Disagree with me, if you want, but for a very long time, I found myself with a lack of enthusiasm for HTC's various phones. In-between all the various 'meh' releases, there were some nice phones, but they were always nice for only a few reasons. For example, the Touch HD was nice because it had a large display and supposedly better speakers. The Tough Pro 2 is nice because it's a Touch HD with a keyboard. The HTC Dream was nice because it's the first phone to use something other than Symbian/WinMo/OSX.
Now, however, for the first time in a very long time, an HTC phone came out which I can give more than one or two compliments about. This phone is of course the HTC Leo: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-leo-spotted-in-the-wild-sports-gargantuan-800-x-480-display/
Let me list all of the great things I personally see about the phone:
1) 4.3in WVGA display (that surpasses even the Toshiba TG01)
2) 1Ghz Snapdragon processor; I don't think much of Qualcomm, but an upgrade is an upgrade
3) 320MB RAM
4) Dual LED flash on 8MP camera
My God, those specs are simply awesome, and best of all, it uses my favorite OS: WinMo. More importantly, the specs is perhaps good enough to facilitate an upgrade to WinMo 7 later (at least I dearly hope so). The only thing that could make this phone better is a QWERTY version and a release date not too far off.
Super specs...
The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
Resistive or capacitive, not a big deal to me personally. Capacitive is a little better, but resistive is more flexible (gloves & stylus).
That aside, 100% this is the first phone since my Touch Pro to really get me excited, and the first ever non-keyboard WM phone I'll buy. Nice to see an actual device just to prove the doubters wrong (seriously, how the ignored the evidence I don't know). Now we just need to get people to stop referring to it as "Touch Pro 3". It's NOT! Also, for those who haven't noticed, THIS IS NOT A RELEASE DEVICE! You really think HTC will release it as-is with the filler "lorem ipsum" text on the back? Sheesh...
Pretty obvious this device's main job is as a tesbed for WM7, the specs of this and WM7 are almost 100% aligned. HTC might not release the upgrade come the time, but the good folk here cetainly will.
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The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
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Well, to be honest, I didn't even know the Leo was supposed to have a capacitive screen to begin with. Besides, I really do prefer a resistive screen. The screen is good enough as it is; perhaps it could be a bit better if it were AMOLED, but otherwise, meh.
WOW its a Godzilla
very big device because of the screen
but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast
but its not for me
i like a smaller device
3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap
im very confused now
i think ill go for samsung omnia 2 or omnia pro
Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC
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The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
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Although you may be disappointed, to me a resistive screen makes me WANT it. I prefer a resistive screen because it can run software that would be untenable on a capacitive screen. So thank you for the good news!
Aqrab said:
but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast
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Unlikely, I don't think the CPU is 1024Mhz. More likely than not, it's probably 990-995Mhz and they round it up.
3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap
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Yes, I don't mind any device so long as it has at least a 3.5in screen. As someone who has been a former user of the HTC Hermes and a current user of the HTC Raphael, I tend to get sick using devices with small screens, and low res.
However, I don't doubt you for thinking of the Omnia II or B7610. I myself was actually planning on buying the B7610.
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Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC
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My friend, you are speaking to someone who use to pocket devices like the HP Jornada 548, Palm TX, Ti-85 calculator, and many, many other similar objects. The HTC Leo will not be a problem.
htc leo is a multi touch screen device
see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026KGhk29Io
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7764
may be you should check this up..
Isn't multi touch a requirement or goal of wm7?
In any case LEO is attractive to me due to the large screen, my eyes arent as good as they used to be and snapdragon should make it zippy
Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.
11sec_lx said:
Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.
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You are right.
Till now, Its not 100% clear about anything about Leo.
Even the complete ACTUAL specifications. Like video call support, Camera resolution, keyboard support, etc.
Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.
Thanks skr_xd!
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Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.
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So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.
Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.
Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.
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So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.
Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.
Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.
