and has a lot of life left. Have you thought about a g2x? Its a new phone but there are quite a few for sale, and fairly cheaply. Its got a great screen IMHO and would be better suited for gaming and video watching.
But after 18 months I'm still on my nexus one and its as able as ever.
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I'm also trying to decide between these two phones, I want to buy one used and cheap. Please tell your opinions about both.
I don't like motorola because of locked bootloaders. Now it is possible to install roms but it may be tricky. I would like run ubuntu or backtrack ok the phone, so I guess I should choose nexus. However, what are the things you don't like in a nexus one? Is it not multi touch? does it have 3d chip? Is it so bad for games? Any other issues
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N1 is a great phone, and has a lot of life left. Have you thought about a g2x? Its a new phone but there are quite a few for sale, and fairly cheaply. Its got a great screen IMHO and would be better suited for gaming and video watching.
But after 18 months I'm still on my nexus one and its as able as ever.
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g2x seems to have dozens of issues. Starting from random reboots, all the way to loss of signal. I was thinking of it too, but I somehow do not trust LG brand that much
the defy is more of a mid range phone while the n1 is/was high end.
the processor on the defy is quite slow and you will notice a speed difference.
the n1 screen is also a lot nicer due to higher res and amoled as well as actual size.
is performance doesn't matter too much then the choice is more about size, do you prefer a larger screen or smaller phone..?
I sold my brand new mytouch 4g on ebay for the going rate of around $280.
Not a horrible phone in terms of speed. T-mobile too.
N1 is prettier tho.
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g2x seems to have dozens of issues. Starting from random reboots, all the way to loss of signal. I was thinking of it too, but I somehow do not trust LG brand that much
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I have a g2x (about to sell), got a cheap upgrade and my phone was totally free of problems. CM7 is now running pretty smooth on it, making it a great phone in my opinion. I ended up reverting back to my N1 because I like the form factor, the g2x just a little too big. I'm now banking on the next Nexus, really hoping that they put a 4" screen (which I really enjoyed on my g2x) in a smaller build.
That said, the N1 is rock solid. Its a known quantity, the issues are negligible, and there has been a ton of development contributing to a great little machine. CM7 on it is just fantastic and only getting better, making N1, 18 months since its introduction, a better and better phone (my battery life with the latest CM nightlies is best its ever been).
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the defy is more of a mid range phone while the n1 is/was high end.
the processor on the defy is quite slow and you will notice a speed difference.
the n1 screen is also a lot nicer due to higher res and amoled as well as actual size.
is performance doesn't matter too much then the choice is more about size, do you prefer a larger screen or smaller phone..?
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I believe they both have 3.7 displays. What about Adreno 200 GPU? I believe I have the same CPU and GPU on my HTC HD2, but you know, this phone is not native to android OS, so would Nexus One's performance be better than one of HTC HD2?
danger-rat said something related to the fuzziness of the screen. Can someone please explain that to me. I have never held Nexus One in my hands.
Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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AntonJart said:
danger-rat said something related to the fuzziness of the screen. Can someone please explain that to me. I have never held Nexus One in my hands.
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Some say the pentile layout used in AMOLED in N1 causes the text not sharp enough. I guess it is what fuzziness means.
But personally I can't really tell the difference. Plus, you may try to find a 2nd hand SLCD N1 instead of AMOLED one.
AMOLED seems a bit too saturated for me, while some of my friends praise it... picking SLCD or AMOLED will be your own personal choice
One thing for certain is that the MT on N1 is far from perfect, and it is a hardware issue, there is no solution (and never will be) to the crappy MT performance on N1.
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One thing for certain is that the MT on N1 is far from perfect, and it is a hardware issue, there is no solution (and never will be) to the crappy MT performance on N1.
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I just saw that on youtube. It is not good, unfortunately
I bought an N1 when It came out and loved it. Over time the little issues the N1 had started to annoy me. So I bought an HD2 and put android on it. To me HD2>N1
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I bought an N1 when It came out and loved it. Over time the little issues the N1 had started to annoy me. So I bought an HD2 and put android on it. To me HD2>N1
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I have HD2 now. I am tired of battery life now. It gets top 4-5 hours while playing. I had to carry portable charger at work)
Well Anton
I have an N1 and i have to say it is really the best phone i have ever held...
But it is not perfect, it has a few problems which depending on you, may be a deal breaker:
1- Internal memory is only 512mb, out of which, only 192 mb is dedicated for apps... which leaves you with next to nothing ... of course this is all solved with apps 2sd, darktremor or other solutions, they remain in the end, a work around... So it is not as good as having a good internal memory storage.
2- is the lack of front camera, which for me, makes the phone lacking in terms of future growth, especially when all handhelds get video calling apps like tango or skype, and you would be stuck behind the curve.
N1 vs defy:
My friend just got a defy, it has a smaller screen than the N1 and a lower processor speed than the N1, but it comes with water resistant and shock resistant features which are a bonus.
In the end its up to u... and what you like.
For me, I love the N1's community support, the HUGE list of custom roms and modifications, and the amazing trackball and the trackball LED notifications. As well as its cool looks and the fact that it kinda still is Google's flagship phone and an amazingly sturdy and cool phone... I love it!
Edit: oh and as for battery life, I am getting much better performance on CM7.1 RC1 than i used to get when it was froyo, I usually get 1.5 days with average use and smart usage (wifi/bluetooth/3g off unless i need them and screen brightness on auto)
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html
what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
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My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.