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Hey Lude,
Why don't you put on some lube and calm your cojones? He had an opinion, and that was it.
This phone is simply just way too big, I'd have to agree. The specs are beastly on this thing, and I personally think even 3.8" on the Touch HD was the ideally perfect size. I have no idea why they'd even want a 4.3".
And personally, unless if this thing is packing a 1850 mAH battery on it, I wouldn't even bother with the phone. 4.3" and a 1Ghz processor + 3G or 4G or what have you. You do the math on how fast before this thing dies in your hand midway through the day. This is assuming that they're using the same old type of LCD-displays that are present in the TouchHD and not some new revolutionary giga-low-powered-screen.
It looks very good on paper, but I'm fairly confident that this phone is going to only attend to a market that is only a fraction of what the TouchHD is focused on now.
Cheers.
It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?
Limlin said:
It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?
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Yes, the Leo uses the Snapdragon processor, but it is not the Touch Pro 3. As far as I know, HTC's Touch Pro line are all supposed to be QWERTY.
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Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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Hero - Always like HTC devices, they just seem much better in terms of build quality (all bar TP2, had 4 with problems!).
Support on this in invaluable.
Tefflon coating!
I like the chin - don't shoot me down, I really do like it for some reason.
Haven't seen the spec on the Samsung, but the last few Samsung phones I've owned, I gave them to my mum!
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Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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Even though the Samsung Galaxy has better specs, I prefare the Hero because of the UI, the design of the actual phone, and the fact that its made by HTC, I'm not a fanboy but because its made by HTC it will be supported by this website and the Galaxy wont be.
The Galaxy has only 128Mb ram where the hero has 288mb. nuff said.
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Hmm it was confirmed on some italian sites that the galaxy has 192mb usable by apps. Which probably means its has the same or very similar total ram.
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Hmm it was confirmed on some italian sites that the galaxy has 192mb usable by apps. Which probably means its has the same or very similar total ram.
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yep i read the same. So apart from the board here, and sense UI there really isnt much in favour of the Hero?
For me the sammy wins on;
camera (includes flash)
screen (AMOLED)
storage (8GB Internal)
battery
still havent seen pricing for the galaxy yet though...
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Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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very sad I can't say my ideas here
COZ DEFINITELY I'M HTC FANBOY
After working with the EzInput 2 onscreen-keyboard on my little Diamond, the reason for me for going with the Hero is the keyboard-software. The rest I don't really care about.
The extra widgets and 7 homescreens and such is nice, but not really 'needed'. But the onscreen-keyboard is what you use more and more and more... being stuck with a commercial application or the stock Cupcake keyboard would be a deal-breaker for me. The HTC keyboard is far superior to most out there. And from what I see they made some handy changes to this android version (picking the correct word from 7 suggestions is nice and fullscreen, finger friendly for example) and the color coding in the suggestions.
For me going from 2.6" (Diamond) to 3.2" (Hero) will be heaven when typing .
That and the posibility to use Compact Qwerty and even the old phonepad-block (1 through 0 numbers) with T9 makes it possible live without a phsyical keyboard.
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After working with the EzInput 2 onscreen-keyboard on my little Diamond, the reason for me for going with the Hero is the keyboard-software. The rest I don't really care about.
The extra widgets and 7 homescreens and such is nice, but not really 'needed'. But the onscreen-keyboard is what you use more and more and more... being stuck with a commercial application or the stock Cupcake keyboard would be a deal-breaker for me. The HTC keyboard is far superior to most out there. And from what I see they made some handy changes to this android version (picking the correct word from 7 suggestions is nice and fullscreen, finger friendly for example) and the color coding in the suggestions.
For me going from 2.6" (Diamond) to 3.2" (Hero) will be heaven when typing .
That and the posibility to use Compact Qwerty and even the old phonepad-block (1 through 0 numbers) with T9 makes it possible live without a phsyical keyboard.
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Imagine if you went to a 3.8" Touch HD
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Imagine if you went to a 3.8" Touch HD
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true, very true. Was thinking about going for an Xperia or Blackstone because they are relatively cheap now.
But if I have a new phone I want a new experience. After years of WinMo phones, and after a year of cooking and tweaking for the Diamond... getting a TouchHD would seem like I would not get anything new. It would feel like 'a bigger diamond' within a day I guess...
.. must be my gadget-vibe, I don't know. But I've set my sights on Android + HTC Tweaks and I'm curious how it will work out
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true, very true. Was thinking about going for an Xperia or Blackstone because they are relatively cheap now.
But if I have a new phone I want a new experience. After years of WinMo phones, and after a year of cooking and tweaking for the Diamond... getting a TouchHD would seem like I would not get anything new. It would feel like 'a bigger diamond' within a day I guess...
.. must be my gadget-vibe, I don't know. But I've set my sights on Android + HTC Tweaks and I'm curious how it will work out
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Have to second that, my thoughs exactly. Had a lot of WinMo devices and just want a change
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But if I have a new phone I want a new experience. After years of WinMo phones...
.. must be my gadget-vibe, I don't know. But I've set my sights on Android + HTC Tweaks and I'm curious how it will work out
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This is exactly why I left WM a while back. I tried symbian but didnt like that so going to give android a go and this seems like the best of what is available.
galaxy:
- amoled
- flash led
- 8 gb internal storage
- better battery life
- smaller than hero
hero:
- 288 mb RAM (galaxy has only 192 mb, like dream...italian galaxy too)
- Sense
- Flash support in browser
- teflon coating
- oleophobic display
- status led
i've ordered hero
enlightener said:
galaxy:
- amoled
- flash led
- 8 gb internal storage
- better battery life
- smaller than hero
hero:
- 288 mb RAM (galaxy has only 192 mb, like dream...italian galaxy too)
- Sense
- Flash support in browser
- teflon coating
- oleophobic display
- status led
i've ordered hero
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hero: transreflective screen (amoled SUCKS outdoors)
I still don't know that the Sense UI is going to be a bonus for me... I'll have to look more into that feature. The main reason I'm leaning towards the Hero is time frame combined with a potential discount: the Hero is already out, plus the rumors say it will be on the AT&T network which means I may get a discount on the phone since I have an account with them.
If the two phones came out around the same time and neither of them were on AT&T, then I would be leaning towards the Galaxy.
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hero: transreflective screen (amoled SUCKS outdoors)
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Hero: multitouch broswer
joshuapurcell said:
the Hero is already out
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Who are you kidding? cannot find it actually on sale anywhere. keeps getting moved back
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hero: transreflective screen (amoled SUCKS outdoors)
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Agree with that. AMOLED displays in the sun are practically useless. Inside they are gorgeous.
Spent some time in Las Vegas on business and my Nokia N85 was almost impossible to use when standing outside. My N82 (always take a spare in case of theft) was more than useable.
Keyboard on Hero is fantastic as said above... the two things you're going to be using most are the screen and keyboard.
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Who are you kidding? cannot find it actually on sale anywhere. keeps getting moved back
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I'm just going on what I see on ebay and from hearing people in the UK talk... I definitely haven't seen one here in the US yet though.
EDIT: Just checked ebay and looks like the majority of listings now say shipping in August...
dang, 02 is giving hero away for FREE!!!!!!!! wtf, now i got to spend $700 on this or the galaxy. right now I want hero pretty bad, especially the graphite one but it doesn't have tmo 3g bands for the us. if the galaxy does which it seem so so far i will buy that instead.
Guess What Comes After the HTC HD2? The HD2 Pro
Hmmmm... Now I want the PRO version..
I guess I will sell my unit when the PRO is available.
more info @ http://pocketnow.com/rumor/guess-what-comes-after-the-htc-hd2-the-hd2-pro
I might be wrong, but I don't think it will happen. The same question was asked when the Touch HD was launched but nothing appeared. First was the Diamond/Pro, then Diamond2/Pro, but no HD/HD pro...
I have serious doubts over the claim too.
HTC are probably quite happy with the staggered releases at the high end with the trio of compact (Diamond), media (HD) and professional w/ keyboard (Pro). I just don't see the demand there for a 2nd line of high end keyboard devices. I doubt HTC do, either.
The article the original poster linked to is pure speculation, but sensible speculation; it's suggesting simply that in 6 months or so there will probably be a replacement model for the Touch Pro2, which will have the same relationship to the HD2 as the Touch Pro2 had to the Touch HD. This seems like a fairly safe bet.
3 months since the original post, has anybody heard anything further on a HD2 Pro or TP3?
This does not likely happen. HTC is developing in a way without qwerty keyboard. Legend, HD Mini, Desire, Incredible. No phone with a physics keyboard at all
This is great news! two power buttons? one at the top, and one at the end call key?
HD2 with twice the thickness? No thanks!
It's obviously fake... +I don't like it..
may be it will be like the new toshiba ko1 4.1 inch screen with snapdragon processor and capastive screen but little more thicker than hd2
hoss_n2 said:
may be it will be like the new toshiba ko1 4.1 inch screen with snapdragon processor and capastive screen but little more thicker than hd2
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all this talk of new phones has made me kind of nolstagic..so I went hunting last night and found my very first XDA....an O2 Orbit.
That was (and perhaps still is) my greatest phone. It never let me down, it had lots of fantastic features (LED indicators you could actually see, a hardware camera button, a battery that lasted 3 days +, great build quality, hardware buttons, plus a trackball and a track 'ring'), it fitted my hand perfectly. Ok, compared to phones nowadays it would be slow...but it sure was a good one when it was released....which is why I've never sold it like I have all my other phones.
now I seem to be going backwards and wanting the old phones to make a comback..if only my next phone was as good to me as the Orbit was....
Nexus1 is based on snapdragon, with a 3.7" screen, so hardware wise it's on the same level as HD2.
Android is starting to become a mature OS, it's much more stable than WM, and in several months it will do everything WM can do and more... Google has a great developing team which will surely keep updating Android with great abilities, while Windows Mobile developing team simply sucks, now they postponed WM7 to late 2010...
The Nexus1 is only $530, this will definitely bring the price of the HD2 down, so maybe it's better to sell the HD2 now ?...
The only thing that bothers me is that I spent money purchasing software for WM (like Thumbcal, Galarm and more) and if I'm going for Android it's money down the toilet.
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Nexus1 is based on snapdragon, with a 3.7" screen, so hardware wise it's on the same level as HD2.
Android is starting to become a mature OS, it's much more stable than WM, and in several months it will do everything WM can do and more...
The Nexus1 is only $530, this will definitely bring the price of the HD2 down, so maybe it's better to sell the HD2 now ?...
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Good idea mate. Let us know how you get on.
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Good idea mate. Let us know how you get on.
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No problem.
Yes 3.7" is the same as 4.3" lol
I wouldn't downgrade from the 4.3in to the 3.7in.
I wouldn't trade the HD2's slender design for the stale design of the Nexus and its trackball.
...but that's just me. The HD2 has both form AND functions, whereas the Nexus has all function, but no personality (not as highly customizable as winmo).
No point getting into this debate, if the HD2 doesn't do what you want and need from a phone, sell it. If the Nexus does do what you want, buy it.
It's each to their own, sounds like you've made up your mind!
Having had the HTC Hero, the Nexus is a good choice. However, Android and Windows is not a fair comparison. Windows have far greater options. Android is tied down but is simple like an iphone to use. Both are good, but 4.3 inch screen is miles better than 3.7inches.
Plus the HD2 has great sound, strong gps and radio chips. I wouldnt rush out. Wait for the real reviews from people who have bought it. Are there restrictions with the phone etc...
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No point getting into this debate, if the HD2 doesn't do what you want and need from a phone, sell it. If the Nexus does do what you want, buy it.
It's each to their own, sounds like you've made up your mind!
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Yep, but they can't help themselves can they
yep I had the omnia hd with 3.7 screen (I went to the dark side for a while) and in comparison the HD2 screen is huge, wouldn't go back to a smaller screen now
I don't think I can go back to 3.7" screen now. It's so small .
Rotten by display
Haha It's funny to see how every owner of HD2 is now so rotten by the 4.3 inch display nobody would downgrade now because any other display looks so small against it
True, the HD2's screen size is a real bonus, especially since it's packed into such a small form factor. Both the HD2 and Nexus1 have the *same* height (120mm), yet the HD2 has a 4.3" screen and the Nexus has a 3.7" (and HD2 is even thinner!).
Since the HD2 is a better hardware than nexus (at least regrading screen size, even though the Nexus is AMOLED, so colors might be better there), I think if we had an option to install Android on HD2 it would have been perfect. Maybe an Android port from Nexus1 to HD2 will be easier since both are using snapdragon...
once you go 4.3 there is no turning back -
Could not help myself
jpmalum said:
once you go 4.3 there is no turning back -
Could not help myself
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true, I got hd2 and my X1, I haven't used my x1 for a while, now I can barely read the screen on the x1
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true, I got hd2 and my X1, I haven't used my x1 for a while, now I can barely read the screen on the x1
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Agree. When i look at my friend's Iphone 3GS , it just seems so tiny...
The screen may be smaller, but it's a nice looking phone, and runs nice and smooth in this vid...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5349.html
is the problem of high res contact sync solve?
Going from a 4.3 inch screen to a 3.7 makes as much sense as going from a 24 inch monitor to a 20 inch one. It's a big step backwards.
You lot may well laugh at the obsession with the HD2's big screen, but at my age with eyesight getting dodgier by the day, I will soon need a phone with a 10 inch screen..................
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Haha It's funny to see how every owner of HD2 is now so rotten by the 4.3 inch display nobody would downgrade now because any other display looks so small against it
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exactly that. Honestley I'm even wondering what is gonna be my next device at all in one and half a year because from the logical perspective and the commonsense there is not that much place upwards regarding the size of screen And fact is I'm not up to miss the HD2 screen in future . For time being there are tons of rumors and announcements regarding new devices for 2010 but none of them can reach the HD2 size. Not even HTC with the new android flagshipp bravo or sony ericsson xperia x10. from my point of view this is also exactly the reason why HTC is bringing bravo with a smaller screen size . Because they want to keep HD2 and the winmob flagshipp... HD ready back and forth....
Cheers,
LEE
My dream phone in this world would be a Touch Pro 2 with a Snapdragon, Capacitive touch screen and Android. The closest thing (at least in theory) seems to be the Nexus Two. We do know it will have a qwerty keyboard at least, which is what bothers me the most with the Nexus One..(Probably one of the very few complaints I have about it)..
Anyway, I was very disappointed when I read the rumours that Motorola would be making the N2, but Ive read several discussions since then where people claim to know that HTC is making it after all.
Just wondering if anyone know anything more now? Been a while since Ive seen new updates on the matter.
"There can be only One!!!"
-Connor MacLeod-
If Motorola is making it, I'm giving it a pass and waiting for the N3. If it comes with a hard keyboard, ditto.
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If Motorola is making it, I'm giving it a pass and waiting for the N3. If it comes with a hard keyboard, ditto.
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I agree completely. Motorola makes some ugly ass phones, and their Motoblur skin looks like a pain to use.
My dream device is a Nexus One with a Super AMOLED and slightly larger (say 4") screen.
I spoke to someone I know at Google who said outright, there is no guarantee that HTC will get the Nexus Two. Motorola is the obvious choice. Motorola makes a hell of a good phone. and don't forget, this is a cell phone.
isint the motorola shadow rumored to be the nexus 2
Paul22000 said:
I agree completely. Motorola makes some ugly ass phones, and their Motoblur skin looks like a pain to use.
My dream device is a Nexus One with a Super AMOLED and slightly larger (say 4") screen.
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My thoughts exactly.
No to hardware keyboard. I like it as it is.
Ditch Snapdragon and go with Tegra 2. Cortex A9 architecture and a vastly better CPU along with amazing battery life? Yes please!
My dream Nexus Two....
Same Body...
4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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My dream Nexus Two....
Same Body...
4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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and a touch screen that detects multiple touch... this would really soothe a lot of people out there who are wailing that N1 can detect only two touches at a time ...
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Ditch Snapdragon and go with Tegra 2. Cortex A9 architecture and a vastly better CPU along with amazing battery life? Yes please!
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Oh god yes. I like my N1, but the Snapdragon is really not the top of the line.
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4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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The Incredible has a 8MP camera. Said camera sucks dicks. MP isn't everything, and phone cameras can only do so much. 5MP strikes a perfect balance, IMO.
My dream phone in this world would be a Touch Pro 2 with a Snapdragon, Capacitive touch screen and Android. The closest thing (at least in theory) seems to be the Nexus Two. We do know it will have a qwerty keyboard at least, which is what bothers me the most with the Nexus One..(Probably one of the very few complaints I have about it)..
Anyway, I was very disappointed when I read the rumours that Motorola would be making the N2, but Ive read several discussions since then where people claim to know that HTC is making it after all.
Just wondering if anyone know anything more now? Been a while since Ive seen new updates on the matter.
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Umm, where is that info coming from? That photochopped fake image of motorola shadow?
I have not seen any info on it. Although I think N2 is coming, as far as I know there was no official confirmation of it, leave alone details like keyboard or photos of it. I think you are speculating based on no real information.
If I'm wrong please show me your sources of info.
I dont really mind no physical keyboard but would love to have bigger screen like may be 4 inch, super amoled screen, dual led flash,tegra cpu, stereo speaker and I will be in heaven.
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Motorola cant make qwerty keyboards! Nexus Two will be a qwerty device, at least according to what Google has been saying. And if Motorola is the one making it, then we get something like the Milestone, which has an awfull keyboard with cramped tiny keys.
No, give it to HTC that will turn out an awesome Touch Pro 2-ish keyboard!
Dream N2? Or Dream Phone?
I think 4" Screen, Snapdragon 1.5Ghz, Tegra 2 or Atom perhaps?
An LET screen (light emitting transistor). Far more efficient.
A Battery that will last a full 24 hours at least, with hammering. 2000+ mAh? (I would happily sacrifice size for a bigger battery (depth, not screen size).
Android obviously.
12 Megapixel camera.
No hardware keyboard (gone are the days of broken keys )
More Ram, and a much larger internal capacity; 2 SD slots?
One can dream...
Basically, battery and screen size.
There will never be a nexus two by that name.
HTC is passing a phone through fcc with a keyboard and snapdragon. I believe it's gonna be GSM but I could be wrong on that.
edit: http://www.intoandroid.org/new-htc-android-spotted-at-fcc-probable-named-as-wildfire.html
NO keyboard, stereo speakers, same form factor, better processor, super amoled and I'm solid. hardware keyboards are over.
My dream N2? Very easy.
GSM version of the HTC EVO 4G.
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There will never be a nexus two by that name.
HTC is passing a phone through fcc with a keyboard and snapdragon. I believe it's gonna be GSM but I could be wrong on that.
edit: http://www.intoandroid.org/new-htc-android-spotted-at-fcc-probable-named-as-wildfire.html
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That's the HTC Scorpian.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.